Fate Apocrypha duo vs. Fairy Tailverse

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danteiscool
Fate Apocrypha duo are: Siegfried and Karna.

Info regarding them:

Siegfried has speed and overall agility comparable to Saber (as Rin's Servant iirc) and is strong enough to catch with one hand a powerful two-handed swing from Morded (who is Saber's equal, more or less) and not give weight to it.

He also has two Noble Phantasms, Balmung (which is almost on par with Excalibur in destructive power) and the Armor of Fafnir, which makes him immune to any attack of a B rank and lower. Only A rank strikes (such as the broken Noble Phantasm Archer nuked Berserker with in the VN/2014 anime) can hurt him and even then, he only suffers slight damage from them since his Armor reduces the power by the equivalent of a B rank attack in the process (say an A rank attack does like 800 points of damage, while a B rank does 600, Siegfried would only take 200 points of damage from it due to the reduction).

He also has enough stamina to fight from the middle of the night until dawn and still have energy to spar. And due to his legend, he does additional damage to dragons and beings with draonic origins/attributes of any kind.

As for Karna, he's physically strong enough to outright dent Siegfried's body and is just as fast as he is. He has armor that reduces all damage he takes (physical, magical, and conceptual) to 1/10 of its original value. His Noble Phantasm (forgot name) radiates A rank power normally at all times and when unleashed, it's described as being on par with modern day nukes. The only downside to activating this is permanently giving up his armor and his Noble Phantasm could only be used once.

He fought Siegfried from night until dawn without issue and they both only suffered very minor injuries from their battle. Both also have skill regarded as going beyond mankind.

Now that being said, they both are dropped in the FTverse and must fight their way from the low tiers to the top tiers.

How far can these two make it?

Q99
On rank-immunities, FT attacks don't technically have ranks, but some of them are pretty significant their own way, so I'd assume that the major combatants can still do stuff, while minor combatants will find themselves completely ineffective.....


Erza's usually one of the best bets for this kind of thing, because in addition to having tremendous power on both offense and defense, and raw speed, one of her weapons allows her to cut through magic itself.

danteiscool
Well, despite the ranks within the Nasuverse, A ranks are usually around large town to city level in destructive force iirc, so anything of a similar level in FT should be able to hurt him a bit. Yeah, lower tiered characters likely won't be able to do much at all to either of them, especially since they lack the speed; both Servants clock at about Mach 15 or so in movement speed, but with Mach 45 reflexes.

The thing is, Siegfried's Armor and Karna's aren't really magic in nature, not in that they're comprised of magic so she likely won't be able to do much to them. I also forgot to mention that in terms of sheer durability, Karna exceeds Siegfried due to his armor and other abilities.

However, on the flip side, two things: Karna has an ability where his stats/abilities will appear lower to his opponents unless they know his name while Siegfried has a leaf shaped spot on his back that isn't covered by his armor (a reference to his folklore), so hits there will hurt him fully and could likely kill him.

Q99
Most of the FT fast stuff hasn't been too clearly calced, but it can get pretty fast (In her base form, Erza can deflect dozens/hundreds of explosive homing needles. Her speed form is much faster than that, and her 'all magic into offense' form tops even that).

And then there's the top tier, Xeref and Acnologia, who I think are pretty definitely out of reach. Too tough, too powerful. Acnologia may be a dragon and thus a bit more vulnerable, but he also has no problem tossing around island-busting attacks.

danteiscool
Even then, with the armor both wear, island level attacks will only do a little damage to both Siegfried and Karna, though Sieg is more at risk due to his weak spot on his back. Zeref is the main threat though due to how his magic works, but again, Karna's armor gives him an extremely high degree of resistance to everything, magic and conceptual attacks included.

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