Boku No Hero Academia / My Hero Academia

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Q99
Anyone else reading this superhero manga?


Because that last chapter was *awesome* smile


It's really nice how, even though it shows the students as skilled and competent even this early on, the pro hero Teachers still stand in another class.

dadudemon
I'm reading this. Haven't read today's chapter. BRB

Q99
It's seriously competing with One Punch Man for my favorite hero series right now. Though for different reasons.

Demonic Phoenix
The translation I read of the first chapter was pretty bad. What was the deal with the toes on the feet?

Q99
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
The translation I read of the first chapter was pretty bad. What was the deal with the toes on the feet?


Ok, 'quirks'/powers are genetic. The quirk gene is linked to a gene that also causes the disappearance of a largely vestigial bone in the little toe of the foot. Someone who has the bone, doesn't have a genetic quirk.


Not terribly important, it just meant they could be fairly sure he was in the 20% of the population that wouldn't get a quirk.

Q99
One thing I find interesting is the implication that things got pretty bad after the rise of quirks, dealing with them. There's a quote at one point talking about how technology would be way more advanced if it wasn't for the quarks.

So you have some advanced tech for heroes, but it's actually relatively far in the future, all the chaos and villain fighting slowed things down as they became problem number one.

dadudemon
I'm all the way caught up to the latest chapter.


I think All Might is overpowered. He has super speed, super strength, and super durability. His strength allows him to create, basically, a thunderclap that can destroy several city blocks (because it literally did). That's crazy! Anyway, yeah, Midoria and Brat-blast beat him...but that's because All-Might CLEARLY let them win. He could have easily killed them both in a split second of the fight starting.

Q99
Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm all the way caught up to the latest chapter.


I think All Might is overpowered. He has super speed, super strength, and super durability. His strength allows him to create, basically, a thunderclap that can destroy several city blocks (because it literally did). That's crazy! Anyway, yeah, Midoria and Brat-blast beat him...but that's because All-Might CLEARLY let them win. He could have easily killed them both in a split second of the fight starting.


Well, obviously on two fronts there, his job is just to capture/disable the heroes, because killing is a bit much for a test and stopping them from leaving is a win, and he was handicapped.

But yes, All Might is massively powerful ^^ It's kinda scary to think about- Deku, once he fully masters One For All, should be stronger than him.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Q99
But yes, All Might is massively powerful ^^ It's kinda scary to think about- Deku, once he fully masters One For All, should be stronger than him.

This is, indeed, a really weird point. He's already shown promise on being superior to All-Might in using One For All. All-Might, in peak form/condition, is unstoppable.

Q99
A question is, how long will it take his body to grow accustomed to it? He hasn't figured out how to do the muscle-expansion thing All-Might does in order to withstand the force.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Q99
A question is, how long will it take his body to grow accustomed to it? He hasn't figured out how to do the muscle-expansion thing All-Might does in order to withstand the force.

This is the primary source of "literary conflict" for the main character. Without it, he would be OP and roll over all enemies.



I think the author is making the right choice in having him very painstakingly earn his way to All-Might levels of power. But! It does get frustrating seeing Deku break his shit, completely, every time he goes all out.

Q99
To be fair, with his 5% level mastered, he can now be a pretty solid hero without breaking something.

When he learns the muscle/resilience trick, then he'll be up there with All Might... and there's still All For One to worry about.

Q99
I'll also comment that while All-Might's power is the *physically* best, there's stuff like space warping and mental powers. One can be tremendously powerful and still lose, especially if one is inexperienced and makes mistakes.

Q99
New chapter.

That principle big grin

dadudemon
BRB

Reading it! big grin

dadudemon
Okay, what does All-Might mean on this page?

http://www.mangahere.co/manga/boku_no_hero_academia/c066/5.html


Is he saying that Deku will have a very strong friend to help him when it gets tough? Or does he mean that Blast-Boy is going to be a wall for Deku to overcome, eventually? I just don't understand what it is that is trying to be communicated.

Q99
Nah, he's saying that Bakugou himself will become very strong (maybe even more than Deku), because when there's a wall in his way, he laughs.

Just separately praising his two pupils.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Q99
Nah, he's saying that Bakugou himself will become very strong (maybe even more than Deku), because when there's a wall in his way, he laughs.

Just separately praising his two pupils.

Oh.



Thanks. smile

Q99
Yea, one thing I find interesting is All Might may be sponsoring/aiding Deku, but he still definitely wants Deku's rival to success as a hero. Bakugou's one of his students too.

Q99
And we finally get Sato's quirk!

Drawback similar to Kaminari's, but not quite as bad it seems...

dadudemon
So, uhhhh.....Minoru Mineta... He just wants to become successful to get women and touch boobs.


He's a young Master Roshi. smile

Q99
He kinda is, yea.

And I can't really see him be a real elite hero, but I can picture him capturing lots of low and mid level villains.

Midnight's a good match for him- they both have disabling powers. Hers is quite good.

Q99
Anyone else find the villain creepier when he *isn't* wearing severed hands?

Q99
Hah! New chapter out.

I reeeally like this class B guy smile

"Oh look, 5 failed from the superior class A, while only one failed from class B! I couldn't imagine how that must make you feel!"
-Said while clearly being said class B failure.

"I'd really like to know what goes on inside that guy's head."

Q99
Deku finally going all-out on an actual villain!... and taking bone damage again. That kid's skeleton.... though unsurprisingly, he's used to fighting through it now.

And who's arm is that?? Shouji's maybe, since he has extra...

vansonbee
Anyone thinking Ragdoll is the spy for the villains? Her link to the telepathic cat girl was not on. What her ability anyways?

Q99
Originally posted by vansonbee
Anyone thinking Ragdoll is the spy for the villains? Her link to the telepathic cat girl was not on. What her ability anyways?

Her ability is to observe and monitor people, sensing their location and weak points.

This is apparently a team that's existed for quite awhile so... it's not my thought, but then again, *somehow* the villains knew they were there. Though there is simply the possibility they hit her first because she, combined with the telepath, is so useful in coordinating.

Q99
Yee-ouch, does that look painful!


I'd have thought the first punch would've done it, but this foe is *strong*.

ares834
Anime has started up and it's been pretty enjoyable so far. I'd recommend checking it out.

Q99
I like how much the pro heroes just *wreck* when they hit the scene.... they aren't just a bit better than the students, they're pro for a reason.

cdtm
Seeing it on Crunchyroll (Those ads though.. I don't mind them, but when they take 5 minutes just to cycle up on an Xbox, that's pretty much discouraging people away from NOT pirate-streaming..)

cdtm
I guess with a season down, I don't need to use spoiler tags.

So, I'm five episodes in, and like the premise. It's kind of a mash-up of the Rock Lee/Gai Sensei subplot in a Normalman style world.

All Might's power raises some questions:

1. HTH did he ever discover his quirk? What, did the original quirk bearer see someone who had a hair eating fetish? (Or perhaps a more.. "conventional" swallowing pleasure? smile )

2. I assume there was an additional power included? Otherwise, how would he even know the power was passed on the first time? (Unless they DIDN'T know, and it was only discovered on the second pass..)


This means All Might must have been seriously impressed to break with his idea of empowering a gifted student. This means NO powers will be added this generation, at all. (Unless All Might himself had no quirk..)

I also don't recall AM really telling how he got his injury, so I'm going to assume his own power did it to him. That's why self sacrifice is such an important priority, because the power is basically coming at the expense of life long crippling pain at best, and a shortened life span at worst.. The "gift" literally kills you in serving the public.

cdtm
Now THAT is how you do an awesome anime adaptation!

One season down, and it's simply AMAZING!. It's like the complete opposite of Dragon Ball Super, where instead of struggling to choke down even a single episode, you can easily inhale the entire series like it's Walter White's 99% chemically pure "Blue Sky".

Can't recommend this enough to anyone who likes watching something good.

Or you can see Dragon Ball Super, your choice. wink

AuraAngel
There is no way to stop people from watching DBS. Unfortunate since it really is just fine at best and actually bad at worst.

That said My Hero is very solid though incredibly overrated in my humble opinion.

Dark-Kenshin
When I watch/read Boku No Hero Academia, I can feel an author who has put his sweat and soul into the storytelling. I just don't get that feeling with DBS.

wakkawakkawakka
So this is the unofficial successor to Naruto that Q was talking about 3 years ago.

I'm starting to read the manga and I have to say its pretty good.

cdtm
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So this is the unofficial successor to Naruto that Q was talking about 3 years ago.

I'm starting to read the manga and I have to say its pretty good.

It's pretty much "Rock Lee: The series".

AuraAngel
It's actually basically just an inferior version of Hajime no Ippo.

Dark-Kenshin
Originally posted by AuraAngel
It's actually basically just an inferior version of Hajime no Ippo. You know, if HnI didn't feel like the author was trying to milk the cow till it dies (which it does with its 1185 chapters and plot that has been in complete stagnation for 400+ chapters now), I'd probably agree. I came very close to dropping it after Ippo lost to Gonzales.

AuraAngel
If the milk is fine I don't mind it lol. MHA will be milked as well I assure you. This is Shonen Jump.

MHA is fine but I genuinely don't really understand the fanaticism behind it. The Promised Neverland is better as far as new Jump goes.

cdtm
It's partly the same appeal as Astro City, with The Confessor and his protege. Idealized hero through the eyes of an upstart wanna be.

Never seen Hnl, but if it's anything like this I'll check it out.

AuraAngel
Well Ippo is a sports series so it is far more grounded than MHA by design. It's a good one though so hey.

KingD19
Originally posted by cdtm
I guess with a season down, I don't need to use spoiler tags.

So, I'm five episodes in, and like the premise. It's kind of a mash-up of the Rock Lee/Gai Sensei subplot in a Normalman style world.

All Might's power raises some questions:

1. HTH did he ever discover his quirk? What, did the original quirk bearer see someone who had a hair eating fetish? (Or perhaps a more.. "conventional" swallowing pleasure? smile )

2. I assume there was an additional power included? Otherwise, how would he even know the power was passed on the first time? (Unless they DIDN'T know, and it was only discovered on the second pass..)


This means All Might must have been seriously impressed to break with his idea of empowering a gifted student. This means NO powers will be added this generation, at all. (Unless All Might himself had no quirk..)

I also don't recall AM really telling how he got his injury, so I'm going to assume his own power did it to him. That's why self sacrifice is such an important priority, because the power is basically coming at the expense of life long crippling pain at best, and a shortened life span at worst.. The "gift" literally kills you in serving the public.

1. All Might is Quirkless; that's what drew him to Midoriya in the first place. He got his Quirk "One For All" from his sensei, who got it from hers all the way back to the progenitor. It's been passed down for 8 generations, with Deku being the latest. The original holder of the Quirk was given the power to basically stockpile power(not powers as in new quirks, simply raw physical power) in his body by his brother. The original One For All user already had a quirk that let him pass his power along with someone ingesting his DNA and him willing the transfer. They mutated and turned into One For All, a combination of both. All Might doesn't have a fetish, you weirdo. laughing out loud Well...justice I guess.

2. As I said, the original Quirk was simply "I can pass my quirk on to someone". However as that was the only ability of the Quirk, it was worthless. Once the "Stockpile" Quirk was given to him, the powers merged and became One For All, hence the name. It's kind of a monumental thing, so each current user picks their successor and trains them until they're ready to inherit it. All-Might saw a lot of himself in Deku, which is why he picked him as he saw all the best qualities he had even before he got One For All.

And it simply stockpiles power with each user, so it grows in power regardless, independently of whatever other QUirk the user has.


3. He actually got his injury from the first One For All user's brother, a guy called Sensei who has a Quirk called All For One that lets him steal and distribute Quirk's. SO he can take a firebreathing Quirk and use it until he passes it on to someone else, and then they have it. He has been gathering powers for decades and was so strong he gave All-Might his current injuries. In return though All-Might hospitalized him and tore off half his face.

One For All will kill you though if your body isn't conditioned for it.

Dark-Kenshin
Just about caught up on the manga. Decided I'd comment.

And man, this series basically feels like the author read Naruto and said to himself "Man, this series has a lot of untapped potential, but never delivers. Time to fix that." Everything Naruto gets wrong, this series gets right.

- Deku, the main characters, remains consistent, likeable and relatable (whereas Naruto himself nosedived as a character after the first timeskip). What's more, he always uses his head and has yet to win a battle thanks to asspull (Sage of Six Paths mode anyone?). Even though him and Bakugou have somewhat of love/hate relationship, I don't even see him becoming obsessed with Bakugou the way Naruto was obsessed with Sasuke and see him sticking to his goals.

-Bakugou is pretty much a symbol of every way Sasuke could've been an amazing character. Even though the dude is talented, he has zero gary stu qualities and his character progression has remained logical (best shown when he turned down the League of villains offer to join them with zero hesitation. And somehow, despite being a complete *******, you don't mind rooting for him. THIS is how you do a rival character.

- Uraraka is pretty much a symbol of every way Sakura and/or Hinata could've been compelling characters. Yes, she is in love with Deku (something I didn't care for at the beginning given my distaste of the female protagonists in Naruto), but as the manga progressed, I found an actual three dimensional character in Uraraka as opposed to her Naruto counterparts. She is not obsessed with Deku and has her own thoughts/aspirations which we consistently see. What's more, she's mentally willing to put her feelings for Deku aside in order for her own growth. Last but not least, she's actually useful and actually contributes to the plot. Very well written character.

-Even though Deku is the main character, the entirety of class 1-A matters and gets consistently development (I love Fumikage by the way!). Naruto tried doing this prior to the first timeskip, but after that, outside of filler, the side character roles fell flat and artificial. This is good writing and thanks to Deku's knack for teamwork and strategy, I feel that all of the characters in class 1-A will always contribute to the plot.

-All Might is AWESOME. He's basically Might Gai done right and with actual and constant plot significance.

-The story arcs are surprisingly deep and sometimes. I initially dismissed Stain as being a lame one-note villain of the week villain. Yet somehow, despite being defeated, he has had a drastic impact on the league of villains and the influence they have on the world. And the way the hero culture is called into question is actually pretty realistic in terms of how it'd operate if heroes and villains were real.

-My only qualm with the series thus far is the villain, Shigaraki. He SUCKS. He is awful. Don't get me wrong. It took me a while, but I gathered that he is basically the anti-Deku (in a learning process of becoming a true villain) and that he is kind of intentionally crappy thus far, but he SUCKS so bad to the point of annoyance. Again, I know it's intentional, so probably just a small qualm.

All in all, am looking forward to how this manga progresses! smile

cdtm
Bakugou is practically a parody of Sasuke. laughing

He's just so over the top ******* that NO ONE takes him seriously.


Even Takamura would listen to his schtick and tell him to scale it back a bit. He's basically the Japanese Guy Gardner. thumb up

AuraAngel
Comparing MHA to Naruto is not something I really understand. The two series are so very different that I'm not sure why people do it except I guess both being Jump's second biggest manga after OP. That and a desire to feel like their manga is better than another manga even though that is very silly.

Dark-Kenshin
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Comparing MHA to Naruto is not something I really understand. The two series are so very different that I'm not sure why people do it except I guess both being Jump's second biggest manga after OP. That and a desire to feel like their manga is better than another manga even though that is very silly. As a former fan of Naruto, there are certain gripes I had with the Shippuden era (especially the Shinobi War Arc) that MHA seems to specifically address in its manner of storytelling. The two series are indeed fundamentally different, but at its most basic level, I do see some Naruto influences that have been carried over.

AuraAngel
I suppose but some comparisons aren't all that similar. Bakugo has way more in common with Naruto that he ever could with Sasuke, who is more like Todoroki if he had a MHA counterpart.

Though I except a One Piece reference is coming in the near future if a character that I think is gonna die does indeed die.

Dark-Kenshin
Originally posted by AuraAngel
I suppose but some comparisons aren't all that similar. Bakugo has way more in common with Naruto that he ever could with Sasuke, who is more like Todoroki if he had a MHA counterpart.

Though I except a One Piece reference is coming in the near future if a character that I think is gonna die does indeed die. All Might dies, we get a timeskip and Deku can suddenly go 50% full cowl?

AuraAngel
All Might shouldn't be dying for a bit. I'm talking about the kid that can phase through things.

Dark-Kenshin
Originally posted by AuraAngel
All Might shouldn't be dying for a bit. I'm talking about the kid that can phase through things. Oh yeah. Mirio. I'm not completely caught up yet. I'm just to the point where he beats the entire 1-A class by himself. Seems pretty broken.

KingD19
They explain how he is anything but broken.

Dark-Kenshin
Originally posted by KingD19
They explain how he is anything but broken. Just read that part. I like that a lot. Pretty creative on the author's part. I hope this applies to every quirk and there's never just an ability on its own that allows one to ROFTL stomp everyone else (aside from all for one of course). smile

AuraAngel
To be fair Todoroki's come pretty damn close. He came second in the tournament while virtually holding one hand behind his back. His showings are also just ridiculous lol.

KingD19
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Just read that part. I like that a lot. Pretty creative on the author's part. I hope this applies to every quirk and there's never just an ability on its own that allows one to ROFTL stomp everyone else (aside from all for one of course). smile

Yeah, each Quirk has it's weaknesses to go with it's strength's, even One For All.

With that one, you have to basically train your body to beyond what's humanly possible so it doesn't turn you into bone pasta every time you use it.

Kaminari's lightning powers make him stupid if puts out too many voltages at once.

The stomach laser kid gets the shits if he shoots it too much, etc...

Some of them are more hilarious than serious, but they are all real weakness that effect them in a fight.

Like Creati lost a fight because she couldn't focus enough to create any weapons due to her opponent keeping her off balance the entire time.

KingD19
Originally posted by AuraAngel
To be fair Todoroki's come pretty damn close. He came second in the tournament while virtually holding one hand behind his back. His showings are also just ridiculous lol.

Todoroki followed by Bakugo are the most OP students in 1A.

Even beyond his powers, they stated he's basically physically perfect and super smart both in intelligence wise and in tactics. He's like Karma from Assassination Classroom, with super powers.

cdtm
Been following along with the manga, just past the provisional liscence arc.

Kudo's to the writer for the unexpected outcome of that event.

Also, to date Bakagou's probably made the most improvements, while Todoroki's kind of stalled in his development. I think at this point, Bakagou could take him, easily.

It's obvious they're BOTH Sasuke. Todoroki is pre time skip version, while Bakagou is post, but with enough pride to want to make his own path without shortcuts, and with his ambition turned up to 11.

And unlike Sasauke, out of the mains, Bakagou is the only one who's not a legacy. You've got to admire a guy who's fighting for a place amongst the various legacies, of which there's quite a few.

AuraAngel
Bakagou also told a physically disabled kid to kill himself. Swell guy.

cdtm
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Bakagou also told a physically disabled kid to kill himself. Swell guy.

And he's still more of a hero then Endeaver. thumb up

KingD19
Endeavor is an as*hole and a shit person, but he's actually a great hero in the terms it's used in in the Boku no Hero Academia world. He wouldn't be #2 otherwise.

cdtm
Lol yeah, true enough. Isn't his career high actually above All-Mights over rescues or something?

Anyway, the hero tests are pretty flawed imo.. What they should have, is specializations depending on ability and chosen path. Like Bakugou, a guy who blows things up probably shouldn't be taking part in rescue operations. And it's not like he's been subtle about only wanting to beat people up, so make him a de-facto "heavy hitter" that gets called in to hammer down nails.

vansonbee
Now, this is a true fan of the series.

http://i.imgur.com/gZ381rb.jpg

cdtm
lmfao!

Guessing that guy isn't planning on working an office job.

KingD19
Originally posted by cdtm
Lol yeah, true enough. Isn't his career high actually above All-Mights over rescues or something?

Anyway, the hero tests are pretty flawed imo.. What they should have, is specializations depending on ability and chosen path. Like Bakugou, a guy who blows things up probably shouldn't be taking part in rescue operations. And it's not like he's been subtle about only wanting to beat people up, so make him a de-facto "heavy hitter" that gets called in to hammer down nails.


Yeah. On paper he's "technically" a better hero. But come on...It's All-Might.


Agreed. The testing system is bad, and several times it's noted how it's kinda unfair because it's a single test for every quirk. So the guy who could control people had a hard time because they had to fight giant robots. Going further into the hero system as a whole, the author is pretty good at over time laying out the world system, and even having heroes and situation showcase very clearly that the system is deeply flawed, but it's basically the best they've got. Like when Deku and co. beat Stain. A pro-hero had to take the credit, or they would have all gotten into serious trouble. So instead of them being boosted to Young Superstar status, they have to sit in the background and let others take credit for their literal blood, sweat and tears.

Eraserhead and other Pro's even take notice of how unfair things are, especially for the younger generation who are caught up in this escalating war.

cdtm
"I won't blab like that shithead Midoriya!"

Hey, when he's right, he's right. laughing

cdtm
Onto the battle for All Might's successor.

No idea why Mirio even needs his quirk though. He's so effective with his crappy quirk, it would be a waste of a hero.

And it's not really fair comparing him to Midoriya either. Fact is, NO ONE can compete with what he's accomplished with his quirk. Not even All Might himself. He's an inspirational story for weak quirk users.

He should be allowed to be his own man, using his own quirk, and build his own legacy. Like Batman refusing a GL ring, because it would hold him back. smile

KingD19
His quirk isnt weak though. It's extremely useful and powerful. It's just super hard to use and takes a lot of getting used to.

That's kinda like saying One For All is weak because it hurts Deku when he uses it wrong.

AuraAngel
Too bad Mirio is gonna die. Likely to save Deku.

cdtm
Originally posted by KingD19
His quirk isnt weak though. It's extremely useful and powerful. It's just super hard to use and takes a lot of getting used to.

That's kinda like saying One For All is weak because it hurts Deku when he uses it wrong.

Too many downsides though. One mistep and he's in the center of the Earth.

But he still doesn't need One For All. All Might's old sidekick is basically looking at a guy winning every fighting tournament including Evo with a C tier character, and insisting he should "tier up" for no real reason.

Bentley
Originally posted by cdtm
Like Batman refusing a GL ring, because it would hold him back. smile


What holds Batman back is being a terrible character. Even a gun would provide a significative boost to that deluded madman, let alone a GL ring.

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