Commander Karbin (Vader down) runs a lightsaber gauntlet

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carthage
Warmup: Sirak

1. Aayla Secura
2. Luminara Unduli
3. Pong Krell
4. Plo Koon
5. Kit Fisto
6. Ben Kenobi
7. Asajj Ventress
8. Savage Opress

Boss: TPM Maul

carthage
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=614845&pagenumber=12#post15548988

(Scans of his duel with Vader at bottom of the page)

carthage
no one at all?

cs_zoltan
Plo or Fisto.

ares834
Damn near impossible to tell how good he is. He has been in one duel. According to Cylo he is apparently an enhanced Grievous but that could simply be a maker hyping his own creation.

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by ares834
According to Cylo he is apparently an enhanced Grievous.

I hate him already.

carthage
What has Canon Plo done to suggest he could match Karbin's feat against Vader?

ares834
mhmm

Good point. Karbin fared decently against someone who has been canonically confirmed to be both a better duelist and more powerful than Palpatine.

cs_zoltan
You never said it's canon only.

Btw what's the timeline of that duel? ANH?

Zenwolf
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
You never said it's canon only.

Btw what's the timeline of that duel? ANH?

Post ANH.

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Post ANH.

Oh, in that case Vader wasn't much of a duelist then.

Plo > Ben most likely.

So yeah he stops at Plo.

ares834
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Oh, in that case Vader wasn't much of a duelist then.

confused

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Oh, in that case Vader wasn't much of a duelist then.

LMFAO.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Oh, in that case Vader wasn't much of a duelist then.


confused

Says?...Where?

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by Zenwolf
confused

Says?...Where?

He was challanged by an old, out of practice Kenobi, meaning he is well below RotS Kenobi. If that's not enough then Fight saber says it.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
He was challanged by an old, out of practice Kenobi, meaning he is well below RotS Kenobi. If that's not enough then Fight saber says it.

This is a canon source? If not, then it's moot.

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by Zenwolf
This is a canon source? If not, then it's moot.

ANH is canon. Ben getting old as **** is canon. Him challanging Vader is canon.

Is there a canon source saying ANH Vader is an awesome duelist?

FreshestSlice
Is there a canon statement saying ANH Ben isn't? Because the script for ANH calls Vader's strikes"masterful" and as fast as lightning.

Trocity
We've all seen ANH, look how slow and bad he is.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
ANH is canon. Ben getting old as **** is canon. Him challanging Vader is canon.

Is there a canon source saying ANH Vader is an awesome duelist?

The script and canon accolades say Vader is a fantastic duelist as of ANH.

I'm not sure why getting old would be any issue for Ben, when you have old guys still being able to put up fights anyway.

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by Zenwolf
The script and canon accolades say Vader is a fantastic duelist as of ANH.

I'm not sure why getting old would be any issue for Ben, when you have old guys still being able to put up fights anyway.

Because he was wanking on Tatooine for 20 years?

cs_zoltan
I love how people were up in arms when Disney said the EU is dead, and now every be like "Legends? **** that shit."

Zenwolf
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Because he was wanking on Tatooine for 20 years?

So? He clearly still knows how to defend himself and fight.

At any rate, I don't see an aged Ben being able to defend against 4 lightsabers like he did his younger self.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I love how people were up in arms when Disney said the EU is dead, and now every be like "Legends? **** that shit."

Nah I still much prefer Legends.

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by Zenwolf
So? He clearly still knows how to defend himself and fight.

Obviously. But Legends source clearly states he is shit. There is no Canon source that contradict it afaik. I don't see how the whole intention of Lucas that they aren't as good as they used to be is suddenly irrelevant.

carthage
I'm curious how Vader was so able to hold him off. If you look at some scans, Vader held him off with a one hand grip

Pretty cool imo. IMO Kenobi could hold him off mainly due to his style, but I think he'd get overwhelmed eventually

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because the script for ANH calls Vader's strikes"masterful" and as fast as lightning.

There is a difference between Master and Master though.

Padawan Aayla is a master of Ataru, and Yoda is a master of Ataru too.

SunRazer
Isn't Plo a bit high? Unless I'm missing something he's done in his Canon incarnation.

Stops at Kit or Ben, by the way.

cs_zoltan
Wtf? Who said this is canon only? We are in the EU forum ffs.

Emperordmb
Yeah specially since the warm-up is an EU character.

SunRazer
lol I skimmed through the thread and saw Carthage talking about Canon Plo and since he's the thread creator, I took that to mean that he intended for it to be Canon Plo.

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