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Evil Spider-man and evil Wolverine. Or, is it the villain who's better than Spider-man and the villain who isnt as good as Wolverine?

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Venom

Originally posted by Inhuman
Venom
Every. Single. Time.

Haha, okay thanks guys!

Venom outclasses Sabes in every single way except fighting skill which is negated by being able to become invisible and attack from multiple directions at once. Hell, no point in even going over it all. Venom straight up knocks his ass out, rips him in half, suffocates, or tosses his ass to Brooklyn.

The symbiote structure takes away every advantage Sabes has. Creed is dead

It's a good fight, actually... but Venom - just like Creed - had many upgrades and without exploiting his weaknesses, he may be harder to put down.

Neither can kill the other. Speed is similar. Both can recover nigh-instantly from brain trauma... suffocation trick is Venom's best chance to get a KO win first.

Appreciate the devil's advocating Stilt.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's a good fight, actually... but Venom - just like Creed - had many upgrades and without exploiting his weaknesses, he may be harder to put down.

Neither can kill the other. Speed is similar. Both can recover nigh-instantly from brain trauma... suffocation trick is Venom's best chance to get a KO win first.

Venom is faster, much much much stronger, better healing factor( regenerated head in minutes) and its already been shown wolverine cant hurt him with his claws


Sabertooth has 0 chance to win here. Im not sure whats up with all these Creed threads all of the sudden but he getting way overhyped. He is a badass but hes about to get his ass beat.

Is he winning in all those threads?
I havent read them.
Saw this fight at a different site and had a venom pic handy, so thats how this one got started.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Venom is faster, much much much stronger, better healing factor( regenerated head in minutes) and its already been shown wolverine cant hurt him with his claws


Sabertooth has 0 chance to win here. Im not sure whats up with all these Creed threads all of the sudden but he getting way overhyped. He is a badass but hes about to get his ass beat.

He's not faster. His speed has been described as rivaling that of Reilly. So it's pretty much equal to Parker, even though Parker considers himself faster.

Wolverine made Spider-Man questioning his speed; they're very close in the speed department, with only a slight edge going to Spidey.

Now Creed's been faster than Logan since day one - and has gotten much faster than that thanks to his many upgrades. So if anything, it seems that Victor actually holds an advantage in speed. Thing is, they're both "tanks", so they're acting sloppy, not utilizing their speed and agility properly most of the time.

Venom's regenerated his brain after it's been sliced by Crossbones - good for him. First such a feat after NUMEROUS upgrades. Creed's done it before his first upgrade ever, when Dum Dum Dugan blew his brains out at point-blank range...

It's been shown that Wolverine could cut his entire arm off if he wanted to.

Venom is overhyped, actually - like most symbiotes. They're not unstoppable.

I usually dont buy the "character cant be beat" scenario, so your argument is pretty cool, from my PoV.

Originally posted by riv6672
I usually dont buy the "character cant be beat" scenario, so your argument is pretty cool, from my PoV. his arguments are almost always good. He's the best there is at what he does and what he does is debate for wolverine characters.

I never said symbiotes cant be beat. Just not by Creed. I will concede the speed part as Venom is actually faster but he rarely uses it and Creed's skill and own speed should negate that.

I actually see Creed tagging (eddie, who im assuming because of pic) more than vice versa. Venom can knock Sabes out but not the other way around. Or simply use tendrils to hold him. I like Creed, I just don't see a way for him to win a single match. But its not like Venom can permanently put Creed down either so there is that.

If it was someone without Venom's unique body composition but same stats I would give it to Creed handily. The thing is cutting damage doesn't do much for symbiotes

Exactly, even if they cut through steel it doesent matter, if Logans foot long claws arent hurting them, Creed's inch long talons shouldnt even be noticed.

Both are awesome but Venom is more awesome.uhuh


Great sig Zop!

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I never said symbiotes cant be beat. Just not by Creed. I will concede the speed part as Venom is actually faster but he rarely uses it and Creed's skill and own speed should negate that.

I actually see Creed tagging (eddie, who im assuming because of pic) more than vice versa. Venom can knock Sabes out but not the other way around. Or simply use tendrils to hold him. I like Creed, I just don't see a way for him to win a single match. But its not like Venom can permanently put Creed down either so there is that.
Well put, great response.