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Ok this one is based on the other Mjolnir thread and I want to see what people think

Mjolnir is lying on the ground with the handle upwards

Juggernaut is moving forward

While passing right besides Mjolnir Juggernaut decides to pick up the mallet can he do it or does his forward momentum gets stopped by Mjolnir?

Juggernaut is wearing an adamantium suit on the whole body so people don't say that Juggernaut will rip his arm off.

This is Classic Juggernaut BTW

I just have to say this thread is awesome.

Next thread...can Matter Eater Lad eat Mjolnir.....

In any case, depends on where you place Cyttorak against Odin....

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I just have to say this thread is awesome.

Thanks

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Next thread...can Matter Eater Lad eat Mjolnir.....

In any case, depends on where you place Cyttorak against Odin....

Actually Yes He will be able to eat it.

But do you think Mjolnir enchantment will prevail or does Juggernaut prevail?

He grabs it and knocks Hulk flat on his ass.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He grabs it and knocks Hulk flat on his ass.

and sodomizes Carver with it

The enchantment on Mjolnir should win against a regular Juggernaut getting his normal amount of power from Cyttorak. Cyttorak can amp Juggs enough to overpower it or break Mjolnir if he gives him enough juice and he should be more powerul than Odin. Dont think Ofin can " amp" an enchantment.

These two both have some inconsistent showings so hard to really debate.

Fun to think about tho

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Actually Yes He will be able to eat it.

But do you think Mjolnir enchantment will prevail or does Juggernaut prevail?

Well, the Godblast from Thor was enough to stop Juggy. Push him back, even:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsJuggernaut07.jpg

The Godblast is all of Thor's energies, concentrated in a blast.

Odin is >> Thor.

However, Odin was unable to even lift Mjolnir, despite focussing his might.

So Mjolnir wins.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Fun to think about tho

Juggernaut gets yanked back hard

Then his body breaks in half

OK so it seems Mjolnir enchantment is getting the nod by most of the posters however Juggernaut is winning the poll

So what will be the outcome if Cyttorak amps Juggernaut? Will he still fail or will he prevail?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, the Godblast from Thor was enough to stop Juggy. Push him back, even:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsJuggernaut07.jpg

The Godblast is all of Thor's energies, concentrated in a blast.

Odin is >> Thor.

However, Odin was unable to even lift Mjolnir, despite focussing his might.

So Mjolnir wins.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Next thread...can Matter Eater Lad eat Mjolnir.....

In any case, depends on where you place Cyttorak against Odin....

Matter Eater Lad would eat it without trouble.

As for the thread. Cyttorak is an Elder God, Odin is a Skyfather, I would bet on the enchantment of an Elder God to be stronger.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, the Godblast from Thor was enough to stop Juggy. Push him back, even:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsJuggernaut07.jpg

The Godblast is all of Thor's energies, concentrated in a blast.

Odin is >> Thor.

However, Odin was unable to even lift Mjolnir, despite focussing his might.

So Mjolnir wins.

Actually, the narration next panel said that Juggernaut "struggled to maintain" his forward momentum. Meaning, that he still could, albeit with some effort. Thus:

Juggernaut > All of Thor's energies = Godblast > Galactus > Odin = Mjolnir's enchantment.

==> Juggernaut wins.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96884/2218400-1440976_thor_vs_galactus_super.jpg

NArration said he was pushed backwards...?

Originally posted by Magnon
Actually, the narration next panel said that Juggernaut "struggled to maintain" his forward momentum. Meaning, that he still could, albeit with some effort. Thus:

Juggernaut > All of Thor's energies = Godblast > Galactus > Odin = Mjolnir's enchantment.

==> Juggernaut wins.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96884/2218400-1440976_thor_vs_galactus_super.jpg

What? Juggernaut was stopped and pushed back. He struggled and failed to move forward.

Thor didn't use all of his Godly energy.

Juggernaut > Being the God Blast is lol worthy based on the evidence. Saying he's > Galactus and Odin is just straight up loopy bro.

Incorrect.

Narrator: "...As unexpectedly feels himself being pushed BACKWARD!"
Juggernaut: "It ain't possible! Nothing can STOP me!!":
http://i.imgur.com/qJkUss0.jpg


"But, even as the ever determined Juggernaut strains to REGAIN his forward momentum...":
http://i.imgur.com/DpH6XYu.jpg
(not "maintain" like Magnon said.)


Full scene:
http://i.imgur.com/iqGyG2S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vbiK0DT.jpg


The Godblast stopped, and pushed back, Juggernaut. Mjolnir enchantment > Cytorrak enchantment.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
and sodomizes Carver with it



That was quick. Carv didn't even need to post here, lol.

Originally posted by Magnon
Actually, the narration next panel said that Juggernaut "struggled to maintain" his forward momentum. Meaning, that he still could, albeit with some effort. Thus:

Juggernaut > All of Thor's energies = Godblast > Galactus > Odin = Mjolnir's enchantment.

==> Juggernaut wins.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96884/2218400-1440976_thor_vs_galactus_super.jpg

Just because Odin is responsible for the mallet enchantment doesn't mean he is equal to it.

He couldn't lift it himself recently, right?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, the Godblast from Thor was enough to stop Juggy. Push him back, even:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsJuggernaut07.jpg

The Godblast is all of Thor's energies, concentrated in a blast.

Odin is >> Thor.

However, Odin was unable to even lift Mjolnir, despite focussing his might.

So Mjolnir wins. Without question the God blast >>>>>Odin's best blast. But in general Odin >>>>>Thor. Also you are equating energy blasts with physical strength (Odin trying to lift vs. Godblast).

And the enchantment is not Odin's direct power. It is a spell used (like Dr. Strange ), which is fueled by an outside source of power. Otherwise, Odin would have been able to lift Mjolnir.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
NArration said he was pushed backwards...?
Ah, right. I was looking at a poor quality scan. The follow-up didn't say he struggled to 'maintain' but to 'regain' his forward momentum. I.e. the power of Thor's attack initially took him by surprise and he had to put actual effort into matching the godblast.

It doesn't change the conclusion, though. Juggs did better vs. godblast than the likes of Galactus or Celestials.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsJuggernaut08.jpg~original

Originally posted by wuleecat
Just because Odin is responsible for the mallet enchantment doesn't mean he is equal to it.

He couldn't lift it himself recently, right?
Odin's physical strength isn't enough to overcome Mjolnir's enchantment but it wouldn't be enough to overcome Juggernaut's unstoppability, either.

My reply to DarkSaint85 was meant to outline the fault in his logic, where he concludes that Mjolnir > Odin >> Thor > Juggernaut thus Mjolnir wins. The fallacy lies in the fact that these "greater than" comparisons were made with respect to different qualities:

Mjolnir('unliftability') > Odin(physical strength)
Odin(magical/overall might) > Thor(magical/overall might)
Thor+Mjolnir(sum total might, VERY briefly) > Juggernaut(unstoppability, when he's not putting full effort in it)

Logically, these partial orders do not imply that Mjolnir('unliftability') > Juggernaut(unstoppability). Such a conclusion only results from ignoring the qualities which are used to make the comparisons, and the conclusion is thus invalid.

I demonstrated this in my post by constructing an equally valid chain of "greater than"'s, showing Juggernaut > Mjolnir.

Originally posted by h1a8
Without question the God blast >>>>>Odin's best blast. But in general Odin >>>>>Thor. Also you are equating energy blasts with physical strength (Odin trying to lift vs. Godblast).

And the enchantment is not Odin's direct power. It is a spell used (like Dr. Strange ), which is fueled by an outside source of power. Otherwise, Odin would have been able to lift Mjolnir.

Lol, no the God Blast is not more powerful than Odins best.

Can you please stop making up shit and spreading lies? The enchantment is powered directly by the Odin Force. We have seen its creation on more than one occasion with Odin directly empowering the hammer with his power.

Where the hell did you even come up with the Dr. Strange comparison? Odin can use sorcery but unlike Strange he is his own power source. Where have you see him invoke other entities?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, no the God Blast is not more powerful than Odins best.

Can you please stop making up shit and spreading lies? The enchantment is powered directly by the Odin Force. We have seen its creation on more than one occasion with Odin directly empowering the hammer with his power.

Where the hell did you even come up with the Dr. Strange comparison? Odin can use sorcery but unlike Strange he is his own power source. Where have you see him invoke other entities? OK, what single blast shown by Odin exceeds busting a Celestial dome (more durable than its outer armor)?

OK if Mjolnir is powered directly by Odin then why couldn't he lift Mjolnir? It seems that the enchantment is a separate entity.