Mystic Gohan vs Janemba

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Damborgson
Janemba gets his sword, who takes it?

Galan007
Going with Gohan.

Personally, I've always put Janemba a little bit above Super Boo... And obviously Mystic Gohan was a lot stronger than Super Boo.

Sj_Sharp
- Going by the manga (only canon source), Gohan oneshots: Super Janemba was just a little stronger version of Kid Boo, got hit by Ssj3 Goku (a total fodder, compared to Chou Gohan) and got his ass manhandled by Ssj Gogeta, while Gohan proved to be far more powerful than even Ssj3 Gotenks.
Gohan wipes him out with one blast.

- Going by Toei's logic (since this is a Toei movie), Gohan dies horribly: indeed, in Toei's world Goku is undoubtly the strongest, still Super Janemba managed to overpower even his Ssj3 version and it took freakin' Ssj Gogeta (a fusion of the two main characters) in order to beat him.
Super Janemba tortures Gohan in hell for eternity.

juggerman
Originally posted by Galan007
Personally, I've always put Janemba a little bit above Super Boo... sick

NewGuy01
People don't think SSJ3 Goku could give Mystic Gohan a hard fight???

bbrem123
anime goku could. Not so much manga goku though

carver9
Originally posted by juggerman
sick

Why wouldn't you?

Henry_Pym
Originally posted by NewGuy01
People don't think SSJ3 Goku could give Mystic Gohan a hard fight??? SSJ3 Goku ~= Fat Buu < Evil Buu < Super Buu < Buu + Piccolo + Gotenks < Gohan

Gohan is at least 4x as powerful.

carver9
Wrong

NewGuy01
I thought SSJ3 Goku an Buutenks were closely matched.

juggerman
Originally posted by carver9
Why wouldn't you?

Never

Originally posted by NewGuy01
People don't think SSJ3 Goku could give Mystic Gohan a hard fight???

Hell no

juggerman
SSJ3 Goku was about equal to SSJ1 Gotenks. Gotenks had to go SSJ3 to match Super Buu. Meaning Super Buu was AT LEAST 8x stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

No way Janemba was THAT much stronger than Goku

carver9
Originally posted by juggerman
Never



Why?

NewGuy01
Originally posted by juggerman
SSJ3 Goku was about equal to SSJ1 Gotenks.


?

carver9
Originally posted by juggerman
SSJ3 Goku was about equal to SSJ1 Gotenks. Gotenks had to go SSJ3 to match Super Buu. Meaning Super Buu was AT LEAST 8x stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

No way Janemba was THAT much stronger than Goku

Super Saiyan 3 Goku=Super Saiyan 1 Gotenks? Where did that come from?.

Sj_Sharp
laughing out loud

Galan007
Originally posted by NewGuy01
I thought SSJ3 Goku an Buutenks were closely matched. That was anime filler. They never fought in the manga, and Goku outright stated that even Super Boo was vastly more powerful than himself(to the point that Goku didn't even want to TRY and fight him.)

Originally posted by juggerman
SSJ3 Goku was about equal to SSJ1 Gotenks. Gotenks had to go SSJ3 to match Super Buu. Meaning Super Buu was AT LEAST 8x stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

No way Janemba was THAT much stronger than Goku Good points. thumb up

Originally posted by carver9
Super Saiyan 3 Goku=Super Saiyan 1 Gotenks? Where did that come from?. For one, Goku stated on multiple occasions that the boys would become more powerful than himself after fusing. At the time he first made that statement, he certainly wasn't thinking that the boys would be able to reach a level beyond SSJ1 after fusing... He was only factoring-in their base and SSJ forms.

This implies that SSJ1 Gotenks ~/> SSJ3 Goku.

juggerman
Originally posted by NewGuy01
?

Originally posted by carver9
Super Saiyan 3 Goku=Super Saiyan 1 Gotenks? Where did that come from?.

Come on guys that's hardly new information

carver9
So you all think that because of a statement?

juggerman
No carver

carver9
Then what made you come to that conclusion?

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
So you all think that because of a statement? Do you think Goku was lying?

carver9
That comment was meant for Juggerman. I'll answer your question, just want to see his response.

juggerman
Originally posted by carver9
Then what made you come to that conclusion?

Look back at galan's response to you. The first two words specifically

carver9
Originally posted by juggerman
Look back at galan's response to you. The first two words specifically

I'm asking you though.

juggerman
Originally posted by carver9
I'm asking you though.

The manga shows us

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Buu + Piccolo + Gotenks < Gohan

...

No, just no.

Galan007
^ Lol, just saw that.

Obviously Bootenks > Gohan, and the difference between them was less than 2x.

juggerman
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
SSJ3 Goku ~= Fat Buu < Evil Buu < Super Buu < Buu + Piccolo + Gotenks < Gohan

Gohan is at least 4x as powerful.

This whole thing is wrong sick

carver9
Originally posted by juggerman
The manga shows us

Shows us what?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Shows us what?

Tentacle rape?

carver9
So Super buu fought Super Saiyan 3 Goku?

StiltmanFTW
Nope.

SSJ3 Goku managed to survive a short round vs Buutenks in the anime, but it was all about not dying.

juggerman
Originally posted by carver9
Shows us what?

Shows us Super Buu was vastly beyond Goku where as Janemba was stronger but not Super Buu stronger

Galan007
The fact that Goku --a guy who loves fighting powerful opponents more than anything else in life-- didn't even want to try and fight Super Boo speaks for itself.

Crimson Dragoon
I honestly feel Demon Janemba is substantially beyond SSJ3 Goku

He smacked Goku out of SSJ3 with indirect hits from his sword beams and Janemba only truly powered up in the end when Gogeta showed up

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