Name for the form that combines all aspects of jedi lightsaber dueling?

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Darth Demenos
if you combined all types of lightsaber dueling from shii-cho to vaapad from sus-ma to trakata and gave it a name what would it be?

DarthAnt66
Nephthys.

ILS
Sidious' form. smokin'

EmperorSidious2
Devastation.

Sinious
Originally posted by ILS
Sidious' form. smokin'
thumb up which should actually be called: Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nephthys.

FreshestSlice
Isn't this what Juyo and Vaapad are?

juyomaster34
imo,yes and no.
Juyo's weaknesses can be compensated if it was wielded by a true master or reinvented like
it's Juyo Kos and Vaapad variants .

To answer the question of a hybridization of everything,I would call it the way of the Saber Master.
or the Saber Master's Form .

FreshestSlice
They're really is no train of thought to what you just said.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by juyomaster34
imo,yes and no.
Juyo's weaknesses can be compensated if it was wielded by a true master or reinvented like
it's Juyo Kos and Vaapad variants .

To answer the question of a hybridization of everything,I would call it the way of the Saber Master.
or the Saber Master's Form .
http://www.sociobits.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/RIP-English_Facebook_photo_comment.jpg

carthage
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nephthys.

That's a really weak Lightsaber form mmm

juyomaster34
The thought is either yes which is my opinion.
No if its yours or anybody elses.

Juyo has two other variants, Juyo Kos and Vaapad.
Ok Vaapad is Juyo and Forms 1-6,imo. also w/unorthodox Forms.
Juyo is Forms 1,2,4,5,w/unorthodox Forms,imo.

The thought was talking about Juyo's weaknesses.
Along with the name of my Form.
Now was it any thought to ask a question that I already answered imo?
Any train of thought ,no, maybe,maybe not?

BC I thought I answered it imho.
Not in anybody elses opinion or train of thought.
You and Revanchist trying to start something?

My question,train of thought,sarcasm and all,with due respect.

juyomaster34
This is about Revanchist isn't it?
So you guys must be team Revanchist?
Did He tell you to gang up on me because of my reply?

He pulls your chains, and you attack,right?
What's so R.I.P. English about my reply?

Maybe he should call you a dumb ass and let's see how you respond?
Will you keep it clean or will you go for the jugular?

FreshestSlice
What in the actual **** are you talking about?

Trocity
Originally posted by juyomaster34
This is about Revanchist isn't it?
So you guys must be team Revanchist?
Did He tell you to gang up on me because of my reply?

He pulls your chains, and you attack,right?
What's so R.I.P. English about my reply?

Maybe he should call you a dumb ass and let's see how you respond?
Will you keep it clean or will you go for the jugular?

LOL...

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
What in the actual **** are you talking about?

DarthAnt66
This thread has become great.

ILS
Originally posted by juyomaster34
This is about Revanchist isn't it?
So you guys must be team Revanchist?
Did He tell you to gang up on me because of my reply?

He pulls your chains, and you attack,right?
What's so R.I.P. English about my reply?

Maybe he should call you a dumb ass and let's see how you respond?
Will you keep it clean or will you go for the jugular? http://i.imgur.com/E4fc5jX.gif

Revanchiste
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
http://www.sociobits.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/RIP-English_Facebook_photo_comment.jpg

XDXDXDXD

You see needn't to be french for commiting such errors....

+My pseudo is Revanchiste the french name.....

And yhea hello sockers !!! That's focking damn me overe here ! What do you want???

juyomaster34
I see this is a group hug type of gang up.
What am I talking about?
Read the reply again. Are you that slow?

Oh snap!!!There must be kids on the KMC.
Tell you what,I won't go there.

But its good to know that there isn't nothing smart about your replies.
Just childish rants bc some kid misunderstood my reply.
This is getting old. People still act like kids with immature rants and pics.

2015 the dumb generation. Everything is just dumbed down.
The sad part is that you kids play right along with the whole thing.
So sad.

juyomaster34
Ok for all the kids in the room,I tried to keep it rated G,
Ok Class,take out your dictionaries,and look up the word,say it with me,jugular.

For the slow and mentally challenged it means.....
Class? Say it with me, a yoke of the neck or throat,2. jugular vein.
either of two large veins in the neck carrying blood from the head.

Metaphorically speaking,do we keep it clean or go for the jugular?

Simpler term,Billy,that's the neck,have you ever seen a tiger grab its
prey by its jugular vein,to suffocate it?

In a galaxy far,far away term, Billy,you know that move Darth Vader does when he reaches out,
with his open gloved hand, and suddenly with the power of the darkside Force Choke his
helpless opponent into unconsciousness?

Do you know how he does it?
Well,its like a invisible hand applying pressure on his jugular,that means throat.
and he either chokes into unconsciousness,that means pass out,or he just simply dies.

That's all class,make sure you study your assignments,big test tomorrow!!!

Revanchiste

ILS
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Revanchiste
Welcome to the internet Yuyo.. Yhea I was like you.. But the troll eaten my soul...

Must admit... It is painfull but when it is done, it is a self pleasure......

The troll and the goof will conquer the world !!!!!

FreshestSlice
We don't pretend to down French. Know that we are genuine when we say you should do the same with English.

Revanchiste

Revanchiste
And since it is important , I mean it my voice screaming ou the Darkness of our society.... Our very own moralitry.
And don't let your sexual taste influence you..

juyomaster34
What are you talking about???
So its okay to name call.
But its wrong to defend yourself?
I don't care what you are, if myself, and millions of others can't understand what you're writing
we will tell you french,american,who ever .

Again,you misunderstood my reply.
This started by calling me a name.
Yet you spell insults in english,well but everything else is,not so well.

But yet these followers follow your insults.
And they are too scared to tell you the truth,that you Revanchiste are wrong.
I'm not disrespecting any race. Let's get that clear.

You're only excuse is that you're french?
But you can spell dumb ass,in english?
It's okay to follow this foolishness,right?

It's okay to attack me in groups of misguided pics and insults.
My english is not R.I.P.
I don't need ridiculous pics to voice my opinion.

Well,It's not okay,I'm not afraid of anyone.
If you're wrong whether american,chinese,hispanic,french,you're just wrong.
I'm not gonna allow any of you to disrespect me or bully me.

Bring your groups,bring your ridiculous,uneducated,and meaningless pics.
If my haters are so smart,then why do you follow ignorance and glorify it?
My name is Juyomaster34,not Yuyo.

If the owners of this web site decide to restrict my page then,I will understand.
As long as my attackers get the same treatment.
But look at my replies and look at theirs and juge for yourself.

Before you make that decision.
If I'm wrong then I'll accept it like a man, not like some little boy,or a coward.
If I'm right then it is,what is. No harm. No foul.

I'm a leader,not a follower.
In pass debates I have always done what was right,whether I'm right or wrong.
To the creator of this topic,I tried to voice my opinion to your topic,
and sadly got crucified for my so called twisted,broken, R.I.P. english of opinions.

Yet it's justified to follow a misguided person and glorify the ignorance that was displayed
on your topic. To slick /sly call me in little or poorly misguided broken english,a racist is insulting.
I did not display that type of ignorant behavior.

All I said was Revanchiste needs to learn how to spell.
Again,if you spell in plain english for everyone to read,dumb ass
And the rest of what you're saying is in broken french or whatever,then something is wrong.

You're only excuse is,again I'm french?
That doesn't excuse your ignorance of calling me a name,when I was only voicing my
opinion about Yoda's species from another topic.

Then the "followers of Ignorance" follow me to your topic and voice their misguided opinions.
With ridiculous pics and childish rants.
I lashed out in self defense.

My teacher rant was only explaining what jugular means and my way of using it in a sentence.
So I apologise for my furious replies on your topic.
In future references I will do my best to ignore BS and stay on topic.

carthage
Originally posted by Revanchiste
And since it is important , I mean it my voice screaming ou the Darkness of our society.... Our very own moralitry.
And don't let your sexual taste influence you..

what the ****?

Emperordmb
LMFAO

Revanchiste

Q99
Originally posted by Darth Demenos
if you combined all types of lightsaber dueling from shii-cho to vaapad from sus-ma to trakata and gave it a name what would it be?

Niman.


When you try and combine everything, you get... the hybrid form.


Toss an offensive form and a defensive form onto a hybrid form, and you still have a hybrid form that's balanced between offense and defense.


Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Isn't this what Juyo and Vaapad are?

No, while the 'final' forms they're both quite aggressive ones. They require a high degree of skill to make work, but they aren't as mixed as Niman, which contains elements of all the prior forms blended.

Q99

DarthAnt66
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FreshestSlice
Originally posted by Q99
Niman.


When you try and combine everything, you get... the hybrid form.


Toss an offensive form and a defensive form onto a hybrid form, and you still have a hybrid form that's balanced between offense and defense.




No, while the 'final' forms they're both quite aggressive ones. They require a high degree of skill to make work, but they aren't as mixed as Niman, which contains elements of all the prior forms blended.
Eh. One being more mixed didn't change the fact that it combines aspects of all previous forms.


As to whatever else is going on above, lulz.

Q99
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Eh. One being more mixed didn't change the fact that it combines aspects of all previous forms.

Juyo/Vaapad's not really described as combining aspects of all previous forms, are they? Like, I don't think there's any Soresu.

Wookiepedia says Juyo uses parts of Djem So and Ataru.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Q99
Juyo/Vaapad's not really described as combining aspects of all previous forms, are they? Like, I don't think there's any Soresu.

Wookiepedia says Juyo uses parts of Djem So and Ataru.

Yep Galen Marek would switch from Juyo to Soresu when on the defense. If Juyo incorporated all other forms he wouldn't need to do that.

Also I believe Juyo incorporates elements of Form V, but not necessarily the Djem So variant which is still the most strength based form and specific for fencing.

Q99
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yep Galen Marek would switch from Juyo to Soresu when on the defense. If Juyo incorporated all other forms he wouldn't need to do that.

Also I believe Juyo incorporates elements of Form V, but not necessarily the Djem So variant which is still the most strength based form and specific for fencing.


Mm, calling it Djem So rather than the other variant is my call, but it seems to fit with Juyo's aggressiveness.

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by Q99
Juyo/Vaapad's not really described as combining aspects of all previous forms, are they? Like, I don't think there's any Soresu.

Wookiepedia says Juyo uses parts of Djem So and Ataru.
Well as to why would Marek switch to Soresu, it's obviously more proficient. I'll hardly claim to be an expert on Lightsaber styles outside of Form V, though.

Either way, not really a big fan of Niman, for obvious reasons. So if that's the jack-of-all trades style, which it is described as, I'll pass.

Q99
Part of what it boils down to is, a large part of each style is simply their approach, and you cannot have more than one approach to combat at the same time. Be it offensive, defensive, or poised to switch between them. You can't actually be on both the offensive and defensive at the same time, so blending styles inevitably results in a jack-of-all-trades style.

Ushgarak
Please don't bring things so badly off-topic.

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