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Who is taking this? No bfring.

Saitama.

How easy or hard depending on the version. I think he'd rather enjoy a fight vs high end Naruto.

Nah, Saitama is casual planet level with a single punch. Even Kaguya could only planet bust with her strongest attack, and she's far stronger than Naruto.

Saitama wins, again, with one punch.

damn saitama is pb level?

No. Boros was a planet buster. He stated that his strongest blast would destroy the entire planet, and Saitama casually punched the blast, and the air pressure caused by his punch completely blew away the blast, finished off Boros, and sent a shockwave all around the planet.

So Saitama is a CASUAL planet buster, at the bare minimum. Meaning he would do the same to Kaguya as he did to Boros. Because they both pique at planet busting. A much better fight would be Boros vs. Kaguya. Naruto vs. Saitama is just unfair.

Boros' attack could scorch the surface of a planet- it's a planet killer, but not in the 'planet go boom' variety.

And Naruto can deflect an anti-moon attack. And Saitama doesn't aim for the kill against humans, and the clones give him something else to keep busy with.


By Saitama standards, this is a muuuch better fight than most. He'll be using Serious techniques in it.

But even then, one blow on Naruto will KO him given how big of an impact his Serious Punch had on Boros.

Not to mention that (in the original webcomic thus far), Saitama is capable of dodging attacks from Lightspeed Flash with just as little effort as everything else he's done.

Saitama throws his fist in a random direction and lifewipes the planet.

Well clones is the biggest issue for Saitama.

Originally posted by danteiscool
But even then, one blow on Naruto will KO him given how big of an impact his Serious Punch had on Boros.

Not to mention that (in the original webcomic thus far), Saitama is capable of dodging attacks from Lightspeed Flash with just as little effort as everything else he's done.

Somebody threw an attack at Saitama at Light Speed? Scans.

Good point, clones are a viable strategy that could be used against a One-Puncher. Might make this reminiscent of Saitama's dream fight against the subterraneans.

That being said, if Saitama lands a serious blow on Naruto the fight is over. Also, there's the question of how much Naruto can harm Saitama; actually, a TSB should honestly be able to fatally wound him if he's not careful...

What is a TSB?

Truth Seeking Balls.

Honestly not even sure those would do more than surprise him. Tatter his clothes a bit.

Are they destructive blasts or is it an attack mixed with some versatility?

Originally posted by carver9
Are they destructive blasts or is it an attack mixed with some versatility?


They're kinda erase-anything orbs. Only nature chakra is known to be immune. And they can only go a fairly short distance from the user.


That said, one character who had them was almost beaten when an extremely powerful physical specialist used.... extremely powerful punches to strike him with air pressure and beat him down.


I mean, we're talking 'knock the target through kilometers of stone' punches, but still, something Saitama can do with no doubt.


And I think if Naruto hit him with one and it managed to work, his speed would mean he'd get out of the way before fatal injury was done.

We haven't seen how Saitama fares against piercing attacks. He no-sells blunt attacks, but he keeps dodging piercing attacks. So I have no idea how he would fare against a rain of chakra-infused kunais.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
We haven't seen how Saitama fares against piercing attacks. He no-sells blunt attacks, but he keeps dodging piercing attacks. So I have no idea how he would fare against a rain of chakra-infused kunais.

Would you count him biting a sword in half as a piercing ft? Had to have been some lip action during that scene.

I don't think so. The sword didn't touch his skin. He was able to bite it before it made contact due to his insane speed.

The problem is, Saitama is fast enough to dodge most, if not all, piercing attacks. The opponent with the piercing weapon(s) has to be faster than FTL (lol). I don't think that's possible.

Another problem is Saitama prob has toon force. Even though the weapon tries piercing his skin, it will likely just bounce off. Like when Beast King pounced (some people say he was scratched that time, though it hasn't been confirmed. If it did bounce, then piercing weapons don't affect him too) his head in the anime, and his head just bobbled a bit.

@Carver Truth Seeking Balls are arguably the most versatile fighting technique in Naruto, hence why they're reserved only for the top of the top class.

They can take on any shape given that they have enough mass, they can take on any of the three states of matter, and they're far more potent than Oonoki's Particle Release, which dismantles objects on an an molecular scale. Unless you're coated in Senjutsu or possess Six Paths chakra, anything touched by a TSB is disintegrated as far as we know.

It was a variant of a TSB that Kaguya was going to use to destroy the Genesis World as well.

@Q99 Gai wouldn't have been able to land a blow on him if it weren't for Kakashi and Minato warping away the TSB's though.

He did catch a sword with his hand, too.

Originally posted by NewGuy01

@Q99 Gai wouldn't have been able to land a blow on him if it weren't for Kakashi and Minato warping away the TSB's though.

He *was* able to blast Madara around with air pressure, though.


And Saitama is faster than Gai is.

Is he? I've heard some claims that Flash can move at lightspeed, but frankly haven't seen any evidence for it other than his name. It seems incredibly unlikely considering that Sonic, one of the series' faster characters, is only supersonic himself. If Flash is really a million times faster than him, you'd think that he'd be Rank 1.

Lightspeed is fast, but Saitama is faster, and Lightspeed Flash is basically like Sonic plus and, like you suspected, not lightspeed.

The flash is Infinite Speed he is FTL.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
The flash is Infinite Speed he is FTL.

Not DC's Flash, 'Lightspeed Flash,' from One Punch Man, S-class hero rank 13. He's a very high-speed hero but doesn't have something like the Flash's speed force or high-end tricks.

If that's the case, what makes you think Saitama is faster than 8G Gai?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
If that's the case, what makes you think Saitama is faster than 8G Gai?

Saitama did jump from the moon to the earth once.


Sorta like his punching, he doesn't max out on speed that we've seen either. A lot of the OPM characters have very impressive speed feats, but Saitama blows them away.

Originally posted by Q99
Saitama did jump from the moon to the earth once.


Sorta like his punching, he doesn't max out on speed that we've seen either. A lot of the OPM characters have very impressive speed feats, but Saitama blows them away.
The crazy part was he jumped back to earth before the debris even hit the ground.

Everything that happened when he was on the moon happened in a split-second.

Saitama is MFTL.......accept this

@ thread: Yeah, Saitama is FTL. He jumped from the moon to Earth in less than a second, and has moved much faster than that before.

He is superior to Gai in every way, when it comes to physical prowess/taijutsu.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
@Carver Truth Seeking Balls are arguably the most versatile fighting technique in Naruto, hence why they're reserved only for the top of the top class.

They can take on any shape given that they have enough mass, they can take on any of the three states of matter, and they're far more potent than Oonoki's Particle Release, which dismantles objects on an an molecular scale. Unless you're coated in Senjutsu or possess Six Paths chakra, anything touched by a TSB is disintegrated as far as we know.

It was a variant of a TSB that Kaguya was going to use to destroy the Genesis World as well.

@Q99 Gai wouldn't have been able to land a blow on him if it weren't for Kakashi and Minato warping away the TSB's though.

Um... Are you forgetting that Gai broke through the TSB barrier that Madara made? You know, by slamming Madara through it? And don't forget that Tobirama grabbed a TSB out of the air, and teleported it away, proving that enough durability/strength can overcome them, as they aren't unlimited in terms of DC. And Tobirama didn't have sage, or six paths chakra.

And the reason they warped the TSB's away for Gai is so he could land a DIRECT hit, meaning on Madara, without having to break through the TSB's. Remember how the sheer pressure of Night Moth getting close to Madara's TSB rod BENT it, without even touching it? Yeah, Saitama's normal punches are more impressive than Night Moth, by a LARGE margin.

TSB effects don't apply to Madara, because he's Six Paths.



The rod bent because Gai warped spacetime, not because his sheer force was high enough.

What's up with all the Saitama threads lately?

The dude is a gag character. Basally a looney toon.

Not exactly great for vs threads.

OPM's just in right now.

whats up with this saitama fascination

Originally posted by NewGuy01
OPM's just in right now.

high tier naruto characters actually mgihht be able to beat saitama based off of feats

Originally posted by NewGuy01
TSB effects don't apply to Madara, because he's Six Paths.



The rod bent because Gai warped spacetime, not because his sheer force was high enough.

Uh, what? That doesn't matter. You said that the TSB's can disintegrate anything, bearing senjutsu or rikudo chakra. This is clearly false, given the fact that Gai completely broke a TSB, with Night Moth. Meaning that sheer strength can overcome their vaporizing effect. It's just that Senjutsu and Rikudo chakra are highly resistant to it, like how a water type pokemon is resistant to fire type damage. FFS.

Um... You're high. Gai didn't warp space time, the pressure of Night moth simply bent the rod.

http://i1.mangapanda.com/naruto/672/naruto-4893001.jpg

See? Madara said, "He distorted the space", meaning quite literally that he simply bent the rod with air pressure. This is further proven in the next scan.

http://i7.mangapanda.com/naruto/672/naruto-4893003.jpg

Where we see the kick land, Gai has clearly broken the TSB rod in two, by kicking through it. Meaning he kicked with enough force to break the TSB, and had enough durability to bypass it's effect.

These two facts, coupled with the fact that Saitama is ridiculously more powerful than Gai, as well as faster and more durable, indisputably prove that Saitama would be unharmed by the TSB's, and be able to break them.

I could see his clothes getting tattered, but he'd otherwise remain uninterested, as he was against Boros, who was on Kaguya's level, in terms of DC.

Right, and Madara possesses Rikudo Chakra, hence why he can touch the rods without being disintegrated.

That's why if he's kicked into a TSB, it could be breached.




Uh, no, "He distorted the space" literally means, "he bent the space".

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Right, and Madara possesses Rikudo Chakra, hence why he can touch the rods without being disintegrated.

That's why if he's kicked into a TSB, it could be breached.




Uh, no, "He distorted the space" literally means, "he bent the space".

But if Gai broke through the TSB with just his foot...? Yeah, you don't even have a point here.

What do you think bending the space of something means? There was no mention of space-time continuum's, or whatever bull shit you claimed. He simply bent the space around the rod, with air pressure, which was strong enough to bend the rod itself. Proving that sheer force can bend/break TSB's, as well as overpower them.

The argument you're using here is the same thing as saying that Superman couldn't snap one of them, like a twig.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yeah, you don't even have a point here.

Yeah, I thought you were talking about something else, my bad here.



I think it means bending space, not bending air.

Either way I don't think it matters all that much, though.



I don't disagree. I'm saying they can't be physically touched by someone who doesn't possess Rikudo Chakra or Senjutsu.



No, that was the whole point of the "bending the space" panel. The reason he was able to get past the TSB at all is because he was moving fast enough that space distorted around him. His foot never came into contact with the rod, it bent around him and snapped.

Were that not the case, the rod would have simply slid through his leg as if it were a lightsaber.

So the argument is that Saitama would be able to physically touch Naruto's goudama thus eliminating his advantage? I'm actually curious as to how goudama would even affect him.

Also Madara still had his goudama rod after Night Gai landed so Gai did not actually destroy it.

TSB's can reform themselves, they're malleable.

what avbout sealing techniques

What about sealing techniques?

Yeah, I was wondering about that. What about Infinite Tsukiyomi? Will it affect him?

he hasnt shwon any defense to those type attacks or sealing techniques

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, I thought you were talking about something else, my bad here.



I think it means bending space, not bending air.

Either way I don't think it matters all that much, though.



I don't disagree. I'm saying they can't be physically touched by someone who doesn't possess Rikudo Chakra or Senjutsu.



No, that was the whole point of the "bending the space" panel. The reason he was able to get past the TSB at all is because he was moving fast enough that space distorted around him. His foot never came into contact with the rod, it bent around him and snapped.

Were that not the case, the rod would have simply slid through his leg as if it were a lightsaber.

No prob, lol.

The entire focus of the Gate techniques is utilizing air pressure in attacks. Morning Peacock, Afternoon Tiger, Evening Elephant, Night Moth, etc. The point was to show that Night Moth was so strong that the wind pressure could bend a TSB rod, not to suggest that Gai was so strong that he could warp space-time. Even Kaguya wasn't shown able to do that, and she was a planet buster.

But didn't I just show you that Tobirama GRABBED a TSB, and teleported it away AS it was exploding? He doesn't posses Senjutsu OR Rikudo chakra. He is a Senju, that doesn't automatically give him sage mode.

Refer to above point ^ Tobirama grabbed a TSB right before it exploded, and was unaffected.

http://i3.mangapanda.com/naruto/639/naruto-4297821.jpg

Sasuke's Susano'o was ALSO able to grab and stop it, before he even obtained Senjutsu or Rikudo chakra.

http://i2.mangapanda.com/naruto/641/naruto-4331999.jpg

And keep in mind that this is Obito AFTER he gained Rikudo chakra, and was able to control the Jyuubi. Meaning that his TSB's negated the edo tensei regen as well. Which means that Tobirama did this all, and even grabbed the TSB without being hurt, and didn't even need to regenerate, proving that touching a TSB won't hurt you, if you're durable enough.

I'm pretty sure there are even more instances, but those suffice.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So the argument is that Saitama would be able to physically touch Naruto's goudama thus eliminating his advantage? I'm actually curious as to how goudama would even affect him.

Also Madara still had his goudama rod after Night Gai landed so Gai did not actually destroy it.

They won't.

And the TSB's are fluid. They can reform or reshape as the user wants them to. So breaking them is kinda pointless, as they can just reform. But the point is that a strong enough person can overpower them, and endure them, without Senjutsu or Rikudo chakra.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Yeah, I was wondering about that. What about Infinite Tsukiyomi? Will it affect him?

Mental attacks haven't affected him yet. And he's fought psychic aliens, and the #2 S-class Psychic hero. So he probably has some form of mental fortitude that ties into some form of energy that he has. That's speculation, but it's too much of a variable at this point, to say whether Infinite Tsukiyomi would work.

Originally posted by yungz22
what avbout sealing techniques

Most sealing techniques could be overpowered just by being strong enough. Even the super advanced ones, like Edo tensei. Madara broke out of that, just by flexing his chakra.

Although I'd still say that the Totsuka blade would probably be unbreakable, even to people like Kaguya. And therefor, Saitama as well. But this is Naruto vs Saitama, not Itachi.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Yeah, I was wondering about that. What about Infinite Tsukiyomi? Will it affect him?
Infinite Tsukuyomi attacks anything that is alive.
Originally posted by yungz22
he hasnt shwon any defense to those type attacks or sealing techniques
Depends on the sealing level
Example: Saitama cant escape the six paths tools.
Example: Saitama cant be sealed by a reincarnation sealing technique.

See my point?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The entire focus of the Gate techniques is utilizing air pressure in attacks. Morning Peacock, Afternoon Tiger, Evening Elephant, Night Moth, etc. The point was to show that Night Moth was so strong that the wind pressure could bend a TSB rod

It's possible, but that's not the impression the text gave me.



Well, Kaguya is slower than Gai.



I suspect that he was only lightly touching it, which is all that's needed for Hiraishin. That would still damage the surface of his hand, but he's made out of earth and feels no pain. We've seen Edo-Tensei bodies get disintegrated by the stuff before.



As I recall, that didn't actually stop it.



Possible, but nothing within the Narutoverse can beat them conventionally.

Lo Saitama would probably see IT and be like, "could someone turn off the lights?"

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's possible, but that's not the impression the text gave me.



Well, Kaguya is slower than Gai.



I suspect that he was only lightly touching it, which is all that's needed for Hiraishin. That would still damage the surface of his hand, but he's made out of earth and feels no pain. We've seen Edo-Tensei bodies get disintegrated by the stuff before.



As I recall, that didn't actually stop it.



Possible, but nothing within the Narutoverse can beat them conventionally.

Well that's kinda been the point of the Gate attacks that Gai uses, over the course of the entire series. Which is the reason that Hirudora completely ate Kisame's Super Shark Bomb. Remember?

Well yeah, but Kaguya is pretty slow, tbh. She's also not demonstrably that physically strong. She just has 10X more chakra than anyone else on the planet. She was even slow enough to get dominated by bloodlusted Naruto, who wasn't able to blitz Jyuubidara, even with Hiraishin.

So? lol, lightly touching is still touching. And if it would disintegrate him, like you say, he wouldn't be able to make contact AT ALL, since it would completely vaporize any part of him that touched it. But he clearly had enough durability to withstand it. Whether he infused his hand with chakra to do so or not, it still proves me right.

And no, we've seen Edo tensei bodies get destroyed by TSB's offensive power, when being launched by the user. Meaning it had enough force in it to destroy the body, not that it simply vaporized it by touching it. The TSB does damage more similar to a bullet, than a laser. It's essentially a super hot, hard projectile. And if you can withstand the heat, you can touch it while it's not moving. But that doesn't mean you'll be strong enough to grab it while it's being shot at you.

He... Did. I just showed the scan. That's the only reason Minato wasn't killed.

And by nothing in the Narutoverse can beat them conventionally, you mean the TSB's? I wouldn't say that. Again, Gai demonstrated that you can definitely break them, if you're strong enough. The only reason we see people with Rikudo chakra and Senjutsu fighting them capably so much, is because people with Rikudo chakra and Senjutsu are STRONGER than those without it. Hell, Naruto in simple Rikudo BASE form was able to KICK a TSB away, like it was a soccer ball. That was simply because he was strong enough to, because he got that much more powerful.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lo Saitama would probably see IT and be like, "could someone turn off the lights?"
Midnight Shamaylian says "What a twist."

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
No prob, lol.

The entire focus of the Gate techniques is utilizing air pressure in attacks. Morning Peacock, Afternoon Tiger, Evening Elephant, Night Moth, etc. The point was to show that Night Moth was so strong that the wind pressure could bend a TSB rod, not to suggest that Gai was so strong that he could warp space-time. Even Kaguya wasn't shown able to do that, and she was a planet buster.

But didn't I just show you that Tobirama GRABBED a TSB, and teleported it away AS it was exploding? He doesn't posses Senjutsu OR Rikudo chakra. He is a Senju, that doesn't automatically give him sage mode.

Refer to above point ^ Tobirama grabbed a TSB right before it exploded, and was unaffected.

http://i3.mangapanda.com/naruto/639/naruto-4297821.jpg

Sasuke's Susano'o was ALSO able to grab and stop it, before he even obtained Senjutsu or Rikudo chakra.

http://i2.mangapanda.com/naruto/641/naruto-4331999.jpg

And keep in mind that this is Obito AFTER he gained Rikudo chakra, and was able to control the Jyuubi. Meaning that his TSB's negated the edo tensei regen as well. Which means that Tobirama did this all, and even grabbed the TSB without being hurt, and didn't even need to regenerate, proving that touching a TSB won't hurt you, if you're durable enough.

I'm pretty sure there are even more instances, but those suffice.



They won't.

And the TSB's are fluid. They can reform or reshape as the user wants them to. So breaking them is kinda pointless, as they can just reform. But the point is that a strong enough person can overpower them, and endure them, without Senjutsu or Rikudo chakra.



Mental attacks haven't affected him yet. And he's fought psychic aliens, and the #2 S-class Psychic hero. So he probably has some form of mental fortitude that ties into some form of energy that he has. That's speculation, but it's too much of a variable at this point, to say whether Infinite Tsukiyomi would work.



Most sealing techniques could be overpowered just by being strong enough. Even the super advanced ones, like Edo tensei. Madara broke out of that, just by flexing his chakra.

Although I'd still say that the Totsuka blade would probably be unbreakable, even to people like Kaguya. And therefor, Saitama as well. But this is Naruto vs Saitama, not Itachi.


who in naruto overpowerd a sealing technique?

Overpowered?.......None that I remember unless you count Madara with his susanoo.

Originally posted by yungz22
who in naruto overpowerd a sealing technique?

Um... Well I just said Madara. Also Dan, who was a scrub. And Madara overpowered like ten sealing jutsu's, from the Gokage. Easily.

The only techniques that can possibly overpower Saitama, imo, is Infinite Tsukiyomi and Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. And probably TSB.

Kaguya can win by BFR via dimension warping.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
The only techniques that can possibly overpower Saitama, imo, is Infinite Tsukiyomi and Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. And probably TSB.

Kaguya can win by BFR via dimension warping.

^This.

And Kaguya could BFR him, but that's not really her style. She prefers to leach off of her enemies, before she kills them, which would lead to Saitama figuring out her dimension hopping, and, IMO, being able to make it back to the real world.

And of course, once he gets serious, he'd one-shot her.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
The only techniques that can possibly overpower Saitama, imo, is Infinite Tsukiyomi and Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. And probably TSB.

Kaguya can win by BFR via dimension warping.
Kaguya can only be defeated by the six paths chibaku Tensei lol.

Oh, I do. I'm just saying that Gai was already firing pressurized air canons throughout the fight, and this in particular seemed different; enough so to shock Madara.



Whether this is true or not, it's irrelevant to my point,



It wouldn't disintegrate him, it would just disintegrate any part of him that touched it. I.E, only the palm of his hand. It's stated to be similar but more powerful than the Atomic Dismantling Jutsu, and that effortlessly tore apart dozens of Madara's complete Susano'o lol.



I'm saying essentially it "delayed", rather than "stopped". And that was an incomplete TSB.

Refer to what I said above, too; it's destructive power surpasses Atomic Dismantling, which rips through stronger Susano'o like nothing.



He couldn't beat them conventionally. Prior to Night Moth, he needed extensive aid from Minato's Hiraishin and Kakashi's Kamui to get past them and pound on Madara.

The only reason Night Moth was different was because he was moving so fast that the space bent around him, making it so he never came I to contact with the rod. I wouldn't call that conventional.

No one else in the Narutoverse ever moved nearly that fast, anyhow. It's basically a tactic exclusive to him.



Again, that's because he possesses Hagoromo's chakra. Anyone who possesses it can touch them freely, hence why Madara and Obito can in the first place.

Notice that Madara didn't believe that should have been possible.

If Saitama is serious, as in, just using the power we know he has coupled with the out-of-character intent to put the verse away before they have a chance to attack; I think Saitama can win this, easily. I'm only 3 volumes into OPM and I think Ive seen enough to put Saitama over everyone in terms of speed and power.

However, if he decides, much like he normally does, to see what his opponents are made of; some of the Jutsu's discussed already will likely do him in.

The thing is, he'll probably just tank even the strongest attacks, like TSB and Midnight Moth. If not, he's still fast enough to evade them. I don't think 6 Paths Chibaku Tensei will hold him for long either, once he gets really pissed. The only attacks that will surely affect him are the passive ones, like Infinite Tsukiyomi and Kaguya's dimension warping.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Oh, I do. I'm just saying that Gai was already firing pressurized air canons throughout the fight, and this in particular seemed different; enough so to shock Madara.



Whether this is true or not, it's irrelevant to my point,



It wouldn't disintegrate him, it would just disintegrate any part of him that touched it. I.E, only the palm of his hand. It's stated to be similar but more powerful than the Atomic Dismantling Jutsu, and that effortlessly tore apart dozens of Madara's complete Susano'o lol.



I'm saying essentially it "delayed", rather than "stopped". And that was an incomplete TSB.

Refer to what I said above, too; it's destructive power surpasses Atomic Dismantling, which rips through stronger Susano'o like nothing.



He couldn't beat them conventionally. Prior to Night Moth, he needed extensive aid from Minato's Hiraishin and Kakashi's Kamui to get past them and pound on Madara.

The only reason Night Moth was different was because he was moving so fast that the space bent around him, making it so he never came I to contact with the rod. I wouldn't call that conventional.

No one else in the Narutoverse ever moved nearly that fast, anyhow. It's basically a tactic exclusive to him.



Again, that's because he possesses Hagoromo's chakra. Anyone who possesses it can touch them freely, hence why Madara and Obito can in the first place.

Notice that Madara didn't believe that should have been possible.

1. It was no different than the air pressure created by Evening Elephant. The only difference is that it was simply so much stronger, that it was able to bend a TSB rod. Where before, it wasn't. Which is what shocked Madara.

2. Yes, but my point is still that no one else had "warped space-time" in the series, despite moving faster and hitting harder than Gai. But plenty of other people broke TSB rods, and did feats similar to that.

3. Clearly you're not understanding here. Going by what you claim, the more that Tobirama would try to grab it, the more his hand would be closing into a fist. This means that his hand would be directly traveling towards the CENTER of the Goudama. IF the Goudama indeed effected him, like you claim, NOT ONLY would his hand have been incapable of gripping it to teleport(because his hand would have been erased as he tried to make a fist around it), but we ALSO would have seen his injury, as he wouldn't have regenerated despite being an edo tensei. Meaning he didn't just lightly graze the surface, he didn't get slightly hurt, he GRIPPED the TSB, and warped it away. Which is the entire point of the scene. You're wrong. Move on.

Who cares? It still STOPPED its movement. And if you're trying to convince me that Sasuke's Susano'o is weaker than a 4% clone Madara's Susano'o, then you're fighting a losing battle already, pal. Sasuke's partial Susano'o shielded him from things that Madara's 4% power clones didn't even have a chance to defend against, like Guillotine drop, Laiger Bomb, etc. And that was a WAY weaker Sasuke, before he even got EMS. Sasuke at the point of deflecting Juubito's TSB was definitely strong enough to do so. This is not an outlier feat.

Refer to what I said above. Atomic Dismantling "ripped though" the PARTIAL Susano'o's of Madara's clones, which were a scant 4% of his full power, and even THEY were toying with the Gokage. And atomic dismantling isn't even that impressive of an attack. We saw it put to shame by a KCM Naruto clones planetary rasengan, meaning it is pretty weak sauce. Which Madara's clone's and their Susano'o's were as well.

Naruto himself moves faster than that, when he was in Asura mode against Kaguya. He was able to imitate, and even outdo, Hiraishin with just his sheer speed alone. Gai was still visible to Jyuubidara, who's visual prowess was NOT as great as Kaguya's, meaning that Naruto was moving faster when he yanked her arm off. And again, you're claiming that Gai warped space-time, when all he did was break the TSB rod through sheer wind pressure. The word for warped and bent are interchangeable in both English and Japanese. If Madara wanted to say that Gai was warping space-time, he would have said so, or he would have at least used a different word, like distorted, or something. We've been over this a dozen times, his main power in his gates are wind pressure from his attacks speed. This is no different.

Yes, Madara didn't believe that it should have been possible, because Naruto was in BASE form. That was before he even saw his eyes, or noticed the Rikudo chakra in him. Meaning he was probably a little pissed to see Naruto kick away one of his most powerful attacks in his base form. Which is understandable, given how big of an ego Madara has. Not to mention the fact that even someone like Tobirama, who was much stronger than base mode Naruto, had to warp it away, and couldn't just toss it back at Jyuubito. The point is that Naruto not only became strong enough to overpower the force Madara was controlling it with, but he also became durable enough to withstand touching it directly.

This is Naruto. There is no magical energy that can overcome any amount of strength no matter what. That has been the biggest plot point through the series, that hard work can overcome natural talent. Meaning that since Saitama is more powerful, and more durable than ANYONE in Naruto, Kaguya included, he would be MORE than capable of freely grabbing a TSB, and jamming it up her baby maker.

Your entire argument here is that TSB's can magically bypass any durability, as long as you don't have Rikudo or Sage chakra. Which simply isn't true. You might as well say that Superman couldn't grab one either, without his hand being vaporized.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
The thing is, he'll probably just tank even the strongest attacks, like TSB and Midnight Moth. If not, he's still fast enough to evade them. I don't think 6 Paths Chibaku Tensei will hold him for long either, once he gets really pissed. The only attacks that will surely affect him are the passive ones, like Infinite Tsukiyomi and Kaguya's dimension warping.

^This. All day long.

Even the strongest sealing jutsu in the series has been overpowered, meaning that it can be overpowered even if it's used on a larger scale. So even if they made a moon around Saitama, with crushing gravity threatening to turn him into the size of an atom, he would still shrug it off with the casual ease he normally does. He might have to get kinda serious, but he'd still do it fairly easily.

And the only reason IT or dimension warping would work is because he presumably needs food/water to survive, and he can't legitimately defend again those two attacks.

Another reason is Saitama is just a human. He does not possess any exotic or supernatural powers. He does not have telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, the ability to fly, or time/space/dimension-warping powers.

I'm saying that no one ever moved faster than Night Moth in the verse.



I'm not sure why you think these are moves that are relevant to Madara tbh.



Atomic Dismantling is weak because it's easy to dodge, and it's shapes are difficult to use. In term of destructive power, none of Naruto's powers at that point even compare to it honestly. Even Rasenshuriken couldn't disintegrate Shinobi into nothing. It's easily one of the most potent abilities in the series.



Knowing Saitama, he probably could. Gai absolutely couldn't touch one, though, and in physical power he's the closest comparison to Saitama from Naruto.

It's just the most viable way a Naruto character could win, given that they had a chance in the first place.

saitama has zero defense aginst alot of haxin the naruto verse

Then again, all OPverse haxxx just doesn't work on him.

Originally posted by yungz22
saitama has zero defense aginst alot of haxin the naruto verse
It's impossible to say, since he has never fought enemies with the same level of hax in his verse.

All we know is that physical attacks on a global level have no effects to him whatsoever. Telekinesis has zero effect as well. All it can do is toss him around like a ragdoll, but it does absolutely no harm to him.

He is arguably stronger than 8-Gates Gai, so he will do some major damage against Juubidara. Only the strongest of the strong in Narutoverse (Hagoromo, his brother whose name I forgot, Naruto, Sasuke, Indra, Asura, and Kaguya) can win against him, because of their varied powerset.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
It's impossible to say, since he has never fought enemies with the same level of hax in his verse.

All we know is that physical attacks on a global level have no effects to him whatsoever. Telekinesis has zero effect as well. All it can do is toss him around like a ragdoll, but it does absolutely no harm to him.

He is arguably stronger than 8-Gates Gai, so he will do some major damage against Juubidara. Only the strongest of the strong in Narutoverse (Hagoromo, his brother whose name I forgot, Naruto, Sasuke, Indra, Asura, and Kaguya) can win against him, because of their varied powerset.

saitams power is physicaal based nothin g suggests he can handle hax