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No prep. Who wins?

Cap

Cap 10/10

Daredevil every time

Have these two never met in comics? Very surprising.

Originally posted by deathslash
Daredevil every time

Starting the day off with a joke, huh?

Originally posted by Star428
Sorry if this has been done before.


No prep. Who wins?

It's been done to the death.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Have these two never met in comics? Very surprising.

Sarcasm detector exploded.

Originally posted by KingD19
Starting the day off with a joke, huh? not specified so we have to go with the current captain america. Sam Wilson gets wrecked.

Cap

Originally posted by deathslash
not specified so we have to go with the current captain america. Sam Wilson gets wrecked.



Sorry, didn't realize that there was a new Captain America. Meant for it to be Rogers in this matchup.

Cap slim majority....he has a shield.

Originally posted by Star428
Sorry, didn't realize that there was a new Captain America. Meant for it to be Rogers in this matchup. it's ok. If it's rogers, then I give him 6-7/10.

Id give Cap the win over DD around 8/9 out of 10. Daredevil is good, very good, but hes not in Caps league, IMO.

Daredevil. 10/10.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Have these two never met in comics? Very surprising.

Yes they have, quite a few times.
Based on showings it actually an even split/Stalemate.
Some might argue (not me/ DD fanboy) that a few of Matt's wins had some PIS

Even split

Steve 6-7/10. He's going to take some lumps.

I did a breakdown of this recently on another forum (Herochat) with scans of every fight they've had etc, so if anyone hasn't seen their various fights, they can all be seen in chronological order here:
http://herochat.com/index.php?topic=6820.msg134364#msg134364

***Apologies for linking to another board (I'm not sure what the rules are on that front). I was trying to repost all those scans here, but it can be a serious pain in the arse to do posts like that on this forum. First the character count and then the limit on image numbers made it more trouble than it was worth to transfer the post over to here.***


Back on topic - based on their shared history, about the best you could make a serious argument for is 6/10 either way. They are peers, give or take a bit. Either can beat the other depending on how the circumstances stack up on any given day.


Cheers.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Cap slim majority....he has a shield.

The shield has historically been a non-factor against Daredevil. In fact, Matt has casually disarmed Cap no fewer than five times by my count. In three of those cases, Matt was the one who ended up using the shield as a weapon.


Cheers.

Originally posted by LGU
The shield has historically been a non-factor against Daredevil.

Not exactly true. Matt did hurt his hand on it in their first fight.

Originally posted by Stoic
Steve 6-7/10. He's going to take some lumps.

I don't know who is taking this. Cap is physically stronger whereas DD is more agile. Cap has a slight edge in fighting combat whereas DD has his radar. I'm undecided. If I had to choose I would say Cap.

Cap because of his near unlimited stamina, but it's really close.

Originally posted by carver9
DD is more agile.

Any particular physical feat of Agility that you feel is beyond Steve Rogers?



Steve Every time. Takes his lumps every time.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Any particular physical feat of Agility that you feel is beyond Steve Rogers?

Matt is more agile. He does the billy club cable swinging all the time, mimicking Spider-Man's web-swinging, almost...

Super sense of balance > Steve's SSS-enhanced sense.

Taskmaster chooses to use DD moves specifically while doing acrobatics - sometimes mixing in Spider-Man.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Matt is more agile. He does the billy club cable swinging all the time, mimicking Spider-Man's web-swinging, almost...

Super sense of balance > Steve's SSS-enhanced sense.

Taskmaster chooses to use DD moves specifically while doing acrobatics - sometimes mixing in Spider-Man.

Steve doesn't have a billy club. But in your opinion Daredevil swinging from one building to another, with a device created for swinging from one building to another is a physical Feat BEYOND anytning Steve Rogers is capable of?

Is everyone here under the impression that the SSS was simply limited to a strength and durability boost? As for your taskmaster reference, its been made clear that copying moves from beings physically beyond himself taxes him more. He can emulate Spiderman for agility, but it makes perfect sense to pick a lesser being like DD, this stands to reason otherwise Taskmaster would just replicate somene like Cap (who sits between DD and Spider-man) all the time.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Steve doesn't have a billy club. But in your opinion Daredevil swinging from one building to another, with a device created for swinging from one building to another is a physical Feat BEYOND anytning Steve Rogers is capable of?

Is everyone here under the impression that the SSS was simply limited to a strength and durability boost? As for your taskmaster reference, its been made clear that copying moves from beings physically beyond himself taxes him more. He can emulate Spiderman for agility, but it makes perfect sense to pick a lesser being like DD, this stands to reason otherwise Taskmaster would just replicate somene like Cap (who sits between DD and Spider-man) all the time.
Daredevil actually uses acrobatic moves against Cap.

Cap just goes punch-punch route.

Tell me, who looks more agile here.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008a_zpszucsciae.jpg http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008b_zpsto6t190g.jpg http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008c_zpsju4apjgm.jpg http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008d_zps4bnniofe.jpg http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008e_zpswuwq3nup.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008f_zps2ffmhrlp.jpg http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008g_zps9kngqnjk.jpg http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008h_zpsbaqlixro.jpg http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008i_zpswdwvrpgn.jpg http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/DDvsCap/th_009-DeadOnArrival-2008j_zpse61vzljx.jpg

Cap flat out States that Daredevil has lost his edge against him but he still stalemated him.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Any particular physical feat of Agility that you feel is beyond Steve Rogers?



Steve Every time. Takes his lumps every time.

Nonsense. Cap takes 6/10 here. Daredevil has knocked him out in one attack before.

http://s1007.photobucket.com/user/lgu88/media/DDvsCap/003-Daredevil-v1-155b_zpsxc33jt3m.jpg.html
http://s1007.photobucket.com/user/lgu88/media/DDvsCap/003-Daredevil-v1-155c_zpsolvlpohe.jpg.html

He has looked competitive in all five fights they have and has a clean win against him. To think he can't win a single fight here? Nonsense.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Steve doesn't have a billy club. But in your opinion Daredevil swinging from one building to another, with a device created for swinging from one building to another is a physical Feat BEYOND anytning Steve Rogers is capable of?

Is everyone here under the impression that the SSS was simply limited to a strength and durability boost? As for your taskmaster reference, its been made clear that copying moves from beings physically beyond himself taxes him more. He can emulate Spiderman for agility, but it makes perfect sense to pick a lesser being like DD, this stands to reason otherwise Taskmaster would just replicate somene like Cap (who sits between DD and Spider-man) all the time.

It's not beyond Steve's ability, but it's the stuff Daredevil does everyday and with ridiculous ease - showcasing superior agility. We can't just ignore Daredevil having those feats.

Of course it's not limited to str and dur.

Taskmaster has the certain limit when it comes to mimicking super-speed, but Steve's moves were never too much for him to replicate. He just knows who the better acrobat is. Daredevil's ninja training also focuses more about using agility than Steve's/Bucky's.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's not beyond Steve's ability, but it's the stuff Daredevil does everyday and with ridiculous ease..

This is the Wolverine/Batman argument. The one that says Wolverine doesn't have as much martial skill as batman, because Wolverine doesn't have to RELY on pure h2h skill. And it's nonsense, because we know for a fact wolverine knows every martial art on the planet.

Cap, as agile as he is, doesn't have to rely on superior agility to get his job done. There has never been an instance where we see a "damn if only I was as agile as Daredevil I would have made it out of that."

It's crazy talk. There is no physical category where daredevil is above Cap. Including agility, just because daredevil relies on it more.

maybe im wrong, maybe I'm assuming that through Caps stats, it's illogical - to me - that the following people can achieve something physically , that Cap COULD NOT replicate;

DD
Batman
Nightwing
Punisher
Anyone human non enhanced basically. Meh, I suppose im arguing power sets over feats, my bad. Still Cap every time, hard wins every time.

Daredevil's power enhances his agility in a way Captain's SSS doesn't. We need to remember about that.

Matt also did mention that while Steve had the raw speed advantage, he was somewhat clumsy in Born Again - basically giving us the idea who is more agile between the two.

As for the fight itself, they're pretty damn even, as comics show. Cap did beat him in Streets of Poison, but Matt was rusty and recovering from his experience with Mephisto. Daredevil did handle Cap quick when he attacked the Avengers, but Steve had no idea whom he was facing. Other fights are stalemates, one time Murdock ended up with wielding both his billy club and Steve's shield even...