Michael Myers vs Rick Grimes

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Darth Truculent
Michael is on a killing spree in Alexandria and Rick finds Michael breaking into his home. Rick throws him into the street and the fight begins. Each are equipped with their respective weapons:

Rick:
.44 Magnum
Machete

Michael:
Knife

There is absolutely no rules. Who wins? The ultimate Walker killer or the emotionless Michael?

quanchi112
Which Michael ?

Robtard
Killer Rick does what Killer Rick does, puts a few bullets in Mikey's dome and then makes this face:

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140906205357/walkingdead/images/f/f2/S5_Rick_Close-Up.png

quanchi112
Are you implying Michael is the same as a walking dead zombie ?

Robtard
LOl, quan. Michael Myers isn't even a zombie, didn't you watch the last installment of Halloween? Of course you didn't.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
LOl, quan. Michael Myers isn't even a zombie, didn't you watch the last installment of Halloween? Of course you didn't. You acted as if he deals with him as easily as he would a zombie. So you concede the point.

Robtard
Nope, you just suck at this and you're ignorant of the players on the board, as usual. Rick is a former cop and hardened veteran of the Z-Apoc and he has extremely good aim at shooting heads. FFS, you though Myers was a zombie here. LoL!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
Nope, you just suck at this and you're ignorant of the players on the board, as usual. Rick is a former cop and hardened veteran of the Z-Apoc and he has extremely good aim at shooting heads. FFS, you though Myers was a zombie here. LoL! Myers can problem solve and drive so comparing him to some immobile zombie is laughing out loud

Robtard
Already covered with the quote below, your game is old and weak:

Originally posted by Robtard
LOl, quan. Michael Myers isn't even a zombie, didn't you watch the last installment of Halloween? Of course you didn't.

As usual you don't post on the outcome of the match and just rant and try to derail.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
Already covered with the quote below, your game is old and weak:



As usual you don't post on the outcome of the match and just rant and try to derail. So your point is useless since Rick does that to zombies not someone like Michael.

KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm also wondering which Myers this is... If it's Original Myers that can't be put down Rick goes down HARD. If it's current Myers (I'm guessing so since we use current version unless otherwise stated) than Rick wins.

Khazra Reborn
What's the deal with Rob Zombie Myers? I'm assuming he's not nigh invincible like Carpenter Myers

quanchi112
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
What's the deal with Rob Zombie Myers? I'm assuming he's not nigh invincible like Carpenter Myers He doesn't have the damage soak but much faster. Carpenter Myers wins.

Adam Grimes
Rick shoots the **** out of him.

TheVaultDweller
Old Michael wins. New one gets his head blown into little chunks after Rick unloads the python in his face.

jinXed by JaNx
I don't know if Myers can be killed but he can certainly be easily stopped. Rick finds a big rig and parks it on Myers, the end.

If that's breaking the rules i don't see why a few rounds to the head from, Ricks magnum wouldn't stop, Myers. It's stopped him before.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
So your point is useless since Rick does that to zombies not someone like Michael.

So you don't know anything about Rick either. Not surprised. Anyhow. Rick also has experience shooting humans.

Tattoos N Scars
Rick should win as long as he stays at range. If Mike grabs him, it id probably over.

KingD19
As soon as Rick gets up he's gonna shoot him in the face.

That's the entire fight as Rock doesn't f*ck around

KuRuPT Thanosi
Upon rethinking this fight... Even old Michael might lose depending on this forums rules pertaining to incapacitation. On some forums it's 30 seconds, but it can vary. I believe Rick could possibly put him down for that long... it wouldn't stop him.. and Rick would eventually go down in a real fight. In a forum fight though, that might constitute a win. The issue could be... he could briefly incapacitate him... then walk over to him after 10 seconds to check on him or put a few more holes in him... at which point Myers grabs him and stomps.

Granted it seems like the times Myers has been down longer than 30 seconds, was because of more damage than a Magnum is capable of. In No. 2 (Explosion)... No. 5 (I think) after getting a barrage of bullets from multiple cops using multiple guns... It was shown later he escaped before the dynamite exploded in the ditch.... but it still put him down for almost a year. Though that could also be argued that it didn't really put him down... more that he shut himself down till the next Halloween... which was a common theme in these movies. So who really knows. Seems like his damage soak had increased from No. 1 to no. 2... No. 1 bullets send him flying for a temp KO... In the next movie.. he tanks two bullets to his head and he wasn't even temp KO'd.

I guess I'll stick with my original stance... Old Michael wins... new Michael loses

Arachnid1
They're in a populated housing area? You guys are acting like it's actually going to be a balls out fight. Both Myers stealth murder the phuck out of Rick.

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Arachnid1
They're in a populated housing area? You guys are acting like it's actually going to be a balls out fight. Both Myers stealth murder the phuck out of Rick.


If Micheal was invulnerable to .44 bullets to the head i'd agree with you.

Robtard
Originally posted by Arachnid1
They're in a populated housing area? You guys are acting like it's actually going to be a balls out fight. Both Myers stealth murder the phuck out of Rick.

From the OP: "Michael is on a killing spree in Alexandria and Rick finds Michael breaking into his home. Rick throws him into the street and the fight begins"

So it's a face-off style situation and one guy is armed with a knife; the other with a .44 Magnum.

marvelmadness13
I don't see Rick with a revolver doing any better than Loomis with a revolver. Once he's out of bullets Myers will take him with relative ease.

Robtard
Unless otherwise stated, we use characters from their latest showing. So this is human Michael and not force-of-nature Michael from the originals.

marvelmadness13
Never saw the Zombieween films so I can't comment on that. Classic Michael would stomp though.

Robtard
Classic would.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
Classic would. So you admit I was right when I said which Myers makes the difference. You're such a follower.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Upon rethinking this fight... Even old Michael might lose depending on this forums rules pertaining to incapacitation. On some forums it's 30 seconds, but it can vary. I believe Rick could possibly put him down for that long... it wouldn't stop him.. and Rick would eventually go down in a real fight. In a forum fight though, that might constitute a win. The issue could be... he could briefly incapacitate him... then walk over to him after 10 seconds to check on him or put a few more holes in him... at which point Myers grabs him and stomps.

Granted it seems like the times Myers has been down longer than 30 seconds, was because of more damage than a Magnum is capable of. In No. 2 (Explosion)... No. 5 (I think) after getting a barrage of bullets from multiple cops using multiple guns... It was shown later he escaped before the dynamite exploded in the ditch.... but it still put him down for almost a year. Though that could also be argued that it didn't really put him down... more that he shut himself down till the next Halloween... which was a common theme in these movies. So who really knows. Seems like his damage soak had increased from No. 1 to no. 2... No. 1 bullets send him flying for a temp KO... In the next movie.. he tanks two bullets to his head and he wasn't even temp KO'd.

I guess I'll stick with my original stance... Old Michael wins... new Michael loses

Yeah, old Michael developed stupid durability as the movies continued, from what IRC, more so than a Magnum alone can overcome. But new Michael can at least be downed for quite a long time (and the period between him being moved from the house and the ambulance hitting the cow should definitely be long enough to count as a forum win), if not actually killed, by a few rounds to the face.

Mindset
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
I don't see Rick with a revolver doing any better than Loomis with a revolver. Once he's out of bullets Myers will take him with relative ease. I don't remember MM ever being shot in the head, I remember him getting put down after getting his head cut off though.

Rick would blow his phucking head off.

Genesis-Soldier
guys it really is depending on the michael, old michael wins even if you try considering incapacitation rules here. mike took in shot gun blasts and pistol shots in the originals. the new mikey boy kill em just dies pathetically from head shots and decap

marvelmadness13
Originally posted by Mindset
I don't remember MM ever being shot in the head, I remember him getting put down after getting his head cut off though.

Rick would blow his phucking head off.


Laurie shoots him twice in the head with a revolver at the end of Halloween 2 and he doesn't even fall down. She then blows him up right after and it still doesn't kill him, though being blown up does incapacitate him enough to count as a forum win.

Mindset
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
Laurie shoots him twice in the head with a revolver at the end of Halloween 2 and he doesn't even fall down. She then blows him up right after and it still doesn't kill him, though being blown up does incapacitate him enough to count as a forum win. Been awhile, so I guess I forgot that, I know the police shooting him up almost killed him.

Anyway, a .44 magnum would take his head off which is enough to take him down.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Loomus was using a S&W model 15... which was a .38 Caliber gun... Not as much damage, but relatively close when it comes to those guns. Michael took 2 bullets straight through the eyes and wasn't even knocked down and kept on coming. I don't think a .44 is going put him down long enough, let alone "take his head off"

Mindset
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Loomus was using a S&W model 15... which was a .38 Caliber gun... Not as much damage, but relatively close when it comes to those guns. Michael took 2 bullets straight through the eyes and wasn't even knocked down and kept on coming. I don't think a .44 is going put him down long enough, let alone "take his head off" An axe took his head off.

marvelmadness13
Originally posted by Mindset
An axe took his head off.


As much as I hate to talk about Busta Rhymes Halloween Adventure, canonically that's not Michael. As far as gun resistance feats go he tanked two rounds to the head with no slowing down, and then when the posse unloaded a dozen guns into him and knocked him down a mineshaft he came back no worse for wear. Rick can't stop him.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Mindset
An axe took his head off.

I believe you're talking about H20... In which case, that wasn't even Michael who got his head taken off with an axe.. that was the paramedic who a Myers mask on.

Mindset
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
As much as I hate to talk about Busta Rhymes Halloween Adventure, canonically that's not Michael. As far as gun resistance feats go he tanked two rounds to the head with no slowing down, and then when the posse unloaded a dozen guns into him and knocked him down a mineshaft he came back no worse for wear. Rick can't stop him. I thought Resurrection was noncanon? Bullets to the chest have momentarily taken him out. He was near death when he fell down the mineshaft.

If Resurrection is canon then Rick takes him out. Rick > Busta Rhymes

Mindset
Just looked it up, apparently, 4,5, and 6 aren't canon.

So not sure where that leaves him with feats. He has taken bullets to the eyes and been fine, but knocked out from less. erm

KuRuPT Thanosi
Where does it say 4, 5 and 6 aren't canon? That confuses me some. I would thought No. 3 wasn't canon since it essentially was all about a factory making Halloween masks and nothing about Myers really.

Mindset
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Where does it say 4, 5 and 6 aren't canon? That confuses me some. I would thought No. 3 wasn't canon since it essentially was all about a factory making Halloween masks and nothing about Myers really. 4, 5, and 6 aren't canon because H20 and Resurrection are.

Michael hadn't been heard from in 20 years after Halloween 2, then the events of H20 happened. So 4, 5, and 6 never occurred.

marvelmadness13
H20 and Resurrection can be considered a different time line than 4, 5, and 6 but both series are considered valid sequels to H1 and 2. H3 is off in its own world. I addressed feats from both as events from both were brought up, those being the posse shoot out and axe decapitation.

As far as feats go you can use either time line legitimately but even based on the first 2 Halloween movies Rick isn't going to stop Michael, especially with no prep and 6 rounds. I thought the gun Laurie shot him with was a .357, but even if it was the less powerful .38 special one round at that range should have blown the back of his skull out and two rounds didn't even manage to make a single exit wound. A .44 is more powerful but with that kind of durability it's not going to put him down.

Mindset
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
H20 and Resurrection can be considered a different time line than 4, 5, and 6 but both series are considered valid sequels to H1 and 2. H3 is off in its own world. I addressed feats from both as events from both were brought up, those being the posse shoot out and axe decapitation.

As far as feats go you can use either time line legitimately but even based on the first 2 Halloween movies Rick isn't going to stop Michael, especially with no prep and 6 rounds. I thought the gun Laurie shot him with was a .357, but even if it was the less powerful .38 special one round at that range should have blown the back of his skull out and two rounds didn't even manage to make a single exit wound. A .44 is more powerful but with that kind of durability it's not going to put him down.

And yet and knife to the shoulder and falling ~20 feet knocked him out for a long time.

Loomis has put him down twice with bullets, both times with 6 shots iirc. Rick has more than 6 rounds.

marvelmadness13
Loomis shot him six times and knocked him out of a second story window and in the time it took him to go to the window and look down Michael was up and gone. I'm not aware of any .44 that holds more than 6 rounds, in fact a lot of them only hold 5, but even if we go with something bigger that holds 6 Michael won't let him reload. After tanking all the rounds he'll have Rick stabbed or sliced before he can get more rounds in the chambers.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Mindset
And yet and knife to the shoulder and falling ~20 feet knocked him out for a long time.

Loomis has put him down twice with bullets, both times with 6 shots iirc. Rick has more than 6 rounds. but it didn't put him down long enough to count as a forum win either time. The first one is debatable as it might have barely been 30 seconds... but even then it was close. The first time Loomus shots him in No. 2 and "puts him down" it was likely he wasn't even that hurt. Loomus even comments that he's not dead... he's breathing as the cop walks over to him. Clearly he wasn't hurt that bad, and was likely playing more possum that anything else. Even if we say he wasn't, he wasn't done longer than 30 seconds anyways.

Yet his durability obviously got stronger in the very same movie... the next time he was shot.. through both eyes with the same gun.. it didn't even put him down for temp KO or even knock him down.

Which brings up another point... I could easily see Rick going up to him to finish him off with a few more bullets to the head.. and promptly getting stomped in the process. Rick has a tendency to do this.. and that would be a fatal mistake.

Mindset
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
Loomis shot him six times and knocked him out of a second story window and in the time it took him to go to the window and look down Michael was up and gone. I'm not aware of any .44 that holds more than 6 rounds, in fact a lot of them only hold 5, but even if we go with something bigger that holds 6 Michael won't let him reload. After tanking all the rounds he'll have Rick stabbed or sliced before he can get more rounds in the chambers. That was one time, what about the others I mentioned?

Rick won't stand still while reloading, he's faster than Meyers.

marvelmadness13
So how many rounds are we giving Rick? He's not gonna have a ton on him in this scenario. In fact given the scenario he'd see Michael wearing a mask, using a knife and deliberately killing people so he'd know it wasn't a walker and wouldn't go for a head shot first. Rick in character would shoot to wound so he could get information like who sent Michael and how many others there were in his group.

By the time Rick realizes this is no ordinary man after the first six rounds don't even slow him down he's got a knife in his chest. Heck even with 24 rounds I don't see Rick winning this. Mikey is a tank and Rick doesn't have what it takes to stop him, he's survived much more than a single man with a .44.

Mindset
Rick usually goes for a headshot regardless.

I'm not sure what Rick you're talking about, but the one in TWD would dome Michael without hesitation.

Lorie beat Michael with a knife. Loomis beat Michael with a handgun.

KingD19
Also basic knowledge of your opponent and all that.

marvelmadness13
Originally posted by Mindset
Rick usually goes for a headshot regardless.

I'm not sure what Rick you're talking about, but the one in TWD would dome Michael without hesitation.

Lorie beat Michael with a knife. Loomis beat Michael with a handgun.

Rick would not just kill his only lead on a possible group of bandits or murderers outside of Alexandria. He'd want to take him alive to get info before offing him. Even if he's going for the kill from the start he can't stop Mikey.

Laurie didn't beat him with a knife, he played dead. Loomis unloaded all six rounds of .357 into his heart and he fell out a window and got up and walked away almost immediately. Laurie shot him point blank I'm the head twice and it didn't even slow him down. The bullets couldn't even exit the back of his skull he's so durable. Right after this he gets blown up and shrugs it off after a while. It's gonna take more than just Rick with a revolver to stop him. All of Alexandria gunning him down may not even be able to as Halloween 4 showed.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Mindset
Just looked it up, apparently, 4,5, and 6 aren't canon.

So not sure where that leaves him with feats. He has taken bullets to the eyes and been fine, but knocked out from less. erm I just looked this up as well and it did act like this was a retcon although id need to hear an official stance to be sure.

KingD19
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
Rick would not just kill his only lead on a possible group of bandits or murderers outside of Alexandria. He'd want to take him alive to get info before offing him. Even if he's going for the kill from the start he can't stop Mikey.

Laurie didn't beat him with a knife, he played dead. Loomis unloaded all six rounds of .357 into his heart and he fell out a window and got up and walked away almost immediately. Laurie shot him point blank I'm the head twice and it didn't even slow him down. The bullets couldn't even exit the back of his skull he's so durable. Right after this he gets blown up and shrugs it off after a while. It's gonna take more than just Rick with a revolver to stop him. All of Alexandria gunning him down may not even be able to as Halloween 4 showed.

Rick had basic knowledge of him. So he knows what he is and things like that. He has nothing to do with Alexandria, and neither does this fight. That's just the location.

Mindset
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
Rick would not just kill his only lead on a possible group of bandits or murderers outside of Alexandria. He'd want to take him alive to get info before offing him. Even if he's going for the kill from the start he can't stop Mikey.

Laurie didn't beat him with a knife, he played dead. Loomis unloaded all six rounds of .357 into his heart and he fell out a window and got up and walked away almost immediately. Laurie shot him point blank I'm the head twice and it didn't even slow him down. The bullets couldn't even exit the back of his skull he's so durable. Right after this he gets blown up and shrugs it off after a while. It's gonna take more than just Rick with a revolver to stop him. All of Alexandria gunning him down may not even be able to as Halloween 4 showed. Rick doesn't question people, he kills them.

How do you know if he was playing dead or knocked out? Why would he play dead if he could have gone after her?

I'm talking about the time Loomis shot him in the hospital.

When he was gunned down in Halloween 4 he was near death, it showed that in H5.

marvelmadness13
Originally posted by Mindset


How do you know if he was playing dead or knocked out? Why would he play dead if he could have gone after her?

I'm talking about the time Loomis shot him in the hospital.

When he was gunned down in Halloween 4 he was near death, it showed that in H5.

He wouldn't tank 6 rounds of .357 to the heart and a 20 foot fall no problem if a single stab could put him down that long. That's the only thing that makes sense, and it's not like it's something he doesn't do often.

I can't remember that part, but I do know that Laurie didn't even phase him with 2 rounds to the brain and that Mikey's skull was too tough to allow an exit wound.


Near death and dead aren't synonymous though. The point is if 12 guys with automatic 12 gauge shotguns can't kill Michael then Rick with a revolver definitely can't.

Mindset
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
He wouldn't tank 6 rounds of .357 to the heart and a 20 foot fall no problem if a single stab could put him down that long. That's the only thing that makes sense, and it's not like it's something he doesn't do often.

I can't remember that part, but I do know that Laurie didn't even phase him with 2 rounds to the brain and that Mikey's skull was too tough to allow an exit wound.


Near death and dead aren't synonymous though. The point is if 12 guys with automatic 12 gauge shotguns can't kill Michael then Rick with a revolver definitely can't. Why would he pretend to be ko'd when 1 second before he was actively trying to kill her? He was obviously knocked out in this scene.

zti_EN8CyRk

That is his highest durability showing, every other showing is lower, his average is lower.

Neat, I never said he was dead. However, he was so hurt that he went into a coma and had to be nursed back to health over months iirc. If Rick keeps unloading into his skull then cuts his head off he can. Rick doesn't need to kill him anyway.

marvelmadness13
If one can survive multiple powerful rounds being emptied into my head and chest, falls, explosions, etc, then it makes more sense that one is playing dead after a single stab, especially as in this case the person is known to do that.

Michael has multiple feats showing that a guy with a gun can't stop him, Rick has no ability to survive the multiple stabbings and slashing Michael can give him. He's got no chance here.

Mindset
He had no reason to pretend to be knocked out.

He was knocked out.

Myers has multiple showings of being put down by guns and knives.

Rick won't be stabbed multiple times. If Ll Cool J, Paul Rudd, and Busta Rhymes can fight Michael and survive, Rick can as well. thumb up

marvelmadness13
Rick's only weapon is something Michael in his earliest showings tanked without even being slowed down. Rick is not immune to being stabbed or having his skull crushed. Rick loses.

Mindset
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
Rick's only weapon is something Michael in his earliest showings tanked without even being slowed down. Rick is not immune to being stabbed or having his skull crushed. Rick loses. I see you won't admit to the truth, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Good thread. thumb up

marvelmadness13
If you're going to try to use low showings and trying to say an obvious feigning if death was a defeat then I suppose we will.

Definitely a good thread though.

Genesis-Soldier
yeah bullet to the eyes would cause more trauma, regardless of calibre in most senses

nopt sure if rick is good with that machete thou

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Mindset
He had no reason to pretend to be knocked out.

He was knocked out.

Myers has multiple showings of being put down by guns and knives.

Rick won't be stabbed multiple times. If Ll Cool J, Paul Rudd, and Busta Rhymes can fight Michael and survive, Rick can as well. thumb up


That's just it though... He has EVERY reason to play dead. Think about it... What would you do in that situation? If you're in a fight... and the guy pulls at a gun and shots you... Do you keep trucking forward or do you fall and play dead? Why would Michael just want to keep enduring bullets if he can make them believe he's dead. You ask why, and I refer you to common sense.

Next, not only would it make sense to end the barrage you're receiving.. this tactic WORKS for drawing your target closer to you. Not only has it worked for Michael over and over but it works for most force of nature killers in movies. It builds suspense, drama and actually WORKS. You can call the people stupid for going up close to Michael or Jason or whoever, but he reality is, for whatever reason they do.

In fact, in the very hospital scene you mention, Loomus states no he's not dead.. he's still breathing.. stay away from him. It made sense for Michael for play possum there. Loomus had a gun, the cop had a gun... why would he continue to fight throw that when he could just play dead. In horror movies, playing dead seems to draw your target close to you to check on you (is this crazy force of nature actually dead.. FNIALLY) or it makes them believe you're dead and lower your guard. See the scene with Laurie when she stabs him or other countless scenes in horror movies... They relax... think he's dead... only for him to come up from behind or appear again when they least expect it. This is common .

Lastly, it seemed pretty clear to me that Michael's durability increased as Halloween one and two continued. Clearly it did, and we can see the feats that support that theory.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit I was right when I said which Myers makes the difference. You're such a follower.

You're lying again, not surprised. KurptThanosi was the first to point the obvious that out that classic Myers would win here, 11th post on page 1.

You ranted about Myers being a zombie and other nonsense then just copied what KT said immediately after. Live in shame, loser.

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Robtard
Unless otherwise stated, we use characters from their latest showing. So this is human Michael and not force-of-nature Michael from the originals.


It should be noted, however, the supernatural, Myers was stopped before using only guns.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
It should be noted, however, the supernatural, Myers was stopped before using only guns.

In which movie?

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
In which movie?


I'm not current on my Halloween trivia but i know that he has been incapacitated/killed in several movies. I know for sure there are at least two instances when he was neutralized at the end with guns. Lumis killed, Myers at the end of Halloween 2 with his revolver. I forget which other installment it was, i think it was 4 but a mob of several people killed him with gunfire.

Regardless of what can or can't kill/incapacitate Myers, it's obvious that it doesn't take much. If gunfire doesn't have fatal affects on him it always proves to slow him down or temporarily knock him out, which would give Rick time to decapitate him.

Other ways i remember Myers being dispatched in the movies, is strangling/hanging, stabbing, fire and electrocution.

marvelmadness13
Loomis didn't stop Michael in Halloween 2 with a revolver, he stopped him by blowing him up with ether and oxygen in an enclosed room. Right before this Laurie shoots him in the head twice at point blank range and not only does Michael not even slow down, the bullets can't even pierce the back of his skull.

In Halloween 4 12ish guys with powerful weapons including military grade automatic shotguns unloaded hundreds of rounds into him and then knocked him down a mine shaft. This incapacitated him but still didn't kill him

Michael's gun durability is insane.

Estacado
Rick bites his head off.

Mindset
Originally posted by Estacado
Rick bites his head off. thumb up

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I'm not current on my Halloween trivia but i know that he has been incapacitated/killed in several movies. I know for sure there are at least two instances when he was neutralized at the end with guns. Lumis killed, Myers at the end of Halloween 2 with his revolver. I forget which other installment it was, i think it was 4 but a mob of several people killed him with gunfire.

Regardless of what can or can't kill/incapacitate Myers, it's obvious that it doesn't take much. If gunfire doesn't have fatal affects on him it always proves to slow him down or temporarily knock him out, which would give Rick time to decapitate him.

Other ways i remember Myers being dispatched in the movies, is strangling/hanging, stabbing, fire and electrocution.

It didn't even incapacitate long enough for a forum win in any of those sequences. In fact, Rick going up to Michael for the kill shot or beheading, plays right into Myers hands. That's what he does over and over again in movies. That is precisely what I think would happen if Myers was even put down.

Why I have doubts Rick could even put him down are the sequences you're referring to. Loomus shot Michael about 5 times in Halloween no. 1 out a 2 story window. He was up and gone in about 20 seconds or less.

In no. 2 he takes another 5 shots from Loomus and goes down. But again, and much like before, he's not dead only playing possum. When the cop comes close.. he dies, Then later Laurie unloads point blank shots into Michael's eyes and it doesn't even knock him down. This is why I don't think Rick can put him down, and even if he does, Michael win eventually get to him or draw him in close.

Mindset
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That's just it though... He has EVERY reason to play dead. Think about it... What would you do in that situation? If you're in a fight... and the guy pulls at a gun and shots you... Do you keep trucking forward or do you fall and play dead? Why would Michael just want to keep enduring bullets if he can make them believe he's dead. You ask why, and I refer you to common sense.

Next, not only would it make sense to end the barrage you're receiving.. this tactic WORKS for drawing your target closer to you. Not only has it worked for Michael over and over but it works for most force of nature killers in movies. It builds suspense, drama and actually WORKS. You can call the people stupid for going up close to Michael or Jason or whoever, but he reality is, for whatever reason they do.

In fact, in the very hospital scene you mention, Loomus states no he's not dead.. he's still breathing.. stay away from him. It made sense for Michael for play possum there. Loomus had a gun, the cop had a gun... why would he continue to fight throw that when he could just play dead. In horror movies, playing dead seems to draw your target close to you to check on you (is this crazy force of nature actually dead.. FNIALLY) or it makes them believe you're dead and lower your guard. See the scene with Laurie when she stabs him or other countless scenes in horror movies... They relax... think he's dead... only for him to come up from behind or appear again when they least expect it. This is common .

Lastly, it seemed pretty clear to me that Michael's durability increased as Halloween one and two continued. Clearly it did, and we can see the feats that support that theory. You aren't even talking about the right scene.

I posted the scene I was talking about. erm

Genesis-Soldier
i just want to point out it is movie law that if you think you have killed the bad guy but see no major exit wounds or acceptable blood loss and walk up to him... he/ it/ she will get you

KingD19
Rick has been dealing with Walkers playing dead since season 1. That won't work on him.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Those walkers aren't Michael myers

KingD19
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Those walkers aren't Michael myers

No, but they do play dead just as good. There's plenty instances of them seeming dead until your ankle is in biting range.

Also, Rick isn't a dumbass like a lot of horror movie people.

KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm not saying he's a dumbass.. but none of the fodder walkers he's killed compare with Myers. They can't really be compared.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
You're lying again, not surprised. KurptThanosi was the first to point the obvious that out that classic Myers would win here, 11th post on page 1.

You ranted about Myers being a zombie and other nonsense then just copied what KT said immediately after. Live in shame, loser. False. I asked which Mysrs is what showing one wins and one loses. You aren't clever enough to deduce that because you're just a short, petty, venomous little yard gnome.

laughing out loud

KingD19
The only comparison I'm making is playing dead. Myers and zombies both do it, people fall for it all the time. Rick is not one of those people.

KuRuPT Thanosi
he does actually he has been shown to walk up to them numerous times to finish them off. Difference is, finishing off a fodder Walker isn't near the same as finishing off Myers. If Rick tried the same thing... he'd likely die.

Genesis-Soldier
decap would cause a stale mate here

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
yeah bullet to the eyes would cause more trauma, regardless of calibre in most senses

nopt sure if rick is good with that machete thou


Doesnt, matter, he's been KO'ed by less.

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier

nopt sure if rick is good with that machete thou


I'm sure, Rick is good at raising a sharp object high in the air and delivering it to it's intended severing zone. At least, this is considering that he can rally an entire rag-tag team of survivalists together and lead them too months and years of survival against an evil dead entity, which he's proved he's more than capable of doing many times over.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Again, he can't put down original myers, which means he'll go down at some point. New myers gets stomped though

Adam Grimes
He can, Rick wins.

michaelx
Classic Myers and Myers with Thorn Curse would stomp this fool.

Zombie Myers goes down IMO

Mindset
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
He can, Rick wins. thumb up

Time-Immemorial
Little dick wins

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