Rank them in stealth

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riv6672
Taking into account feats, stats, power/skill sets, and how you see stealth best portrayed...

Nightcrawler
Batman
Daredevil
Deathstroke
Nightwing
Captain America
Invisible Woman
Wolverine
Martian Manhunter
Cat Woman

Henry_Pym
First is Bruce, last is Manjobber.

riv6672
Thanks for nothing. thumb up

ShadowFyre
In skill or just overall stealthiness? Cause Invisible woman can be invisible but shes probably noisy as **** and you can smell her vag from a mile away.

DarkSaint85
Batman
Wolverine
Martian Manhunter
Daredevil
Nightwing
Cat Woman
Invisible Woman
Deathstroke
Captain America
Nightcrawler

riv6672
Thanks, DS. Interesting rankings.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by riv6672
Thanks, DS. Interesting rankings.

Batman - for actually sneaking up on Superman, and only failing against Krypto (with enhanced senses).
Wolvy, for the Enemy of the State showings and general ninja skills
MM for his powers - although, interestingly, Martians still need to breathe, and so can be detected that way. Otherwise, he'd be top.
Daredevil - like Wolvy, but less skilled.
Nightwing - like Bats, but less so.
Catwoman - a thief, less reliance on gadgets than the Bats, which is both a strength and a weakness.
DS - can't really see him as being stealthy
Cap - Same, only in red, white and blue. I'm sure he has stealth showings in other suits, so interchange him if you wish.
Nightcrawler - he's accompanied by a BAMF noise, and the smell of sulphur. Not exactly stealthy.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman
Wolverine
Martian Manhunter
Daredevil
Nightwing
Cat Woman
Invisible Woman
Deathstroke
Captain America
Nightcrawler

thumb up great list.

riv6672
thanks for the breakdown, DS.
Nightcrawler also turns invisible in shadow, unless thats been retconned...

Digi
DS's list is solid, with the caveat that MM can get into some places unseen that the rest couldn't because of the nature of his powers. In terms of stealth skill, sure, he's further down the list. But there are places he could simply phase into that Batman on his best day would struggle to breach stealthily.

relentless1
Batman
Catwoman
Wolverine
Nightwing
Martian Manhunter
Daredevil
Invisible Woman
Deathstroke
Nightcrawler
Captain America

riv6672
Originally posted by Digi
DS's list is solid, with the caveat that MM can get into some places unseen that the rest couldn't because of the nature of his powers. In terms of stealth skill, sure, he's further down the list. But there are places he could simply phase into that Batman on his best day would struggle to breach stealthily.
Agreed.
I tried to throw a mix of power, tech and skill in there to see how everyone viewed things.

zopzop
IMHO it's :
1) Martian Manhunter (phasing, shapeshifting, and TP) they'll never see him unless he wants to be seen
2) Invisible Woman (invisibility and force fields) they'll never see her or smell her if she bubbles herself. They'll never hear her either if she rides her force constructs instead of walks on the ground.
3) Nightcrawler (invisibility in shadows and wall crawling). He doesn't even need to use his teleporting power.

Here's proof of NC's invisibility in shadows :
http://s15.postimg.org/6q7dbicvr/Shadow_Powers_Nightcrawler_21.jpg\

The rest of the list doesn't even compare.

riv6672
Nice scan.
Thats what i meant about NC.
Well thought out ranking of the three characters, too. Thanks.

DarkSaint85
Just because I hate zopzop sneer

Batman routinely has stealth abilities that hide him not only from Superman, but also MM (a telepath of the highest degree):
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Stealth/jla1-batjlastealth1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Stealth/jla1-batjlastealth2.jpg

Not even his heartbeat could be detected.

Here, he hides from MMand Supes who are actively looking for him:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Stealth/jlmidsummernightmare3-batmilitarystealth2.jpg

Edit: granted, some of that is because they're absolute idiots and looking the wrong way - HE'S BEHIND YOU! But still...

And he can do it even to a speeding Jay:
http://i.imgur.com/CaMBU.jpg

With respect to Invisible Woman, she can still be detected by the IR spectrum - she gives off body heat. And smells of Dior:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/3853/840854-invisiblewoman6.jpg

Martian Manhunter?
X-rays:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131355/3546371-1072395381-marti.jpg

Or hearing the breathing.

Granted, Nightcrawler goes invisible in shadow. But he still makes noise, smells, and has body heat. Not to mention X-rays etc.

DarkSaint85
Of course, none of that compares to Batman sneaking past Zauriel (with inner sight), Superman, WW, AND the frigging Spectre, across a room in broad daylight:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/120267/3582397-spectre24-batmagicstealth1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/120267/3582398-spectre24-batmagicstealth2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/120267/3582399-spectre24-batmagicstealth3.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/120267/3582400-spectre24-batmagicstealth4.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/120267/3582401-spectre24-batmagicstealth5.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/120267/3582402-spectre24-batmagicstealth6.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/120267/3582403-spectre24-batmagicstealth7.jpg

"This wasn't here a minute ago!" "Who could have made it past your defences?"

celeyhyga17
Batman

Midnighter should be on that list.

zopzop
@ DarkSaint85
The level of PIS surrounding street levelers, especially Batman, is legendary (he bloodied an Aspect of God with a kick for phucks sake). So it doesn't sway me at all.

My ranking was based on them being in a PIS/CISless environment.

Facee
Theoretically, shouldn't Nightcrawler be > Batman

Star428
Can't believe the black suited Spider-Man was left off your list, riv. I would say he's more stealthy than at least a few listed. AT least when he isn't shooting webs he is.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by zopzop
@ DarkSaint85
The level of PIS surrounding street levelers, especially Batman, is legendary (he bloodied an Aspect of God with a kick for phucks sake). So it doesn't sway me at all.

My ranking was based on them being in a PIS/CISless environment.

The Spectre allowed him to do it, to let him feel better. Obv he is so powerful, if he wants blood to flow to really sell an illusion, he can. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not exactly applicable for Batman as a combat feat.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/2215153-4.png

DarkSaint85
PIS would be the time Superman was unable to detect Batman, but Aquaman was...

riv6672
Yeah, i was going to comment on CIS/PIS in your scans, but you were having so much fun...! laughing out loud

DarkSaint85
Ha. Bats does it so often, if you question that, you may as well question everything....

relentless1
once again, some ppl just like to shit all over Batman and discount his feats, it isn't PIS if he does has these stealth feats all the time, is it PIS when Superman lifts something really heavy? no its not, he's done it so many times that its just a regular part of the character.

riv6672
Hey, i just wanted some rankings...stick out tongue

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
and you can smell her vag from a mile away.

laughing out loud laughing out loud laughing out loud

riv6672
^^^There's a nasty Reed/Namor joke i thought of when i first read that statement. no expression

relentless1
no heat directed at you riv, was commenting on zops comment

riv6672
No sweat, relentless1...thumb up

StiltmanFTW
Wolverine and Batman are the best.

Since Bruce's feats have already been posted, I'll list a few of Wolverine:

- sneaking up on Extremis Iron Man, who was able to detect Strange's astral form
- sneaking up on Vanisher
- vanishing in front of Nightcrawler, Kurt never even blinked
- vanishing while in a plane with Psylocke who was after her Ogun training
- laughing off Fantastic Four security systems, getting in without triggering a single alarm
- sneaking up on a deer... successfully... unlike that time when Shaman's student scared the deer

He has more.

DarkSaint85
When he disappeared from in front of Psylocke, he also got off that plane whilst surrounded by soldiers, right?

StiltmanFTW
Yes laughing out loud

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Psylocke 01

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_Psylocke01Page012.jpghttp://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/th_Psylocke01Page013.jpg

Wolverine ninja' vanishes from Psylocke, while inside the cockpit of the Blackbird, without her noticing. Presumably he also makes it off the Blackbird without being seen by the Japanese military who are surrounding it.

riv6672
I swear these characters travel between panels, like She-Hk used to under Byrne. huh

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
thumb up great list.

Yeah, DS' list is pretty accurate.

Originally posted by zopzop
Here's proof of NC's invisibility in shadows :
http://s15.postimg.org/6q7dbicvr/Shadow_Powers_Nightcrawler_21.jpg

Shadow blending. One of his forgotten powers. Good stuff...

riv6672
^^^i always thought that was a cool power.

StiltmanFTW
It was. No clue why it wasn't used more often.

riv6672
Yeah, like was said, forgotten power.

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