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It's "Infowars", where LongPig gets most of his news/info from.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's "Infowars", where LongPig gets most of his news/info from.

*noise

Here's the link: http://www.infowars.com/no-whites-allowed-seattle-yoga-class-for-people-of-color-excludes-caucasians/

Some of the comments:

"Anything and everything about balacks should give off a weird vibe. Avoid em."

"It's easy to avoid blacks, get a dog and an alarm system. Thing that gets me is the damn asian invasion. Chinks, gooks, philipinos: can't stand any of them but the japanese. They really are like the Germans of Asia."

"Balacks will eat those yoga mats. Hotsauce all up in hera."

"Boy I bet it really stinks in there, to much melanin means to much smellinin. I bet everyone's purse, wallet, and cell phone gets ripped off as well."

Originally posted by Robtard
It's "Infowars", where LongPig gets most of his news/info from.
Instead of discussing the topic, you try to throw out a red herring to distract from it.
It shows your bias and inability to think out of your little box. Wake up, senior, the real world is out there. Maybe you should experience it?

Originally posted by Robtard
Here's the link: http://www.infowars.com/no-whites-allowed-seattle-yoga-class-for-people-of-color-excludes-caucasians/

Some of the comments:

"Anything and everything about balacks should give off a weird vibe. Avoid em."

"It's easy to avoid blacks, get a dog and an alarm system. Thing that gets me is the damn asian invasion. Chinks, gooks, philipinos: can't stand any of them but the japanese. They really are like the Germans of Asia."

"Balacks will eat those yoga mats. Hotsauce all up in hera."

"Boy I bet it really stinks in there, to much melanin means to much smellinin. I bet everyone's purse, wallet, and cell phone gets ripped off as well." Is there any reason to think that the source is false though?

Ehh. This is a minor case of a small group politely discriminating against white people, but so what? In the literary world, I come across plenty of journals and magazines that expressly say they don't want submissions from white/male/straight/CIS writers and I don't ***** or moan about it because I can submit to dozens of other journals which may not be as friendly to the people that these specific journals that bar me are targeting.

Ideally, things like this should never happen, and I don't support discrimination or "reverse discrimination," but I also don't see it as anything too horrible, nor is it worth getting worked up over.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Is there any reason to think that the source is false though?
Of course not. He's brain washed to the point where if you cite anything that goes against his preconceived notions on race, he always tries to say the source is illegitimate.
He does it everytime. Him and bashar.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Is there any reason to think that the source is false though?

no, there isnt. but lol@OP for copy pasting infowars instead of properly sourcing.

confirmation bias addict confirmed

http://mynorthwest.com/76/2822832/Dori-has-a-problem-with-yoga-for-people-of-color-class

Originally posted by long pig
Instead of discussing the topic, you try to throw out a red herring to distract from it.
It shows your bias and inability to think out of your little box. Wake up, senior, the real world is out there. Maybe you should experience it?

Styletime asked for the source and I posted it. Don't get mad and cry at me because you were too cowardly to include a link, racist-guy.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
no, there isnt. but lol@OP for copy pasting infowars instead of properly sourcing.

confirmation bias addict confirmed

http://mynorthwest.com/76/2822832/Dori-has-a-problem-with-yoga-for-people-of-color-class
Good boy.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Ehh. This is a minor case of a small group politely discriminating against white people, but so what? In the literary world, I come across plenty of journals and magazines that expressly say they don't want submissions from white/male/straight/CIS writers and I don't ***** or moan about it because I can submit to dozens of other journals which may not be as friendly to the people that these specific journals that bar me are targeting.

Ideally, things like this should never happen, and I don't support discrimination or "reverse discrimination," but I also don't see it as anything too horrible, nor is it worth getting worked up over.
Your bias is showing....

Originally posted by long pig
Your bias is showing....
What bias?

All I'm saying is that as a white person I'm not particularly upset by this, and (without exactly condoning it) I understand why they're doing it.

I just did downward dog in here and I am white.

Rob gtfo.

nation-wide white supremacist movement = okay

racist 'no whities allowed' yoga class in granola village, seattle = der takin ar freedumz!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What bias?

All I'm saying is that as a white person I'm not particularly upset by this, and (without exactly condoning it) I understand why they're doing it.


If you arent condemning then you are condoning.

Originally posted by long pig
If you arent condemning then you are condoning.
Please read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/06-atomicdog-020/image003.jpg

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Please read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
If you're not against evilz you are helping evil. No amount of debate jargon will change that.

Muslims are the same way, they don't condem terror, so to me, they might as well be supporting it.

Yet, if a white group did that and not allowed colered people to participate, it would be shut down. Sharpton would have a damn caniption fit.

the kkk can march in the street with police escort and you're making such a bullshit claim.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
the kkk can march in the street with police escort and you're making such a bullshit claim.
But can they own a store and only sell to whites? No.

Anyway, quiet you, adults are talking.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
the kkk can march in the street with police escort and you're making such a bullshit claim.

So can the black panthers, and Sharpton for that matter. They are all racist.

I am in the middle of a good session here, yall are ****ing up my concentration.

Originally posted by long pig
If you're not against evilz you are helping evil. No amount of debate jargon will change that.

Muslims are the same way, they don't condem terror, so to me, they might as well be supporting it.
Your inability to perceive nuance isn't my problem.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
So can the black panthers, and Sharpton for that matter. They are all racist.


point is that this is america and we're free to gather and have ignorant racist circlejerks. you wanna live in pinko-land where thats not allowed, bruh?

Its Friday night and everyone here is still in full whiny ***** mode?

Thats for the morning hughboxes.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I just did downward dog in here and I am white.

Rob gtfo.

You're Greek, you're barely white. Anyhow.

Why all the anger towards me? All I did was post the source because LongPig was too cowardly and embarrassed to show he gets his info from InfoWars and someone did ask for a link.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're Greek, you're barely white.

Why all the anger towards me? All I did was post the source because LongPig was too cowardly and embarrassed to show he gets his info from InfoWars and someone did ask for a link.

If thats me being angry, clearly I was ribbing you and joking.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
point is that this is america and we're free to gather and have ignorant racist circlejerks. you wanna live in pinko-land where thats not allowed, bruh?

Nah, I agree with you. We're all allowed to be racist if we want..as long is it doesn't turn into acts of violence against other races.

Or "no blacks, jews, asians" etc allowed. This class is BS, as it apparently specifically signals out certain people based on their skin color/ethnicity.

Originally posted by long pig
Instead of discussing the topic, you try to throw out a red herring to distract from it.
It shows your bias and inability to think out of your little box. Wake up, senior, the real world is out there. Maybe you should experience it?




HEy Long pig, just start doing the exact same thing they do when they post a link to a biased liberal website.

Originally posted by Star428
HEy Long pig, just start doing the exact same thing they do when they post a link to a biased liberal website.

There is no such thing is a liberal fact based website though.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
There is no such thing is a liberal fact based website though.




OF course not. I said "biased" (which they all are) liberal website. Not "fact based". The mainstream media is liberal so when people start linking to sources like CNN or some other liberal site we can just call it an invalid source like they (liberals) always do when conservatives link something.

Originally posted by Star428
OF course not. I said "biased" (which they all are) liberal website. Not "fact based". The mainstream media is liberal so when people start linking to sources like CNN or some other liberal site whencan just call it an invalid source like they (liberals) always do when conservatives link something.

You missed the joke man

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
nation-wide white supremacist movement = okay

racist 'no whities allowed' yoga class in granola village, seattle = der takin ar freedumz!!!!!!!




It's sad to see how people are unable to see past the hate of idiots. The only people that I see being swayed by such propaganda are those with very little intelligence. Oh shit... there's a lot of those types out there. This naturally shows that there are far more followers than leaders. Shit now there's an idea! I wonder if I could become rich off of all of the dummies out there?

no whites allowed

well there was a huge segregation back in the day

so i guess we whities can't complain that much

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
no whites allowed

well there was a huge segregation back in the day

so i guess we whities can't complain that much

Shut up Aussie and get to the back of the yoga mat.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Shut up Aussie and get to the back of the yoga mat.

mate you seem to be taking your downward dog alittle to seriously

Originally posted by Stoic


It's sad to see how people are unable to see past the hate of idiots. The only people that I see being swayed by such propaganda are those with very little intelligence. Oh shit... there's a lot of those types out there. This naturally shows that there are far more followers than leaders. Shit now there's an idea! I wonder if I could become rich off of all of the dummies out there?
That's a terrible post.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
mate you seem to be taking your downward dog alittle to seriously

No I really just want you at the back of the mat

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Nah, I agree with you. We're all allowed to be racist if we want..as long is it doesn't turn into acts of violence against other races.

that's the one thing we can all agree upon across party lines: the inalienable right to be an ignorant douchebag.

hey, it's a start.

This doesn't exactly bother me, but I am kind of irked by the fact that I know the article was correct when it said people would lose their shit if white people did this.

I was thinking about this issue the other day when I saw a commercial for an online dating site for black people called "black people meet". I had no issue with it either, but I could just imagine a "white people meet" website upsetting people.

Because there is a different context. White people do not needs safe spaces, because they do not get discriminated against for their race. So them desiring a white only space has different connotations than black people desiring a black only space.

The question whether they should be allowed to have a white only space is unrelated. But people would be outraged if it was white's only because it is in essence saying "I don't like black people I don't want to do yoga with them" while the opposite does not necessarily say that but could be "I don't want to deal with discrimination while I do yoga, so I want to do it with people of my race".

So is there some big discrimination going on with yoga in Seattle? Is that why they say they did this, they just couldn't deal with discrimination?

Though whites aren't the only people in this country who discriminate. They seemed to include every race under the sun but whites. That seems less about avoiding discrimination and more just in line with the "I don't want to do yoga with white people".

No but Seattle pretends to be a bastion for progress while pulling nonsense like this. No different than California, honestly.

I don't think it is discrimination specific to yoga. But there's just a lot of racism and discrimination going on generally. Being gawked at or people behaving in weird ways because they feel awkward around black people, etc.

It's understandable if a group doesn't want to deal with that when doing a relaxed activity. Since white people don't face that the same reason doesn't apply.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't think it is discrimination specific to yoga. But there's just a lot of racism and discrimination going on generally. Being gawked at or people behaving in weird ways because they feel awkward around black people, etc.

It's understandable if a group doesn't want to deal with that when doing a relaxed activity. Since white people don't face that the same reason doesn't apply.

But since white people aren't the only people in this country known to discriminate..how does it make sense to include a variety of races in this mix? What you are saying would make more sense if this was a yoga group for a specific race. It's not, it's just not for white people.

Originally posted by Surtur
But since white people aren't the only people in this country known to discriminate..how does it make sense to include a variety of races in this mix? What you are saying would make more sense if this was a yoga group for a specific race. It's not, it's just not for white people.

If these people feel comfortable with different people of color that's good for them. I mean they outright say it's about making POC feel comfortable, no reason to doubt their statement.

But you brought up the thing where if whites did it..it would be seen as them not liking black people. But this group basically says "anyone who isn't white come on down" and that is strictly just about their comfort zone?

Hold on Bardock are you saying it isn't the same level of discrimination or that it isn't discrimination at all?

Originally posted by Surtur
But you brought up the thing where if whites did it..it would be seen as them not liking black people. But this group basically says "anyone who isn't white come on down" and that is strictly just about their comfort zone?

Yes, I mean that's what they say themselves.

So then what if a group said "whites only" and then gave a statement saying they just feel more comfortable doing yoga around members of their own race?

Originally posted by psmith81992
Hold on Bardock are you saying it isn't the same level of discrimination or that it isn't discrimination at all?

Well, it is technically discrimination, it's not the same level or kind of discrimination that a white only class would be however.

Originally posted by Surtur
So then what if a group said "whites only" and then gave a statement saying they just feel more comfortable doing yoga around members of their own race?

Like I said, whites do not face racism (or the same kind of discrimination) so that argument doesn't hold, the only reason to not allow POC is because there is a dislike, and that's why the reaction to it would be different.

But why doesn't it hold? Comfort is about more then just not being discriminated against.

Originally posted by Surtur
But why doesn't it hold? Comfort is about more then just not being discriminated against.

Because the comfort would be based in racism, rather than in a desire for lack of racism.

You are totally right that some racist people would feel more comfortable without black people in their clubs and classes. But their motivations are generally considered distasteful, which is why there would be outrage.

of course it is an equal ethical/moral violation for anyone to pull this act.

but you cant weigh some nutter yoga class as an equal threat to 1000+ white supremacist groups in america. it would be a silly and obtuse argument to make.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/30/the-current-state-of-white-supremacist-groups-in-the-u-s/

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
of course it is an equal ethical/moral violation for anyone to pull this act.

but you cant weigh some nutter yoga class as an equal threat to 1000+ white supremacist groups in america. it would be a silly and obtuse argument to make.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/30/the-current-state-of-white-supremacist-groups-in-the-u-s/

I agree it is bad for anyone to do it, but I don't think anyone was equating this to any of the white supremacist groups.

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't think anyone was equating this to any of the white supremacist groups.

i disagree. i think it supports a false equivalency to single this one hate group out, especially considering OP's basic MO is to force his own skewed world narrative.

Yea nobody was doing that, lol.

keep it up and i'll have no choice but to change my sig

http://i.imgur.com/0jDHVKs.gif

The obsession you are having here despite your delusions, is alarming.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
keep it up and i'll have no choice but to change my sig

http://i.imgur.com/0jDHVKs.gif

That's funny on many levels. Weird question, psmith, what's your middle name?

Psmith is a randomized name that was created years ago. It means nothing.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Psmith is a randomized name that was created years ago. It means nothing.

Then why is (8 + 1) * 9 * 9 - 2 = 719?

Can't explain that.

Wtf lol

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
keep it up and i'll have no choice but to change my sig

http://i.imgur.com/0jDHVKs.gif
LMAO
Originally posted by psmith81992
The obsession you are having here despite your delusions, is alarming.
I'm starting to enjoy you both. It's like Crossed Armed Opposites from Family Guy.

5LiK9i8FXmo

Yay for racist bigots. I bet they think themselves 'enlightened' and 'progressive'.
This is the kind of shit you get when you let Tumblr leak into the real world.

Anyone who calls himself progressive or enlightened is nothing more than an insecure attention whore.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Anyone who calls himself progressive or enlightened is nothing more than an insecure attention whore.
Bardock fancies himself a progressive intellectual. Are you saying he's a big fat, insecure attention whore?

No but i haven't seen him call himself either progressive or enlightened.

Who cares? Its within in their rights to have a colored-only Yoga Class.

I'd also argue its not even racist, because it isn't as if they were like "GET YO CRACKA-ASS OUT DIS YOGA CLASS, HONKY!"

No, they were respectful about it, why harass them for it?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Who cares? Its within in their rights to have a colored-only Yoga Class.

I'd also argue its not even racist, because it isn't as if they were like "GET YO CRACKA-ASS OUT DIS YOGA CLASS, HONKY!"

No, they were respectful about it, why harass them for it?

Just because they're 'nice' about it doesn't make it any less racist.

it's a private business (i'm guessing) so it's mostly whatever to me but why would they even enact such a rule/concept? it makes no sense...

Originally posted by dynamix
it's a private business (i'm guessing) so it's mostly whatever to me but why would they even enact such a rule/concept? it makes no sense...

So was Chick Fila..

Originally posted by psmith81992
So was Chick Fila..

And people can do the same thing to protest this yoga class as they did with Chick-fil-A...not go there anymore and spend their money.

Yeah c-f-a's sponsors should not have been allowed to drop them. Free enterprise is necessary for capitalism to flourish, but not when it makes some people feel emotionally wounded by it.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Just because they're 'nice' about it doesn't make it any less racist.
It's a very low-level example of racism, nothing to compared to the kind of racism that POC face every day.*

If there are any white people getting furious over this it's just a sign that they have an entitlement complex, that they don't want to be barred even from things they probably wouldn't even want to be a part of otherwise.

*To elaborate on this point, there is no balance of power between white people and POC in terms of who gets discriminated against more. POC are clearly on the receiving end of it more often than not, and when someone like LP uses a small incident like this to try to obfuscate that it shows an unwillingness to seriously recognize the real problem.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
of course it is an equal ethical/moral violation for anyone to pull this act.

but you cant weigh some nutter yoga class as an equal threat to 1000+ white supremacist groups in america. it would be a silly and obtuse argument to make.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/30/the-current-state-of-white-supremacist-groups-in-the-u-s/




Washington Post?

"GTFO".

Pretty sure Washington Post is Center Right.

Yeah, how dare you imply one of America's leading newspapers is a credible source? Libtard!!!

Originally posted by Star428
Washington Post?

"GTFO".

https://drawception.com/pub/panels/2013/3-23/19B8gKCCdM-4.png

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's a very low-level example of racism, nothing to compared to the kind of racism that POC face every day.*

If there are any white people getting furious over this it's just a sign that they have an entitlement complex, that they don't want to be barred even from things they probably wouldn't even want to be a part of otherwise.

*To elaborate on this point, there is no balance of power between white people and POC in terms of who gets discriminated against more. POC are clearly on the receiving end of it more often than not, and when someone like LP uses a small incident like this to try to obfuscate that it shows an unwillingness to seriously recognize the real problem.

Racism is racism. If there are people getting pissed over this, it's probably because they don't like racism. It's silly, disingenuous and downright petty to say that people calling out racism are somehow themselves racist and even entitled.

If a weaker person punches a stronger person, we don't ignore it and say, "Pah, it's no biggie, people are just obfuscating, yadda, yadda". We don't ignore a patient with 1st stage cancer and say, "Look, you're just not taking people seriously who have 3rd stage and up cancer, GTFO please."

Any group of whites is considered a white supremacist group by the Washington Post. Are you ****ing kidding me?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Racism is racism. If there are people getting pissed over this, it's probably because they don't like racism. It's silly, disingenuous and downright petty to say that people calling out racism are somehow themselves racist and even entitled.

If a weaker person punches a stronger person, we don't ignore it and say, "Pah, it's no biggie, people are just obfuscating, yadda, yadda". We don't ignore a patient with 1st stage cancer and say, "Look, you're just not taking people seriously who have 3rd stage and up cancer, GTFO please."

Actually, there's different forms of racism, so one is not like the other.

And then there's also the common usage of the term racism, which just means prejudice (or even just discrimination) based on race. Comparing different levels of racism as the same really makes one draw wrong conclusions about situations.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually, there's different forms of racism, so one is not like the other.

And then there's also the common usage of the term racism, which just means prejudice (or even just discrimination) based on race. Comparing different levels of racism as the same really makes one draw wrong conclusions about situations.

Even if I were to accept that there are different forms of racism, a 'lesser' form of racism will virtually inevitably lead to greater forms. It's better to call it out now and nip it in the bud than wait for it to turn into something far more problematic.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Even if I were to accept that there are different forms of racism, a 'lesser' form of racism will virtually inevitably lead to greater forms. It's better to call it out now and nip it in the bud than wait for it to turn into something far more problematic.

I disagree with the premise that a lesser form of racism has to lead to worse, in fact the opposite has been the case over the last century, that worse racisms have been fought against and lessened. Particularly when we talk about sociological racism on the one hand vs. the colloquial use of racism, the latter of which includes things that aren't even necessarily bad, like this case, which some people obviously think is racism, though, for the reasons I have given, isn't the same as what I actually consider racism.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I disagree with the premise that a lesser form of racism has to lead to worse, in fact the opposite has been the case over the last century, that worse racisms have been fought against and lessened. Particularly when we talk about sociological racism on the one hand vs. the colloquial use of racism, the latter of which includes things that aren't even necessarily bad, like this case, which some people obviously think is racism, though, for the reasons I have given, isn't the same as what I actually consider racism.
Sorry but you're a bigot. This is a prime example of your "low expectation" racism.
You don't think they can act civil or follow rules. You even think it's racist to expect them to.
That my little brother, is racism.

Originally posted by long pig
Sorry but you're a bigot. This is a prime example of your "low expectation" racism.
You don't think they can act civil or follow rules. You even think it's racist to expect them to.
That my little brother, is racism.

Who do you mean by "them"?

Your whole assertion is bogus, really, because I explained how the situation are different, and whatever "rules" you are referring to must obviously be judged according to the different situations.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Who do you mean by "them"?

Your whole assertion is bogus, really, because I explained how the situation are different, and whatever "rules" you are referring to must obviously be judged according to the different situations.
Them. Minorities. The unwashed masses.
You're an elitist.
You're sitting in your ivory tower saying the rules don't apply to them because of who they are.

Originally posted by long pig
Them. Minorities. The unwashed masses.
You're an elitist.
You're sitting in your ivory tower saying the rules don't apply to them because of who they are.

No, the same rules apply to everyone. The situations are just different.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, the same rules apply to everyone. The situations are just different.
Morals don't change due to situation. Right is right, wrong is wrong. The end.

Originally posted by long pig
Morals don't change due to situation. Right is right, wrong is wrong. The end.

Yes, but one situation may be immoral and another not...the morals haven't changed, the situation just doesn't apply the same.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, but one situation may be immoral and another not...the morals haven't changed, the situation just doesn't apply the same.
No.

Originally posted by long pig
No.

Okay. Then we are on the same page. They are not racist.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I disagree with the premise that a lesser form of racism has to lead to worse, in fact the opposite has been the case over the last century, that worse racisms have been fought against and lessened. Particularly when we talk about sociological racism on the one hand vs. the colloquial use of racism, the latter of which includes things that aren't even necessarily bad, like this case, which some people obviously think is racism, though, for the reasons I have given, isn't the same as what I actually consider racism.

Racism was lessened not because it was fought with more racism. MLK did not exclude whites from his rallies.

Whether you're employing racism or sexism, or any other form of discrimination to fight against itself, you'll eventually get shit results. When sexism was employed in a fight against sexism, it led to anti-male domestic violence laws/procedures, guilty-until-proven-innocent procedures in some college and university campuses when dealing with rape cases, etc. Racism and sexism has landed deplorable people like Bahar Mustafa in actual positions of power where they then happily proceeded to spread their bigotry.

I'll repeat myself again: treat the cancer while it's still in stage one. You'll thank yourself for it later.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Racism was lessened not because it was fought with more racism. MLK did not exclude whites from his rallies.

Whether you're employing racism or sexism, or any other form of discrimination to fight against itself, you'll eventually get shit results. When sexism was employed in a fight against sexism, it led to anti-male domestic violence laws/procedures, guilty-until-proven-innocent procedures in some college and university campuses when dealing with rape cases, etc. Racism and sexism has landed deplorable people like Bahar Mustafa in actual positions of power where they then happily proceeded to spread their bigotry.

I'll repeat myself again: treat the cancer while it's still in stage one. You'll thank yourself for it later.
You may need to speak up, bardock can't hear you so high up in his ivory tower.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/06-atomicdog-020/image003.jpg

how can anyone discriminate against that

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
how can anyone discriminate against that
Her elbows are gross.

Making silly excuses like a self-hating closeted homosexual man.

"She's 3lbs too heavy for me!"
"One of her toes is a millimeter longer than the other!"
"I don't like the symmetry of her dimples!"

You've busted yourself, closetboy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Making silly excuses like a self-hating closeted homosexual man.

"She's 3lbs too heavy for me!"
"One of her toes is a millimeter longer than the other!"
"I don't like the symmetry of her dimples!"

You've busted yourself, closetboy.
Closeted?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Because there is a different context. White people do not needs safe spaces, because they do not get discriminated against for their race. So them desiring a white only space has different connotations than black people desiring a black only space.

The question whether they should be allowed to have a white only space is unrelated. But people would be outraged if it was white's only because it is in essence saying "I don't like black people I don't want to do yoga with them" while the opposite does not necessarily say that but could be "I don't want to deal with discrimination while I do yoga, so I want to do it with people of my race". If this class was a "black only", for example, space you might be correct.

It specifically forbids only white people from attending. Every other race, which could also discriminate against them, are allowed.

Originally posted by NemeBro
If this class was a "black only", for example, space you might be correct.

It specifically forbids only white people from attending. Every other race, which could also discriminate against them, are allowed.
I also have to wonder where they draw the line on "white."

I know some pretty white Cubans, for instance, and I have a friend who's half Lebanese but looks white AF.

To argue that they're not being racist is ridiculous. Their rules fit the very definition of racial discrimination..

Its only racist when a white republican does it.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I also have to wonder where they draw the line on "white."

I know some pretty white Cubans, for instance, and I have a friend who's half Lebanese but looks white AF.
Anglo saxons are the only true whites.

Originally posted by long pig
Anglo saxons are the only true whites.
What about Nordics, Germans, and Baltics?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What about Nordics, Germans, and Baltics?
Didn't they branch off from the algo/sax/celt people?

It looks like they were all german tribes who moved off. But they aren't different races.
Unlike the Spaniards and eyetalians.

Originally posted by long pig
Didn't they branch off from the algo/sax/celt people?
No lol.

Let me walk you through the history of Britain. First there came the Brythonic Celts. Then, there was a brief period of Roman occupation where some Italian/various European blood got mixed in. Then the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes, Germanic peoples from present day North Germany and Denmark, invaded. And finally there's the Normans, Scandinavian by descent, who invaded in 1066.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No lol.

Let me walk you through the history of Britain. First there came the Brythonic Celts. Then, there was a brief period of Roman occupation where some Italian/various European blood got mixed in. Then the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes, Germanic peoples from present day North Germany and Denmark, invaded. And finally there's the Normans, Scandinavian by descent, who invaded in 1066.
Well, whatever. They count.

Just no swarthy people.

Originally posted by NemeBro
If this class was a "black only", for example, space you might be correct.

It specifically forbids only white people from attending. Every other race, which could also discriminate against them, are allowed.

Nah, it still applies the same. Safe spaces can be for multiple races. White people do not experience racism, so they are often uninformed and/or unintentionally act in a way that is hurtful, it is understandable why someone would want a safe space from that, and the reasons why a KKK meeting is whites only are completely different. Even if it was blacks only there could still be someone who is anti-black (self hating or internalised or whatever), it's about decreasing the chance, not eliminating it completely, cause that's impossible.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, it still applies the same. Safe spaces can be for multiple races. White people do not experience racism, so they are often uninformed and/or unintentionally act in a way that is hurtful, it is understandable why someone would want a safe space from that, and the reasons why a KKK meeting is whites only are completely different. Even if it was blacks only there could still be someone who is anti-black (self hating or internalised or whatever), it's about decreasing the chance, not eliminating it completely, cause that's impossible.
White people absolutely experience racism. Are you insane?

Bardock, you're a smart guy....you have to know that is insanity. Are you in America?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, it still applies the same. Safe spaces can be for multiple races. White people do not experience racism, so they are often uninformed and/or unintentionally act in a way that is hurtful, it is understandable why someone would want a safe space from that, and the reasons why a KKK meeting is whites only are completely different. Even if it was blacks only there could still be someone who is anti-black (self hating or internalised or whatever), it's about decreasing the chance, not eliminating it completely, cause that's impossible.

an anti-white yoga class has all the impact and threat of a popcorn fart when weighed against 1000+ white supremacist groups. fair enough.

but you can't negate the definition of 'racism' because one is severe and widespread, while the other is ineffectual. it's a 'no true scotsman' fallacy. give it up, bruh.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
an anti-white yoga class has all the impact and threat of a popcorn fart when weighed against 1000+ white supremacist groups. fair enough.

but you can't negate the definition of 'racism' because one is severe and widespread, while the other is ineffectual. it's a 'no true scotsman' fallacy. give it up, bruh.

It doesn't fit every definition of racism. It faces one common one that's equivalent to "discrimination based on race", but it misses the point to not specify why the acts are different.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It doesn't fit every definition of racism. It faces one common one that's equivalent to "discrimination based on race", but it misses the point to not specify why the acts are different.

yes i agree, and have agreed, but you are severely overstepping with the 'no true racism' bit.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
yes i agree, and have agreed, but you are severely overstepping with the 'no true racism' bit.

I have, from the start, specified that it fits a common definition of racism. It doesn't fit the definition of racism that I generally use however. Since we are dealing with two different definitions of the word "racism" we have to specify which we mean, particularly because the trend in this thread has been to pretend that the "racism" of this yoga group is the same as the racism of white groups (say for example a whites-only country club...)

Here we go. Bardock is playing on the recent definition variance of "racism" that was put forth by special interest groups. Since "race" doesn't exist, its a social construct can only apply against minorities who are oppressed and only the majority in power can be it?

Basically, in America, only whites can be racist by the new definition.

But, in reality, blacks and mexicans(like robtard) are almost always racist.

Not only Whites people can be racist, but you can't be racist (by that definition) against White people.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not only Whites people can be racist, but you can't be racist (by that definition) against White people.
Hehehe.
I imagine you scrape your ideology from off the crotch of used panties worn by fat lesbian feminists.

Funny how people call Carson a racist, but calling him a coon is ok by the left.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny how people call Carson a racist, but calling him a coon is ok by the left.
My older black friends actually refer to themselves as coons.

"I'm an old coon, I ain't gotta hear that bullmess!"

Then again, they are super racist lol.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I have, from the start, specified that it fits a common definition of racism. It doesn't fit the definition of racism that I generally use however.

well there's your problem right there.

you are referring to institutionalized racism vs. racism, so it's up to you to specify, instead of it being up to everyone else to drop definition of the word 'racism'.

white americans never have to deal with institutionalized racism -true
white americans never have to deal with racism -horseshit.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
well there's your problem right there.

you are referring to institutionalized racism vs. racism, so it's up to you to specify, instead of it being up to everyone else to drop definition of the word 'racism'.

white americans never have to deal with institutionalized racism -true
white americans never have to deal with racism -horseshit.
You don't get it, in reality you are correct....but by definition, a definition changed in the 80's by special interest groups, its impossible to be racist against whites.

Now, if you're asking "can whites be hated, killed, raped, fired, not hired, not enrolled in a school etc simply because they are white?" the answer is yes.....its pretty much an everyday occurrence.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
well there's your problem right there.

you are referring to institutionalized racism vs. racism, so it's up to you to specify, instead of it being up to everyone else to drop definition of the word 'racism'.

white americans never have to deal with institutionalized racism -true
white americans never have to deal with racism -horseshit.

Yes, I know it is up to me, hence why I specified it like 3 or 4 times in this thread. I made a mistake in wording initially, but I have elaborated on it since.

White men, who are a minority, do in fact have to deal with institutionalized bigotry.

but you really didnt. yes you acknowledge the difference but fail to then term it correctly. from now on just say 'institutionalized racism' and we'll won't have these misunderstandings.

Originally posted by long pig
White men, who are a minority, do in fact have to deal with institutionalized bigotry.
many sure whine and pretend, as if they do. that doesnt make your statement any less false.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, it still applies the same. Safe spaces can be for multiple races. White people do not experience racism, so they are often uninformed and/or unintentionally act in a way that is hurtful, it is understandable why someone would want a safe space from that, and the reasons why a KKK meeting is whites only are completely different. Even if it was blacks only there could still be someone who is anti-black (self hating or internalised or whatever), it's about decreasing the chance, not eliminating it completely, cause that's impossible.

Are you for real? It's like racist prior restraint against whites, then? Instead of a bigoted "No-Whites" policy, how about they adopt a no-racist, no-ignorant-dipshit policy? Seems to me like that would be a lot less problematic and send a much better message.

"Safe Space" to me is a bit of an icky term. It can mean anything from an actual safe place to an echochamber where bigotry isn't judged or called out.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
but you really didnt. yes you acknowledge the difference but fail to then term it correctly. from now on just say 'institutionalized racism' and we'll won't have these misunderstandings.


many sure whine and pretend, as if they do. that doesnt make your statement any less false.

I prefer to use the term racism for institutionalised racism, and the term "discrimination/prejudice because of race" for "discrimination/prejudice because of race".

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
but you really didnt. yes you acknowledge the difference but fail to then term it correctly. from now on just say 'institutionalized racism' and we'll won't have these misunderstandings.


many sure whine and pretend, as if they do. that doesnt make your statement any less false.
White men are selectively, by law, intentionally passed over for jobs and college simply because of their race and gender.

White men, a minority in america, are singled out for racially motivated violence more than anyone else. These are facts.

Yet, they as a minority still run shit like bosses!

Originally posted by Bardock42
I prefer to use the term racism for institutionalised racism, and the term "discrimination/prejudice because of race" for "discrimination/prejudice because of race".

ok but that's just you trying to alter language for your own preference, which is just silly and pointless.

so i guess it's all down to whether you want your statements to feel right to you or actually be correct.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I prefer to use the term racism for institutionalised racism, and the term "discrimination/prejudice because of race" for "discrimination/prejudice because of race".
Technically, the man is correct.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
ok but that's just you trying to alter language for your own preference, which is just silly and pointless.

so i guess it's all down to whether you want your statements to feel right to you or actually be correct.

I disagree actually. I both think that the way racism is casually used is a misunderstanding of what racism is and it is very pointful to explain what racism should actually mean, because the watered down definition is what makes idiots like long pig think that excluding white people from your yoga class is the same as black people not being allowed to use the same fountain as white people.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I disagree actually. I both think that the way racism is casually used is a misunderstanding of what racism is and it is very pointful to explain what racism should actually mean, because the watered down definition is what makes idiots like long pig think that excluding white people from your yoga class is the same as black people not being allowed to use the same fountain as white people.

i blame you as well. when you do no-true-scottsmen, you leave the door open for longpig to follow suit and assert his own special definitions onto the topic.

what you call 'watered down' is just the actual definition of the word. if you want to specify a nuanced definition, then it is up you to use the correct terms and to be consistent about that.

Well, we obviously disagree on this, I don't see a way that either of us will change their minds on this right now...so I guess we might drop it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I disagree actually. I both think that the way racism is casually used is a misunderstanding of what racism is and it is very pointful to explain what racism should actually mean, because the watered down definition is what makes idiots like long pig think that excluding white people from your yoga class is the same as black people not being allowed to use the same fountain as white people.
The difference between our ideas on race is you see minorities as helpless victims. I do not.

To me, that's the worst form of racism. The belief others are inferior, that they need protection, that laws and consequences shouldn't apply to them....that excuses should be made for them etc.

Its sad because a hateful racist always knows he's wrong, he knows deep down were equal, but your kind of racism actually thinks he's helping...and it probably comes from a good place...which means you'll never be rehabilitated.

no, you're actually just wrong on this. unless you define "opinion" in the same way that TI defines it.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
no, you're actually just wrong on this. unless you define "opinion" in the same way that TI defines it.

Yes, I also think that you are wrong. But why not just get 5 or 6 posts of "you're wrong" out of your system and we can move on?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, I also think that you are wrong. But why not just get 5 or 6 posts of "you're wrong" out of your system and we can move on?

i'll drop it if you stop bastardizing the english language as a presupposition for discussing the topic.

Originally posted by long pig
The difference between our ideas on race is you see minorities as helpless victims. I do not.

To me, that's the worst form of racism. The belief others are inferior, that they need protection, that laws and consequences shouldn't apply to them....that excuses should be made for them etc.

Its sad because a hateful racist always knows he's wrong, he knows deep down were equal, but your kind of racism actually thinks he's helping...and it probably comes from a good place...which means you'll never be rehabilitated.

I have heard that accusation before, but realising that certain groups have a shittier deal in society does not mean they are less capable. If we'd assume that there was an equal playing field then your accusation would be correct, however there isn't an equal playing field, minorities are disadvantaged by the system, and even if they are more capable than someone privileged their odds of success is reduced.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I have heard that accusation before, but realising that certain groups have a shittier deal in society does not mean they are less capable. If we'd assume that there was an equal playing field then your accusation would be correct, however there isn't an equal playing field, minorities are disadvantaged by the system, and even if they are more capable than someone privileged their odds of success is reduced.
What system? What disadvantage are they facing that others aren't or didn't face? Have you take into account their own actions may have caused their current situation?

Do you mean as a whole, as in generalizing experiences of entire groups...which is against logic.

What can a minority person be forced to deal with that a white person can't?

this offends me... as a capitalist.

White people LOVE yoga, it's definitely in the top 5 of things they've appropriated from other cultures. Banning white people from your yoga studio? do you hate money? Why not open up a gold jewelry store and say "No Persians Allowed". Or how about a lower back tattoo shop and say "No strippers allowed".

Originally posted by marwash22
this offends me... as a capitalist.

White people LOVE yoga, it's definitely in the top 5 of things they've appropriated from other cultures. Banning white people from your yoga studio? do you hate money? Why not open up a gold jewelry store and say "No Persians Allowed". Or how about a lower back tattoo shop and say "No strippers allowed".
Yoga is lazy peoples gymnastics.

it's amazing for flexibility tho. my last gf was into it.

Originally posted by marwash22
it's amazing for flexibility tho. my last gf was into it.
Pics?