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"Whatever the UN passes here regarding Iran, the Israel will do whatever it takes to defend itself."

http://webtv.un.org/live

It's a bit less pleasing considering the mindset is behind one of the biggest and longest running humanitarian catastrophes in post world war history, but generally of course Israel should and has to defend itself from real threats....the issue is when it is perceived threats and when the course of action taken to protect oneself is actually counterproductive to the goal

See man and I expected a nice topic about trained honeybadgers descending onto the UN. Honeybadgers are vicious little shits.

Click that link, he's still speaking. It's a great speech.

"The UN imposed 20 resolutions on Israel in the past 4 years and only one on Syria, when more people have died in the last 4 years in Syria then the last century between Israel and Palastin."

I can't help feel a bit bad for Israel. They are like the equivalent of the kid who gets picked on in school and when the teachers are informed what is going on they just don't do anything about it and decide to allow it to continue.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
"Whatever the UN passes here regarding Iran, the Israel will do whatever it takes to defend itself."

http://webtv.un.org/live

Did he really refer to Israel as "the Israel"?

Originally posted by Surtur
I can't help feel a bit bad for Israel. They are like the equivalent of the kid who gets picked on in school and when the teachers are informed what is going on they just don't do anything about it and decide to allow it to continue.

The EU forgot about WWII.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The EU forgot about WWII.

Would've been hard for anyone to pick on Israel in WWII though. What with it not existing at the time

Originally posted by jaden101
Would've been hard for anyone to pick on Israel in WWII though. What with it not existing at the time



In God's eyes, Israel has been around for a lot longer than that. And, in the end, God's decree > man's. What's known as Israel today is the land God promised to His people and He has always referred to it as "Israel".

Originally posted by Surtur
I can't help feel a bit bad for Israel. They are like the equivalent of the kid who gets picked on in school and when the teachers are informed what is going on they just don't do anything about it and decide to allow it to continue.
They're the equivalent of that kid that gets picked on and in retaliation kills 25 kids that had nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by jaden101
Would've been hard for anyone to pick on Israel in WWII though. What with it not existing at the time

Israel existed since before Egypt. Get your historical facts straight.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Israel existed since before Egypt. Get your historical facts straight.
It didn't exist in any official capacity during WWII though.

Originally posted by Slay
They're the equivalent of that kid that gets picked on and in retaliation kills 25 kids that had nothing to do with it.

Or...Not even close? THAT is some ignorant TI shit right there, lol.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Or...Not even close? THAT is some ignorant TI shit right there, lol.
You don't feel the level of force used by Israel against the Palestinian people is disproportionate?

Originally posted by Slay
You don't feel the level of force used by Israel against the Palestinian people is disproportionate?

As disproportionate as the amount of Palestinians who kill their own and use women and children as shields, if we want to play this game. And even if it's disproportionate, your comparison is too extreme.

Why Orthodox Jews are Opposed to the Zionist State


damn modern israel just got roasted son

I thought thread said bibi honeyboobooed UN.

-leaves disappointed-

Originally posted by red g jacks
http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/opposition.cfm

damn modern israel just got roasted son

The orthodox community is pretty divided about zionism.

Originally posted by psmith81992
As disproportionate as the amount of Palestinians who kill their own and use women and children as shields, if we want to play this game. And even if it's disproportionate, your comparison is too extreme.

So because I used a hyperbolic comparison to illustrate my stance on a topic you reduce me to nothing but a comparison to a raving lunatic?

Originally posted by Slay
So because I used a hyperbolic comparison to illustrate my stance on a topic you reduce me to nothing but a comparison to a raving lunatic?

You used an extreme (incorrect) comparison and I simply called you out on it, nothing more. You're reading a little more into things now.

Originally posted by psmith81992
You used an extreme (incorrect) comparison and I simply called you out on it, nothing more. You're reading a little more into things now.
You said my post was of TI-level. I'm not reading too much into anything. Whether it's incorrect or not depends on how you value human life, without getting into it any further. That's ok, we can be civil about our differences, no need to start comparing each other to TI.

either way let israel do what they want with iran... as long as they do it themselves and don't expect any more assistance than the billions of dollars or so we give them each year

Originally posted by Slay
You said my post was of TI-level. I'm not reading too much into anything. Whether it's incorrect or not depends on how you value human life, without getting into it any further. That's ok, we can be civil about our differences, no need to start comparing each other to TI.

I compared your post to TI level shit, not you, lol.

Originally posted by psmith81992
I compared your post to TI level shit, not you, lol.
My posts are an extension of me, a statement of my identity. Comparing my posts to TI is effectively comparing me to TI.

Originally posted by Slay
My posts are an extension of me, a statement of my identity. Comparing my posts to TI is effectively comparing me to TI. that's pretty sad son

Originally posted by Slay
My posts are an extension of me, a statement of my identity. Comparing my posts to TI is effectively comparing me to TI.

Ok that's fine if you want to play it that way. Everyone has stupid posts so if they're an extension of your identity, then you made a stupid post, just like everyone has done from time to time. No big deal.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Ok that's fine if you want to play it that way. Everyone has stupid posts so if they're an extension of your identity, then you made a stupid post, just like everyone has done from time to time. No big deal.
That's right, I want it that way.


Seriously though, aside from all the TI horseplay, I think my comparison was quite apt and I stand by my post, whether you think it's stupid or not. I know better by now than to start a serious discussion about a topic like Israel vs. Palestine on the KMC GDF. We'd still be going at it 2 months from now and most likely neither of us will have moved from our initial position, so we'll leave it right here.

Originally posted by red g jacks
that's pretty sad son

I know, what has to world come to when people just start comparing each other to TI?

tbh you don't have the stamina to be TI

Originally posted by red g jacks
tbh you don't have the stamina to be TI
True, that guy has Gatorade for blood. He makes the Duracell bunny look like Bardock42.

Originally posted by red g jacks
either way let israel do what they want with iran... as long as they do it themselves and don't expect any more assistance than the billions of dollars or so we give them each year

When Israel bombs Iran out of existence I'm going to laugh and say they had it coming.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
When Israel bombs Iran out of existence I'm going to laugh and say they had it coming.
You're going to laugh at the death of innocent civilians?

Disgusting.

Yeah but they're all evil so who cares.

Originally posted by Slay
You're going to laugh at the death of innocent civilians?

Disgusting.

The Palestinians have been doing that for decades, not saying it's right or wrong.

Originally posted by Slay
You're going to laugh at the death of innocent civilians?

Disgusting.
Remember the Iranians Dictatorship calls them selves the Republican Guard. So use that when it comes time to laugh.


Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Yeah but they're all evil so who cares.

If Iran had more "GOOD People" in it we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I wouldn't laugh at the deaths of innocents. However, I would remind myself that the USA has in the past purposely bombed innocent people during times of crisis. So I wouldn't judge Israel too harshly if they went after the people who write books about wiping them off the map.

Yeah. "INNOCENT" people that we were either at war with or those that were in areas that supported groups we were at war with.

Originally posted by psmith81992
The Palestinians have been doing that for decades, not saying it's right or wrong.
Some Palestinians have, just like some Israelis have. Your point? I never said the Palestinians are some noble people that do no wrong. Some of the people that die during those bombings are probably real pieces of shit. The majority of them however are innocent people who have nothing to do with Hamas and just want to live a peaceful life. I don't see why you insist on demonising them.

Furthermore, I don't see how some Palestinians laughing at the deaths of innocent Israelis relates to my statement about TI.

Starts with "d" and ends with "istraction", I'm sure you can work it out.

Originally posted by Slay
Some Palestinians have, just like some Israelis have. Your point? I never said the Palestinians are some noble people that do no wrong. Some of the people that die during those bombings are probably real pieces of shit. The majority of them however are innocent people who have nothing to do with Hamas and just want to live a peaceful life. I don't see why you insist on demonising them.

Furthermore, I don't see how some Palestinians laughing at the deaths of innocent Israelis relates to my statement about TI.

Because if we want to compare atrocities man vs. man, the case would be pretty clear. And it doesn't relate to TI I was just pointing something out.


You've mastered the art of rationalization, eh comrade?

Originally posted by Robtard
Starts with "d" and ends with "istraction", I'm sure you can work it out.

That equation leads to another math type problem.
Stars with Rob and ends with Tard!

You think that's a math problem. Exactly where in the rural South are you from?

Its Common Core Math.

Crackaville Alabama, or something like that? Bet I'm close.

Well Common Core Math has been forced on said states by The Elitist Nor****er States like you live in?

Am I close? I bet I am.

My location states "CA"

"CA" Why is that not surprising. Robtard is a Sunbaked Hipster.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Because if we want to compare atrocities man vs. man, the case would be pretty clear.

True, it would be pretty clear that Israel's use of force is disproportionate.


And even if you were correct, which you're not, there's no need to demonise ALL Palestinians. Weren't you accusing me of TI level shit earlier?

Also, well done, you've baited me into doing something I said I wouldn't, I'll stop this discussion now.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
"CA" Why is that not surprising. Robtard is a Sunbaked Hipster.




He also is obsessed with the size of other men's d***s and he's from San Francisco. What does that tell u?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Remember the Iranians Dictatorship calls them selves the Republican Guard. So use that when it comes time to laugh.




If Iran had more "GOOD People" in it we wouldn't be having this discussion.







Yeah, the liberals continue to bash Israel while praising Iran (and the Palestinians). They don't give a shit that Iran hates us just as much as they do Israel. "Iranians are pretty cool people. Much better than Israeli's!".

I never understand why the liberals like Iran so much, but hate Israel. I wanna see half these liberals losers on this board go to Iran and see how their fortune turns out. Matter of fact, why doesn't anyone here actually practice what they preach? Give to the poor, let the Syrians in their homes, go speak about racial equality to black people.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I never understand why the liberals like Iran so much, but hate Israel.



OBviously, because they hate anything associated with the true God.

Originally posted by Star428
OBviously, because they hate anything associated with the true God.

I figured that must be it, but that does not explain why they love the Pope. Or Islam, Islam believes in God as well. But they put Mohammad's teaching above Gods.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I figured that must be it, but that does not explain why they love the Pope.



Perhaps because they realize that he isn't actually on God's side?

The people here that don't believe in God are lost anyways, so I don't think they differentiate between which religions gods.

Islam will kill for the name of Allah, including all the people that sympathize for them.

You assume so much and attribute so many incorrect traits to people, why do you insist on reducing people that disagree with you to one-dimensional charicatures of people? Are you that insecure? It would explain your constant outrage and anger. Do you actually cry while you type these rants?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I never understand why the liberals like Iran so much, but hate Israel.

Oh, I can explain that to you, it's basically an illusion on your part. Liberals see Israel as a potential ally though with a lot of baggage associated with it, particularly the severe human rights violations it perpetrates, and they see Iran as a potential thread which can be controlled and neutralized if we don't escalate the situation through stupidity. So they see Israel and Iran as independent actors with their own pros and cons. People like you and Star on the other hand, partly because of your Religious beliefs, think Israel is fantastic and can do no wrong, and Iran is the devil and the worst country in the world. So the more nuanced approach of many liberals (and many rational Republicans as well, btw) appears to you as loving Iran and hating Israel.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, I can explain that to you, it's basically an illusion on your part. Liberals see Israel as a potential ally though with a lot of baggage associated with it, particularly the severe human rights violations it perpetrates, and they see Iran as a potential thread which can be controlled and neutralized if we don't escalate the situation through stupidity. So they see Israel and Iran as independent actors with their own pros and cons. People like you and Star on the other hand, partly because of your Religious beliefs, think Israel is fantastic and can do no wrong, and Iran is the devil and the worst country in the world. So the more nuanced approach of many liberals (and many rational Republicans as well, btw) appears to you as loving Iran and hating Israel.

So we think Iran is the devil, and Iran calls us the great Satan.

Unlike you I like in reality and when someone says "I'm going to kill you."

They probably are.

/you missed your point.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So we think Iran is the devil, and Iran calls us the great Satan.

Unlike you I like in reality and when someone says "I'm going to kill you."

They probably are.

/you missed your point.

And yet, here you are, 30 years into Iran chanting "Death to America" (which, btw, is not the same as "I'm going to kill you" and Iran hasn't killed you yet....odd how that worked out.

LMAO@Bardock. Clueless as always. Liberals see Israel as a "potential" ally? LMAO. They've been one of our best allies for many years. Nothing "potential" about it. And Obama is practically spitting in their faces because he loves friggin' Islam so much.

Originally posted by Star428
LMAO@Bardock. Clueless as always. Liberals see Israel as a "potential" ally? LMAO. They've been one of our best allies for many years. Nothing "potential" about it.
It's a pretty one sided "ally" relationship, tbh.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, I can explain that to you, it's basically an illusion on your part. Liberals see Israel as a potential ally though with a lot of baggage associated with it, particularly the severe human rights violations it perpetrates, and they see Iran as a potential thread which can be controlled and neutralized if we don't escalate the situation through stupidity. So they see Israel and Iran as independent actors with their own pros and cons. People like you and Star on the other hand, partly because of your Religious beliefs, think Israel is fantastic and can do no wrong, and Iran is the devil and the worst country in the world. So the more nuanced approach of many liberals (and many rational Republicans as well, btw) appears to you as loving Iran and hating Israel.

So Syria gets hit with one UN resoltion in the last 4 years and has killed 250,000 of its own people. Israel has been hit with 20 in the past 4 years and have killed less then that since they became a state.

Facts are fun.

Lets not even talk about Iranian human rights violations.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So Syria gets hit with one UN resoltion in the last 4 years and has killed 250,000 of its own people. Israel has been hit with 20 in the past 4 years and have killed less then that since they became a state.

Facts are fun.

Lets not even talk about Iranian human rights violations.

Are you advocating that the US start airstrikes on Israel? That seems a bit out there...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Are you advocating that the US start airstrikes on Israel? That seems a bit out there...

Not what I said, you stupid troll.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So Syria gets hit with one UN resoltion in the last 4 years and has killed 250,000 of its own people. Israel has been hit with 20 in the past 4 years and have killed less then that since they became a state.

Facts are fun.

Lets not even talk about Iranian human rights violations.




OF course not. That wouldn't suit their agenda. Oh,no, Israel just has to be the bad guys. LMAO.

Bibi said he would negotiate with zero pre conditions, Palestine refuses.

Israels fault right?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Not what I said, you stupid troll.

Well, I for one don't think that the Israel should be bombed, I mean they treat Palestinians in a horrible way, and there should be sanctions...and perhaps when they destroyed a NATO ship there should have been consequences, but I think bombing goes too far.

At any rate, while I don't like Assad, I think the real problem in Syria and surrounding places is ISIS currently, wouldn't you agree?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I for one don't think that the Israel should be bombed, I mean they treat Palestinians in a horrible way, and there should be sanctions...and perhaps when they destroyed a NATO ship there should have been consequences, but I think bombing goes too far.

At any rate, while I don't like Assad, I think the real problem in Syria and surrounding places is ISIS currently, wouldn't you agree?

Reported

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Bibi said he would negotiate with zero pre conditions, Palestine refuses.

Israels fault right?

When did he offer talks without pre-conditions?

Ask Bibi, troll.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/01/world/netanyahu-oslo-accords-israel/index.html

Netanyahu didn't make the claim to me, you did.

He did too, now shut up.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ask Bibi, troll.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/01/world/netanyahu-oslo-accords-israel/index.html

Lol, so you are pretending that a speech made before Netanyahu said this is "Palestine refusing", what disingenuous bullshit.

Thats what he said. Not me. Anyways I'm done listening to you spin the topic.

Here you said it:
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Bibi said he would negotiate with zero pre conditions, Palestine refuses.

Israels fault right?

Right there...not 5 minutes ago

Based on what he said. I was repeating what HE said.

Are you this stupid?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Based on what he said. I was repeating what HE said.

Are you this stupid?

Where did he say that Palestine refused his offer?

I heard him say it live, in his speech to the UN.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I heard him say it live, in his speech to the UN.

But Palestine had no time to refuse since that speech...

"I am prepared to immediately resume direct peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority without any preconditions whatsoever," Netanyahu said in a speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Thursday.

"Unfortunately, President Abbas said yesterday that he is not prepared to do this," he said Thursday. "Well, I hope he changes his mind, because I remain committed to a vision of two states, two peoples in which a demilitarized Palestinian state recognizes the Jewish state."

Run bardock, run.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
"I am prepared to immediately resume direct peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority without any preconditions whatsoever," Netanyahu said in a speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Thursday.

"Unfortunately, President Abbas said yesterday that he is not prepared to do this," he said Thursday. "Well, I hope he changes his mind, because I remain committed to a vision of two states, two peoples in which a demilitarized Palestinian state recognizes the Jewish state."

So again, a speech made before Netanyahu said this is taken as refusal by the Palestinians. Seems Netanyahu is as disingenuous as you are as his mouthpiece.

Keep spinning

"I am prepared to immediately resume direct peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority without any preconditions whatsoever," Netanyahu said in a speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Thursday.

"Unfortunately, President Abbas said yesterday that he is not prepared to do this," he said Thursday. "Well, I hope he changes his mind, because I remain committed to a vision of two states, two peoples in which a demilitarized Palestinian state recognizes the Jewish state."

I know you hate Israel and all being from where you are, but your racism/biggotry is horrendous.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Keep spinning

"I am prepared to immediately resume direct peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority without any preconditions whatsoever," Netanyahu said in a speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Thursday.

"Unfortunately, President Abbas said yesterday that he is not prepared to do this," he said Thursday. "Well, I hope he changes his mind, because I remain committed to a vision of two states, two peoples in which a demilitarized Palestinian state recognizes the Jewish state."

I know you hate Israel and all being from where you are, but your racism/biggotry is horrendous.

Time doesn't run backwards. Abbas saying that Israel has not been complying with agreements BEFORE Netanyahu said that he is now prepared to talk without conditions (a change from his previous stance) is not the same as refusal by the Palestinians to this offer.

Your a biggot and a racist against Israel. You spin the facts, your can't prove anything you just claimed. I already posted my source.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Your a biggot and a racist against Israel. You spin the facts, your can't prove anything you just claimed. I already posted my source.

You can't be a racist against a country. I don't view Israel as a positive actor in world affairs currently, if that's what you mean.

Additionally your source proved my point, you were just lying about it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You can't be a racist against a country. I don't view Israel as a positive actor in world affairs currently, if that's what you mean.

You are anti semitic and a biggot.

It says right in the article what I was talking about, you are being a moron and a biggot.

"I am prepared to immediately resume direct peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority without any preconditions whatsoever," Netanyahu said in a speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Thursday.

"Unfortunately, President Abbas said yesterday that he is not prepared to do this," he said Thursday. "Well, I hope he changes his mind, because I remain committed to a vision of two states, two peoples in which a demilitarized Palestinian state recognizes the Jewish state."

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You are anti semitic and a biggot.

It says right in the article what I was talking about, you are being a moron and a biggot.

"I am prepared to immediately resume direct peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority without any preconditions whatsoever," Netanyahu said in a speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Thursday.

"Unfortunately, President Abbas said yesterday that he is not prepared to do this," he said Thursday. "Well, I hope he changes his mind, because I remain committed to a vision of two states, two peoples in which a demilitarized Palestinian state recognizes the Jewish state."

It says right in the article that Abbas said something BEFORE Netanyahu. Refusals can only come AFTER offers. So you are being disingenous.

Technicality, and nit picking.

You think his attitude is going to change after?

Your a biggot and you proved it already.

Additionally, if we are going for preconditions your article points out something else. While Netanyahu said he would go into it without conditions his words prove differently:

"Well, I hope he changes his mind, because I remain committed to a vision of two states, two peoples in which a demilitarized Palestinian state recognizes the Jewish state."

Requiring the demilitarisation of Palestine is, in fact, a pre-condition.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Technicality, and nit picking.

You think his attitude is going to change after?

Your a biggot and you proved it already.

It's not nit-picking to point out that words have meanings, and using them in ways that don't fit those meanings makes communication impossible.

He isnt changing his mind, before during or after.

You are a texas sharpshooter, and its gotten old.

We know their attitude isn't changing.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He isnt changing his mind, before during or after.

You are a texas sharpshooter, and its gotten old.

We know their attitude isn't changing.

Perhaps he isn't, particularly since it is obviously a ploy by Netanyahu, who has previously not allowed for negotiations without pre-conditions, however, you already pretending that they refused is a sign of your bias. Let them make their mistakes first, don't pretend they have already.

Who keeps shooting the ****ing rockets into Israel?

Are you even awake?

"Oh Israel is guilty of XYZ..."

So tired of your stupid biggotry and nonensense.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Who keeps shooting the ****ing rockets into Israel?

Are you even awake?

"Oh Israel is guilty of XYZ..."

So tired of your stupid biggotry and nonensense.

And who keeps shooting the rockets into Palestine, actually killing people? Who stops humanitarian aid from reaching these Ghettos? Who has refused for years to negotiate without excessive conditions? Who is working against Palestine even getting a voice in the UN at all?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Who keeps shooting the ****ing rockets into Israel?

Are you even awake?

"Oh Israel is guilty of XYZ..."

So tired of your stupid biggotry and nonensense.




OF course he isn't. People like him who hate Israel are good at ignoring context when Israel counterattacks someone. Israel never starts anything. They finish it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And who keeps shooting the rockets into Palestine, actually killing people? Who stops humanitarian aid from reaching these Ghettos? Who has refused for years to negotiate without excessive conditions? Who is working against Palestine even getting a voice in the UN at all?

HE JUST ****ING SAID I WILL NEGOTIATE WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS.

Palestine just got their flag up btw since you missed it.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/palestinian-flag-flies-over-u-n-as-hurricane-brews-in-atlantic/

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
HE JUST ****ING SAID I WILL NEGOTIATE WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS.

Palestine just got their flag up btw since you missed it.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/palestinian-flag-flies-over-u-n-as-hurricane-brews-in-atlantic/



Now watch him keep saying "Israel is a human rights violator". "They did this, this, and that" while continuing to ignore what you said above. His hatred of Israel is palpable. JUst like Robtard's and OV's is. Perhaps he's Hitler reincarnated.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
HE JUST ****ING SAID I WILL NEGOTIATE WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS.

Palestine just got their flag up btw since you missed it.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/palestinian-flag-flies-over-u-n-as-hurricane-brews-in-atlantic/

He said he would, but also in the next sentence stated his preconditions. Mixed message, really.

I said Israel is fighting against Palestine having a voice in the UN. Not that they are completely succeeding.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Reported

Stop spamming bogus reports simply because you are frustrated that you're losing an argument. Bardock said nothing wrong in that post.

In fact, the only thing against the rules in that post is his quote from you, calling him a name.

LOL. He's not losing it. I guess you're another one of those who have a clear hatred of Israel. I bet you think the Iran deal was a good one too, huh? LOL. Anything that increases the chance that Israel will be wiped-off the map you and your pathetic liberal kind are all for. Now go ahead and threaten me with a ban because I told the truth. LMAO.

He sure is. He's resorted to name calling and spamming phony reports to try and kill the discussion because he has nothing of value to say, much like yourself.

I'm not in favor of any nation being wiped off the map. Are you?

Who keeps shooting ketusha rockets into Israel? Who keeps massacring their own citizens? Who keeps using women and children as shields? It's telling that you desperately want to tell one side of the story. Also, I don't know why you keep mentioning a two state solution.

https://electronicintifada.net/content/survey-70-percent-palestinians-support-one-state-solution/6773

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.601938

http://nypost.com/2015/03/20/who-wants-a-two-state-solution-anyway/

Let me know when Palestinians want anything other than Israel's destruction.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Who keeps shooting ketusha rockets into Israel? Who keeps massacring their own citizens? Who keeps using women and children as shields? It's telling that you desperately want to tell one side of the story. Also, I don't know why you keep mentioning a two state solution.

https://electronicintifada.net/content/survey-70-percent-palestinians-support-one-state-solution/6773

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.601938

http://nypost.com/2015/03/20/who-wants-a-two-state-solution-anyway/

Let me know when Palestinians want anything other than Israel's destruction.

The problem is that Israel is the big, US funded, bully. It's always easy to ask the oppressed, weak people to play by the rules, but really, it's understandable why they use whatever they have at their disposal. It doesn't excuse that kind of behaviour, but to pretend that there is equal blame, or worse, like TI and Star, that Palestine is solely to blame is wrong.

OH, so because Israel is being funded by the U.S. it automatically means that they're in the wrong and they have no right to defend themselves or be proactive in defending themselves.


That's typical retarded liberal logic for ya I guess. LOL.

Originally posted by Star428
OH, so because Israel is being funded by the U.S. it automatically means that they're in the wrong and they have no right to defend themselves or be proactive in defending themselves.


That's liberal logic for ya I guess. LOL. No, it means that they have to act like a first world country, rather than a military regime bent on human rights violations.

See, you're calling it a bully because it's bigger, and you're using double standards here. If we're going by who started it, and who has committed more atrocities, the Palestinians win out. You can say Israel needs to be held to a higher standard because they are bigger but to say they deserve more blame than the Palestinians is also wrong.


You REALLY want to compare who has been responsible for more human rights violations?

Originally posted by psmith81992
See, you're calling it a bully because it's bigger, and you're using double standards here. If we're going by who started it, and who has committed more atrocities, the Palestinians win out. You can say Israel needs to be held to a higher standard because they are bigger but to say they deserve more blame than the Palestinians is also wrong.

I suppose we can argue about what happened 60 years ago, the Islamic countries did behave extremely badly then, I totally agree. But if we talk about the Palestinian people, if we talk about the last couple decades, they've been kept down by Israel in extremely poor conditions. If we were in the 60s sure, but at some point, 3 generations down, people have suffered enough for mistakes they may or may not have even done.

Originally posted by psmith81992

You REALLY want to compare who has been responsible for more human rights violations?

Are you saying Palestine has been responsible for more or are you referring to my countries past (only asking cause it's been a theme lately)?

Pound for pound yes. Now i will agree that israel definitely needs to tone it down as being the bigger opponent.

Originally posted by BackFire
Stop spamming bogus reports simply because you are frustrated that you're losing an argument. Bardock said nothing wrong in that post.

In fact, the only thing against the rules in that post is his quote from you, calling him a name.

I reported him once or twice, I don't consider that spamming.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=201369

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You are anti semitic and a biggot.

It says right in the article what I was talking about, you are being a moron and a biggot.

"I am prepared to immediately resume direct peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority without any preconditions whatsoever," Netanyahu said in a speech before the U.N. General Assembly on Thursday.

"Unfortunately, President Abbas said yesterday that he is not prepared to do this," he said Thursday. "Well, I hope he changes his mind, because I remain committed to a vision of two states, two peoples in which a demilitarized Palestinian state recognizes the Jewish state."
Disapproving of Israeli policy is not antisemitism, and it's incredibly poor form to conflate the two.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Disapproving of Israeli policy is not antisemitism, and it's incredibly poor form to conflate the two.
And yet its always RACISIM that is the cause for when people disagree with Prez Oboomba.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
And yet its always RACISIM that is the cause for when people disagree with Prez Oboomba.








....or "sexism" when they disagree with Hillary (LOL).

Originally posted by Flyattractor
And yet its always RACISIM that is the cause for when people disagree with Prez Oboomba.
I don't think I've ever accused anyone here of racism just for disapproving of Obama.

Try a little harder

Marco Rubio makes it crystal clear how he feels about Israel:


https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/651747248192094210


Rubio is a good man.