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Both are unarmed
Both have the same armor or clothes.

Hodor is controlled by a blood lusted Bran.

Who wins.

Mountain wins but it's close.

Though the size difference between the two is not as drastic as it was in the books, Gregor should still be stronger. Perhaps more importantly, he's a trained knight, whereas Bran is a crippled boy with no combat experience.

Gregor should win pretty easily.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Though the size difference between the two is not as drastic as it was in the books, Gregor should still be stronger. Perhaps more importantly, he's a trained knight, whereas Bran is a crippled boy with no combat experience.

Gregor should win pretty easily. Easily my ass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Easily my ass.





Nemebro should know better. Then again, maybe he doesn't.

So who do you think holds the advantage in a fight? A trained soldier (the strongest in the world, as well as one of the most lethal), or a big retard with the fighting ability of a little crippled boy?

Originally posted by NemeBro
So who do you think holds the advantage in a fight? A trained soldier (the strongest in the world, as well as one of the most lethal), or a big retard with the fighting ability of a little crippled boy? He didn't look that amazing skill wise. He's strong but so is Hodor. Mountain wins but it's closer than your fanboyism would care to admit.

Round 2
Same stips but, Jon is controlling Hodor. Jon's heart force is at full force.

Hodor would fare better under Jon's control, but Jon hasn't shown himself to be the equal of high level Westerosi knights. Gregor should still win.

Furthermore, it's worth looking at other advantages Gregor has over Hodor besides strength and skill. He's faster, a shown when he caught Oberyn's first spear and broke it, more durable as seen when he is skewered and poisoned by Oberyn but still had the strength to kill Oberyn with his bare hands, and has more stamina, as shown by Hodor being a fatass.

No one said Gregor loses just that he doesn't stomp. Calm the eff down. It's already been established Oberyn is the greatest combatant on game of thrones.

Except for the guy that killed him.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Except for the guy that killed him. So you believe circumstances don't matter. You're such a troll.

I believe that your boy died screaming.

Hodor eats his face off.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I believe that your boy died screaming. He was still more formidable. Do not ignore the context of the fight.

I promise not to ignore that he died screaming.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I promise not to ignore that he died screaming. You ignored what happened prior to.

I didn't ignore him losing the fight.

Gregor is far more sadistic and willing to hurt than either Bran, Jon or Hodor. Gregor is also in fitter shape than Hodor. Plus as has been mentioned, Gregor has loads more training than Hodor. Doesn't matter if it's Bran or Jon controlling Hodor, majority of fighting skill is about muscle memory which Hodor won't have

Originally posted by NemeBro
Though the size difference between the two is not as drastic as it was in the books, Gregor should still be stronger. Perhaps more importantly, he's a trained knight, whereas Bran is a crippled boy with no combat experience.

Gregor should win pretty easily.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't ignore him losing the fight. You ignored the context but this is your troll thing.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Except for the guy that killed him.
Dude, Oberyn absolutely destroyed Gregor, he could have easily finished him off but he wanted to keep him alive long enough to make him confess and that combined with his arrogance allowed Gregor to surprise him and kill him.

Anyone who saw that fight would see it's obvious that in a straight up fight Oberyn was superior.

Sm just took it up the poop shoot again.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Dude, Oberyn absolutely destroyed Gregor, he could have easily finished him off but he wanted to keep him alive long enough to make him confess and that combined with his arrogance allowed Gregor to surprise him and kill him.

Anyone who saw that fight would see it's obvious that in a straight up fight Oberyn was superior.

Under ideal circumstances maybe, but I'm not ignoring his CIS and taking that into account The Mountain was obviously going to win.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Under ideal circumstances maybe, but I'm not ignoring his CIS and taking that into account The Mountain was obviously going to win.
No, not under ideal circumstances. We saw how a straight up fight goes between them. Oberyn is better.

The Mountain was not *obviously* going to win, and even with Oberyn's arrogance and need to keep the Mountain alive just a little longer, it wasn't at all a given that the Mountain would be able to turn the tables. It's easy to envision a scenario where Oberyn keeps his guard up and doesn't get taken down because at that point he had every advantage.

Yes, we did see how a fight between them goes, it ended with Oberyn dying.

If it wasn't for Gregor's armor Oberyn would have finished him sooner. Just saying.

If it wasn't for Oberyn's weapons, Gregor would have killed him sooner. just saying.

Clegane...

Originally posted by Silent Master
If it wasn't for Oberyn's weapons, Gregor would have killed him sooner. just saying.

If it wasn't for Oberyn's squire having an extra spear, Gregor would have killed him sooner.

Game of Thrones doesn't operate under A>B>C logic, so you'd have to be a piss-eating cock-sucking retard to use it. Both Gregor and Oberyn are in the top tier in the setting. Though Oberyn was showboating at first, he had several close calls in the fight and it was clear that a single mistake would cost him his life. And did, in fact.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, we did see how a fight between them goes, it ended with Oberyn dying. Quit ignoring the context.

I haven't ignored the context.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I haven't ignored the context. Yes, you have.

You're wrong.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're wrong. No, I am not.

The fact that you've never won a debate says otherwise.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The fact that you've never won a debate says otherwise. You are so bitter.

That made no sense. try again.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Though the size difference between the two is not as drastic as it was in the books, Gregor should still be stronger. Perhaps more importantly, he's a trained knight, whereas Bran is a crippled boy with no combat experience.

Gregor should win pretty easily.

This. Right. Here.

Even equalizing their strength, it's a well trained warrior vs a boy in terms of skill. Who ever thinks this is a close fight is an idiot assclown.

Originally posted by Robtard
This. Right. Here.

Even equalizing their strength, it's a well trained warrior vs a boy in terms of skill. Who ever thinks this is a close fight is an idiot assclown. Calm down, cuck.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That made no sense. try again. Yes, it did but your bitterness got in the way again.

Why would you never winning a BZ make me bitter?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why would you never winning a BZ make me bitter? You keep going off topic with your emotion. Pull yourself together, bitter guy.

I've been commenting on a fight that involved one of the people in this thread, that means my posts were on-topic. so all you've done is admit that you can't read.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've been commenting on a fight that involved one of the people in this thread, that means my posts were on-topic. so all you've done is admit that you can't read. No, you ignored the context of the fight between two and then conceded. I accept.

Only I didn't ignore the context, I also didn't concede. which means that you just admitted to the entire board that you're a liar.

Originally posted by NemeBro


If it wasn't for Oberyn's squire having an extra spear, Gregor would have killed him sooner.

Game of Thrones doesn't operate under A>B>C logic, so you'd have to be a piss-eating cock-sucking retard to use it. Both Gregor and Oberyn are in the top tier in the setting. Though Oberyn was showboating at first, he had several close calls in the fight and it was clear that a single mistake would cost him his life. And did, in fact.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only I didn't ignore the context, I also didn't concede. which means that you just admitted to the entire board that you're a liar. You conceded with your emotional outbursts. I accepted.

You claiming that I had an emotional outburst doesn't make it true, I know that lying about other people is the only tactic you have. but you're not fooling anyone.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You claiming that I had an emotional outburst doesn't make it true, I know that lying about other people is the only tactic you have. but you're not fooling anyone. You do multiple times. Just get mess if you can't see past your own overwhelming moods.

Continuing to claim that I'm having emotional outbursts isn't going to suddenly make it true, at this point you're just proving my point that lying about other people is the only tactic you have.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Continuing to claim that I'm having emotional outbursts isn't going to suddenly make it true, at this point you're just proving my point that lying about other people is the only tactic you have. Dude, calm down. Just say you won't let it happen again.

Keep lying to yourself.

Best to let quano believe that Hodor with the combat skill of a boy would be a good match for the fiercest and strongest knight in Westeros. You just can't convince stupid people sometimes.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Keep lying to yourself.

Irony.

Originally posted by Robtard
Best to let quano believe that Hodor with the combat skill of a boy would be a good match for the fiercest and strongest knight in Westeros. You just can't convince stupid people sometimes. Gregor wins. I've never denied this, cuck.

Originally posted by Robtard
Best to let quano believe that Hodor with the combat skill of a boy would be a good match for the fiercest and strongest knight in Westeros. You just can't convince stupid people sometimes.

He doesn't really believe it, quan's just acting out his butt-hurt over what happened to his crush.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gregor wins. I've never denied this, cuck.

Red Herring. I never claimed or implied that you said Hodor wins; just that you think this is a good match and a "close fight", when it's neither, Gregor would crush Hodor and easily due to his superior skill and ferocity.

tl;dr version: You failed again

Originally posted by Silent Master
He doesn't really believe it, quan's just acting out his butt-hurt over what happened to his crush. Quit ignoring the context.

Originally posted by Robtard
Red Herring. I never claimed or implied that you said Hodor wins; just that you think this is a good match and a "close fight", when it's neither, Gregor would crush Hodor and easily due to his superior skill and ferocity.

tl;dr version: You failed again It is not a stomp. Gregor wins.

You are emotionally compromised.

Gregor is already bloodlusted just from who he is, adding in another bloodlust on top of this just makes him a bigger maniac.

He is liable to one shot Hodor

Originally posted by Silent Master
I haven't ignored the context.
Actually you totally have.

The fight was basically over when Gregor surprised him. Gregor had to surprise him, because in a straight up fight, Oberyn had beaten him. How is this so hard for you to understand?

Originally posted by NemeBro


If it wasn't for Oberyn's squire having an extra spear, Gregor would have killed him sooner.

Game of Thrones doesn't operate under A>B>C logic, so you'd have to be a piss-eating cock-sucking retard to use it. Both Gregor and Oberyn are in the top tier in the setting. Though Oberyn was showboating at first, he had several close calls in the fight and it was clear that a single mistake would cost him his life. And did, in fact.

The right person won that fight.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Actually you totally have.

The fight was basically over when Gregor surprised him. Gregor had to surprise him, because in a straight up fight, Oberyn had beaten him. How is this so hard for you to understand? So you agree now Oberyn is superior to him skill wise. Concession accepted, scumbag.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you agree now Oberyn is superior to him skill wise. Concession accepted, scumbag.

I don't think he ever denied it.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I don't think he ever denied it. He tried ignoring the context. He conceded. I happily accepted.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Though the size difference between the two is not as drastic as it was in the books, Gregor should still be stronger. Perhaps more importantly, he's a trained knight, whereas Bran is a crippled boy with no combat experience.

Gregor should win pretty easily. This

How are people arguing Hodors fighting capabilities? Gregor has already shown more strength and skill. This is a flat out stomp.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
This

How are people arguing Hodors fighting capabilities? Gregor has already shown more strength and skill. This is a flat out stomp.

Gregor convincingly.

Nobody's saying Hodor is weak.

It's just that Gregor is much more formidable, even if he's fighting against Hodor controlled by Bran or Jon.