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High end showings for both. No bfring in this match.

CIP, CIS, PIS, all of it is off. Both contestants is fighting with everything they have at their disposal. This is YOUR controlling both characters abilities. Nothing but high showings here (you can use average showings as well).

Who wins?

Originally posted by carver9
Nothing but high showings here (you can use average showings as well). Carver logic in a nutshell.

Judging from that 'durability' thread,Thor has higher 'highs' than doomsday does

sly

I wonder if abhi will show?

Why?

because your adoring fans miss you.

HP DD lowest showing is steamrolling through anything thrown at him till Entropy.

I go with HP DD, 10/10.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
HP DD lowest showing is steamrolling through anything thrown at him till Entropy.

I go with HP DD, 10/10.



That is something that basically Marvelites don't understand. To stop HP DD you basically have to ultimate nullified him.

Carver basically just took away the only way Thor could hope to survive this when he said "No BFR."

Poor Thor.

If we are using only the Highest of Highs then Thor wins...

Soul Suck and its lights out for Doomsday...

Peak God Blast and its lights out for Doomsday...

Peak Hammer strike (which punched a hole in Exitars armor) or Thors Death Blow against the Midgard Serpent and its lights out for Doomsday...


All of that said...

I fully concede that on average, HP Doomsday runs right though Thor and beats him savagely...

I don't think any one would put average thor in the same ball park as doomsday

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
HP DD lowest showing is steamrolling through anything thrown at him till Entropy.

I go with HP DD, 10/10.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El


That is something that basically Marvelites don't understand. To stop HP DD you basically have to ultimate nullified him.
Originally posted by Star428
Carver basically just took away the only way Thor could hope to survive this when he said "No BFR."

Poor Thor.
What level character can beat HP Doomsday?

Another of thor's high end feats is hurting chaos king,and eating the god bomb

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
If we are using only the Highest of Highs then Thor wins...

Soul Suck and its lights out for Doomsday...

Peak God Blast and its lights out for Doomsday...

Peak Hammer strike (which punched a hole in Exitars armor) or Thors Death Blow against the Midgard Serpent and its lights out for Doomsday...


All of that said...

I fully concede that on average, HP Doomsday runs right though Thor and beats him savagely... DD doesn't have a soul. But Thor won't get a chance to pull it off since DD is fast as flash (average flash).

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What level character can beat HP Doomsday? only someone who can bfr him before he hits them or someone who can one shot him. A low end abstract maybe.

Originally posted by h1a8
only someone who can bfr him before he hits them or someone who can one shot him. A low end abstract maybe.
What low end abstract?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What low end abstract? idk, just guessing. We know Imperiex can. No one I know has power on that level except low end abstracts. Lord chaos maybe? I don't know their feats. But if you don't one shot DD then he will heal up and become more resistant.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What low end abstract?
Superman with a motherbox

Originally posted by h1a8

Lord chaos maybe?
That's not a low-end cat good friend.

How bout Kronos?

Originally posted by h1a8
idk, just guessing. We know Imperiex can. No one I know has power on that level except low end abstracts. Lord chaos maybe? I don't know their feats. But if you don't one shot DD then he will heal up and become more resistant.
So it's safe to say you believe that HP Doomsday is abstract level?

Originally posted by "Id"
Superman with a motherbox


Hush... Keep you trollish comments to yourself.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What level character can beat HP Doomsday?

Something above of an Oan Guardian, Waveryders, Darkseid and an amped Superman with a motherbox, somewhere along Imperex Prime shooting entrophy. Enough entropy will do it

What ever will be the Marvel equivalent for that.

Entropy is basically DC's version of nullification. It's just a dues ex was of killing anything(for the most part.)

Sans that and/or BFR, I'd say a higher-end Skyfather could likely incapacitate H/P Doomsday.

What about anti-matter?

I think you guys are going overboard with what is necessary to beat HP Doomsday...

I see no reason why a powerfuil reality warper like Proteus or a weaker version of Owen (Dark Avengers Owen to be exact) couldnt beat him...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I think you guys are going overboard with what is necessary to beat HP Doomsday...

I see no reason why a powerfuil reality warper like Proteus or a weaker version of Owen (Dark Avengers Owen to be exact) couldnt beat him...

Owen would destroy him and is there some type of proof that Doomsday is above physical strength? Someone pounding on him.

Originally posted by carver9
Someone pounding on him.

This made me lol

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So it's safe to say you believe that HP Doomsday is abstract level?


No. He lacks versatility. He can't fly, has no energy projection or estoric abilities. Also, Less than low abstracts can damage him but they can't one shot him. If you don't one shot DD he heals then evolves greater resistance if not immunity. If you can't beat DD in the first moment then you can never beat him.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I think you guys are going overboard with what is necessary to beat HP Doomsday...

I see no reason why a powerfuil reality warper like Proteus or a weaker version of Owen (Dark Avengers Owen to be exact) couldnt beat him... Why can Owen beat him? I'm not sure if that Owen can tear apart adamantium.

Here's a feat by DD.
DS instant vaporized a missile at half power. This missile was so durable that Superman, with his entire might, couldn't even put a scratch on. DD tanked more than double the power it took to vaporized such missiles. Now vaporizing something versus just damaging is a difference of many magnitudes.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
This made me lol

Really? So what came to mind?

Originally posted by h1a8
Why can Owen beat him? I'm not sure if that Owen can tear apart adamantium.

Here's a feat by DD.
DS instant vaporized a missile at half power. This missile was so durable that Superman, with his entire might, couldn't even put a scratch on. DD tanked more than double the power it took to vaporized such missiles. Now vaporizing something versus just damaging is a difference of many magnitudes.

Owen once destroyed Thors hammer, Caps shield, Surfers board, and Tony's armor...all at the same time.

Owen would rip through Doomsday like a hot knife through butter:

So once again, some of you here are giving HP Doomsday way too much credit...

He's at best High Trans; theres several tiers of power between him and Abstract...

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
What about anti-matter? Anti-Matter energy has been resisted/tanked by at least 2 different characters(Superboy Prime and Flash.) Because of that, I'd probably consider Entropy the more powerful force--it destroys all.

Originally posted by Galan007
Anti-Matter energy has been resisted/tanked by at least 2 different characters(Superboy Prime and Flash.) Because of that, I'd probably consider Entropy the more powerful force--it destroys all. Id argue Prime is more durable and I'm not sure the Flash one, but it may be due to his control of his molecules.

Originally posted by Stoic
Really? So what came to mind?

Doomsday getting ass raped

What is it with Americans and male rape?

Oh, Sin is a special case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWFCin1olfw

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Owen once destroyed Thors hammer, Caps shield, Surfers board, and Tony's armor...all at the same time.

Owen would rip through Doomsday like a hot knife through butter:

No response to this h1a8?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No response to this h1a8?
Wolverine almost killed owen with a claw strike too.

Guess who else has claws?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wolverine almost killed owen with a claw strike too.

Guess who else has claws?

They're longer, and he's faster, too.

Plus, they travel at higher velocities.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wolverine almost killed owen with a claw strike too.

Guess who else has claws?

Wolvie sneaked up on him...

Doomsday doesnt have the advantage of stealth here; Owen ends him with a single thought...

So Doomsday is invincible now?

Originally posted by bbrem123
So Doomsday is invincible now?

According to the House of El...

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Id argue Prime is more durable and I'm not sure the Flash one, but it may be due to his control of his molecules. Prime is definitely haxx, but he still survived pure anti-matter energy:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283241_30.jpg


As did Flash:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283252_The_Flash_1987-2009_150-014.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283254_The_Flash_1987-2009_150-015.jpg


As did Swamp Thing's essence:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283294_Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_010-018.jpg


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Conversely, Entropy destroys absolutely everything it touches.

It erases all time/space:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283320_ZHpt001_pg011.jpg


It erases all energy:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283322_ZHpt001_pg013.jpg


Even abstract entities, like Death, cease to exist on even a conceptual level when Entropy strikes them:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283244_The_Flash_1987-2009_141-014.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283245_The_Flash_1987-2009_141-015.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283250_The_Flash_1987-2009_141-016.jpg


Hence Waverider's statement: "It is the only time... The only place known where life cannot possibly exist.":
http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/24283396_Superman-Doomsday_-_Hunter-Prey_003-044.jpg

Why didn't Superman throw him in the sun? That would've resolved everything.

Yes, throw a creature who is nourished by solar energy into the sun:
http://i.imgur.com/1tvaPn0.png

...That'll kill it!!! durpalm

Originally posted by carver9
Why didn't Superman throw him in the sun? That would've resolved everything. I feel bad for you durpalm

That's my new second favorite post now. Can't beat the person who told me the super saints (saints row 4) could beat superman by setting him on fire...

Who is Super Saint?

DS when he dresses up as Superman for you.

Originally posted by carver9
Who is Super Saint?

When abhi and I do a fusion dance.....

Lol

I literally posted it (saints row 4 or lV)

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Wolvie sneaked up on him...

Doomsday doesnt have the advantage of stealth here; Owen ends him with a single thought...




LOL. Doomsday snuck up on Darkeid (or his avatar, whichever u believe he was). Doomsday sneaking up on people is certainly not something that's impossibe.

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. Doomsday snuck up on Darkeid (or his avatar, whichever u believe he was). Doomsday sneaking up on people is certainly not something that's impossibe.

In a forum fight they'll start facing each other at a distance...

Doomsday won't have a prayer...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Owen ends him with a single thought... Owen isn't in this thread, chum.

Thor and Silver Surfer simply uses time powers to stop time around DD, end of the fight, just like Waverider easily could.

Scans are self evident, except that DD did not adapt to time powers, since Waverider has not used time powers, he simply copied and overloaded Waverider with his own energy, but not chronal energy, because the attack involved only nervous system energy-that's a huge difference-and that's what DD copied and overloaded Waverider-the scans speak for themselves, not to mention, unlike Radiant, DD could not destroy Waverider-so please stop posting lies Waverider, DD and those scans.

DD did not adapt to Waverider's chronal energies, but simply overloaded Waverider when Waverider tried to shut down DD's nervous system, and never used any of time powers that Waverider possesses.

The scans actually proved that Waverider didn't even try to use time powers on DD in the first place. Waverider simply tried to shut down DD's nervous system, that's all.

Waverider, could after he reformed after first being dispersed, use time powers to stop time around DD-and than DD would not be able to do anything, since he would not be able to move and react in the first place-these are not lies, and grievances, these are facts that everyone who are DD's fanatics simply ignore all the time.

The same trick with time powers Thor and Silver Surfer could and would do it-if they wanted to.

Originally posted by Galan007
Owen isn't in this thread, chum.

Read back a bit if you are interested in knowing how Owen/Doomsday became a topic of conversation...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What level character can beat HP Doomsday?

Waverider and anyone else with abilities of absolute control and manipulation of time.

Waverider is composed almost entirely of chronal energy. When he made contact with Doomsday a second time, this was the result:
http://i.imgur.com/NEq4pdQ.png

As you can see, he simply made a blanket statement as to what was going on: "Can't control -- my ENERGIES!"

So according to Waverider himself: he momentarily lost control of his energies across the board. That said, I think it is perfectly logical to assume that Doomsday had evolved beyond the chronal energies that comprise Waverider's being... Otherwise DD wouldn't have been able to entirely cancel him out. /shrug

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What level character can beat HP Doomsday?

@Galan

The above sparked the Owen discussion...

Some here were coming up with the outrageous conclusions that nothing less than an abstract could beat HP Doomsday...


I set them straight by pointing out that a sufficiently powerful reality warper or matter/energy manipulator could get the job done...

I proposed that a weaker version of Owen; Dark Avengers Owen to be exact would destroy Doomsday...

h1a8 attempted a counter argument and I silenced him immediately...others have attempted to argue pro Doomsday but really have no reasonable counter.

Anyway, my conclusion is a sufficiently powerful Trans Tier or Low Skyfather with the right power set can defeat him...

Cool beans. I was just giving you a hard time.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool beans. I was just giving you a hard time.

Np!
:-)

Pixie.

Originally posted by Galan007
Waverider is composed almost entirely of chronal energy. When he made contact with Doomsday a second time, this was the result:
http://i.imgur.com/NEq4pdQ.png

As you can see, he simply made a blanket statement as to what was going on: "Can't control -- my ENERGIES!"

So according to Waverider himself: he momentarily lost control of his energies across the board. That said, I think it is perfectly logical to assume that Doomsday had evolved beyond the chronal energies that comprise Waverider's being... Otherwise DD wouldn't have been able to entirely cancel him out. /shrug

One more thing, DD did not cancel Waverider out at all, otherwise he would dead/destroyed just like Radiant was, that alone proves that H/P DD did not adapt to Waverider's chronal energies-he simply sent energies back to Waverider but it did not destroy him or kill him, since Waverider ultimately fully reformed.
Plus, like I said Waverider did not really want to be part of the battle that nervous system attack was truly nothing, since obviously Waverider did not want to use his time control/manipulation abilities, if here really wanted to stop DD he would simply manipulate time around H/P DD and stop it and than transport it somewhere else-at the end of time.

Truth is no-one can beat HP Doomsday more than once using any method.

Originally posted by Ol' Shellhead
Truth is no-one can beat HP Doomsday more than once using any method.

I dont think that is true...

Do you real think an Infinity Gauntlet weilder or a Cube Being cant kill him the same way more than once?

Too bad Thor is neither of those things.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Owen once destroyed Thors hammer, Caps shield, Surfers board, and Tony's armor...all at the same time.

Owen would rip through Doomsday like a hot knife through butter: I'm one step ahead of you. I already knew these feats. If you reread my post you would see that it says "this Owen". Prove that the weakened Owen can do those things. The Owen you feated was at least a low abstract in power as my point suggests.

Also, I said that DD is beatable is you one shot him. But you need low end abstract power to do that.

High end Thor incinerates him for a forum win.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
High end Thor incinerates him for a forum win.


How?

Originally posted by abhilegend


How?
Amped hammer shots, lightning, godblast.. Take your pick.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Amped hammer shots, lightning, godblast.. Take your pick.
Only Godblast has a chance of doing anything. Even then it's a stun at best seeing how pre DOS Doomsday was only koed by a Guardian suicide.

Hammer shots? Lightning? Please.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Only Godblast has a chance of doing anything. Even then it's a stun at best seeing how pre DOS Doomsday was only koed by a Guardian suicide.

Hammer shots? Lightning? Please.
High End Thor can.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
High End Thor can. No! If the OE couldn't do anything then nothing Thor has can.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
High End Thor can.
Nope. A Guardian suicide atomized SBP. Not even Monarch explosion could do that.

Doomsday was only koed by that in a far weaker version.

It's like asking if a high end Superman can beat Kurse.

Based on OP, he will hurt DD more than DD will hurt him.

Pixie can still teleport him away. He never adapted to the teleport tubes on the Moon.

Because of OP, Doomy would have to show that he has the power to even hurt high end Thor.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm one step ahead of you. I already knew these feats. If you reread my post you would see that it says "this Owen". Prove that the weakened Owen can do those things. The Owen you feated was at least a low abstract in power as my point suggests.

Also, I said that DD is beatable is you one shot him. But you need low end abstract power to do that.

No your not; you are attempting to save face...

You threw that missile part out there like it was beyond Owens power...

And if you read Dark Avengers, you'd know that the range of his matter/energy manipulation was the main difference between this version and other versions...

And no, Owen that I feated was not abstract level...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No your not; you are attempting to save face...

You threw that missile part out there like it was beyond Owens power...

And if you read Dark Avengers, you'd know that the range of his matter/energy manipulation was the main difference between this version and other versions... you are not very smart. Reread my original post. You would see how I clarified WHICH Owen. If dark avengers Owen can dismantle Mjolnir, caps shield, etc into molecules then he is low abstract in power. No one of lower level can do that.

Originally posted by h1a8
you are not very smart. Reread my original post. You would see how I clarified WHICH Owen. If dark avengers Owen can dismantle Mjolnir, caps shield, etc into molecules then he is low abstract in power. No one of lower level can do that.

No, I'm very smart; you are the one lacking in intelligence...

Furthermore, it's clear you don't read comics..

Odin could replicate that feat and he's not abstract...

Odin can't even lift Mjolnir...

@H1..

How's he going to hurt a high end Thor?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No, I'm very smart; you are the one lacking in intelligence...

Furthermore, it's clear you don't read comics..

Odin could replicate that feat and he's not abstract... Prove that Odin can atomize Mjolnir or adamantium. Otherwise, you are simply lying.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
@H1..

How's he going to hurt a high end Thor? By punching holes through him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Odin can't even lift Mjolnir...

Writer incompetence.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove that Odin can atomize Mjolnir or adamantium. Otherwise, you are simply lying.

Are you capable of thinking?

The thoughts you project onto your computer screen undergo no QA process do they?

You never check your facts or actually read a comic before posting; you just look at random scans and draw crazy conclusions about what a given character can and cant do...


You arent debating; you make silly comments that people that actually read comics dont make as we actually know what we are talking about while you dont...

Btw, Odin is a confirmed Galaxy Buster; his power output is vast overkill compared to what is needed to destroy caps shield or Thors hammer...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Based on OP, he will hurt DD more than DD will hurt him.

Originally posted by h1a8
No! If the OE couldn't do anything then nothing Thor has can.




EXactly. Thor dies.

Originally posted by h1a8
By punching holes through him.
Not enough.
Originally posted by Star428

Originally posted by Star428
EXactly. Thor dies.
How?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Based on OP, he will hurt DD more than DD will hurt him.
No.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No.
High end Thor is too much. Based on OP, there's not much HP DD can do.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
High end Thor is too much. Based on OP, there's not much HP DD can do.
Nope. Do you want to compare high end thor to high end Superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. Do you want to compare high end thor to high end Superman?
Wow. Someone call psychogundam and put this fool in his place.

http://img-1.onedio.com/img/719/bound/2r0/537a07cb66a367ef07df60f1.gif

Sad.. Yet hilarious....

hysterical

So still nothing?

Yeah, keep wanking Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So still nothing?

Yeah, keep wanking Thor.


Your previous post reminds me of your mini breakdown by posting Supes flying through SF DS even though it was completely irrelevant to a thread that involved Thor's lightning vs Supes hv.
And then got called out for immaturity and desperation... Fun times.

Like I said, sad and hilarious at the same time.

Your constant excuses for Thor remain consistent in every thread though.

Its rather amusing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your constant excuses for Thor remain consistent in every thread though.

Its rather amusing.
Back to the thread.

How is Doomy hurting high end Thor? Remember this is high end Thor as per the op making his highs fair game and pretty much the norm. You know, the version most Supes fans think that Clark operates in as a norm(all highs and anything low is considered holding back). You should be an expert in that line of thinking.

Because he can casually shitstomp an amped Superman.

You need to prove this high end Thor is anywhere near a highly amped Superman.

Good luck with that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he can casually shitstomp an amped Superman.

You need to prove this high end Thor is anywhere near a highly amped Superman.

Good luck with that.
Lol. You already know DD's feats don't stack up to Thor's highs.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol. You already know DD's feats don't stack up to Thor's highs.
I know Thor's feats don't stack up to Superman's.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know Thor's feats don't stack up to Superman's.


Nice dodge.

Concession accepted.

You don't know WTF are you talking about.

Originally posted by abhilegend


You don't know WTF are you talking about.


You can be seen from a mile away brah..

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know Thor's feats don't stack up to Superman's.








Exactly...not even close.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You can be seen from a mile away brah..
Random nonsense now... SMH

So now its high end thor stacked against high end superman?

Originally posted by Genii96
So now its high end thor stacked against high end superman?
Apparently Doomsday is Clark's other name.

Originally posted by Ol' Shellhead
Truth is no-one can beat HP Doomsday more than once using any method.

That is not true!!!
Anyone who is controlling and manipulating time like Waverider will beat H/P Doomsday.
So people claim that H/P DD adapted to Waverider's chronal energies, DD only adapted to energy of nervous system shutdown

Hypothetically speaking (which, of course is not true at all), if H/P DD somehow manages to adapt to Waverider's chronal energies, all Waverider has to do is to time travel to the past before this happens plus like Waverider has already shown he can and does stop time in an entire area/space around any superhero/supervillain-end of H/P DD, plus Waverider time travels to time just before DD was even created, plus transport H/P DD at any part of time stream that would completely destroy him-feats like these Waverider does on a daily basis-and it's something no physical brick, including H/P DD cannot, have not, will not ever be able to adapt at all-100% irrefutably 100% proven facts.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Are you capable of thinking?

The thoughts you project onto your computer screen undergo no QA process do they?

You never check your facts or actually read a comic before posting; you just look at random scans and draw crazy conclusions about what a given character can and cant do...


You arent debating; you make silly comments that people that actually read comics dont make as we actually know what we are talking about while you dont...

Btw, Odin is a confirmed Galaxy Buster; his power output is vast overkill compared to what is needed to destroy caps shield or Thors hammer... So what's your stance? A characters highest feat is the level in which they operate in a forum fight?

If you are not, then you mentioning Odin as a galaxy buster is false.

If you are, then just know that the feat isn't what you think. Odin fought for a long time. Both were blasting many times. In other words, it took much time and many blasts from both characters to damage a galaxy. You can shatter something by creating a slit or split. Anyway, it's an impressive feat.

But the reason why we know skyfathers can't atomize adamantium is because that would make all heralds and above more durable than adamantium. Think about it?

Originally posted by h1a8
So what's your stance? A characters highest feat is the level in which they operate in a forum fight?

If you are not, then you mentioning Odin as a galaxy buster is false.

If you are, then just know that the feat isn't what you think. Odin fought for a long time. Both were blasting many times. In other words, it took much time and many blasts from both characters to damage a galaxy. You can shatter something by creating a slit or split. Anyway, it's an impressive feat.

But the reason why we know skyfathers can't atomize adamantium is because that would make all heralds and above more durable than adamantium. Think about it?

Omg...

Dude, go read some comics and come back and debate; don't just look at a few scans...READ COMICS.

From your above post its clear that your knowledge of Odin is incomplete, yet you insist on debating anyway...

Go read then come back and we'll talk...

Originally posted by Mister Supreme
That is not true!!!
Anyone who is controlling and manipulating time like Waverider will beat H/P Doomsday.
So people claim that H/P DD adapted to Waverider's chronal energies, DD only adapted to energy of nervous system shutdown

Hypothetically speaking (which, of course is not true at all), if H/P DD somehow manages to adapt to Waverider's chronal energies, all Waverider has to do is to time travel to the past before this happens plus like Waverider has already shown he can and does stop time in an entire area/space around any superhero/supervillain-end of H/P DD, plus Waverider time travels to time just before DD was even created, plus transport H/P DD at any part of time stream that would completely destroy him-feats like these Waverider does on a daily basis-and it's something no physical brick, including H/P DD cannot, have not, will not ever be able to adapt at all-100% irrefutably 100% proven facts.
You're just copy/pasting at this point.

Waverider lost to Doomsday. Get over it.

High end Thor as in all his best feats he's ever done?

Yes,thor best and highest showings only

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're just copy/pasting at this point.

Waverider lost to Doomsday. Get over it.



Can you please answer to these questions:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=618634&pagenumber=8#post15442087

Big thanks in advance.

Originally posted by Mister Supreme
Can you please answer to these questions:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=618634&pagenumber=8#post15442087

Big thanks in advance.
Why should I?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why should I?

I want to know what are my mistakes, what exactly I'm not seeing, where is the catch that's all.

Originally posted by Mister Supreme
I want to know what are my mistakes, what exactly I'm not seeing, where is the catch that's all.
You should be able to figure that out. You're applying battle board logic to comics.

If the writer wanted, he could have easily had Waverider beat Doomsday.

He didn't. What does that tells you?

Originally posted by h1a8
So what's your stance? A characters highest feat is the level in which they operate in a forum fight?

If you are not, then you mentioning Odin as a galaxy buster is false.

If you are, then just know that the feat isn't what you think. Odin fought for a long time. Both were blasting many times. In other words, it took much time and many blasts from both characters to damage a galaxy. You can shatter something by creating a slit or split. Anyway, it's an impressive feat.

But the reason why we know skyfathers can't atomize adamantium is because that would make all heralds and above more durable than adamantium. Think about it?
Odin has feats far beyond galaxy busting.


Which galaxy busting are you referring to btw? There's a few of them.

You're giving me control of Thor for this fight?
http://i.imgur.com/NUyttbn.gif

I absorb the energy of a star and shoot it at him from space at 10X it's original power.

And if that doesn't work, I open up his pocket dimension, pull out the belt of strength and wrap it around Mjolnir to fire off the Exitar dome buster again.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Odin has feats far beyond galaxy busting.


Which galaxy busting are you referring to btw? There's a few of them. I'm referring to both of them. There are only 2.

Odin has no other feats beyond damaging a galaxy with the help of someone else. I'll argue that his other feats of great magnitude have no damage output power.

Ripping your entire Universe out of Yggdrasil sounds somewhat damaging.

Not quite as intimidating as shooting bones out your arms but whatever.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm referring to both of them. There are only 2.

Odin has no other feats beyond damaging a galaxy with the help of someone else. I'll argue that his other feats of great magnitude have no damage output power.
Seth, Forsung, Infinity(himself)...
And causing multiversal upheaval even when done while fighting against an opponent is so far beyond galaxy busting it's laughable. H1 man...........


And what Shadowfyre said.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Seth, Forsung, Infinity(himself)...
And causing multiversal upheaval even when done while fighting against an opponent is so far beyond galaxy busting it's laughable. H1 man...........


And what Shadowfyre said.

The Seth one is valid. That's the one I was referring to. Forsung one is not valid. Infinity is iffy (could be hyperbole).

What feat are you referring to when say multiversal upheaval?

Originally posted by h1a8
The Seth one is valid. That's the one I was referring to. Forsung one is not valid. Infinity is iffy (could be hyperbole).

What feat are you referring to when say multiversal upheaval?
Why would the Forsung fight not be valid? During their fight, they were using so much power that they created a fireball of energy around them that was large enough to leave a galaxy wide wake. They shattered dead planets "as if they were ant hills" and created new suns just from the heat alone.

And when he fought his evil half(Infinity), the comic stated that planets crumbled and galaxies fell. As a side effect alone planets everywhere were experiencing cataclysms even though the fight was happening at the edge of the universe.

And like Shadowfyre said, he already tore off a universe from the Yggdrassil.

Seth fight.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Why would the Forsung fight not be valid? During their fight, they were using so much power that they created a fireball of energy around them that was large enough to leave a galaxy wide wake. They shattered dead planets "as if they were ant hills" and created new suns just from the heat alone.

And when he fought his evil half(Infinity), the comic stated that planets crumbled and galaxies fell. As a side effect alone planets everywhere were experiencing cataclysms even though the fight was happening at the edge of the universe.

And like Shadowfyre said, he already tore off a universe from the Yggdrassil.

Seth fight. Two beings creating a galaxy wide wake isn't the same as destroying a galaxy. It could have been a wake of light that doesn't do any destruction of stars. Igniting dead stars isn't galaxy busting.

The comic didn't state galaxies actually fell. Odin was merely talking. But I can accept it. That's why I said 2 feats, not 3.

He tore a universe off from the Yggdrassil? Scans? Issue numbers? What were the circumstances? What was the plot device? I need to read it to interpret it correctly. It could have literally taken little power to do it, like pressing a button to activate something.

Originally posted by h1a8
Two beings creating a galaxy wide wake isn't the same as destroying a galaxy. It could have been a wake of light that doesn't do any destruction of stars. Igniting dead stars isn't galaxy busting.

The comic didn't state galaxies actually fell. Odin was merely talking. But I can accept it. That's why I said 2 feats, not 3.

He tore a universe off from the Yggdrassil? Scans? Issue numbers? What were the circumstances? What was the plot device? I need to read it to interpret it correctly. It could have literally taken little power to do it, like pressing a button to activate something.
Lol you are nitpicking. We already know they were destroying planets everywhere and treated them like "ant hills". The heat alone from their "galaxy wide wake" was creating new suns as a side effect. And that was just a side effect of their battle. They didn't purposely travel around the cosmos to destroy galaxies. But wutever...

Tears off the Tenth Realm(Heven) from Yggdrasil.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/27zgk6q.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/dggg42.jpg

And just for reference, each realm in Yggdrasil is a fully formed universe.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/jhvqr5.jpg

Like Old Asgard Space is.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/29f9urq.jpg

For the people that is debating against H1, do you think he will accept or agree with any of the scans you post.? Then answer this. How much do you cherish your energy"time?

H1 is actually raz

Originally posted by carver9
For the people that is debating against H1, do you think he will accept or agree with any of the scans you post.? Then answer this. How much do you cherish your energy"time?
He did make me lol though.

H1 - "He tore a universe off from the Yggdrassil? Scans? Issue numbers? What were the circumstances? What was the plot device? I need to read it to interpret it correctly. It could have literally taken little power to do it, like pressing a button to activate something."

Dude was making demands as if he abided by the same rules.

hysterical

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol you are nitpicking. We already know they were destroying planets everywhere and treated them like "ant hills". The heat alone from their "galaxy wide wake" was creating new suns as a side effect. And that was just a side effect of their battle. They didn't purposely travel around the cosmos to destroy galaxies. But wutever...

Tears off the Tenth Realm(Heven) from Yggdrasil.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/27zgk6q.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/dggg42.jpg

And just for reference, each realm in Yggdrasil is a fully formed universe.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/jhvqr5.jpg

Like Old Asgard Space is.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/29f9urq.jpg ok so he did it from the tree and not by being in actual space. So if I tear a part off the tree, or merely move a part of the tree, then does that mean I did something to spacetime itself?

Originally posted by h1a8
ok so he did it from the tree and not by being in actual space. So if I tear a part off the tree, or merely move a part of the tree, then does that mean I did something to spacetime itself?
http://i.imgur.com/hejvw.gif


Where are you getting this from? Out of anger, he tore off the 10th realm from Yggdrasil right after his battle with the forces of Heven(battle was in Asgard). There was no magic button or shoehorned plot power. It was all Odinforce.
He displaced a whole you universe from its normal position in space/time and placed it in a totally new area. Ygdrassil is a manifestation of the cosmological map used by Asgardians that shows the nine realms(ten counting Heven) in relation to each other.
Why would you even attempt to lowball this?

this was a fun read, I'm glad I keep H1 on ignore

Originally posted by h1a8
ok so he did it from the tree and not by being in actual space. So if I tear a part off the tree, or merely move a part of the tree, then does that mean I did something to spacetime itself?

Bro, the World Tree isn't literally just a tree.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Bro, the World Tree isn't literally just a tree. Of course it is. You're just not thinking 4th dimensionally, dood.

https://mixedsignal.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/img_0018.jpg

Yes, he needed to get that extra 10 feet up to rip away their universe. So he climbed a tree.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Bro, the World Tree isn't literally just a tree. It's a special tree. But it's still a tree.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
http://i.imgur.com/hejvw.gif


Where are you getting this from? Out of anger, he tore off the 10th realm from Yggdrasil right after his battle with the forces of Heven(battle was in Asgard). There was no magic button or shoehorned plot power. It was all Odinforce.
He displaced a whole you universe from its normal position in space/time and placed it in a totally new area. Ygdrassil is a manifestation of the cosmological map used by Asgardians that shows the nine realms(ten counting Heven) in relation to each other.
Why would you even attempt to lowball this? So again, if I manipulate a part of the tree then did I manipulate reality of a certain realm?

Originally posted by h1a8
It's a special tree. But it's still a tree.

So again, if I manipulate a part of the tree then did I manipulate reality of a certain realm?
Ok before we go any further, first tell me what you are trying to get at?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ok before we go any further, first tell me what you are trying to get at? I'm trying to say that the feat is unquantifiable. We don't know exactly to what extent that affecting the tree will affect the reality that part of the tree represents. For example, if someone applies several thousand tons of force to a particular part of the tree then it is possible that something will change in that actually part of reality. Didn't normal Thor manipulate the tree physically one time?

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm trying to say that the feat is unquantifiable. We don't know exactly to what extent that affecting the tree will affect the reality that part of the tree represents. For example, if someone applies several thousand tons of force to a particular part of the tree then it is possible that something will change in that actually part of reality. Didn't normal Thor manipulate the tree physically one time?
Again where are you getting this from? Look at the scans again. Odin did not walk up to a manifestation of Yggdrassil and simply tear off a branch and connected it somewhere else.

I've seen it all now. Lol..

That was a high end unquantifiable feat for Thor. He fought the will of the tree when he pushed the world engine. And it was only possible due to the machinations of Seth. He created the world engine to eventually mess the tree up. Yes the same Seth who battled Odin later on causing all kinds of side effects like sending shockwaves to multiple planes of reality and destroying galaxies and such.

Basically a simple schmuck off the street would not be able to manipulate Yggdrasil just like that. It would have to be someone with monumental power.

H1 man.... Man.........

And as for the feat being unquantifiable, no shiet...
When was the last time you quantified something that had someone removing a universe from it's original place?
Or something comparable..

This I gotta see......

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Again where are you getting this from? Look at the scans again. Odin did not walk up to a manifestation of Yggdrassil and simply tear off a branch and connected it somewhere else.

I've seen it all now. Lol..

That was a high end unquantifiable feat for Thor. He fought the will of the tree when he pushed the world engine. And it was only possible due to the machinations of Seth. He created the world engine to eventually mess the tree up. Yes the same Seth who battled Odin later on causing all kinds of side effects like sending shockwaves to multiple planes of reality and destroying galaxies and such.

Basically a simple schmuck off the street would not be able to manipulate Yggdrasil just like that. It would have to be someone with monumental power.

H1 man.... Man......... Actually the world tree connects nine worlds. Each world is no bigger than a planet. And Seth didn't create the world engine. Anyway Odin manipulated yggdrasil to achieve the feat. We don't know how much power that took. That's why it's unquantifiable.

Originally posted by h1a8
Actually the world tree connects nine worlds. Each world is no bigger than a planet. And Seth didn't create the world engine. Anyway Odin manipulated yggdrasil to achieve the feat. We don't know how much power that took. That's why it's unquantifiable.
So each "fully formed" universe connected through Yggdrasilbis no bigger than a planet... Gotcha.

Pretty sure Seth did. If not him who do you think created it?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So each "fully formed" universe connected through Yggdrasilbis no bigger than a planet... Gotcha.

Pretty sure Seth did. If not him who do you think created it? Midgard isn't a universe, Jotunheim isn't a universe, etc. The tree makes the feat flaky. It's a plot device.

I think it was a physicist that created the world engine. He was obsessed with Ragnarok.