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Is there anyone in the mythos that has better Soresu then Kenobi's?

Yes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes.

Not Zannah's lmfao

Possibly Palpatine / Yoda, but other than that, nah.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Possibly Palpatine / Yoda, but other than that, nah. Yoda's should be better, Palpatine though...

Yoda is a better duelist then Palpatine IMO.

Luke

lol @ Yoda when they flat out say that Kenobi is the best Soresu user of the time.

Luminara, Gnost-Dural, Galen Marek, Grievous, Proxy and Bossk

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
lol @ Yoda when they flat out say that Kenobi is the best Soresu user of the time.
Flat out as in Mace Windu? Stop embarrassing yourself, kek

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Flat out as in Mace Windu? Stop embarrassing yourself, kek

I'd take Windu's opinion over yours any day everyday. Actually I'd take anyone's opinion over yours, except Legend's.

Originally posted by ILS
Luminara, Gnost-Dural, Galen Marek, Grievous, Proxy and Bossk


****INGG LOL!!!!

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I'd take Windu's opinion over yours any day everyday. Actually I'd take anyone's opinion over yours, except Legend's.
Given Yoda is a potentially greater swordsmaster than Palpatine and had 800+ years of refining his bladework, your outright denial of the possibility is laughable.

Your bias against me is acknowledged, just know the feeling is mutual to where mine is actually supported by retarded comments of yours while your hatred toward me is simply that you don't like people being mean to you when you're stupid.

I'm not really sure why you think insulting me here will do anything for you. This forum is my domain - and given everyone already thinks your joke - you aren't helping your chances of having prospective allies except maybe Nephthys.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Given Yoda is a potentially greater swordsmaster than Palpatine and had 800+ years of refining his bladework, your outright denial of the possibility is laughable.
And Luke beat Vader with 4 years of training. Until you have any proof Windu's assessment stands, even more so because he has extensive knowledge of both of them.
Your bias against me is acknowledged, just know the feeling is mutual to where mine is actually supported by retarded comments of yours while your hatred toward me is simply that you don't like people being mean to you when you're stupid.
And you are simply a dick to anyone who doesn't suck up to your OR wanking. Not to mention it was you who started insulting me first, not just in this thread, but in general, so I'm not sure why are you surprised that I don't treat you as my BFF. You are by far the most obnoxious debater I've met so you might want to dial back a bit from the hostility.
I'm not really sure why you think insulting me here will do anything for you. This forum is my domain - and given everyone already thinks your joke - you aren't helping your chances of having prospective allies except maybe Nephthys.
Like I care.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Given Yoda is a potentially greater swordsmaster than Palpatine and had 800+ years of refining his bladework, your outright denial of the possibility is laughable.

Your bias against me is acknowledged, just know the feeling is mutual to where mine is actually supported by retarded comments of yours while your hatred toward me is simply that you don't like people being mean to you when you're stupid.

I'm not really sure why you think insulting me here will do anything for you. This forum is my domain - and given everyone already thinks your joke - you aren't helping your chances of having prospective allies except maybe Nephthys. Windu's opinion is better then any of our Opinion's though.

Seeing as Mace thought that Yoda was above him, and accepted that as fact, Mace saying that is pretty damn convincing.

I like your title, Ant.

Originally posted by Sinious
I like your title, Ant. YOU SON OF A *****!

I'm sorry. I propose we go out for Pizza, then go back to my place for some hardcore action.

Lol what the actual f**k dude

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
And Luke beat Vader with 4 years of training. Until you have any proof Windu's assessment stands, even more so because he has extensive knowledge of both of them.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Windu's opinion is better then any of our Opinion's though.
kek @ using Skywalker as an example of proper power and skill progression, or that there weren't a host of circumstances surrounding that fight

Is it truly? He has past claims that Depa is just as / more skilled than him, that Skywalker is more powerful than Yoda, that Kenobi is greater than him, etc. etc.



1.) It's not "obnoxious" to say I'm better than you. It's fact.

2.) If I'm "wanking" a lot, feel free to try to correct me, since you can't.

Either way, Obi-Wan is the best IMO.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
kek @ using Skywalker as an example of proper power and skill progression, or that there weren't a host of circumstances surrounding that fight

Is it truly? He has past claims that Depa is just as / more skilled than him, that Skywalker is more powerful than Yoda, that Kenobi is greater than him, etc. etc.



1.) It's not "obnoxious" to say I'm better than you. It's fact.

2.) If I'm "wanking" a lot, feel free to try to correct me, since you can't. Did he say that Depa is more skilled then him, or that they would be?

Everyone in the order claims that Skywalker would eventually become more powerful then Yoda, including Sidious.

Kenobi being just as skilled as him is debateable.

They're comparable as a whole.

Mace edges him out, but not by all that much.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
1.) It's not "obnoxious" to say I'm better than you. It's fact.

In what? Debating? Don't make me laugh, all you do is insult people until they grew tired of it then they leave.

You deny my superiority over you?

lolwut

KK, let's do a debate.

Pick a character to go against Revan / Krayt / etc., so I can beat you.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Did he say that Depa is more skilled then him, or that they would be?

Everyone in the order claims that Skywalker would eventually become more powerful then Yoda, including Sidious.

Kenobi being just as skilled as him is debateable.

They're comparable as a whole.
The former.

He was referring to that moment, though it's note he said something along the lines of "possibly," IIRC.

Sure.

Guys, chill with the arguments before Ushgarak comes in here and shuts us down.

kek

On topic: Probably nobody. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of better duelists, but neither specialized in Soresu.

Take Yoda for example. He's a master of all 7 lightsaber forms, and the best duelist during the PT era. Yet that doesn't mean he's better than everyone with every form.
True enough Fisto was stated to be the best Form I user, Dooku was stated the be the best Form II user, Kenobi the best Form III user, Anakin the best Form V user etc. Yoda is better than either of them, but not in their respective form, but with his own Ataru mastery.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
In what? Debating? Don't make me laugh, all you do is insult people until they grew tired of it then they leave.

He is better though. More proven.

But take him up on his offer and prove yourself.

Nah, respond to my post. I genuinely want to debate you now given you think you're some big-shot, kek

I would prefer to debate with Revan for optimum pwnage, but any character should suffice against you, kek

I have zero interest debating with you. If I wanted to be insulted at every turn I would go to Harlem and shout n*****. The outcome would probably be more pleasant as well.

Originally posted by Aurbere
He is better though. More proven.

But take him up on his offer and prove yourself.

Time to an Aurbere.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I have zero interest debating with you. If I wanted to be insulted at every turn I would go to Harlem and shout n*****. The outcome would probably be more pleasant as well.
Concession accepted on every topic we have ever disagreed on, and reported for racism.

Mark my words, Ushgarak is gonna rain down a shitstorm upon us.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Time to an Aurbere.
What?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Concession accepted on every topic we have ever disagreed on, and reported for racism.

Congratualtions on your newest marvelous victory won through your insufferable manners.

You must be proud to be such an awful human being that nobody wants to debate with you.

>"nobody"
>"cs_zoltan"

I could make a joke but it's so obvious and kekworthy it's not needed.

For the record I didn't get 12K posts and another like 2K on CV by not debating with people.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
What?

It spoonerism, KEK. It means to an hero. bro. A jab at my slave-worthy friend, Aurbere.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
>"nobody"
>"cs_zoltan"

I could make a joke but it's so obvious and kekworthy it's not needed.

For the record I didn't get 12K posts and another like 2K on CV by not debating with people. To be fair, you're both being equally childish. It's embarrassing particularly on your part, Ant.

If you guys are gonna debate, then debate. But insulting each other isn't a debate.

Well that one was a classic jest, so yes indeed.

Doesn't mean it wasn't funny or semi kekworthy though.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
It spoonerism, KEK. It means to an hero. bro. A jab at my slave-worthy friend, Aurbere. I didn't realize people still used that.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
I didn't realize people still used that.

They shouldn't. But I talk to a lot of weirdo's, and shit kinda rubbed off on me. For better, or worse.

No one that I can think of has better Soresu than Kenobi.

Darth Zannah?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Darth Zannah?
Ew.

Gaaaaaaaay.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Gaaaaaaaay.

I know right? Darth Zannah being equal to Kenobi in Soresu certainly is gay.

Rain held off Bane; feats for Kenobi that supersedes this, pls.

Holding off Maul, Grievous, Vader i,e duelists that don't suck like Bane?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Rain held off Bane; feats for Kenobi that supersedes this, pls. Bane being above Kenobi in sabers is supported by...?

Also, Bane is known for his force abilities, not his Saber Skills.

LAL Bane is better than all those duelist.
Try again, Cart.

I forgot how many highly skilled duelists Kas'im and Darth Zannah beat.

****.

How many was it? Oh yeah, zero

KEK @ Seth Harth not being skilled. The dude learned highly complex Force powers like Essence Transfer - I doubt he's bad with a blade, given his MAD Force potential elsewhere. And Kas'im was prolly the best duelist in the Brotherhood of Darkness.

Try again, Carth. Zannah > Kenobi; Bane > Anakin.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
KEK @ Seth Harth not being skilled. The dude learned highly complex Force powers like Essence Transfer - I doubt he's bad with a blade, given his MAD Force potential elsewhere. And Kas'im was prolly the best duelist in the Brotherhood of Darkness.

Try again, Carth. Zannah > Kenobi; Bane > Anakin. All you've proven is... Well, nothing.

You haven't proven that Bane is better at all.

Btw, Anakin is a better duelist then Kenobi.

Set Harth the duelist who was a half trained Jedi knight with nothing other than beating thugs to his name . Also "MAD" force potential has **** all to do with his lightsaber skill, he's utterly featless and was getting tooled by an untrained Huntress. He's crap tier.

Also Kas'im has nothing to support being anywhere near Grievous, Anakin, Kenobi, Ventress or anyone Kenobi has fought.

Try again

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Bane being above Kenobi in sabers is supported by...?

Also, Bane is known for his force abilities, not his Saber Skills.

Bane being above Kenobi is supported by hype and feats.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Bane being above Kenobi is supported by hype and feats. Feats like?

Without using the force at all.

It's possible but I doubt it. I'd stick with Kenobi for right now.

Zannah is better than Kenobi in overall defensive effectiveness. Obi-Wan would get pwned by Bane. I doubt he'd have even survived Orb Bane's berserk assault which even RoT Zannah did.

That said, Obi-Wan is more of a duelist than her and has a more refined style. He's also more flexible. If you think that makes him a better Soresu duelist, knock yourself out.

Grievous > Bane in a lightsaber duel.

Ahahaha.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ahahaha.

Concession accepted.

Grievous stalemated Windu while having the environmental disadvantage. Bane's got nothing on him. At all.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Possibly Palpatine / Yoda, but other than that, nah.

Sidious almost never goes defensive, I bet that it's not one of his stronger forms- relatively speaking. And... hm, I'm not sure if it'd work for Yoda, but maybe.


Originally posted by cs_zoltan
On topic: Probably nobody. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of better duelists, but neither specialized in Soresu.

Take Yoda for example. He's a master of all 7 lightsaber forms, and the best duelist during the PT era. Yet that doesn't mean he's better than everyone with every form.
True enough Fisto was stated to be the best Form I user, Dooku was stated the be the best Form II user, Kenobi the best Form III user, Anakin the best Form V user etc. Yoda is better than either of them, but not in their respective form, but with his own Ataru mastery.

Agreed.