Titus+Despero vs. WWH+Sentry

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Galan007
Titus:
http://i.imgur.com/hQoiYnH.png

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Despero:
http://i.imgur.com/Ny3VCyH.png


VS.


WWH:
http://i.imgur.com/awffTM0.png

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Sentry:
http://i.imgur.com/YHAHpz1.png


-Stips-
*Peak Titus.
*V&V Despero.
*This is WWH, not WBH.
*No molecular manipulation or 'Voiding out' for Sentry.


Battle takes place on Bizarro World:
http://i.imgur.com/xs0LeJ0.png



How goes this?

Tony Stark
SENTRY solos all 3

carver9
Depends on Sentry mindset tbh. Also, are you using the Titus in the pic or the Titus that showed back up amplified (and stomped the JLA). Also, is all of Greenscar (outside of WBH) available to him?

Galan007
Thought my OP was clear, but I guess not...

This is peak Titus.
This is 'stable' Sentry(no molecule manip. No Void.)
All feats for WWH are usable, sans 'world-breakah!!!' mode.

SquallX
Bizarro is happy this not take in his metropolis.

Bizarro hugs all of them alive.

Despero maind rape Sentry.

Zack M
Team 1

leonidas
what kind of feats DOES sentry have against a high level tp user anyway...? confused

psycho gundam
On Bizarro world it mean YES to WBH, Void and weakest Titus showing

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by leonidas
what kind of feats DOES sentry have against a high level tp user anyway...? confused

Almost none, but he did mindwipe Earth (incld.the usual suspects like Strange, X, Frost et al).

Enzeru
Originally posted by leonidas
what kind of feats DOES sentry have against a high level tp user anyway...? confused

It took the combined efforts of Emma Frost and Professor X to enter the safe zone in Sentry's mind, Emma Frost once built with Sentry's permission. And even there, after few seconds, she got mind-owned to a point, where she had to retreat into her diamond form and stay like that for days.

I don't know how powerful Robert Grayson's aka Marvel Boy telepathic abilities are, but as he tried entering Sentry's mind, he immediately had to get out, because the darkness in Sentry's mind was threatening to consume him.

carver9
If this is killer mode Sentry that isn't playing around, giving this to Hulk's team.

Insane Titan
Team 1 stomps

SquallX
Originally posted by Enzeru
It took the combined efforts of Emma Frost and Professor X to enter the safe zone in Sentry's mind, Emma Frost once built with Sentry's permission. And even there, after few seconds, she got mind-owned to a point, where she had to retreat into her diamond form and stay like that for days.

I don't know how powerful Robert Grayson's aka Marvel Boy telepathic abilities are, but as he tried entering Sentry's mind, he immediately had to get out, because the darkness in Sentry's mind was threatening to consume him.

Emma's not half the telepath that is Desparo.

Surtur
A subtle enough telepath could possibly overwhelm Sentry the way he got overwhelmed with Cloc.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
If this is killer mode Sentry that isn't playing around, giving this to Hulk's team. Any particular reason why?

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
Any particular reason why?

If this is Greenscar being used then he is physically stronger than anyone here and of course, TP will not work against him. It would probably piss him off.

I think Sentry is powerful enough to either beat or stalemate his opponent until Greenscar is done.

Despero and Titus are physically imposing but neither of them are beating Hulk when it comes to punching out each other. Add in Sentry output, they get the majority imo.

celeyhyga17
Titus was a beast. Trans level physically.

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Titus was a beast. Trans level physically.

Because he clashed Diana and Superman head together? Also, what was Greenscar physically?

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Because he clashed Diana and Superman head together? No, probably because of this:
http://i.imgur.com/rHZnBpqm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5QA0eC9m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KBKekVQm.jpg

celeyhyga17
Both.

I would have to reread that arc, but I came away having this overall sense that there was no stopping him.. Especially later on when he "evolved"...

Zack M
Didn't he evolve to manipulate reality or something?

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
No, probably because of this:
http://i.imgur.com/rHZnBpqm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5QA0eC9m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KBKekVQm.jpg

I remember the fight. He did good against the JLA as well. I find this ft to be better though.

http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/Matthews1986/media/WWHThunderclap04Hulk24_zpsb789be24.jpg.html
http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/Matthews1986/media/WWHThunderclap05_zps4b915620.jpg.html

Galan007
Originally posted by Zack M
Didn't he evolve to manipulate reality or something? None of that, please.

Peak Titus refers to the peak of his physicality--no esoteric powers are allowed here(hence why I neutered Sentry in that regard.)

carver9
Originally posted by Zack M
Didn't he evolve to manipulate reality or something?

Yes...he shrunk the Flash.

DarkSaint85
That's not WWH...smdh.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's not WWH...smdh.

I asked him if fts afterwards can be used since Greenscar is WWH and I got the impression that it was ok.

celeyhyga17
Just browsed through it again. Peak Titus was Mangogish..

Team 1

His reaction times were good too. Flash was basically useless.

carver9
Don't think reaction is the problem here. Honestly don't see how team 1 is pulling a majority.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Don't think reaction is the problem here. Honestly don't see how team 1 is pulling a majority.
Titus was dominating the JLA even in his unevolved form. In his later form he credited Superman for being stronger too, but it didn't stop him from physically owning Supes along with the rest of the JLA.

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Titus was dominating the JLA even in his unevolved form. In his later form he credited Superman for being stronger too, but it didn't stop him from physically owning Supes along with the rest of the JLA.


Yeah, seen the fight. Highly interesting but it still doesn't make me believe he could beat this Hulk. The Avengers and Fantastic Four was out here to confront the Hulk/Banner and Skaar was on the field as well; adding 100 trillion tons to his already Hulk like power. He became so powerful that the entirety of the Fantastic Four along with some of the Avengers couldn't even budge him.


http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611005.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611006.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611007.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611008.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611009.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611010.jpghttp://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611011.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611012.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611013.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611014.jpg

Hulk then tells the Avengers and F4 to step aside because none of them are powerful enough to challenge him except his son (pretty sure you know who was on the battlefield... not done)...

carver9
Even with that huge amp. Even with Hulk acknowledging that his son is more powerful than everyone out there combined, Hulk still treated Skaar like he was fodder. Hell, at one point he allowed Skaar to pound on him while saving lives.


http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611015.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611016.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611017.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611018-19.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611020.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611021.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611022.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611023.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611024.jpg http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/th_IncredibleHulk611025.jpg

Nope, Titus isn't taking out Hulk imo.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
I find this ft to be better though.

http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/Matthews1986/media/WWHThunderclap04Hulk24_zpsb789be24.jpg.html
http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/Matthews1986/media/WWHThunderclap05_zps4b915620.jpg.html Hulk delivered the Thunderclap coup de grace after he'd already softened Rulk up a bit from their physical exchange(s) earlier in the battle(and also after Rulk expended an enormous amount of energy in his 'nuclear haymaker'.) You really think that is better than Titus, at his weakest levels, almost killing Superman with a single strike? Really? srsly

Originally posted by carver9
I asked him if fts afterwards can be used since Greenscar is WWH and I got the impression that it was ok. Wasn't my original intent, but sure, I'll allow it. smile

celeyhyga17
I'm confused now. Is this a purely physical battle or are things like tp and blasts involved?

Galan007
The only abilities that aren't allowed are the molecule/reality manipulation that Sentry and peak Titus bring to the table. All other abilities are allowed.

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
Hulk delivered the Thunderclap coup de grace after he'd already softened Rulk up a bit from their physical exchange(s) earlier in the battle(and also after Rulk expended an enormous amount of energy in his 'nuclear haymaker'.) You really think that is better than Titus, at his weakest levels, almost killing Superman with a single strike? Really? srsly

Wasn't my original intent, but sure, I'll allow it. smile

Rulk amped himself beforehand though. Remember, he took some of Hulks power before the thunderclap.

celeyhyga17
Hmm... Iirc Titus owned both AQ and J'onn telepathically. Plus his physicality was nutz. There was literally no stopping him short of bfr.

carver9
Here is the power amping.

http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3898133

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hmm... Iirc Titus owned both AQ and J'onn telepathically. Plus his physicality was nutz. There was literally no stopping him short of bfr.

There were no HERALDS able to stop him and the same can be said about the Greenscar tbh.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
There were no HERALDS able to stop him and the same can be said about the Greenscar tbh.
What's WWH top feats?


Titus was battling multiple heavy hitters virtually all at the same time. He was knocking them out on more than one occasion. If not for them grouping up like they did, he prolly would've killed each one. He's like one of the few Villains who's k'od Supes more than once. Doesn't happen too often.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Rulk amped himself beforehand though. Remember, he took some of Hulks power before the thunderclap. Originally posted by carver9
Here is the power amping.

http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3898133 Doesn't matter. Immediately after that, Rulk discharged a shit-ton of energy with his 'nuclear haymaker':
http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/24528961_Hulk_2008-2012_024-015.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/24528962_Hulk_2008-2012_024-016.jpg
...And that was literally right before Hulk delivered the Thunderclap.


So yeah, if you don't think an energy release of that magnitude significantly reduced Rulk's power, you're craze-balls. He was clearly going for broke with that attack. thumb up

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
Doesn't matter. Immediately after that, Rulk discharged a shit-ton of energy with his 'nuclear haymaker':
http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/24528961_Hulk_2008-2012_024-015.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/24528962_Hulk_2008-2012_024-016.jpg
...And that was literally right before Hulk delivered the Thunderclap.


So yeah, if you don't think an energy release of that magnitude significantly reduced Rulk's power, you're craze-balls. He was clearly going for broke with that attack. thumb up

I agree but Rulk showed no sign of fatigue or anything after that blow. He was clearly operating at normal or possibly still slightly above normal self after that blow. Hulk, a Hulk that JUST got his energy drain was able to take him out with a simple thunderclap.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
I agree but Rulk showed no sign of fatigue or anything after that blow. He was clearly operating at normal or possibly still slightly above normal self after that blow. It's called common sense, carver.

-An extended battle between Hulk and Rulk takes place.
-Rulk absorbs some of Hulk's energy.
-Rulk tries to kill Hulk with an all-out blow that obviously required a large amount of his energy, judging by the detonation it caused.
-Hulk gets up and owns Rulk with a Thunderclap.

You're ignoring logic in favor of blindly wanking Hulk. That's just silly and biased.

Fact: Rulk does NOT possess infinite energy stores.
Fact: an energy discharge of THAT magnitude WOULD weaken/deplete him.
Fact: considering the release of energy we saw, coupled with the fact that he had NO time to 'recharge', we can logically assume that Rulk was NOT at full power when Hulk Thunderclapped him.

Furthermore, if a Thunderclap is all it took to defeat Rulk the entire time, there would have been no need for an extended battle. The fact that Hulk only used this tactic after Rulk expended a good deal of his energy, tells me it logically wouldn't have done much to Rulk at his peak.


That is fair, and moreover logical. thumb up

carver9
Hulk was weakened as well though due to Rulk absorbing said energy. Also, Hulk wasn't out for blood like Rulk was. He was obviously holding back during that fight. He could've ended it any time he wanted. Overall, to some extent, I do agree with you. It's still a crazy ft. Hulk taking someone like Rulk (especially THAT version of Rulk) out with a thunder clap.

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What's WWH top feats?


Titus was battling multiple heavy hitters virtually all at the same time. He was knocking them out on more than one occasion. If not for them grouping up like they did, he prolly would've killed each one. He's like one of the few Villains who's k'od Supes more than once. Doesn't happen too often.

The teams that Hulk confronted wouldn't face him tbh. The Avengers and the Fantastic Four were there when Hulk was beating up him son and threatening the east coast with a footstep and none of them took the time or raised a finger to stop him. Hulk controlled the battlefield. So when it came to fighting the Avengers, it never happened because they didn't have the gazoonies to face him.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was weakened as well though due to Rulk absorbing said energy. Also, Hulk wasn't out for blood like Rulk was. He was obviously holding back during that fight. He could've ended it any time he wanted. Overall, to some extent, I do agree with you. It's still a crazy ft. Hulk taking someone like Rulk (especially THAT version of Rulk) out with a thunder clap. If Hulk would have beaten peak Rulk with a Thunderclap, I'd agree that it might be on par with Titus' feat.

As it stands, though: nearly killing peak Superman with a single strike >>> downing a weakened/depleted Rulk with a Thunderclap.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
The teams that Hulk confronted wouldn't face him tbh. The Avengers and the Fantastic Four were there when Hulk was beating up him son and threatening the east coast with a footstep and none of them took the time or raised a finger to stop him. Hulk controlled the battlefield. So when it came to fighting the Avengers, it never happened because they didn't have the gazoonies to face him.
He's also their friend and teammate for a long time. They didn't want to go all out on a fellow hero.
wink

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He's also their friend and teammate for a long time. They didn't want to go all out on a fellow hero.
wink

http://s980.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media/IncredibleHulk611005.jpg.html
http://s980.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media/IncredibleHulk611006.jpg.html

LOL... naah, Pak wrote that they feared him.

DTM
So a team of 2 members who can defeat a top notch team of the JLA, against WWHulk and Sentry? Team 1 pretty solidly takes this IMO. I like the Hulk, and I liked the WWHulk storyline, but no way is he physically beating a character who was physically strong enough to fight Superman, Capt Marvel, Wonder Woman, Power Girl combined, and also has mental bolts to boot. Not happening.

celeyhyga17
I thought Peak Titus was physically even more impressive than Despero.

carver9
He isn't beating Greenscar though. Not happening.

Zack M
Titus FTW.

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by Zack M
Titus FTW.

thumb up

Prof. T.C McAbe
Titus solos, also physically by far the most superior one here.

carver9
Nope.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Tony Stark
SENTRY solos all 3

quanchi112
Sentry solos.

Rao Kal El
Team 1

Sin I AM
Team2 ftw

Blue Area Vet
Team 2, stop overrating Supermans glass jaw.

Galan007
Being of the opinion that team 2 wins is one thing. The notion that Sentry solos is laughable, though.

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