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With Liberals you don't get the luxury of getting to CHOOSE!

They funny that way.

how is the title missing? is that another issue since the server move?

oh and um, those damn libbytards grr what are they like huh!

Are you Dolos?

No. He is Nacho flavored.

The old Alinsky method. The left follow it completely.

Is this another political bashing thread? The missing title and lack of context are confusing. Anyway, I did a quick search on this. This is from Saul's Wiki:

In 1969, while a political science major at Wellesley College, Hillary Rodham Clinton chose to write her senior thesis on Alinsky's work, with Alinsky himself contributing his own time to help her. During her time as first lady, the thesis was not made publicly available by the school. Although Clinton defended Alinksy's intentions in her thesis, she was critical of his methods and dogmatism.

According to biographer Sanford Horwitt, U.S. President Barack Obama was influenced by Alinsky and followed in his footsteps as a Chicago-based community organizer. Horwitt asserted that Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign was influenced by Alinsky's teachings. Alinksy's influence on Obama has been heavily emphasized by some of his detractors, such as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. Thomas Sugrue of Salon.com writes, "as with all conspiracy theories, the Alinsky-Obama link rests on a kernel of truth". For three years in the mid 80s, Obama worked for the Developing Communities Project, which was influenced by Alinsky's work, and he wrote an essay that was collected in a book memorializing Alinsky. Newt Gingrich repeatedly stated his opinion that Alinsky was a major influence on Obama during his 2012 presidential campaign, equating Alinksy with "European Socialism", although Alinksy was U.S.-born and was not a Socialist. Gingrich's campaign itself used tactics described by Alinksy's writing.

Adam Brandon, a spokesman for the conservative non-profit organization FreedomWorks, one of several groups involved in organizing Tea Party protests, says the group gives Alinsky's Rules for Radicals to its top leadership members. A shortened guide called Rules for Patriots is distributed to its entire network. In a January 2012 story that appeared in The Wall Street Journal, citing the organization's tactic of sending activists to town-hall meetings, Brandon explained, "his tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective." Former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey also gives copies of Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals to Tea Party leaders

So is this an attack on one side? It sounds like people on both sides use it. To me, it seems more an indictment of political scheming in general than it does of scheming by a particular party.

Interesting stuff, no doubt. I hadn't heard of this guy specifically, but clearly his works have been influential.

Originally posted by Digi
Is this another political bashing thread? The missing title and lack of context are confusing. Anyway, I did a quick search on this. This is from Saul's Wiki:

In 1969, while a political science major at Wellesley College, Hillary Rodham Clinton chose to write her senior thesis on Alinsky's work, with Alinsky himself contributing his own time to help her. During her time as first lady, the thesis was not made publicly available by the school. Although Clinton defended Alinksy's intentions in her thesis, she was critical of his methods and dogmatism.

According to biographer Sanford Horwitt, U.S. President Barack Obama was influenced by Alinsky and followed in his footsteps as a Chicago-based community organizer. Horwitt asserted that Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign was influenced by Alinsky's teachings. Alinksy's influence on Obama has been heavily emphasized by some of his detractors, such as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. Thomas Sugrue of Salon.com writes, "as with all conspiracy theories, the Alinsky-Obama link rests on a kernel of truth". For three years in the mid 80s, Obama worked for the Developing Communities Project, which was influenced by Alinsky's work, and he wrote an essay that was collected in a book memorializing Alinsky. Newt Gingrich repeatedly stated his opinion that Alinsky was a major influence on Obama during his 2012 presidential campaign, equating Alinksy with "European Socialism", although Alinksy was U.S.-born and was not a Socialist. Gingrich's campaign itself used tactics described by Alinksy's writing.

Adam Brandon, a spokesman for the conservative non-profit organization FreedomWorks, one of several groups involved in organizing Tea Party protests, says the group gives Alinsky's Rules for Radicals to its top leadership members. A shortened guide called Rules for Patriots is distributed to its entire network. In a January 2012 story that appeared in The Wall Street Journal, citing the organization's tactic of sending activists to town-hall meetings, Brandon explained, "his tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective." Former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey also gives copies of Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals to Tea Party leaders

So is this an attack on one side? It sounds like people on both sides use it. To me, it seems more an indictment of political scheming in general than it does of scheming by a particular party.

Interesting stuff, no doubt. I hadn't heard of this guy specifically, but clearly his works have been influential.
Whatever, satanist. I don't believe your lies!

Tried to edit title but was unable to. Oh well.

Originally posted by long pig
Whatever, satanist. I don't believe your lies!

How do I know you, star and TI aren't satanists sent to spread discord and strife between man?

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
How do I know you, star and TI aren't satanists sent to spread discord and strife between man?

Ironic isn't that? Coming the online transvestites obsessed with little girls.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ironic isn't that? Coming the online transvestites obsessed with little girls.

See, this is a man dedicated to his work.

Perhaps Satan is behind all trolls on the internet.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
See, this is a man dedicated to his work.

Perhaps Satan is behind all trolls on the internet.




Guess that means you're a Satanist too then.

I know I am.

Originally posted by Star428
Guess that means you're a Satanist too then.

Maybe we're all Satanists.

Originally posted by Star428
Guess that means you're a Satanist too then.

If you say "too" in that kind of answer it sounds as if you were admitting yourself as a troll.

As per the discussion of the topic, I think it's a bit brief, but I can see wider sentences and maxims from classic strategists that would corroborate this kind of argumentation.

LOL. No, I was admitting nothing. Any fool can see that. When I said "too" I was referring to what FA's definition of a Satanist is. It's clear he/she just came in to troll when he/she called me, TI, and Long Pig all Satanists. I was just replying to her/his troll post in a like manner. You're making too much of it.

Randomly calling people Satanists isn't much better then trolling, tbh.

Especially when being a Satanist isn't really a negative or positive thing and thus it makes no sense to call someone it in an attempt to show they are trying to troll people or cause strife. You could of made up a random gibberish word and it would of made more sense in context.

You're all a bunch of Jehovah's witnesses.

Originally posted by Surtur
Especially when being a Satanist isn't really a negative or positive thing and thus it makes no sense to call someone it in an attempt to show they are trying to troll people or cause strife. You could of made up a random gibberish word and it would of made more sense in context.
Disagree. Have you ever met a satanist? They're total nerds. They basically treat it like DnD convention. Total sausage fest.

Maybe ONE chick is the group, the rest are pimple faced dorks.

Originally posted by long pig
Disagree. Have you ever met a satanist? They're total nerds. They basically treat it like DnD convention. Total sausage fest.

Maybe ONE chick is the group, the rest are pimple faced dorks.

You would think what you just said would be more insulting to Satanists then to other people, but the thing of it is..with all the fear supposed Satanists cause other people in this country(people flipped out over a statue) it would mean those people are all terrified of nerdy D&D players. That says less about the Satanists and more about everyone else.

As for the lack of females, perhaps it is because when a female rebels they just call it feminism?

Originally posted by Surtur
You would think what you just said would be more insulting to Satanists then to other people, but the thing of it is..with all the fear supposed Satanists cause other people in this country(people flipped out over a statue) it would mean those people are all terrified of nerdy D&D players. That says less about the Satanists and more about everyone else.

As for the lack of females, perhaps it is because when a female rebels they just call it feminism?
I agree. I have no idea why people are scared of them. They are harmless. They aren't bad people at all, just angry and lonely looking for something they feel they're missing.

Kinda like a lot of us.

Originally posted by long pig
I agree. I have no idea why people are scared of them. They are harmless. They aren't bad people at all, just angry and lonely looking for something they feel they're missing.

Kinda like a lot of us.




LOL. Who's afraid of them? A lot of people on this forum have the false assumption that just because a person doesn't like a certain group it means that they also fear them. LOL. Nothing could be further from the truth. A true Christian fears no one or nothing other than God Himself because He is the only One in all of creation who has the power to destroy both body and soul in Hellfire.

Confused (and somewhat broken) topic- closed.