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Fist fight only. No nexus feats.

1.) No Force augmentation.
2.) Force augmentation allowed.

Zeb, Bane.

Zeb takes both

Does Zeb have any good feats from season 2? I've only seen Siege of Lothal so far.

He opens a blast door and showed impressive durability (for a non Force-sensitive) in the episode on Wednesday. IIRC he also has his normal one-shotting stormtroopers.

Not too shabby.

Bane with the force got his ass kicked by mercenaries so I'll bet on Zeb here.

Not sure about round 1. Bane stomps in round 2.

Based on what does he stomp? His best feats are killing guards and shattering a skull while amped by the force

That's nothing compared to Zeb tossing around armored stormtroopers and opening massive blast doors.

Tearing through durasteel doors while drugged, staggering Zannah with his blows, and yes shattering bone beneath his blows.

Even if they're comparable in strength, Zeb has jack shit on Bane's speed or durability.

He was drawing on Darkside energies for those feats, what proof do you have he can do them under normal force augmentation?

The OP makes it clear there are no nexus feats

Originally posted by carthage
He was drawing on Darkside energies for those feats, what proof do you have he can do them under normal force augmentation?

The OP makes it clear there are no nexus feats
He was drugged for the durasteel one, Ambria is irrelevant to the Zannah as she is also a darksider, and Ruusan wasn't a nexus yet when Bane crushed the dude's skull iirc.

And still nothing for how Zeb copes with Bane's speed or durability.

He had Darkside energies replenishing him while he was drugged, and those circumstances of him being drugged aren't proof he can do it while drawing on the force normally. Mercenaries had no problems reacting to him, even while insanely amped by orbalisks an untrained force sensitive could dodge him. Even if he is faster Im not seeing how it's a huge edge

Originally posted by Trocity
Not too shabby.

Bane with the force got his ass kicked by mercenaries so I'll bet on Zeb here.

Hm? Curious which book was that?

Originally posted by carthage
He had Darkside energies replenishing him while he was drugged, and those circumstances of him being drugged aren't proof he can do it while drawing on the force normally.
The text explicitly states he's operating beneath his normal capacity.

Originally posted by carthage
Mercenaries had no problems reacting to him,
He was exhausted, had his powers suppressed, was outnumbered, was surprise attacked, and even then none of the soldiers could touch or evade him when he was in motion.

Originally posted by carthage
even while insanely amped by orbalisks an untrained force sensitive could dodge him.
1. Hetton was trained.
2. Bane killed him in two strikes as soon as he reached them. The first one cut off his arm, the second stabbed through his heart.
3. DOE Bane is faster than ROT Bane anyways.

Originally posted by carthage
Even if he is faster Im not seeing how it's a huge edge
Moving faster than a room of Sith Apprentices can see before his speed peak and striking fast enough to be unpredictable to an opponent who can basically observe a lightning bolt move in slow motion kinda makes me think it's a huge edge.

And Bane survived being trapped in a sphere of his force lightning in ROT, Zeb isn't doing shit to him with his blows.

I'm surprised Emperor you're defending Bane. Given that everyone seems to pick on him for....whatever reason.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The text explicitly states he's operating beneath his normal capacity.


He was exhausted, had his powers suppressed, was outnumbered, was surprise attacked, and even then none of the soldiers could touch or evade him when he was in motion.


1. Hetton was trained.
2. Bane killed him in two strikes as soon as he reached them. The first one cut off his arm, the second stabbed through his heart.
3. DOE Bane is faster than ROT Bane anyways.


Moving faster than a room of Sith Apprentices can see before his speed peak and striking fast enough to be unpredictable to an opponent who can basically observe a lightning bolt move in slow motion kinda makes me think it's a huge edge.

And Bane survived being trapped in a sphere of his force lightning in ROT, Zeb isn't doing shit to him with his blows. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79_IfpwDuBY/TwZC5Pp8H4I/AAAAAAAAELw/o5R9zCW_vfo/s1600/Gifs-tumblr+%252813%2529.gif

Debating against Carth in Bane threads is a complete waste of time. Dude things TCW Ahsoka could beat Bane or Zannah for a majority.