Itachi vs Pain

SSJGGogeta

Originally posted by SquallX
What feats put Itachi above Kakashi again?

Name me one, just one.

Also, Pain didn't even take Kakashi seriously. What happened after Tsunade pissed Pain off? Oh yeah, he causally destroyed a whole ****ing village.

In the end, Itachi is all hype with nothing to show for it. At least Pain actually has the hype and feats to back up his shit.

Besting an Edo Tensei Nagato, who had all the Path abilities, with zero effort, where KCM Naruto and Killer Bee were about two seconds away from getting vaporized/sent to hell.

Not to mention he has Yasaka Magatama to counter Planetary devastation, and his Totsuka Blade oneshots anything it stabs. INCLUDING NAGATO, MEANING THIS FIGHT ALREADY HAPPENED, YOU RETARD. thumb up

m530

If you mean the dolls, then Itachi wins that one, but if you mean Nagato himself,that's a different story. Itachi needed Naruto and Killer Bee to help him fight Nagato, while Kabuto was controlling him. He even used the Susano during that battle as well.

Jmanghan

Originally posted by SquallX
What feats put Itachi above Kakashi again?

Name me one, just one.

Also, Pain didn't even take Kakashi seriously. What happened after Tsunade pissed Pain off? Oh yeah, he causally destroyed a whole ****ing village.

In the end, Itachi is all hype with nothing to show for it. At least Pain actually has the hype and feats to back up his shit. Every single time they've fought, Itachi always wins. Rather easily too. Kakashi has never even been close on gaining the upper hand.

However, Itachi can't NEARLY match up to even half of Nagato's destructive power, and the Rinnegan >>> Sharingan.

NewGuy01

Doesn't matter, because Nagato only has 1 of his 6 powers in this fight, not to mention only one body.

AuraAngel

Itachi should be able to figure out a way to combat the gravity based powers. Against all 6 he'd have a challenge but against just the 1 he should be able to manage.

SquallX

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Besting an Edo Tensei Nagato, who had all the Path abilities, with zero effort, where KCM Naruto and Killer Bee were about two seconds away from getting vaporized/sent to hell.

Not to mention he has Yasaka Magatama to counter Planetary devastation, and his Totsuka Blade oneshots anything it stabs. INCLUDING NAGATO, MEANING THIS FIGHT ALREADY HAPPENED, YOU RETARD. thumb up

Right, its not like that fight wasn't pure trash and full of pis. It's not like Itachi didn't have help in the form of Naruto and Bee.

In that fight, Pain who was weaker than Nagato was able to subdue 6 tails Naruto, survived a partial Bijuu Bomb. Yet Nagato, story wise was force to go full retard mode.

I guess you forgot that Itachi along with Naruto and Bee attack the Shinra Tensei at the same time.

Lets also forgot that Nagato has the ability to absorb any energy form constructs.

Calling someone name because you're too stupid to debate, priceless.

yungz22

Yea pain took on the village but the strongest ninja werent in the village at the time

gai lee neji hiashi were all out of the village each of those ninja are capable of taking out more than one body

Henry_Pym

Pain got stronger with only one body...

yungz22

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Pain got stronger with only one body...

gai and lee together would own pain

AuraAngel

...As in all 6?

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
...As in all 6?

yea

AuraAngel

Not without the Eighth Gate is Guy beating Pain. And Lee obviously isn't beating Pain anytime soon.

SquallX

Current Lee is above any of the Akatsuki minus Obito, Madara, Nagato.

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Not without the Eighth Gate is Guy beating Pain. And Lee obviously isn't beating Pain anytime soon. taijutsu is peins weakness they would **** him up with gates....notice i said them two together as well

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Not without the Eighth Gate is Guy beating Pain. And Lee obviously isn't beating Pain anytime soon.

seven gates gai fought on par with sage madara in taijutsu. eight gates gai surpassed sage mdara in taijutsu you mena to tell that that gai cant beat pein..... funny

AuraAngel

Originally posted by SquallX
Current Lee is above any of the Akatsuki minus Obito, Madara, Nagato.

Based on his impressive showings right?

Originally posted by yungz22
taijutsu is peins weakness they would **** him up with gates....notice i said them two together as well
Originally posted by yungz22
seven gates gai fought on par with sage madara in taijutsu. eight gates gai surpassed sage mdara in taijutsu you mena to tell that that gai cant beat pein..... funny

Which is why Kiba and momma Kiba killed the Pain weakest to Taijutsu correct? It's why Choji and daddy Choji could kill Pain correct? Lee and Guy are not the only taijutsu specialists the village has and Naruto in Sage Mode is certainly stronger than Rock Lee.

Also you have a weird definition of on par with considering Madara did basically dismiss 7 Gates Guy with one attack. Specifically a smack.

Don't misunderstand though. 7 Gates Guy would certainly wreck a lot of Pain's bodies and Deva Path would basically have to go all out to counter the Afternoon Tiger. But that is one shot before Guy is basically done. Pain simply has more lasting power in a fight.

Or are you both suggesting that Guy is that far above Jiraiya?

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Based on his impressive showings right?

Which is why Kiba and momma Kiba killed the Pain weakest to Taijutsu correct? It's why Choji and daddy Choji could kill Pain correct? Lee and Guy are not the only taijutsu specialists the village has and Naruto in Sage Mode is certainly stronger than Rock Lee.

Also you have a weird definition of on par with considering Madara did basically dismiss 7 Gates Guy with one attack. Specifically a smack.

Don't misunderstand though. 7 Gates Guy would certainly wreck a lot of Pain's bodies and Deva Path would basically have to go all out to counter the Afternoon Tiger. But that is one shot before Guy is basically done. Pain simply has more lasting power in a fight.

Or are you both suggesting that Guy is that far above Jiraiya?

did you literally just compare kiba and his mom to gai and lee -__-

also 7 gates gai and madara were trading blows before madara overwhelmed him...this is more than anyone else at the time could do and yet he cant beat pain lol funny

SquallX

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Based on his impressive showings right?

You do know current Lee kicked a meteor in half that was going to destroy Konoha right?

yungz22

Originally posted by SquallX
You do know current Lee kicked a meteor in half that was going to destroy Konoha right?

and that wasnt even current lee lol he was still a teenager at that point lol

AuraAngel

Trading blows huh? Does this mean Hinata is around Jiraiya level?

Originally posted by SquallX
You do know current Lee kicked a meteor in half that was going to destroy Konoha right?

Yep. Compared to Pain destroying the village by staring at it I am not as impressed. He's also below characters like Itachi, Kisame, Deidara, and likely Sasori if we're being honest.

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Trading blows huh? Does this mean Hinata is around Jiraiya level?

log off

AuraAngel

Why? Because I implied something stupid the manga didn't support?

You place Guy significantly higher than Jiraiya. There is no other way to say it. Pain could, with one touch, kill any character he wants.

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Why? Because I implied something stupid the manga didn't support?

You place Guy significantly higher than Jiraiya. There is no other way to say it. Pain could, with one touch, kill any character he wants.

yes guy sensei is stronger than jiraiya madara specifically dubbed gai as the strongest person he has ever fought

think about it if pein is as good as you say why did naruto beat him sage naruto cant beat gai either

AuraAngel

Originally posted by yungz22
yes guy sensei is stronger than jiraiya

Well I disagree. Kisame thinks he can fight Guy evenly(and he more or less can since he had to fight Guy without Samehada at the end) but was none too keen on the idea of fighting Jiraiya even with Itachi's help.

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Well I disagree. Kisame thinks he can fight Guy evenly(and he more or less can since he had to fight Guy without Samehada at the end) but was none too keen on the idea of fighting Jiraiya even with Itachi's help.

kisame lost to gai every time they fought......itachi even knew to retreat once gai came to help kakashi kurenai and asuma

.....none of this even matter becsause sage madara already dubbed hum the strongest and even kakashi who did very well against pein admitted that gai was stronger than him only you dont think so because you dont like it.... show me jiraiya doing anything close to what gai has shown us.....the whole premise of naruto is that the next genertion surpasses the past and gai surpassed the past

AuraAngel

Itachi would definitely beat Guy.

Well yeah if we're taking 8 Gates into the system then obviously Might Guy is above anyone in the series sans Sasuke, Naruto, Kakabito, Juubidara, Juubito(maybe?), and Kaguya. He also dies doing it.

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Itachi would definitely beat Guy.

Well yeah if we're taking 8 Gates into the system then obviously Might Guy is above anyone in the series sans Sasuke, Naruto, Kakabito, Juubidara, Juubito(maybe?), and Kaguya. He also dies doing it.

how owuld itachi beat gai if gai injured SAGE MADARA lol your love for certain chracters taints your judgement....itachis awesome but hes not beating an all out gai. he is the strongest non sage influence ninja in the verse nd thats fact...unless your saying madara is wrong

he wouldnt even need 8 gates honeslty if 6 tails naruto can over power shinra tensei 7 gates would be more than enough not to mention lee is there with him.

if kakashi, gai and naruot, can take out more than one body by themselves lee and gai are mroe than capapble of doing the same if not more.

AuraAngel

Guy injured Sage Madara when he opened the Eighth Gate. With 7 Guy could do nothing to Madara. Hell, he failed to do much to Edo Madara with an Afternoon Tiger to the face, though he did break the imperfect Susano'o.

7 Gates could potentially overpower Shinra Tensei(though not the one used against the village) but whenever we see him use it it is basically a one and done attack. Guy has never used Afternoon Tiger in rapid succession and against a guy who can heal his dead bodies that is a bad spot to be in.

Kakashi died and Sage Naruto had to help doing as well as he did.

Sakura did more harm to Kaguya than Seven Gates Guy did to Juubidara. Does that mean she is above him? No of course not lol.

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Guy injured Sage Madara when he opened the Eighth Gate. With 7 Guy could do nothing to Madara. Hell, he failed to do much to Edo Madara with an Afternoon Tiger to the face, though he did break the imperfect Susano'o.

7 Gates could potentially overpower Shinra Tensei(though not the one used against the village) but whenever we see him use it it is basically a one and done attack. Guy has never used Afternoon Tiger in rapid succession and against a guy who can heal his dead bodies that is a bad spot to be in.

Kakashi died and Sage Naruto had to help doing as well as he did.

Sakura did more harm to Kaguya than Seven Gates Guy did to Juubidara. Does that mean she is above him? No of course not lol.

of course he wouldnt do much to an edo.....its an edo

gai would have done more damage than sakura did had he fought her. so that point is moot.

sorry but just face it man had gai been in the village things would have gone different...why do you think kishi made him lee and neji be out of the village at the time..... its because kishi knows had they been there things would have gone differently

you just love pein its ok

AuraAngel

I vastly prefer Guy to Pain lol.

Guy didn't disintegrate him or force him to regen, which is the point. The imperfect Susano'o blocked it. The puts it below Sasuke's Kirin funnily enough.

Yep. Kishi wrote Guy out of the picture so Pains attack would go better. He also wrote that Guy and Lee would get in Naruto's way. Guy is also astonished at how much damage Pain did to the village. Keep in mind, Pain only needs one touch to kill his opponents and he can actually somewhat spam his strongest attacks, unlike 7 Gates Guy.

Demonic Phoenix

Why would Guy use 8 Gates against Pain or Itachi?

AuraAngel

True. He only uses it to protect something precious. Something he'd die for.

He should have used it to just beat Juubito. Would have been helpful.

wakkawakkawakka

Would Deva path be able to dispel Amateratsu like Edo Nagato did? I still think Itachi would win with that aside.

Also couldn't Juubito just trap Gai in that barrier tech and nuke him?

Damborgson

I think he could blow the flames off, but if he hits him in the face with him, it'll probably still leave a scratch.

AuraAngel

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Would Deva path be able to dispel Amateratsu like Edo Nagato did? I still think Itachi would win with that aside.

Also couldn't Juubito just trap Gai in that barrier tech and nuke him?

Should be able to. I'm not sure how much "pain" Nagato actually feels through his puppets.

He could but Guy is just such a fast son of a ***** in 8 Gates lol. He wouldn't be able to beat Juubito alone but with Naruto/Sasuke's help he would have finished him much faster and they could have taken care of Edo Madara before he got revived.

Obito is a weird character when it comes to showings though.

yungz22

gai doesnt need 8 gates against deva path 7 gates is already fast enough and strong enough to beat him... the pein bodies weakness is taijutsu and gai is the greatest taijutsu user in the world. 6 tails naruto could overpower shinra tensei i dont see why gai or afternoon tiger couldnt do the same.....kakashi almost beat deva path and naruto did beat deva path gai is capable of the same.....

now if gai fought nagato himself its possible then hed def need 8 gates

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
I vastly prefer Guy to Pain lol.

Guy didn't disintegrate him or force him to regen, which is the point. The imperfect Susano'o blocked it. The puts it below Sasuke's Kirin funnily enough.

Yep. Kishi wrote Guy out of the picture so Pains attack would go better. He also wrote that Guy and Lee would get in Naruto's way. Guy is also astonished at how much damage Pain did to the village. Keep in mind, Pain only needs one touch to kill his opponents and he can actually somewhat spam his strongest attacks, unlike 7 Gates Guy.

anybody would be surprised if they left home and came back to a destroyed village.... that doesnt mean anything lol

AuraAngel

Originally posted by yungz22
gai doesnt need 8 gates against deva path 7 gates is already fast enough and strong enough to beat him... the pein bodies weakness is taijutsu and gai is the greatest taijutsu user in the world. 6 tails naruto could overpower shinra tensei i dont see why gai or afternoon tiger couldnt do the same.....kakashi almost beat deva path and naruto did beat deva path gai is capable of the same.....

now if gai fought nagato himself its possible then hed def need 8 gates

Taijutsu is not Pain's weakness. Jiraiya's use of it couldn't beat Pain, nor Kakashi, nor Inuzuka style, nor Akimichi style, nor Naruto's taijutsu, nor Hyuga style. Only one pain is explicitly called weak to taijutsu and even that one lasted a long time. Yet you think Guy, who is Kakashi level(as per their rivalry), can defeat all the Paths lol. By the way, Kakashi did not almost beat the Deva Path. Kakashi had help and still lost to only two bodies. Naruto beat a Pain who had just performed two massively powerful techniques that greatly take a toll on his body. Before that Pain had him beat quite handily because even two bursts of Sage Mode could not give Naruto the stamina needed to beat Pain.

Pain's Shira Tensei has better showings. It wrecked an entire village while Guy's Afternoon Tiger shook an island. Pain was left without his gravity powers for a few minutes, tops, but Guy has repeatedly been shown only using Afternoon Tiger once before being too weakened to do much else(except open 8 Gates of course). One of Pain's casual Shinra Tensei was able to break every bone in Gamabunta's body and his body is a little bit bigger than Guy's. Even if I concede that Afternoon Tiger could overcome the city busting Shinra Tensei, that still leaves Chibaku Tensei which took the combined efforts of a Rasenshuriken, Itachi's Susano'o, and the Hachibi's Bijuudama to destroy(Naruto's mini-bijuudama in 6 tails couldn't). For as impressive as Afternoon Tiger is it is, after all, only concentrated air. That is why Kisame could survive it. Meanwhile, the only reason 6-Tails Naruto could take the Shinra Tensei was because he used his tails as an anchor. KCM Naruto, who is obviously above a rage induced 6 Tails, and Bee, who is the same, were both blown away by it easily later in the war.

Your argument hinges on Afternoon Tiger alone by the way. The 6th Gate is certainly nothing before Shinra Tensei and anything below is not worth mentioning. Guy has never fought a prolonged battle with 7 Gates because it absolutely destroys his body to the point where a few minutes after using his best move he is unable to stop a shark from eating him. He'd have to take out all of the Pain's in one shot and he simply will not be doing that. If only because push come to show the Animal Path will summon stuff to block the move.

yungz22

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Taijutsu is not Pain's weakness. Jiraiya's use of it couldn't beat Pain, nor Kakashi, nor Inuzuka style, nor Akimichi style, nor Naruto's taijutsu, nor Hyuga style. Only one pain is explicitly called weak to taijutsu and even that one lasted a long time. Yet you think Guy, who is Kakashi level(as per their rivalry), can defeat all the Paths lol. By the way, Kakashi did not almost beat the Deva Path. Kakashi had help and still lost to only two bodies. Naruto beat a Pain who had just performed two massively powerful techniques that greatly take a toll on his body. Before that Pain had him beat quite handily because even two bursts of Sage Mode could not give Naruto the stamina needed to beat Pain.

Pain's Shira Tensei has better showings. It wrecked an entire village while Guy's Afternoon Tiger shook an island. Pain was left without his gravity powers for a few minutes, tops, but Guy has repeatedly been shown only using Afternoon Tiger once before being too weakened to do much else(except open 8 Gates of course). One of Pain's casual Shinra Tensei was able to break every bone in Gamabunta's body and his body is a little bit bigger than Guy's. Even if I concede that Afternoon Tiger could overcome the city busting Shinra Tensei, that still leaves Chibaku Tensei which took the combined efforts of a Rasenshuriken, Itachi's Susano'o, and the Hachibi's Bijuudama to destroy(Naruto's mini-bijuudama in 6 tails couldn't). For as impressive as Afternoon Tiger is it is, after all, only concentrated air. That is why Kisame could survive it. Meanwhile, the only reason 6-Tails Naruto could take the Shinra Tensei was because he used his tails as an anchor. KCM Naruto, who is obviously above a rage induced 6 Tails, and Bee, who is the same, were both blown away by it easily later in the war.

Your argument hinges on Afternoon Tiger alone by the way. The 6th Gate is certainly nothing before Shinra Tensei and anything below is not worth mentioning. Guy has never fought a prolonged battle with 7 Gates because it absolutely destroys his body to the point where a few minutes after using his best move he is unable to stop a shark from eating him. He'd have to take out all of the Pain's in one shot and he simply will not be doing that. If only because push come to show the Animal Path will summon stuff to block the move.

you act like afternoon tiger is the only thing gai does in 7 gates..... he doesnt have to use that technique. in that form hes already stronger and faster than god realm. Rock Lee split a meteor with his fist in 6 gates. you dont think gai is capable of the same if not more

AuraAngel

Pain can keep up with Sage Mode Naruto/Jiraiya, Kakashi, and Killer B. Kisame was able to react to and counter Guy with 7 Gates open. Pain should be fine with reacting to Guy though the punches should hurt some of the lesser bodies(Deva Path could take hits from Naruto without issue after all).

Henry_Pym

The Gai wank in here is crazy...

Pain could literally levitate him and flick pins at him till gai dies...

yungz22

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
The Gai wank in here is crazy...

Pain could literally levitate him and flick pins at him till gai dies...
how is it wank sage naruto beat pain lol... unless yall saying sage naruto is stronger than gai.

someone madara dubbed as the strongest

NewGuy01

Sage Mode Naruto is inferior to Pain, and unless he opens Gates 7 & 8 Gai is at a definite disadvantage against SM Naruto, even barring Rasenshuriken and Summoning.

yungz22

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Sage Mode Naruto is inferior to Pain, and unless he opens Gates 7 & 8 Gai is at a definite disadvantage against SM Naruto, even barring Rasenshuriken and Summoning.

yea once gai uses the gates its pretty much over for pein.

nagato vs gai might be a different story tho since its all the powers in one body

Astner

Itachi already fought revitalized Nagato, and when he went Susanō stage 3 the battle ended rather quickly.

http://i.imgur.com/xV5vmTQ.png

yungz22

Originally posted by Astner
Itachi already fought revitalized Nagato, and when he went Susanō stage 3 the battle ended rather quickly.

http://i.imgur.com/xV5vmTQ.png

itachi didnt fight him on his own

Astner

Originally posted by yungz22
itachi didnt fight him on his own
No. But all it takes is a cut with Totsuka and Nagato goes down. And I don't think Nagato can penetrate the armor of Susanō stage 3.

yungz22

Originally posted by Astner
No. But all it takes is a cut with Totsuka and Nagato goes down. And I don't think Nagato can penetrate the armor of Susanō stage 3.

nagato was distracted when itachi stabbed him

Astner

Originally posted by yungz22
nagato was distracted when itachi stabbed him
I'm pretty sure Itachi is keen enough to distract him on his own.

Demonic Phoenix

Originally posted by yungz22
nagato was distracted when itachi stabbed him

Running out of excuses there mate.

AuraAngel

Most people don't want Itachi to be that good. Cause he is sorta the worst character.

Not that that has any bearing on the fight. Against one Pain body Itachi will win. Against Nagato I have no idea honestly.

Demonic Phoenix

Naw, worst character is between Danzou, Kaguya and that Shin Sr. dude I think.

Although to be fair, Danzou had a good death scene, and Shin Sr. had no eyebrows, so Kaguya takes the title.

AuraAngel

Problem is I'm not being asked to give metaphorical blow jobs to those characters like Kishi wants me to for Itachi.

Danzo used to be my least favorite but the guy had cool wind techniques, a pretty good fight with Sasuke, and a good last line. Shin Sr. was never meant to be anything other than a quick villain to beat up and he did his job fine enough I guess. Kaguya....isn't so much a character as she is just the Juubi in lady form. I see what Kishi is doing there(creating a foil to Kushina) but it failed to impress in every way lol.

Astner

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Naw, worst character is between Danzou,
What?! How is Danzō not the best character in the entire manga? He was the head of the intelligence department of the Anbu-unit and he had his scouts's bodies sealed so they couldn't leak information; and his entire arsenal of techniques were stolen from deceased ninjas, something that was hinted to take place as early as the Zabuza arc. He was literally the only competent ninja we got to know.

wakkawakkawakka

Isn't Danzo ultimately just a lesser Tobirama. Not that it has anything to do with this match-up.

Astner

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Isn't Danzo ultimately just a lesser Tobirama.
The only thing Tobirama surpassed Danzō in was power.

wakkawakkawakka

Don't forget being Hokage and Uchiha prejudice.

Astner

Danzō was Hokage when he died.

AuraAngel

He really wasn't lol. Kishi went out of his way to basically say Danzo was never Hokage.

He's also an idiot. thumb up

The best ninja in the series is Black Zetsu anyway.

Henry_Pym

Originally posted by yungz22
how is it wank sage naruto beat pain lol... unless yall saying sage naruto is stronger than gai.

someone madara dubbed as the strongest Sage mode lost hard... Lol

A revived Nine tails broke Naruto free aka Plot-no-jutsu.

Gai has no way to escape gravity.

yungz22

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Running out of excuses there mate.

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/551/14

looks like a full on distraction to me plus there is no evidence itachi can break out of chibaku tensei on his own.

itachi did have two jinchurikki with him at the time

hes a great ninja but i cant give that victory to him

Demonic Phoenix

Originally posted by yungz22
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/551/14

looks like a full on distraction to me plus there is no evidence itachi can break out of chibaku tensei on his own.

itachi did have two jinchurikki with him at the time

hes a great ninja but i cant give that victory to him

That isn't a distraction, that's concealment. Nagato isn't looking somewhere else/has his attention diverted when Itachi stabs him. Also, ninjas make a living out of using deception.

Who said he beat Nagato fairly?

yungz22

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That isn't a distraction, that's concealment. Nagato isn't looking somewhere else/has his attention diverted when Itachi stabs him. Also, ninjas make a living out of using deception.

Who said he beat Nagato fairly?

you cabt give itachi alone that feat

yungz22

also nagato was lacking mobility he wasnt 100%

Demonic Phoenix

Originally posted by yungz22
you cabt give itachi alone that feat

WTF. Sealing Nagato is solely Itachi's feat. no expression

Beating Nagato isn't. Again, when was it said that Itachi beat Nagato one-on-one?

Originally posted by yungz22
also nagato was lacking mobility he wasnt 100%

We've only seen a mobile Nagato in flashbacks, and he hadn't mastered the Rinnegan yet.

Like I said, you're running out of excuses.

~ With this logic, I can ignore a lot of feats in the series. One of them is mentioned in this very thread; Gai's feat of ripping Madara a new one. He had considerable help from Minato, Kakashi, Lee, and Gaara. So obviously that is not Gai's feat, right?

AuraAngel

To be fair I also don't care for how Itachi beat Nagato. Mostly because it felt rushed and awkward.

Not that the above opinion means a thing.

yungz22

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
WTF. Sealing Nagato is solely Itachi's feat. no expression

Beating Nagato isn't. Again, when was it said that Itachi beat Nagato one-on-one?

We've only seen a mobile Nagato in flashbacks, and he hadn't mastered the Rinnegan yet.

Like I said, you're running out of excuses.

~ With this logic, I can ignore a lot of feats in the series. One of them is mentioned in this very thread; Gai's feat of ripping Madara a new one. He had considerable help from Minato, Kakashi, Lee, and Gaara. So obviously that is not Gai's feat, right?

ummm night guy isnt gais's feat? lol

im not making excuses and astner alluded to itachi beating him btw.