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Duel takes place on the Anakin Solo

No EU feats for Ventress or anything from Dark Disciple

Ventress still takes this. Tiin is above Kolar and he'd lose as well.

Tiin isn't above Kolar in sabers, lmfao.

Ventress. She beat Fisto so should beat Tiin.

She had a distinct form advantage against Kit which she doesn't enjoy against Tiin or Kolar.

Kolar > Vos > Ventress. estahuh

Ventress has thrown down pretty evenly with the likes of Savage and Grievous, survived numerous engagements with Anakin and Obi-Wan, and held her own briefly against Dooku. She's not losing a duel to a B-teamer lol.

Ventress beheads him.

Originally posted by SunRazer
She had a distinct form advantage against Kit which she doesn't enjoy against Tiin or Kolar.


Well that's subjective considering his form has an advantage against Jar Kai, as shown against Grievous.


Originally posted by Nephthys
Kolar > Vos > Ventress. estahuh


Can you imagine how nuts that would have driven these boards if they didn't come out and say the old EU was all Legends?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well that's subjective considering his form has an advantage against Jar Kai, as shown against Grievous.

Doesn't compare to the fact that Makashi was basically made to counter Shii-Cho, lol.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kolar > Vos > Ventress. estahuh

I doubt Kolar is better than Canon Vos. That being said I'm not sure who wins this

Originally posted by SunRazer
Doesn't compare to the fact that Makashi was basically made to counter Shii-Cho, lol.

What even Ventress's sloppy and unrefined version? Doubt it.

Fisto's ability against Jar Kai wielders should easily compensate for any weakness, lol

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kolar > Vos > Ventress. estahuh Ew.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Ventress has thrown down pretty evenly with the likes of Savage and Grievous, survived numerous engagements with Anakin and Obi-Wan, and held her own briefly against Dooku. She's not losing a duel to a B-teamer lol. Held her own against Grievous is an understatement, she pushed him back several times in their last fight.

I mean, clearly she was forced to flee, cause she was losing, but he wasn't totally dominating her.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Held her own against Grievous is an understatement, she pushed him back several times in their last fight.


True but it was a dark side nexus.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
I mean, clearly she was forced to flee, cause she was losing, but he wasn't totally dominating her.


Huh? If we're talking about TCW fight on Dathomir, she clearly won the fight, and only fleed from Grievous's forces firing at her.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What even Ventress's sloppy and unrefined version? Doubt it.

Fisto's ability against Jar Kai wielders should easily compensate for any weakness, lol

Ventress wasn't portrayed as sloppy and unrefined until TCW, lol. And even then, Luminara's Dun Moch backfired on her and she ended up being the one who looked sloppy and unrefined in that contest.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Ventress wasn't portrayed as sloppy and unrefined until TCW, lol. And even then, Luminara's Dun Moch backfired on her and she ended up being the one who looked sloppy and unrefined in that contest.


Well she did have impaired vision in that fight lol


Besides just because Ventress is Utilizes Unrefined Makashi, doesn't mean her overall Jar Kai skills are sloppy, or that she would lose to someone more skilled.

In direct reference to the Luminara fight Ultimate Star Wars says Ventress is "extremely skilled".. not seeing the lack of refinement. Neither did Luminara, ironically.

Well if Ventress is "extremely skilled" specifically in Makashi, then that would prove Soresu isn't weak to Makashi.

It's not, lol.

Well some posters claim it is giving that as the reason Kenobi consistently gets battered by Dooku.

Except that's never been stated or implied. Dooku is just faster and more skilled than Obi-Wan, and even then, Kenobi effortlessly deflected many of his blows in the RotS novel. By RotS, Kenobi isn't far from Dooku in skill.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Except that's never been stated or implied. Dooku is just faster and more skilled than Obi-Wan, and even then, Kenobi effortlessly deflected many of his blows in the RotS novel. By RotS, Kenobi isn't far from Dooku in skill.

Originally posted by ILS
In direct reference to the Luminara fight Ultimate Star Wars says Ventress is "extremely skilled".. not seeing the lack of refinement. Neither did Luminara, ironically.

Well SW: Absolutely Everything You Need To Know..

Confirms what Luminara said. That Ventress's saber skills are "Undisciplined and Not Perfect."

In the same book as the "top 5 red saber wielders" no less. Further proof the Top 5 is not a Power or Skill based ranking.