Mace and Dooku vs Kenobi, Anakin, Maul and Savage

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McP
Geonosis arena.
All-out

Round 1: regular TCW/SOD/ROTS versions for all of them.
Round 2: Mace gets that amp he had during his fight with Sidious, Dooku gets his Vjun amp and Anakin gets his best feats from Stover's novel (Zone mode etc). Regular versions for Kenobi, Maul and Savage.

EmperorSidious2
Round 1. Well Team 1 would have to abuse force to win. If they do then they can take it with difficulty.

Round 2. Team 1 with little to moderate difficulty.

Q99
Team 2. Anakin and Maul both serve as very good anchors to take on their opponents, with their partners they have the advantages.

NewGuy01
Team 2 should demolish tbh.

Darth Thor
Team 2 Easily. Both Rounds.

Maul + Savage are too much for Dooku.

Anakin + Kenobi are too much for Windu.

JKBart
Within round 1 it's honestly no contest. Mace vs. Anakin is a good fight on its own, add Kenobi there, and it's set in stone with virtually no chances for Mace to win. Dooku vs. Maul is a good fight on its own too, even with Dooku's clear and obvious superiority, but add Savage in there and the gap is completely sealed. They won't go down without a fight, but 2v4 is way too much. Team 2 wins every time, 10/10, no without trouble, but without the smallest chance for Mace and Dooku either.

In round 2 Mace, operating basically on Palpatine level in sheer dueling, is on a far different level than any of them, and is too powerful for Anakin to hope to get the edge via direct Force usage, especially with Windu being so insanely fight on this amp.
Amped Dooku can take anyone without a problem, when Windu can survive against any 3 at once before Dooku comes to his aid. If it's the other way around, amped Windu stomps anybody in diffeent timespans, with Dooku possibly already dogpiled, or barely holding on in the meantime, with 0 chances for Mace if Dooku gets downed. If either of them fights a duo, Mace as the MVP gets the edge for his team with the lone fact that he will kill any of his opponents fastest. Team 2 7-8/10.

McP
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Round 1. Well Team 1 would have to abuse force to win.

Really, I don't see Mace spamming Force attacks againt that team. Anakin and Maul might be even comperable to him in terms of TK. Savage, though not as skilled as them, has a great raw-power in TK. Dooku's FL also might be useless, since probably any of the other team can block it with a saber.

Originally posted by JKBart
Within round 1 it's honestly no contest. Mace vs. Anakin is a good fight on its own, add Kenobi there, and it's set in stone with virtually no chances for Mace to win.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Anakin + Kenobi are too much for Windu.

I agree that Anakin on his own can be a challange for Windu. As he was for Dooku. But will Kenobi change anything? He wasn't much of a factor against Dooku, Mace's equal.

Originally posted by JKBart
Dooku vs. Maul is a good fight on its own too, even with Dooku's clear and obvious superiority, but add Savage in there and the gap is completely sealed.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Maul + Savage are too much for Dooku.


Also agree, Dooku vs Maul would be a great fight too. But - just as Kenobi - will Savage change much in that fight? Last tiem when Opress fought Dooku, it was very small area. Here, on Geonosis, Dooku will have much more space. And also, Opress was slow and got a lot of kicks from Kenobi. Even Adi managed to kick his knee. Dooku already shown himself as someone, who is able to literaly stun his enemy by kicking him (he nearly stomped Kenobi in that way, and he also gave Skywalker lesson of kicking).


I would say, that in the first scenario team 1 will be stomped if they will fight 1 vs 1 and 3 vs 1. Maul and Anakin, both are able to give Mace or Dooku run of their moneys. And either one of them will be stomped by three oponents at once. But two fights in the same proportion, one against two, who knows?
More then that, I'm not even sure if Dooku wouldn't be too much for Skywalker/Kenobi duo in that scenario. Kenobi was really lucky that he survived that battle on Oba Diah. Regular Skywalker also might fall to Dooku at the end.

Scenario 2 is far more open for interpretations. Amped Dooku was nearly equal to Yoda in my opinion. That's not far below amped Mace. Hard to tell how much would that amp give Dooku against prime Skywalker. Also, Palpatine and Yoda would have a clear advantage in the Force over Skywalker. An advantage that Mace or Dooku don't posses.
Anyway, Anakin, Mace and Dooku should be close in that scenario (I would say that Anakin is best, Mace second and Dooku third). Maul should be able to hold his own for a while. Hard to tell the same about Kenobi or Savage. Especially against Dooku's amped Force powers.

Imo:
Round 1: perhaps split (if 2x 2v2) and nearly a stomp (if 1v1 and 3v1)
Round 2: majority for Dooku and Windu due to Kenobi and Savage inferiority

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Team 2 should demolish tbh.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Team 2 should demolish tbh.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Team 2 Easily. Both Rounds.

Maul + Savage are too much for Dooku.

Anakin + Kenobi are too much for Windu.
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McP
Second round is easily as well?

Darth Thor
Originally posted by McP
Second round is easily as well?


Hard to say how much of an amp Dooku got on Vjun tbh. But yeah obviously Dooku would be a much bigger challenge for Maul+Opress in that scenario, but Dooku's team should still lose solidly IMO.

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