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Yep, it's returning. Cue the nerdgasms.

No Mako this time though.






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Holy shit.

On adult swim too? Gonna go change my shorts.

I wonder if they'll get Greg Baldwin to voice Aku? He took over as Iroh after Mako's death.

Yeah, Greg did a good impersonation.

Still won't be the same without Mako, obviously, but this show deserves a proper ending.

Sweet. Hope they do it right. I wonder if being on Adult Swim will allow them to take more liberties than their Cartoon Network TV-Y7 rating did.

Now there can be blood along with robo oil!!

So Lamar confirmed to return?

There's gonna be massive outrage if Lamar isn't brought back.

Also, is it just me or does (assumingly) Jack kind of look like Mojo JoJo/Galactus? I kind of hope that's not Jack, not sure how I would feel with him decked out in armor unless he becomes some warlord or leader of a huge army against Aku.

That is pretty much what he does when he becomes older.

Though he looks different. So probably somewhere in between because he's decked out in Japanese armour?

Oh, well that doesn't look too bad.

Pros. Its back and on the adult swim. YAY VIOLENCE

Cons. It looks like a poorly made flash cartoon.

Dammit, still no news about the show.

You sound disheartened.

Don't you **** with me, there's gonna be a new one???

Originally posted by AuraAngel
You sound disheartened.

I've been trying to hold on, but my nerdgasms can only last so long.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Don't you **** with me, there's gonna be a new one???

Yep.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Pros. Its back and on the adult swim. YAY VIOLENCE

Cons. It looks like a poorly made flash cartoon. It ironic that a lot of amazing, but old shoes with awful animation are coming back.

Berserk is coming back, and now Samurai Jack, both with different but equally painful animation.

First new images.

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Apparently it is set 50 years after episode 52.

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Gotta get back, back to the past, Samurai Jack.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
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Do we have a release date yet?

Nope, not yet unfortunately.

We have a release date:

http://nerdist.com/samurai-jack-season-5-will-premiere-in-march/

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Jack's back.

About time.

http://www.cbr.com/samurai-jack-featurette-reveals-epic-music-new-footage/

Some new stuff to wet the whistle.

Holy shit. The updated animation is sexy as hell.

Also slight spoilers here, but this got me very excited!

Originally posted by Jmanghan
It ironic that a lot of amazing, but old shoes with awful animation are coming back.

Berserk is coming back, and now Samurai Jack, both with different but equally painful animation.

wut

Samurai Jack's animation is fantastic!

Yeah, gonna have to call bullshit on that one. But its opinion bullshit, to each his own.

Gotta get back, back to the past Samurai Jack.

Get hyped for tonight boys.

And girls. I'm inclusive.

This isn't your after school Samurai Jack anymore. I'm ready for people to bleed tonight. And die because they're real and not robots gushing oil anymore!!

Dude, I just cut myself on your edginess.

Originally posted by KingD19
This isn't your after school Samurai Jack anymore. I'm ready for people to bleed tonight. And die because they're real and not robots gushing oil anymore!!

But if we don't shower Jack in oil how is this cold blooded murder machine supposed to get fuel?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
But if we don't shower Jack in oil how is this cold blooded murder machine supposed to get fuel?

Robots and oil generators will still get chopped down the middle. It's just now...the robots have company when they die. Their human partners. Now Jack is an equal opportunity mass murderer.

I liked it.

Eh episode was ok, a tad cliche if I might say.

^^^You just did.

The 3D animation blended fluidly with the traditional 2D.
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Aku has a cult that births disciples to honor and serve him. Hella Cool.
Jack has guns and a sick motorcycle. Fairly Cool.
He has not aged as a side effect of time displacement. Pretty Cool.
He's haunted by vision of his family berating him for abandoning them. Damn Sad.

Thats crazy that he lost his sword.

I didnt even notice that at first.

I do like the spear though.

I noticed pretty quick, and man, does thst suck.

When does this start?

Yesterday.

My god, was that blood?

Were people killed in the pilot? A first for this series, the only bleeding you'd normally see is oil.

Yeah its on Adult Swim now. So its not mainly robots. People and creatures were killed in the original though.

Originally posted by cdtm
My god, was that blood?

Were people killed in the pilot? A first for this series, the only bleeding you'd normally see is oil. A woman gets stabbed in the eye and killed.

Yeah, I dvr'd the pilot repeat.

Knowing Genndy, I don't think we have to worry about getting a bloodbath or anything. The man is clearly inspired by Usagi Yojimbo, which means thoughtful writing. He was probably pressure to put in as much as he did (And none of it from Jack.)

I mean, he's not Kirkman.

God, can you imagine a Kirkman wrtten Samurai Jack? *Shudders*

Really the only difference between Kirkman and Tartakovsky is that Kirkman accepted bloodbaths. Genndy had to deal with censors so he got oil changes instead. He was drenched in well over dozens of gallons of oil and fluids by the time the series was over.

So Jack is definitely gonna kill ashi, right?

Oh people are going to die. And they are gonna bleed.

Originally posted by KingD19
Really the only difference between Kirkman and Tartakovsky is that Kirkman accepted bloodbaths. Genndy had to deal with censors so he got oil changes instead. He was drenched in well over dozens of gallons of oil and fluids by the time the series was over.

You might have a point at that. All that oil represented something besides oil.

But they say Genndy himself claimed he has no interest in gore, and I still say he must be a big fan of Stan Sakai (Fights and death happen in Usagi all the time, only instead of blood or oil we've got stylish cartoon skulls to denote a death.)

Oh, and King, I'm not just talking about gore with regard to Kirkman. Have you read Invincible lately?

Kirkman on Jack ends with Jack fighting that 700 ton sumo guy in a rematch, falling under his bulk, and getting raped.

This "Robot Fight but with Genndy's Narration" was better than I expected.

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Wow that was sad. =(

Holy shit, that was intense.

OMG JACK!! Holy shit...

Now even if he gets back...he won't really be back. =(

That poor brave wolf

Hahahah wow that was amazing. The Daughters are easily among the top tier of foes Jack has fought like the Imakandi, Set's Minions, Blind Archers, etc...

Aku's new voice. Thoughts?

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Aku's new voice. Thoughts?

Well it's not Mako, but it's literally the next best thing. Aku's new voice is Greg Baldwin, who was Mako's understudy for years and took over as Iroh in Avatar when Mako died.

No one can ever replace Mako. Just try and fill his shoes.

And that was an intense episode. Looks like I'm wrong about the blood, in spades.

Jack slitting that woman's throat shocked him as much it probably shocked the audience.

He simply thought they were robots, like all the others. lol

Also this show just simply has some of the best sound design. When he did that the sound just hit harder than any robot motion possibly could.

I really hope Jack doesn't end up kill all of them. Those poor kids.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Also this show just simply has some of the best sound design. When he did that the sound just hit harder than any robot motion possibly could.

I really hope Jack doesn't end up kill all of them. Those poor kids.

Well, he brought the whole place down around their ears, so he couldn't be too comcerned if they live or die.

Not true. He'd been hounded by them for what seemed like hours. Or even if it was just the 20 minutes of the show, he's been a warrior for at least 70 years. He knows how capable and powerful they are, and that collapsing the temple wouldn't kill them.

His concern was obvious when he slit her throat. As he has killed biological creatures before, but never a human. Much less a human teenage girl.

Originally posted by cdtm
Knowing Genndy, I don't think we have to worry about getting a bloodbath or anything. The man is clearly inspired by Usagi Yojimbo, which means thoughtful writing. He was probably pressure to put in as much as he did (And none of it from Jack.)

Well this comment did not age well.

Originally posted by AuraAngel

I really hope Jack doesn't end up kill all of them. Those poor kids.

So much for that thing considering the latest episode.

Is ashi dead?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Well this comment did not age well.

No, it did not.

If Jacks message was supposed to be the moral of the story, it sort of missed the point when you consider those kids DIDN'T choose their path. It was forced on them.

They're basically brainwashed cultist's who were probably kidnapped while young and indoctrinated. They didn't even know what a deer is..

Originally posted by cdtm
No, it did not.

If Jacks message was supposed to be the moral of the story, it sort of missed the point when you consider those kids DIDN'T choose their path. It was forced on them.

They're basically brainwashed cultist's who were probably kidnapped while young and indoctrinated. They didn't even know what a deer is..

We saw them being born. They were trained to kill Jack since birth. The deer scene made their death particularly sad for me

Ah, well there it is then.

Maybe Ashi will be the lone survivor, they'll form a bond, and Jack will come to regret his choice.

In Jack's tentative defense he doesn't know that and did give them a chance.

Of course if Jack manages to get back to the past to kill Aku then those girls will get a happier life in theory.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
In Jack's tentative defense he doesn't know that and did give them a chance.

Of course if Jack manages to get back to the past to kill Aku then those girls will get a happier life in theory.

I don't blame Jack. I'm just wondering where the stories going with it.

I still have faith in Genndy, he has a pretty good track record. I'm certain this won't end with Jack self rightiously clinging to the comparison of cutthroats who made their choices (Which would be a disappointing way to leave this off.)

I will say the scenes with Jack and the dog, and Jack and Jack were awesome.

Ahh, I get it now.

Jack's speech was really to Jack. He just hasn't realized it yet.

Originally posted by cdtm
No, it did not.

If Jacks message was supposed to be the moral of the story, it sort of missed the point when you consider those kids DIDN'T choose their path. It was forced on them.

They're basically brainwashed cultist's who were probably kidnapped while young and indoctrinated. They didn't even know what a deer is.. It's dramatic irony. Jack is justifying his killing of the Daughters of Aku with a moral his father taught him, completely unaware that it doesn't apply to them at all, because they've never been allowed to make their own choices for their entire lives. It's actually a pretty great deconstruction of the moral.

I miss Mako.

Best episode of Samurai Jack yet!

Originally posted by cdtm
Best episode of Samurai Jack yet!

Wow why don't you just stab the ghost of Mako in the heart.

I'm totally shipping Jack and Ashi now.

She's 16 and he's 75?

I've seen no numbers listed anywhere, I'll assume she is an adult with that figure.

Regardless, thats legal where I am anyway. lol

Genndy didn't disappoint, he's definately playing out the "chose their path" angle.

Good thing I manually set my dvr that would have skipped the "repeat".

No shipping please. Shipping has f-cked up otherwise great shows and is probably what killed the Naruto series aside from the author's constant asspulls.

Besides, Ashi seems more akin to a daughter than a romance. I think a reluctant father/daughter dynamic would do a lot more for Jack's character at this point. If he were to romance someone, it'd need to be someone who was more or less Jack's equal mentally speaking.

**** that, Jack and female Aku 4life.

So, does the destroyed time portals include the Guardians? I thought he was destined to fight Jack in a rematch (And didn't he defend the portal from even Aku in the past?)

Nice to see Scottsman again.

Ashi was too easily convinced. Nothing Jack showed her is really proof Aku was personally evil (Anyone could commit evil acts in someone elses name).

So him constantly helping her and saving her life after she calmed down. And showing her things and people Aku destroyed. And that big evil guy getting full permission to kill a village of kids and puppies on Akus order isn't enough? While her mother basically disowned her and threatened her life because she didn't blindly murder for the benevolent Aku. Come on man.

Yeah, but she was raised her entire life to believe just one thing.

Think of a brainwashed cultist. They can justify anything to support their warped vision of reality, and often take months/years to deprogram.

But Jack up and convinced her everything she was raised to believe is bunk in five minutes. (Yeah, it's a 20 minute show, but she could have put up a little more resistance, and maybe only started asking a few questions now, and come around some episodes down the line.)

Can Aku destroy Scottsman's soul, I wonder?

I personally don't like how quickly Aishi changed her mind. I was execting something a LOT more gradual. Payoff would've been much better in the end.

So, it's pretty obvious the sword will be recovered, but is there anything else that could be used against Aku?

He's never been completely untouchable. The guardians of that water jewel held him off, at least. And I bet the wish fairy could do something against him.

But those are all pretty narrow use plot devices. Is there anything actually obtainable?

Originally posted by cdtm
So, it's pretty obvious the sword will be recovered, but is there anything else that could be used against Aku?

He's never been completely untouchable. The guardians of that water jewel held him off, at least. And I bet the wish fairy could do something against him.

But those are all pretty narrow use plot devices. Is there anything actually obtainable? Aku himself maybe? Dude is depressed. Almost suicidally so.

And Jack is suddenly over his depression and psychological issues. Meh. Pacing is way too fast here, IMO.

He literally had to fight a ghost samurai that was feeding his despair because of his own personal failures in death. Ashi had to nearly die and show him that he'd made her life do a complete 180% despite killing all of her sisters. As well as reminding him that he did indeed save basically the entire planet in some fashion at some point in the past 50 years. In fact if the ghost didn't try to kill her, he might've still gone through with it.

Also, it was the "death" of the children that pushed him over the edge. He could handle everything else. So once she told him they were alive, why would he stay depressed to the point he was willing to commit Seppuku when he never went that far before>

Dude, it's a single season. How slow do you want it to go? There's not gonna be another 5, it's this and that's it.

Pacing's pretty spot on, just seems like you're complaining to complain.

Originally posted by KingD19
He literally had to fight a ghost samurai that was feeding his despair because of his own personal failures in death. Ashi had to nearly die and show him that he'd made her life do a complete 180% despite killing all of her sisters. As well as reminding him that he did indeed save basically the entire planet in some fashion at some point in the past 50 years. In fact if the ghost didn't try to kill her, he might've still gone through with it.All covered in the timespan of like three minutes. The idea is fine overall. It's the execution which I found lacking. Same with Ashi suddenly realizing the error of her ways. These are great ideas, but there are so many better ways to execute them when you've ten episodes to play around with. Genndy strikes me as just being too impatient.

My understanding was that he was depressed and psychologically traumatized because Aku destroyed all the time portals and there was no way to undo his evil and thus no point in his journey. Hence the "There's no way home! There's nothing to fight for!" tagline which we've heard hundreds of time via the teasers for this season. I don't see why Ashi reminding him that he's done plenty of good over the years would convince Jack that everything is going to be fine.

You can properly pace this kind of subplot in a single season. 10 episodes is plenty of time to wrap up the whole Jack's inner conflict storyline. Frankly, I was expecting it get resolved during the climax of this season (9th or 10th episode). You know, that one moment where everything ties together and the hero finally overcomes his self-doubt in a spectacular fashion right before (or even during) his final showdown with the villain. I might end up changing my mind once I've seen the entire season, but right now, it just feels premature.

And it seems like you're just fanboying to fanboy. One can appreciate Samurai Jack (which I certainly do) while also being aware of its flaws.

How old are those blind archers? Assuming they're the same trio Jack saved (And they talked like they were), they can't be human.

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
And Jack is suddenly over his depression and psychological issues. Meh. Pacing is way too fast here, IMO.

Maybe the real storyline is going to be Jack and Ashi spending 90% of the season helping Aku get therapy, so he can destroy him properly.

I think that was my favorite episode of Jack to date.

Go have a stupid question. Was ashi naked the entire time?

Yeah. All of the Daughters were. The mom dropped them in hot coals and it basically turned into a body scab.

Then how did Jack not realize they weren't robots?

Jack has banished his evil side and got his sword and outfit back. Aishi has defeated her mother out of nowhere. And the gods even had the courtesy of giving Jack a clean shave!

Hopefully, they kill Aku and go back in time in the next episode as I don't see anything else worth covering.

I think I changed my mind on whether Jack is gonna hook up with Aishi. Recent two episodes have made it clear she's waifu fodder.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Then how did Jack not realize they weren't robots?

He'd basically been fighting robots for 50 years straight. Even some of them resembled humanoids and animals. Also they didn't speak, moved in unison, and had superhuman strength, agility, etc... All the hallmarks of robots.

And he was also mired in so much self doubt and anger and etc... that he was focused purely on survival. And as of the most current episode, it's obvious that his anger personified was manipulating him to an extent.

So there's plenty of reasons.

Is it the same sword? They shot some eyebeam things at Jack.

Wondering if maybe they took Jack's worthiness and forged another sword from it. Or at least imbued his power into it.

Sort of like Inuyasha's fang repairing Tetsusaigi, so that he was symbolically relying on his own strength instead of his father's.

It's the same sword. Just they made a show of giving it back to him. The eyebeams simply bestowed him with his sword once again, as well as restoring him to his true classic appearance which was basically a way of showing that Jack was really back.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Go have a stupid question. Was ashi naked the entire time? not a stupid question. I was watching that episode with my roommate and we both went "wait wut" when she started scrubbing the black stuff off that we thought was clothing.

LOL @ anyone that didn't see that inevitability coming a mile away.

"Nah bruh its a father daughter relationship bruh".

Totally father/daughter relationship.

Next week looks to be a visit to the portal guardian. Or whatever's left of him.

The music, though. haermm

Originally posted by CosmicComet
LOL @ anyone that didn't see that inevitability coming a mile away.

"Nah bruh its a father daughter relationship bruh".

Everyone expected this to happen my man. The more intelligent among the fanbase merely hoped it wouldn't.

Genndy's pretty much just screwing around, from the look of it. Out of left field tone changes and no real pacing.

Probably never even had an endgame when he started this series, and is just in it for the money.

But why should Toriyama get all the fun? More power to him, nobody gave a shit when he was working his ass off on good stuff.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Everyone expected this to happen my man. The more intelligent among the fanbase merely hoped it wouldn't.

That's certainly an opinion, even those among the unwashed masses like yourself are entitled to them.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That's certainly an opinion, even those among the unwashed masses like yourself are entitled to them.



Oh snap, you're gonna get called a phaggot. Try not to be blown away by the cleverness and non-childlike nature of the insult.

I really feel this season blew away a lot of its potential with some of the storytelling decisions. Take for example Scaramouch. He knows (or rather, knew) Jack didn't have his sword. As of episode 6, he was even headed back to Aku to let him know Jack doesn't have his sword. This added a EXTRA THICC layer of tension to the plot and kept viewers on the edge of their seats as to how things were going to play out. Then, lo and behold, in the next episode, Jack suddenly gets his sword back, hence immediately destroying the tension created by Scaramouch rushing back to inform Aku of his discovery.

Agreed completely.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That's certainly an opinion, even those among the unwashed masses like yourself are entitled to them.

It's an opinion, but one far more well-substantiated than those who wished them to become an item my man. For one, them being a couple is somewhat creepy. More importantly, Jack being a paternal figure to Ashi is far more fulfilling to her character arc and to the story as a whole. Do you know why my son?

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
I really feel this season blew away a lot of its potential with some of the storytelling decisions. Take for example Scaramouch. He knows (or rather, knew) Jack didn't have his sword. As of episode 6, he was even headed back to Aku to let him know Jack doesn't have his sword. This added a EXTRA THICC layer of tension to the plot and kept viewers on the edge of their seats as to how things were going to play out. Then, lo and behold, in the next episode, Jack suddenly gets his sword back, hence immediately destroying the tension created by Scaramouch rushing back to inform Aku of his discovery.

Why even bring Scaramouch back?

Originally posted by Surtur
Oh snap, you're gonna get called a phaggot. Try not to be blown away by the cleverness and non-childlike nature of the insult. I only do that to retarded phaggots like you my nigga, CosmicComet is okay by me.

Is Surtur trying to ruin my beloved Samurai jack with his phaggotness now? God damn it, not on my watch.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's an opinion, but one far more well-substantiated than those who wished them to become an item my man. For one, them being a couple is somewhat creepy. More importantly, Jack being a paternal figure to Ashi is far more fulfilling to her character arc and to the story as a whole. Do you know why my son?

Yeah, I don't really care for the romance angle. My fear was that Genndy would rush the hell out of it and essentially render Ashi as being nothing more than waifu fodder. Unfortunately, my fears have been confirmed. I believe a father/daughter relationship would've added several layers of character development to Jack and kind of bring things full circle in regards to his overall journey. Thematically, it would've also been a nice touch. She goes from having Aku for a father to having Jack for a father.

But alas, oh well. May as well enjoy the remainder of the season for what it is. Jack is finally gonna kill Aku!

The biggest reason they shouldn't have gone there:

10 year old kids have more of a sex education then Ashi.

If she didn't even know what a deer was, and never had a normal relationship with anyone before Jack, how can she give meaningful consent?

That's still more of a sex education than Goku and he turned out...fine.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
That's still more of a sex education than Goku and he turned out...fine.

Still suspiciously niave about the process, going by some recent episodes.

Are those "really" his kids? What did Chi-Chi do, take some skin and have them grown in a lab? (Or some "other" way. Don't be fooled by appearances, maybe he has closer blood relations to Vegeta then we think? )

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
I really feel this season blew away a lot of its potential with some of the storytelling decisions. Take for example Scaramouch. He knows (or rather, knew) Jack didn't have his sword. As of episode 6, he was even headed back to Aku to let him know Jack doesn't have his sword. This added a EXTRA THICC layer of tension to the plot and kept viewers on the edge of their seats as to how things were going to play out. Then, lo and behold, in the next episode, Jack suddenly gets his sword back, hence immediately destroying the tension created by Scaramouch rushing back to inform Aku of his discovery.

The problem with trying to make Scaramouche a credible threat with his attempt to inform Aku is its literally the only thing stopping the Shogun of Sorrow from obliterating Jack. Literally, without that sword, Jack is no more likely to defeat Aku than the Scotsman was, and if the story were played straight, the instant Aku knew that Jack was swordless he would not hesitate to finish him.

So if you want a bad end, I guess that works.

Without Scaramouch, to Aku it seems like Jack just finally decided to shave and kick ass.

With Scaramouch, Aku can find out that if he had quit being cowardly and faced his problems directly("We don't say his name, this is a safe place", then this could all have been avoided.

Scaramouch being brought back has absolutely nothing to do with creating tension from an external force and everything to do with punishing Aku for not dealing with his problems. It is karma and a contrast with Jack who eventually had to deal with Mad Jack.

Also if they wanted Aku to be a force of tension they would not have brought the Scotsman back immediately afterward. The show is clear in how it portrays Aku: a dangerously powerful ultimate evil that is actually quite a laughable coward in reality.

In other words, this is Aku's story. He'll learn a valuble lesson and after much struggle and change, have a final showdown, completing his heroes journey.

Originally posted by cdtm
In other words, this is Aku's story. He'll learn a valuble lesson and after much struggle and change, have a final showdown, completing his heroes journey. lol

Originally posted by NemeBro
lol

You didn't insult anyone on that page.

Are you ok, mate ?

He insults because he cares and he doesn't care about cdtm.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
You didn't insult anyone on that page.

Are you ok, mate ? Yeah I'm doing pretty good, how about you?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
He insults because he cares and he doesn't care about cdtm. And people say I'm savage, jeez.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah I'm doing pretty good, how about you?

Fine. Thanks.

First episode I've legitimately enjoyed since the fourth episode. Looking forward to the finale!

Portal Guaaaardian!

How did Jack just walk there? Didn't he hitch a ride on a bird to the top of a mountain the first time or something?

Originally posted by cdtm
Portal Guaaaardian!

How did Jack just walk there? Didn't he hitch a ride on a bird to the top of a mountain the first time or something? This is one of those shows where people get from point A to point B at the speed of plot!

Lol. I really don't know what to say about this finale.

On the bright side, I'm glad I can finally close this chapter of my childhood. On the negative side, having watched all 10 episodes of season 5, I can say with confidence that Genndy was winging it as he went along and that he never had any idea how he was going to wrap things up even while writing this season. What happened is that his bank account was running low so he decided to cash in on the Samurai Jack cash cow.

It's as if Genndy was writing this episode at the last minute. As if it only occured to him that Ashi would not exist if not for Aku after Genndy wrote the wedding scene and everything. Except at that point, Genndy just says "f*ck it" and rolls with it. I have no problem with a melancholy ending, but this ending has to be one of the laziest and anticlimactic endings I've seen in some time.

What should have happened is Jack kills Aku in the future and then we get a compelling moment where he has to choose between staying in the future with Ashi or leaving her behind in order to undo Aku's evil. The obvious fact that Ashi would cease should've been given some discussion and debate. Or heck, even better, just have Ashi sacrifice herself during the battle with Aku so Jack no longer has to worry about killing her. Or heck, in the alternative, address the fact that Aku is still technically alive as long as Ashi is alive. The twist from 9th episode had sooooo much potential, but Genndy blew it. This episode was pure laziness.

Don't get me wrong. This season had some great moments. The first four episodes were borderline perfect (aside from rushing the hell out of Ashi's character arc at the end of the fourth). The ninth episode, my distaste for Jack/Ashi pairing aside, was also amazing in how it raised the tension and created the setup for a fantastic finale. Every other episode, IMO, was either meh, rushed, anticlimactic, pointless or just plain bad.

He must be a fan of Gurren Lagann.

Good send off. Farewell Samurai.

I'd rather Jack had stayed in the future. It's what I've been anticipating this whole series. The lives he saved, the friends he made. Especially now that he's got a girlfriend he should've known killing Aku in the past would grimly affect her. GEE I WONDER WHY!

Disappointing finale. The ending was way too rushed. There wasn't even a goodbye to his friends in the future.

So, why not kill Aku before he sends Jack into the future? Because it would create a paradox and wipe out future Jack?

But by killing Aku, who sent future Jack back to the past? Did Genndy try and create a stable time loop and flub it, or did he know it has problems?

Killing Aku simply prevented the events of Samurai Jack from happening. A new timeline is created when he just kills Aku in the past. And in a way, that's a blessing for almost everyone, as they will all exist, but never go through the hardship of Aku's reign. Blind Archers never become slaves to the well. 300 never have to fight the Minotaurs. Woolies never get enslaved, etc, etc...

Originally posted by KingD19
Killing Aku simply prevented the events of Samurai Jack from happening. A new timeline is created when he just kills Aku in the past. And in a way, that's a blessing for almost everyone, as they will all exist, but never go through the hardship of Aku's reign. Blind Archers never become slaves to the well. 300 never have to fight the Minotaurs. Woolies never get enslaved, etc, etc...

Sure, but young Jack was still sent forward in time. And with Aku's death, he should be stuck there. No Aku to create Ashi, and no Ashi to send his older self back.

Old Jack killing Aku before he could send young Jack forward, and then old Jack and Ashi fading away as the timeline reset would have made more sense.

Young Jack will eventually meet and defeat the Guardian.

Originally posted by KingD19
Killing Aku simply prevented the events of Samurai Jack from happening. A new timeline is created when he just kills Aku in the past. And in a way, that's a blessing for almost everyone, as they will all exist, but never go through the hardship of Aku's reign. Blind Archers never become slaves to the well. 300 never have to fight the Minotaurs. Woolies never get enslaved, etc, etc...

A new timeline isn't created. The old one is simply changed. Which is why Ashi disappeared as she never existed. And no, it wouldn't be a blessing for nearly everyone as the people Jack met in the future would no longer exist either. Quite disturbing really.

Originally posted by cdtm
Old Jack killing Aku before he could send young Jack forward, and then old Jack and Ashi fading away as the timeline reset would have made more sense. Infinitely more sense.

Originally posted by cdtm
Sure, but young Jack was still sent forward in time. And with Aku's death, he should be stuck there. No Aku to create Ashi, and no Ashi to send his older self back.

Old Jack killing Aku before he could send young Jack forward, and then old Jack and Ashi fading away as the timeline reset would have made more sense.

There aren't 2 Jack's. It's all the same Jack. He was sent forward in time in Episode 1 of Season 1. Ashi went back with him to the same instant he left, and he killed Aku. Meaning he never went forward in time in the first place.

And how does Aku being dead mean the future doesn't happen? Just because he's not in it doesn't mean everyone else will never exist. Jack will just never see it.

But he DID get sent to the future. Aku being killed AFTER Jack is sent forward wouldn't undo that. Not any more then destroying a plane after the passengers depart would prevent their trip.

It WOULD undo Aku existing in the future, though.