God Doom vs DOV Spectre

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Insane Titan
Who wins

Time-Immemorial
Doom always wins

Surtur
What is God Doom's very best feat?

Adam Grimes
Embarrassing Thanos. But that's also Thanos' very best feat, so...

Surtur
If that is his legit best feat then DOV Spectre should win with ease.

Adam Grimes
He also killed Phoenix Force Cyclops as if he was fodder, too.

Galan007
Originally posted by Surtur
What is God Doom's very best feat? Probably the fact that he replaced Eternity:
http://i.imgur.com/nJ8TviVm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1Nyg5GPm.jpg

Surtur
Perhaps next he should replace whoever illustrated that comic.

Juntai
lol^

Juntai
I actually like Allreds' Surfer.
He's one of my favorite artists right now.
Has like a whimsical cartoony feel to it.
Not everyone needs to be Jim Lee and Perez clones.

Glorificus
Doom easily.

Galan007
Originally posted by Surtur
Perhaps next he should replace whoever illustrated that comic. Personally, I'm a fan of his work... But it's definitely its own style.

Philosophía
If a normal page takes a day to draw, those two pages posted in this thread must've took two hours.

Basic shapes, no detail, no depth, no background (this is excusable).

I've warmed up to it, though.

Juntai
Well. There's a reason for a lot of those points, Philo. They're outside of time/ space

AsbestosFlaygon
That artwork sucks. I'm surprised he got employed by Marvel/Disney.

ghostman
lol surfers legs in that scan

AsbestosFlaygon
Originally posted by ghostman
lol surfers legs in that scan
He looks like Sting, the pro wrestler.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Juntai
Well. There's a reason for a lot of those points, Philo. They're outside of time/ space thumb up

That's why I said the background being blank is excusable.

Like I said, I've warmed up to it, though I can see why some don't.

One-Punch
God Doom seemed like he got the better of Black Panther with the Infinity Gauntlet. Though BP put up a decent fight, better than Phoenix-clops who got his neck snapped like fodder lol.

Magnon
Originally posted by Galan007
Probably the fact that he replaced Eternity:
http://i.imgur.com/nJ8TviVm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1Nyg5GPm.jpg
Doom didn't replace Eternity. The being in that picture IS the Eternity of the battleworld dimension, it's not Doom.

Galan007
Originally posted by Magnon
Doom didn't replace Eternity. The being in that picture IS the Eternity of the battleworld dimension, it's not Doom. Doom usurped Eternity's power. It's explicitly stated in the comic:
http://s8.postimg.org/u3j0d3j3p/Silver_Surfer_2014_013_016.jpg

Aside from that, why else do you think Eternity was sporting Doom's mask? Halloween?

Magnon
Norrin was wrong in his initial assessment. This was explained later in the same comic.

Edit. To answer the question, Eternity was "sporting Doom's mask" because he is (tautologically) the reflection of the reality he reflects.

Galan007
Originally posted by Magnon
Norrin was wrong in his initial assessment. This was explained later in the same comic.

Edit. To answer the question, Eternity was "sporting Doom's mask" because he is (tautologically) the reflection of the reality he reflects. Well this is just incorrect.

Even in the last issue of Surfer's series, it was made clear that Doom was controlling Eternity:
http://i.imgur.com/shVY55J.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dTy7hkN.jpg

Anything else?

Magnon
Originally posted by Galan007
Well this is just incorrect.

Even in the last issue of Surfer's series, it was made clear that Doom was controlling Eternity:
http://i.imgur.com/shVY55J.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dTy7hkN.jpg

Anything else?

So you agree with my initial post, now? Doom didn't replace Eternity, just controlled him?

Galan007
Doom usurped, and therefore controlled Eternity. It is stated right there in the comic. Explicitly.

Simple logic is simple.

Magnon
Originally posted by Galan007
Doom usurped, and therefore controlled Eternity. It is stated right there in the comic. Explicitly.

Simple logic is simple.

I don't know what you mean by "usurp Eternity". But Doom did NOT replace Eternity. Controlled, sure, since he controlled the reality which Eternity represents. But he didn't REPLACE him (he didn't take his place).

Galan007
http://i.imgur.com/IjY1QYj.jpg

Magnon
I don't have any problems with that scan since I know what was said on the pages that followed it. The only problem I had was with you claiming that Doom replaced Eternity, since such a claim is incorrect.

Also, this begins to bore me. You can believe whatever you want; I just corrected your error so that the other forum members won't get wrong data.

One-Punch
"Usurp" means to take the place of someone in power illegally or by force. That's the definition.

So Doom replacing Eternity is pretty accurate.

Galan007
Originally posted by Magnon
I don't have any problems with that scan since I know what was said on the pages that followed it. The only problem I had was with you claiming that Doom replaced Eternity, since such a claim is incorrect.

Also, this begins to bore me. You can believe whatever you want; I just corrected your error so that the other forum members won't get wrong data. You are entitled to your own opinion. Personally, I think that Doom(packing the Beyonders' power) was able to usurp, and subsequently control Eternity--that also seemed to be the heavy implication in the final issue, imo. But if you didn't view the scene that way, that's fine... Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Either way, mucking with Eternity is still Doom's best feat in terms of scale... Though overcoming the IG might be better in terms of raw power(I didn't even think of that for some reason.)

Magnon
Originally posted by One-Punch
"Usurp" means to take the place of someone in power illegally or by force. That's the definition.

So Doom replacing Eternity is pretty accurate.
No, it's not accurate, at all:

replace
1. to take the place of; supersede: the manual worker is being replaced by the machine.
2. to substitute a person or thing for (another which has ceased to fulfil its function); put in place of: to replace an old pair of shoes.
3. to put back or return; restore to its rightful place

Doom didn't replace Eternity in the sense of 1, since he didn't take Eternity's place. Nor did he throw away the old Eternity and appoint a new one, so 2 doesn't apply either. Nor does 3, since Eternity was never displaced and then restored to his rightful place, by Doom.

Therefore, Doom did not replace Eternity in any of the commonly accepted interpretations of the word.

Insane Titan
So yeah Doom replaced Eternity.

One-Punch

Magnon
You can take a look at the definition of "usurp" all you want; please, feel free.

However, I don't much care since it's not the word the use of which I was criticizing.

AsbestosFlaygon
God Emperor Doom? Dafuq? This must be a parody of the Emperor of Mankind laughing out loud

So, I guess 616 Molecule Man is confirmed to be the strongest single entity in the history of Marvel/Disney comics evar (besides Mickey Mouse, ofc.) Giving Reed Beyonder powers that rival Emperor of Mankind Doom, a power that eclipses the Beyonders, the Infinity Gauntlet and Living Tribunal... that has to be Marvel's strongest feat to date.

Juntai
Originally posted by Insane Titan
So yeah Doom replaced Eternity.

Khazra Reborn
Doom wins, Hostless Spectre was lame AF.

quanchi112
Doom wins.

quanchi112
So this is telling that no one offered an argument as to Spectre. It is official Doom stomps.

SquallX
Originally posted by quanchi112
So this is telling that no one offered an argument as to Spectre. It is official Doom stomps.

That's funny, because you're also not giving a reason for Doom wining. So it's official, Spectre stomps.

quanchi112
Originally posted by SquallX
That's funny, because you're also not giving a reason for Doom wining. So it's official, Spectre stomps. More powerful. Everyone is in agreement. Cap with just magic was stomping Spectre.

SquallX
Originally posted by quanchi112
More powerful. Everyone is in agreement. Cap with just magic was stomping Spectre.

Saying Cap was winning with just magic proves how little you know.

quanchi112
Originally posted by SquallX
Saying Cap was winning with just magic proves how little you know. He was amped but magic is the best thing for the Spectre to face and he was getting smacked around.

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