Malgus and Maul vs Vader

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Kurk
Everyone in their prime.

If team loses, add Savage Opress.

Takes place on Lothal

NewGuy01
Maul, Savage, and Malgus vs Vader? Overkill lol

Agusto Pinochet
Savage and Maul beat Vader together no point of using Malgus.

carthage
Vader gets curbstomped

Tondemonai
Malgus could very nearly solo. I hold Vader just above Malgus, but in terms of intelect and strategic scope Malgus is much higher, so throwing anyone in with him is overkill. Savage and Maul would win too. No matter how you pare it up team 1 wins. If it was Maul and Malgus vs Vader and Savage it would be a much closer and more badass fight.

Darth Martin
Malgus solos.

EmperorSidious2
Vader would take Malgus defintlly. Add in maul not sure all depends if he can get him out,of,the fight fast enough.

Darth Martin
Malgus is the better duelist, has similar Force abilities, along with superior maneuverability.

He's basically a superior version of Vader's presuit self in every way.

carthage
Malgus isn't better than Vader in anything

Emperordmb
Either could challenge on their own, together they overwhelm him.

DarthAnt66
@carthage: Lightning?

NewGuy01
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@carthage: Lightning?

Vader is better, he just chooses not to use such quaint tactics.

Darth Martin
Originally posted by carthage
Malgus isn't better than Vader in anything He's defeated superior swordsman. Has equally impressive damage soak, superior agility, and comparable as a force wielder.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Darth Martin
He's defeated superior swordsmen.

Name one.



Never seen him fight with missing limbs.



Vader can fly.



Loosely.

FreshestSlice
Lulz, Malak isn't even loosely comparable to Vader in the Force. No one who gets taken out by grenades is. Even RotJ Luke is better than that.

NewGuy01
Obviously.

FreshestSlice
I meant Malgus, but I'm guessing your answer wouldn't change either way. It's the only intelligent one.

Darth Martin
Who was taken out by grenades? I remember him tanking it.

Malgus' sword skills have outclassed Satele twice. Darach and Zallow are far above the Jedi Vader deals with. Vader's been hit by Luke as of ESB.

Perhaps not but he's also never got one of his limbs hacked off either. He's nimble while being impossibly physically strong and durable at the same time.

Vader may have more raw power and overall control but Malgus is still fairly respectable as a Force wielder. Seemingly at least Dooku level.

FreshestSlice
Lulz. None of those people are above anyone with a name in sabers, let alone pure sabers Vader deals with. ESB Luke is above most of that list at this point, and no he didn't. The grenades physically pushed him off the platform. Hell, in the more recent updates he just straight up dies after failing to kill the protags one on one. Malgus is nowhere near Vader.

DarthAnt66
Malgus alone can scrap 3-4/10 wins. With Maul added onto that this is a total rapeage.

Despite Vader's 38 years of showcasing, he has no impressive combat victories under his belt.

Like, not even Bastila Shan-tier shit. I'd be scared to put him up against Ventress in a lightsaber duel.

umad, freshest? smokin'

Darth Martin
ESB Luke is above that list? Jesus Christ....

FreshestSlice
What has that list actually done besides lose? Meanwhile Luke kind of actually has feats.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Malgus alone can scrap 3-4/10 wins. With Maul added onto that this is a total rapeage.

Despite Vader's 38 years of showcasing, he has no impressive combat victories under his belt.

Like, not even Bastila Shan-tier shit. I'd be scared to put him up against Ventress in a lightsaber duel.

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Darth Martin
Luke at that point hasn't done anything but lose too.

EmperorSidious2
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Malgus is the better duelist, has similar Force abilities, along with superior maneuverability.

He's basically a superior version of Vader's presuit self in every way.

I would say Vader is the better deulist defintlly. Similar force powers ok. Vader's are more powerful. I doubt Malgus is 80% or anywhere close to that of Sidious power, and Vader has successfully beaten characters with supeior maneuverablility.

You overestimate Malgus. What makes you think Malgus does beat Vader?

Darth Martin
His lightsaber showings are simply more impressive.

EmperorSidious2
Originally posted by Darth Martin
His lightsaber showings are simply more impressive.

Well Sidious did say Vader was the greatest Jedi killer of all time and that would include people like Malgus.

Tondemonai
Malgus is on a similar tier of saber skill but on Force he's probably above in terms of having a wider range of abilities available to him. Vader can't use Force Lighting because of his cybernetic limbs; he'd short-circuit his machinery. Vader has more raw power but Malgus has more options as well as intelect/sensibility to know not to underestimate his opponent. Malgus could take 4.5/10 rounds, but throw literally anyone in and it's gg.

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Luke at that point hasn't done anything but lose too.
False.

DarthAnt66
Saying ESB Skywalker is above all those guys is borderline Neph, Freshest.

FreshestSlice
Maybe, although it's pretty ironic given that it's Neph and LeGenD's amazing arguments that soured the entire era for me. Not to mention Darths and Dark Council members, as well as the ****ing Battlemaster, losing to muggles. Then you get statements like, "I started killing Jedi when I was five." TOR might be the worst era power-wise. Besides, I said most, not all.

EmperorSidious2
Originally posted by Tondemonai
Malgus is on a similar tier of saber skill but on Force he's probably above in terms of having a wider range of abilities available to him. Vader can't use Force Lighting because of his cybernetic limbs; he'd short-circuit his machinery. Vader has more raw power but Malgus has more options as well as intelect/sensibility to know not to underestimate his opponent. Malgus could take 4.5/10 rounds, but throw literally anyone in and it's gg.

He is below Vader in saber skill. The people Vader can contend with aren't the people Malgus can contend with. Vader can just block his lightning with his saber, and I'm sure Vader's display of TK is much more powerful than Malgus and his barriers are no doubt more powerful aswell.

McP
Agree that Vader is superior to Malgus in almost everything, but the team takes this every single time.

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