Whis vs Beerus/Champa/Goku/Vegeta

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carver9
Is Whis powerful enough to take out this team?

BeyonderGod
Wow this post is just wow. laughing out loud

AuraAngel
Whis of course.

U need Leonard
You can probably add Freeza, too. Whis just shuts Beerus down far too easily. He's also stated that he's faster than Beerus, too and is able to take Goku and Vegeta on without much effort.

Since we know Goku and Beerus have the power to destroy the universe; we can assume Champa and Vegeta will do the same. Well Champa out-right stated he didn't care about destroying the universe and stopped holding back in his fight with Beerus, showing that he was about to. If they all combined their destructive efforts, they may be capable of serious damage. Still, Whis might be too fast and they really don't have a way around his time control or his ability to send them to other dimensions.

I want to say Whis due to speed and versatility, but there's just too much I don't know about him. He is a mystery.

BeyonderGod
laughing out loud

AuraAngel
You know Beyonder for a guy that gets pissy about people not taking your threads seriously you sure are quick to do the same to other threads.

But yeah Whis obviously wins.

BeyonderGod
Originally posted by AuraAngel
You know Beyonder for a guy that gets pissy about people not taking your threads seriously you sure are quick to do the same to other threads.

But yeah Whis obviously wins.
Pissy? Nah I dont really care if people do or dont reply to my threads it would be derailed by the DB fansboys anyway. thumb up

SSJGGogeta
Yeah, Whis takes this easily. The only thing that the team could do is blow up the universe, or more, and kill themselves, leaving Whis to facepalm before he had to turn back time, and knock them all out with neck chops to come out on top.

And that's casual Whis. I can't imagine if he was bloodlusted. He'd kill them all with a flick of his wrist. Even if you included Frieza.

bbrem123
Agreed with everybody here. Whis wins this easily. I wonder if we will ever see bloodlust Whis.

StiltmanFTW
Whis for now.

Sj_Sharp
I'm going to be that guy right now and I say that Goku and Vegeta, as for the good, old vintage DBZ style, perform the fusion dance and form SSGSS Gogeta, who then proceeds to beat Whis to death by using Beerus and Champa as beaters. devil

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by Sj_Sharp
I'm going to be that guy right now and I say that Goku and Vegeta, as for the good, old vintage DBZ style, perform the fusion dance and form SSGSS Gogeta, who then proceeds to beat Whis to death by using Beerus and Champa as beaters. devil

Maybe fusion doesn't work with gods. Who knows. I could see Toriyama making it impossible for two gods to fuse, because they'd be too strong.

But if they could, yeah, SSJGSSJ Gogeta would win. That's not the thread though.

StiltmanFTW
I could see the fusion working only for a brief time, like with SSJ4 Gogeta.

Kento
Whis, simply because its DB and throwing a large number of weaker guys at someone means nothing.

TheBadguy
I muse be the only one who thinks vegetto in buu saga is in these guys' league

Astner
Whis should be able to take out anyone on the team in one hit.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by TheBadguy
I muse be the only one who thinks vegetto in buu saga is in these guys' league You are.

bbrem123
Originally posted by TheBadguy
I muse be the only one who thinks vegetto in buu saga is in these guys' league Really how do you come to this conclusion?

StiltmanFTW
If Vegito went SSJ3, then we could talk about it a bit, I guess...

bbrem123
ehh still no imo ha

carver9
First form Frieza would kill Vegito. That's first form. Final Form wouldn't even register Vegito as a threat. Beerus is above Frieza by a high margin. No, Super Saiyan 3 Vegito will not suffice.

StiltmanFTW
First form Frieza has no feats aside from shitstomping Gohan and one-shotting Kamiccolo. Those are not enough to suggest he'd deal with Vegito.

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
First form Frieza has no feats aside from shitstomping Gohan and one-shotting Kamiccolo. Those are not enough to suggest he'd deal with Vegito.

Stomping Gohan who is MUCH more powerful than his mystic self. That is enough imo.

StiltmanFTW
Vegito was much more powerful than Buuhan, who was much more powerful than Mystic Gohan cool

bbrem123
Was he much more powerful than his mystic self? His and Piccolo'a comments made it seem he was not even close.

My theory to why he beat Ginyu was because Ginyu was not accustom to his body yet, similar to what happened when he took Goku's body.

StiltmanFTW
The only explanation that makes sense: they didn't care one bit when they were making that arc, lol.

bbrem123
Haha yup seems about right.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by carver9
Stomping Gohan who is MUCH more powerful than his mystic self. That is enough imo.

Since when is a Gohan who hadn't trained in over a year, and could BARELY go SSJ1, stronger than Mystic Gohan. Gohan in the track suit was weaker than he was during the World Tournament.

Base Vegetto was more powerful than Buuhan, who was stronger than a version of Buu who was over twice as strong as Super Buu. Super Buu was superior to SSJ3 Goku. Meaning that Base Vegetto was literally over 16 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku, at least.

Gohan from the ROF movie, and that saga in the anime, was barely stronger than Piccolo, maybe twice as strong as him at most. And Piccolo was only average SSJ1 level. Meaning that the Gohan that Frieza one-shotted was literally only about twice as strong as SSJ1 Goten. SSJ1 Gohan from the World Martial Arts tournament was about that strong.

Basically, we don't know how strong Final form Frieza was, and we only know that First Form Frieza was at least SSJ2 tier.

Base Vegetto was literally stronger than any character in the entirety of DBZ. Buuhan included, who was the previous two strongest characters combined, plus two other Saiyan's, and Piccolo. And Beerus had to use 10% on Vegeta in the anime.

Vegeta is one of Vegetto's parts, and is therefor much weaker. While SSJ3 Goku was weaker than SSJ2 Enraged Vegeta, there is no way that SSJ2 Vegeta became literally 64 times stronger. Which is how much stronger he would need to become to defeat Base Vegetto, as SSJ3 Goku was 4 times stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta, and Base Vegetto was at least 16 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku. SSJ2 Vegeta might have gotten like a 5X boost or something, AT MOST. So that still puts Base Vegetto comfortably in Beerus's level. And no matter what you argue, SSJ1 Vegetto would still be above even Whiss, going by the simple numbers.

However, we all know that this is not how a fight between them would go. In a canon fight, I could see SSJ1 Vegetto being equal to Whiss. But either way, SSJ1 Vegetto is still a ridiculously high contender, and I don't think you guys realize just how OP he is.

Amici
Naw

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by Amici
Naw

Yeah, I was mistaken trying to use logic to determine the strength of DBS characters.

Honestly, final form Frieza would probably one-shot Super Vegetto.

Super Vegetto from the Buu saga, that is.

Inedian
Originally posted by carver9
Stomping Gohan who is MUCH more powerful than his mystic self. That is enough imo.

Far from it.

Whis wins.

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