Fall of the Jedi

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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The Emperor's Wrath II, Darth Nox, The First Son, and Darth Thanaton begin a crusade to utterly crush the jedi order. Can this team defeat the jedi's finest, or will they be decisively beaten back?

1. Tol Braga, Satele Shan, and the Barsen'thor
2. Hero of Tython, Ulic Qel Droma, Vodo Siosk Baas, and Lucien Draay
3. Mace Windu, Obi Wan Kenobi, Plo Koon, and Depa Billaba
4. Luke Skywalker and Jaina Solo

B0ss: Grandmaster Yoda, Jacen Solo, and Cade Skywalker

All fights take place on flat/neutral terrain.

Run 2: Exar Kun replaces The First Son.

AncientPower
Run 1: Done at 4 unless Luke isn't prime.

Run 2: 4 or boss, Depends if Kun's JAT techniques are allowed.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by AncientPower
Run 2: Depends if Kun's JAT techniques are allowed.

Well it's peak Exar, so anything applies I suppose.

carthage
Run 1: 2. Thanaton dies to Vodo, Ulic kills Nox. Hero should be sufficient to hold off Wrath

Run 2: 4 or DOA at Boss

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by carthage
Run 1: 2. Thanaton dies to Vodo,

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Originally posted by carthage
Ulic kills Nox.

ehh...

Originally posted by carthage
Hero should be sufficient to hold off Wrath

What about First Son/Draay, tbh?

carthage
Ulic was repelling darkside energies on the darkside nexus of Onderon, and dropped Ommin and other powerful Naddists. Nox is an inferior duelist and Ulic can tank her lightning and TK.

Thanaton is a an inferior duelist, and would die to Vodo in any conflict. IIRC in a video Draay cleared an entire hangar bay of massive loading droids/sent Zayne Caarick flying over a city with telekinesis. What force feats or skill feats does First Son have to compare?

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Proof Ulic can tank her lightning and TK? Ulic's mental resistance against Ommin and his waves of darkness is undoubtedly impressive, but that's different than guarding against the raw power of Nox in the matters of TK and lightning.

I could just as easily argue Thanaton destroys Vodo in the force via his combat ritual/lightning.

The First Son was powerful enough to conceal his and the hundred's of children of the emperor from the jedi's senses, and was more powerful than the Barsen'thor (the latter only won due to Syo's mental intervention,) and 'Thor has a litany of good TK/combat feats and accolades.

ares834
Run 1: 2

Run 2: 3

AncientPower
The Barsen'thor is a Force Nexus tbh. Though in all seriousness his leaving a nexus upon death is very impressive.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by AncientPower
The Barsen'thor is a Force Nexus tbh. Though in all seriousness his leaving a nexus upon death is very impressive.

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carthage
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Proof Ulic can tank her lightning and TK? Ulic's mental resistance against Ommin and his waves of darkness is undoubtedly impressive, but that's different than guarding against the raw power of Nox in the matters of TK and lightning.

He's repelled Mando canon fire that can punch holes through Krath warships, her lightning isn't doing anything.



Proof he can use a ritual mid combat? Vodo can dodge his lightning, and Thanaton was getting owned by Kressh in a duel he isn't lasting long in sabers.



So nothing offensively that compare to Lucien's TK, Lucien should take that fight then.

AncientPower
Force lightning is harder to absorb than laser cannons.

carthage
Prove it. And he can dodge it as well or catch it on his saber. He's comparably powerful enough to take anything she can throw at him, but she isn't even close to being as skilled as Exar. Unless her lightning is more powerful than Mandalore's bolts in destructive potency, its unlikely it will do anything to his barrier

AncientPower
Starkiller charged a turbolaser with his Force lightning and said turbolaser subsequently obliterated a cruiser with one shot.

carthage
Which has nothing all to do with Nox's lightning which you haven't shown anything to suggest it could harm Ulic

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by carthage
He's repelled Mando canon fire that can punch holes through Krath warships, her lightning isn't doing anything

Considering even Thanaton's lightning was powerful enough that he could fly with it, kill a lenico gargantuan as an immensely weaker Teneb Kel, blew open a large metal stasis taken with a burst of FL as Teneb Kel, etc, I'd wager Nox's lightning would be able to put a number on Jedi! Droma.


Originally posted by carthage
Proof he can use a ritual mid combat? Vodo can dodge his lightning, and Thanaton was getting owned by Kressh in a duel he isn't lasting long in sabers.

watch?v=HzCBf8RZ4pI

15:30-16:00. And it's logically fallacious to compare Teneb Kel to SWTOR Thanaton.

Originally posted by carthage
So nothing offensively that compare to Lucien's TK, Lucien should take that fight then.

The First Son being > someone powerful enough to leave a force nexus upon death and defeat an ancient sith siphoning energies from hundred's of jedi simultaneously >>

SunRazer
They crush 1 before falling at 2.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by SunRazer
They crush 1 before falling at 2.

You're dead to me.

SunRazer
Run 2 they could get up to the boss.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
How low do you rate the First Son (of Mortis)?????????!@!#@!#@???

SunRazer
Enough to beat Lucien Draay.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by SunRazer
Enough to beat Lucien Draay.

So how do they fall at 2?

SunRazer
His victory is the only one there. The Hero takes down the Wrath, Ulic brings down Nox, and Vodo takes down Thanaton. They're all good fights, to be sure, but it's skewered in the Jedi's favor.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by SunRazer
His victory is the only one there. The Hero takes down the Wrath, Ulic brings down Nox, and Vodo takes down Thanaton. They're all good fights, to be sure, but it's skewered in the Jedi's favor.

Jedi! Ulic takes down Nox? And I'm iffy on Vodo vs. thanaton.

SunRazer
I thought it was Prime Ulic, lol. In that case, Nox wins a decent fight and I'll give the Sith the benefit of the doubt and say they progress to 3.

There, they win via power abuse (Depa and Obi-Wan are easy pickings for Nox, First Son etc.) Mace can beat anybody there but he can't carry his team. They progress to round 4.

Prime Luke could comfortably take on Nox and Wrath if he's not holding back - maybe even Thanaton as well. Jaina definitely takes down the First Son and comes back to aid her uncle in slaughtering the Sith.

They get humiliated in the bonus also. Yoda takes on Nox and Wrath at once while Jacen kicks the First Son's ordure up his ass and Cade brings down Thanaton.

Vodo probably beats Thanaton. He's not as powerful, but he isn't so far off that he'd get dominated, and he does have access to anti-Dark Side powers. Then there's the fact that he's just a better duelist.

Angelalex242
This team can't take Luke and Jaina. And so there will be no falling Jedi today.

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