Will Kanan make Grievous look bad?

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Darth Abonis
In the upcoming Kanan comic, it shows Kanan facing Grievous. Will Kanan actually be able to hold his own against Grievous, making him look weaker then ever?

|King Joker|
If he does then holding your own against canon Grievous might as well not even be a feat anymore lol

DarthAnt66
Didn't Grievous destroy Depa so hard she was knocked into a ****ing coma?

I think Kanan will get wrecked.

Darth Abonis
Lol indeed

chilled monkey
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Didn't Grievous destroy Depa so hard she was knocked into a ****ing coma?

No, they never fought. Read "Shatterpoint" to find out how Depa ended up in that coma.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by chilled monkey
No, they never fought. Read "Shatterpoint" to find out how Depa ended up in that coma.

Shatterpoint's not Canon.

In any case all we know is Grievous's forces overpowered Depa's forces. We don't know anything beyond that at this point.

That said TCW S5 Ahsoka barely held her own against Grievous. So Padawan Kanan will get wrecked, and likely saved by Depa.

Syndicate
I'll legitimately cry if he does. Holy ****amole I hate what Lucas did to him.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by chilled monkey
No, they never fought. Read "Shatterpoint" to find out how Depa ended up in that coma.

So behind the times...

Zenwolf
So it's ok for Ahsoka to fight Grevious, yet Kanan can't?

Syndicate
Originally posted by Zenwolf
So it's ok for Ahsoka to fight Grevious, yet Kanan can't?

It's not ok. None of it is. I hate having to give her credit for that and I would hate to have to give Kanan credit for it either.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Zenwolf
So it's ok for Ahsoka to fight Grevious, yet Kanan can't?

Well Ahsoka's >>> Kanan.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Syndicate
It's not ok. None of it is. I hate having to give her credit for that and I would hate to have to give Kanan credit for it either.

Well I'm just pointing it out that Ahsoka was able to as a Padawan, yet Kanan can't because.....reasons. Now I realize before someone comes in "Ahsoka is better" right I get that, but I mean I'm not saying Kanan has to win or anything, but he can certainly fight.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well Ahsoka's >>> Kanan.

Yes see I knew this was gonna come up, but as I said he doesn't have to win. But he certainly can fight. Now how long this fight will last remains to be seen, if there is one.

Syndicate
*Sigh* Kanan is likely going to hold Grievous off for a time before his master comes and they drive him off.

Edit: The best I can hope for is that Depa will also arrive with a contingent of heavily armed clones which Grievous realizes he can't fight all at once. They did that in Star Wars: Clone Wars 2003 so I'd be fine if they did that here.

|King Joker|
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Well I'm just pointing it out that Ahsoka was able to as a Padawan, yet Kanan can't because..... He has less dueling experience, less training, and inferior training (in terms of preparing one for combat. Anakin's training is much more combatively focused and hands on compared to Depa's). Ahsoka holding her own against Grievous is explainable and makes some sense.

Syndicate
Originally posted by |King Joker|
He has less dueling experience, less training, and inferior training (in terms of preparing one for combat. Anakin's training is much more combatively focused and hands on compared to Depa's). Ahsoka holding her own against Grievous is explainable and makes some sense.

No it doesn't. None of it makes sense. *Goes into an emotional breakdown about what Lucas did to my baby*

Zenwolf
Originally posted by |King Joker|
He has less dueling experience, less training, and inferior training (in terms of preparing one for combat. Anakin's training is much more combatively focused and hands on compared to Depa's). Ahsoka holding her own against Grievous is explainable and makes some sense.

Doesn't mean he still can't fight Grevious, but again how long or even if there will be one remains to be seen. All Jedi are trained for combat, sure Ahsoka might have better but Kana would still have some.

DId Anakin even actually train her though? I don't recall.

Dark-Kenshin
TCW Grievous was repeatedly a bungling laughing stock anyway. Felt like a scooby doo villain to be honest. laughing

chilled monkey
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Shatterpoint's not Canon.

Actually it is. They confirmed it in the comic.

Syndicate
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Actually it is. They confirmed it in the comic.

Just because Bane was in TCW it doesn't confirm the canonicity of his trilogy?

Darth Thor
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Actually it is. They confirmed it in the comic.


All they confirmed was that Depa was in a coma, and possibly went a bit loola first. But there's no way a single comic could confirm a whole novel.

People need to let Legends = Canon go. Parts of established Legend facts are being adopted by Canon, but not entire novels.

NewGuy01
Especially considering that Depa's a confirmed Soresu specialist in the New Canon, not a Vaapad practitioner.

chilled monkey
Originally posted by Darth Thor
All they confirmed was that Depa was in a coma, and possibly went a bit loola first.


Which is what happened in "Shatterpoint." Ergo "Shatterpoint" is canon.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
But there's no way a single comic could confirm a whole novel.

It doesn't need to. As long as the novel doesn't directly contradict anything in the (ugh) "new" canon, it should still be considered canon. There's no reason not to.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Especially considering that Depa's a confirmed Soresu specialist in the New Canon, not a Vaapad practitioner.

Allow me to explain it to you. Vaapad is basically a refined version of Juyo (i.e. it's still Form VII, not a separate Form). To become a Juyo master you need to have first mastered other Forms.

Also I refer you to the Inquisitor's line "for close-quarters fighting Billaba's emphasis was always on Form III." He is saying it right there; she used Form III under specific conditions.

Plus it would be safe to assume that after she regained her sanity she never used Vaapad again and focused entirely on Form III.

I'm just saying that if you want them to fit together they can.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Ergo "Shatterpoint" is canon.

rip all logic

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
rip all logic

ares834
Originally posted by chilled monkey
It doesn't need to. As long as the novel doesn't directly contradict anything in the (ugh) "new" canon, it should still be considered canon. There's no reason not to.

http://www.troll.me/images/yoda-senses/the-denial-is-strong-with-this-one.jpg

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Not really. Whatever you want to be canon, is canon! smile

Darth Abonis
Shatterpoint is not canon. Depa turned to the dark side in that one. If and when she came out of a coma, they wouldn't let her be a Jedi again.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Which is what happened in "Shatterpoint." Ergo "Shatterpoint" is canon.




facepalm


Originally posted by Darth Abonis
Shatterpoint is not canon. Depa turned to the dark side in that one. If and when she came out of a coma, they wouldn't let her be a Jedi again.



Unfortunately Dark Disciple proves the Jedi are capable of doing that.


Regardless some people are clearly still having a hard time accepting Legends is not Canon. And I'm betting listening to Jensari doesn't help.

Beniboybling
Grievous was already humiliated by Quinlan in DD, it can hardly get any worse.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Grievous was already humiliated by Quinlan in DD, it can hardly get any worse.
Grievous never had a chance to activate his weapons, and Vos also humiliated Dooku, so that's one of the more excusable ones relatively speaking.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Grievous never had a chance to activate his weapons, and Vos also humiliated Dooku, so that's one of the more excusable ones relatively speaking. It wouldn't have been so bad if Vos hadn't casually dodged and chopped off his hands. But sure.

On topic though, Canon Grievous seems a little more bad@ss in the comics (SoD) than the cartoon.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Beniboybling
It wouldn't have been so bad if Vos hadn't casually dodged and chopped off his hands. But sure.
Vos not having trouble with Grievous's attacks... while he's unarmed... is bad for Grievous?

Syndicate
Actually... I wouldn't mind now if Kanan did well against Grievous...

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Vos not having trouble with Grievous's attacks... while he's unarmed... is bad for Grievous? An absence of a weapon isn't exactly going to make Grievous slower.

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