Ichigo (Final Getsuga form) vs. The Captains of the Gotei 13

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jmoul
As the title says, Ichigo is in his Final Getsuga form and he is taking on all of the Captains of the Gotei 13 at the same time, Yamamoto is in this fight, and the captains have put aside their pride and will not just go at him for one-on-one fights.

This takes place in the same part of the Soul Society that Ichigo fought Aizen.

Mugetsu can be used without Ichigo losing his powers in this fight, and he can also use Getsuga Tenshou.

Does he pull this off, or can the Gotei 13 Captains stop him?

Please explain your reasoning.

NewGuy01
Kek Yamamoto solos.

jmoul
Aizen had more spirit energy than Yamamoto, and Ichigo kicked his ass to the moon and back while giving fewer ****s than Byakuya has ever given.

NewGuy01
Yet he still can't even touch Yamamoto's Zanka no Tachi West.

Jmanghan
Ichigo gets rid of his Zanpoktou and kills them all via putting his hand through their stomach.

SSJGGogeta
No, Yamamoto was most definitely more powerful than Aizen. Aizen himself admitted this. Which is the reason he created Wonderweiss in the first place. Yamamoto also stated that no soul reaper had been born in the last thousand years that was stronger than him.

Anyway, Yamamoto's bankai is way too hax for Ichigo to even dream of dealing with. It's above anything else demonstrated in the series, by far.

Yama solo's

Jmanghan
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
No, Yamamoto was most definitely more powerful than Aizen. Aizen himself admitted this. Which is the reason he created Wonderweiss in the first place. Yamamoto also stated that no soul reaper had been born in the last thousand years that was stronger than him.

Anyway, Yamamoto's bankai is way too hax for Ichigo to even dream of dealing with. It's above anything else demonstrated in the series, by far.

Yama solo's Except, if that were true, he could've taken Aizen.

Just as well, Aizen wasn't nearly at full power yet, especially with the Hogyoku not activated.

In Ichigo's fight with Aizen, be showed barely a bit of his true power. Mugetsu would kill Yamamamoto without a shadow of a doubt, not that Ichigo would need it.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Except, if that were true, he could've taken Aizen.

Just as well, Aizen wasn't nearly at full power yet, especially with the Hogyoku not activated.

In Ichigo's fight with Aizen, be showed barely a bit of his true power. Mugetsu would kill Yamamamoto without a shadow of a doubt, not that Ichigo would need it.

Uh, he COULD have taken Aizen. Yamamoto and Aizen BOTH outright stated that Yama was definitely the superior of the two.

Again, Aizen clearly stated that he created Wonderweiss simply because he couldn't contend with Yama's Ryujinjaka, WHICH IS JUST YAMA'S SHIKAI. Yamamoto using bankai would literally dissolve Aizen's body, Hogyoku included, just by being within the general vicinity of it.

They both outright stated that NO soul reaper was born more powerful than Yama, and Aizen had never even seen more than Yama's shikai.

Mugetsu would do as little damage to Yama as it did to Aizen, but Yama wouldn't lose his powers after surviving it. And if he was in Bankai, going by showings, Mugetsu would have bounced off of him, or dissolved before it even touched him.

jmoul
Mugetsu cut Aizen in half. Aizen only survived because he had instant regeneration, a power that Yamamoto does not have.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by jmoul
Mugetsu cut Aizen in half. Aizen only survived because he had instant regeneration, a power that Yamamoto does not have.

Mugetsu didn't completely cut Aizen in half. It only damaged deeply into his hierro. His body was still in one piece.

Yamamoto's mere reiatsu in bankai would undoubtedly be capable of incinerating Mugetsu.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Mugetsu didn't completely cut Aizen in half. It only damaged deeply into his hierro. His body was still in one piece.

Yamamoto's mere reiatsu in bankai would undoubtedly be capable of incinerating Mugetsu. It cut Aizen straight in half, dude.

Also, I don't think you realize how far above Mugetsu Ichigo is then Aizen.

It would have taken countless Hogyoku transformation to even get on Dangai Ichigo's level, let-alone Mugetsu Ichigo.

Ichigo was so powerful that Aizen, at a deeply-transformed Hogyoku stage couldn't detect Ichigo's reiatsu, he was on a whole nother spectrum of power.

Aizen in the Hogyoku's first form casually stomped the shit out of Yoruichi, Isshin Kurosaki, and Kisuke Urahara, at the same time, with a single blow.

Earlier, Aizen had beaten the entire Gotei 13, barring Yamamoto, who he did eventually defeat, even if he was outsmarting him as opposed to overpowering him.

Ichigo is the most powerful character in the Bleach-verse.

Genesis-Soldier
well you lads seem to know quite a bit about bleach then me

didn't the captain lose his arm thou?

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by Jmanghan
It cut Aizen straight in half, dude.

Also, I don't think you realize how far above Mugetsu Ichigo is then Aizen.

It would have taken countless Hogyoku transformation to even get on Dangai Ichigo's level, let-alone Mugetsu Ichigo.

Ichigo was so powerful that Aizen, at a deeply-transformed Hogyoku stage couldn't detect Ichigo's reiatsu, he was on a whole nother spectrum of power.

Aizen in the Hogyoku's first form casually stomped the shit out of Yoruichi, Isshin Kurosaki, and Kisuke Urahara, at the same time, with a single blow.

Earlier, Aizen had beaten the entire Gotei 13, barring Yamamoto, who he did eventually defeat, even if he was outsmarting him as opposed to overpowering him.

Ichigo is the most powerful character in the Bleach-verse.

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Aizen is CLEARLY not cut into two separate pieces here. Which is directly after he was hit with Mugetsu.

And again, Ichigo being above Aizen doesn't mean a damn thing. Ichigo was still hurt by Aizen's Hollow blast, so much that his entire left arm was scorched. So he clearly wasn't THAT far above Aizen.

And it was DIRECTLY stated MANY times that Yamamoto was THE strongest Soul Reaper. PERIOD. Ichigo is a soul reaper, dummy.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
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Aizen is CLEARLY not cut into two separate pieces here. Which is directly after he was hit with Mugetsu.

And again, Ichigo being above Aizen doesn't mean a damn thing. Ichigo was still hurt by Aizen's Hollow blast, so much that his entire left arm was scorched. So he clearly wasn't THAT far above Aizen.

And it was DIRECTLY stated MANY times that Yamamoto was THE strongest Soul Reaper. PERIOD. Ichigo is a soul reaper, dummy. First off, you are blind. Aizen is clearly cut in half in those scans. That little black line running down his body? Thats him being cut in half.

Thats because Ichigo let himself get hit with the blast, just like Isshin hurt Aizen in Crysallis Form.

But thats different, isn't it? I guarantee that what you're going to say in your next post, so, I'll counter it now. No, it was not any different, Isshin may as well have done no damage at all, because it clearly didn't hurt Aizen one bit.

Yoruichi said Ichigo was literally a never-ending well of spiritual pressure.

Not even counting the fact that his "scorched" arm had little to no effect on Ichigo.

Aizen transforming through the Hogyoku at the time made him above Soul Reapers and Hollows in power, which he clearly points out several times, dumbass.

There's no point in debating with someone who can't listen to logic and accept valid points.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Thats because Ichigo let himself get hit with the blast, just like Isshin hurt Aizen in Crysallis Form.

But thats different, isn't it? I guarantee that what you're going to say in your next post, so, I'll counter it now. No, it was not any different, Isshin may as well have done no damage at all, because it clearly didn't hurt Aizen one bit.

Yoruichi said Ichigo was literally a never-ending well of spiritual pressure.

Not even counting the fact that his "scorched" arm had little to no effect on Ichigo.

Aizen transforming through the Hogyoku at the time made him above Soul Reapers and Hollows in power, which he clearly points out several times, dumbass.

There's no point in debating with someone who can't listen to logic and accept valid points.

1. Uh, no, I don't need to resort to "no, you" tactics, because this is pretty sad on your part, tbh.

Isshin hurting Aizen proves that Aizen wasn't THAT much stronger than him. It means that the gap between SS arc Kenpachi and Ichigo was larger, and even that gap was bridgeable by simple willpower on Ichigo's part. Saying that Aizen was twice as strong as Isshin at that point is plain idiotic. People have been closer in terms of strength than that, and not been able to hurt him. Proving that not only was Isshin at least on par with Chrysalis Aizen, but Full hollow Aizen was at least on par with Dangai Ichigo.

2. No one has ever said that about Ichigo, seriously. He has very clear limits, screwattack. sick

3. Ignoring pain doesn't equate to not being damaged. If that were true, Kenpachi would be pretty much invincible, considering he gets hacked into pieces in most of his fights, yet keeps a smile on while maniacally chuckling at his opponents.

4. There is no limit to a soul reapers powers, dumb ass. Their potential growth is the same as ninja in Naruto, Saiyan's in DBZ, and pretty much any other character from fighting anime's. If they can train their energies, they can get stronger infinitely. It's not a physical thing.

And Aizen had simply mixed hollow and soul reaper powers. Basically all he did was become a vizard. He was still a soul reaper. Just like Ichigo. Both of which, Yamamoto was a god to.

5. You're right. There IS no point to arguing with someone who can't accept when they're wrong, so I'm done here. I've already proven indisputably that Yamamoto is more powerful than all the other soul reapers, Aizen and Ichigo included.

Actually the series proved that, by stating it, and making Aizen resort to outsmarting Yamamoto, before he could even use bankai. But you clearly lack the intellectual capacity to understand that, so I'm wasting my time here. L8r. thumb up wink

carver9
Aizen was cut in half.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by carver9
Aizen was cut in half.

The scans are right there, moron. thumb down

yungz22
aizen wasnt cut in half he was just deeply cut....if he was cut in half you would be able to see the ground in between his body.

and yama jii was stronger than aizen idk how thats even being argued aizen stated it himself

jmoul
Aizen said Yamamoto was above him, true, BUT that before his Hogyoku transformations, each one increasing his spirit energy to a higher level. At the 4th stage (or 3rd, whatever, the one with the black face and mouths on his wings), Aizen STILL couldn't sense Ichigo's spirit energy.

While Aizen may not have been stronger than Yamamoto when he said Yama was superior to him, but when Ichigo hit him with Mugetsu, Aizen was at least on par with Yamamoto.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by jmoul
Aizen said Yamamoto was above him, true, BUT that before his Hogyoku transformations, each one increasing his spirit energy to a higher level. At the 4th stage (or 3rd, whatever, the one with the black face and mouths on his wings), Aizen STILL couldn't sense Ichigo's spirit energy.

While Aizen may not have been stronger than Yamamoto when he said Yama was superior to him, but when Ichigo hit him with Mugetsu, Aizen was at least on par with Yamamoto. YES, THANK YOU!

yungz22
yea i dont think he was stronger than hogyoku aizen but at the same time how can aizen get past zanka no tachi

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by jmoul
Aizen said Yamamoto was above him, true, BUT that before his Hogyoku transformations, each one increasing his spirit energy to a higher level. At the 4th stage (or 3rd, whatever, the one with the black face and mouths on his wings), Aizen STILL couldn't sense Ichigo's spirit energy.

While Aizen may not have been stronger than Yamamoto when he said Yama was superior to him, but when Ichigo hit him with Mugetsu, Aizen was at least on par with Yamamoto.

This entire post is rambling nonsense based off of simple assumption. You have no way to gauge Aizen's power at that point, compared to his power in his previous forms. All we know is that Gin was still fully capable of harming Aizen in his 3rd evolution, and Gin was weaker than Aizen was in base form. What this proves is that Aizen's evolutions clearly didn't make him THAT much stronger, since even FOUR TRANSFORMATIONS didn't put him on a "plane of existence" above Gin.

And let's also not forget that Aizen's strongest attacks weren't in danger of destroying the real Karakura town, when just the AFTEREFFECTS of Yamamoto's shikai WERE GOING to destroy the town, had he not absorbed the damage himself.

jmoul
Those aftereffects only occurred because Wonderweiss condensed and contained it all into a bomb. Yamamoto's shikai wasn't directly going to wipe out Karakura Town except if it was all released as a single blast.

Gin was only able to wound Aizen through surprise attack and trickery. His attack may have wounded Aizen, but that was when Aizen was 2 evolutions lower than when Ichigo hit him with Mugetsu. And what did that effort win Gin? Well, it cost him an arm and a life.

jmoul
Also, Aizen's strongest attacks wouldn't have been able to destroy Karakura? Really? He hit Ichigo with the spirit energy bomb that at least appeared to be a nuclear explosion (based on the fact that Tatsuki and the others were hit with some of the force of the explosion). I'm pretty sure that would wipe out a good portion of Karakura if not all of it.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by jmoul
Those aftereffects only occurred because Wonderweiss condensed and contained it all into a bomb. Yamamoto's shikai wasn't directly going to wipe out Karakura Town except if it was all released as a single blast.

Gin was only able to wound Aizen through surprise attack and trickery. His attack may have wounded Aizen, but that was when Aizen was 2 evolutions lower than when Ichigo hit him with Mugetsu. And what did that effort win Gin? Well, it cost him an arm and a life.

Uh, so? Yamamoto's shikai held the potency to destroy more than even Aizen's greatest attack in his greatest form. That's ridiculous, and clearly puts him above Aizen.

Again, SO? Ichigo outright slammed his sword into Kenpachi's chest, and ended up skinning his hands because of it. Without even scratching Kenpachi. Clearly the difference between the two was bigger than the difference between Aizen and Ichigo, or Aizen and Gin. And even that difference was very slight. And that was ONE evolution below his final form. Not two.

Either way, the proof is in the pudding. Yamamoto has far greater strength, destructive capacity, durability, fighting style, and hax. Not to mention his speed.

You don't have a single SHRED of evidence that puts Aizen anywhere NEAR Yamamoto, but there IS proof that Yamamoto is far greater than Aizen. As was even STATED outright, by Aizen HIMSELF. thumb up

yungz22
I dont have a definitive answer for whos stronger...... zanka no tachi is pretty hax as well as kyoka suigetsu plus the fact that aizen is immortal now and it is suggested that he has gotten stronger since his defeat...


would be a good fight but the victor is hard to concretly define

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by yungz22
I dont have a definitive answer for whos stronger...... zanka no tachi is pretty hax as well as kyoka suigetsu plus the fact that aizen is immortal now and it is suggested that he has gotten stronger since his defeat...


would be a good fight but the victor is hard to concretly define

Read the OP. thumb up

This fighting isn't Aizen vs. Yamamoto, it's Mugetsu Ichigo vs. The Gotei 13.

And the scale is still Bankai Yamamoto >>>>> Mugetsu Ichigo >>> Aizen.

Current pl's don't matter. Aizen could be a hundred times stronger than Yamamoto right now, and the thread still goes to Yama.

Aizen hasn't gotten that much stronger though, jsyk.

jmoul
Alright, since we've established that Yama is the most difficult of the Captains for Ichigo to beat (as expected), how do the other captains do against him?

Jmanghan
Originally posted by jmoul
Alright, since we've established that Yama is the most difficult of the Captains for Ichigo to beat (as expected), how do the other captains do against him? They die instantly.

yungz22
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Read the OP. thumb up

This fighting isn't Aizen vs. Yamamoto, it's Mugetsu Ichigo vs. The Gotei 13.

And the scale is still Bankai Yamamoto >>>>> Mugetsu Ichigo >>> Aizen.

Current pl's don't matter. Aizen could be a hundred times stronger than Yamamoto right now, and the thread still goes to Yama.

Aizen hasn't gotten that much stronger though, jsyk.


aizen is part of the gotei 13 is he not?

yungz22
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Read the OP. thumb up

This fighting isn't Aizen vs. Yamamoto, it's Mugetsu Ichigo vs. The Gotei 13. .

aizen was part of th gotei 13 wa he not

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by yungz22
aizen was part of th gotei 13 wa he not

Is Kisuke?

No, just because they were at one point doesn't mean they still are, lol. Aizen waged an all-out war against the Gotei 13. He's a soul reaper, but he's not a captain anymore. Hitsugaya even said that outright.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by jmoul
Alright, since we've established that Yama is the most difficult of the Captains for Ichigo to beat (as expected), how do the other captains do against him?

Yeah, the only one who could manage anything is Shunsui, and that's only with his bankai. And I can still see Ichigo overpowering that.

yungz22
'lol

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