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Both in their strongest incarnations
Battle takes place on Malachor V

Sabers
Force
All out

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Both in their strongest incarnations
Battle takes place on Malachor V

Sabers
Force
All out

Caedus
Caedus
Caedus

Reasons?

He has better feats?

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Reasons?
Can't see arcann doing anywhere near as well against luke than caedus did

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Reasons?

Reasons for making this one sided thread?

Caedus in all

Hmm. I was thinking from Arcann's showings against his father and the Outlander he might've been able to handle Caedus. Just from his defense of his fathers FL and such, but idk.

Arcann loses more than just his arm and half his face in this fight, that's for sure.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Hmm. I was thinking from Arcann's showings against his father and the Outlander he might've been able to handle Caedus. Just from his defense of his fathers FL and such, but idk.

Specific reasons though? All I hear is "Caedus wins" and "better feats" but where's the sources and facts? It's just stating things but not explaining what gives Caedus the edge.

It'd be easier if a certain someone finished their Caedus/Jacen RT http://r33.imgfast.net/users/3311/36/97/52/smiles/2330399501.gif

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
It'd be easier if a certain someone finished their Caedus/Jacen RT http://r33.imgfast.net/users/3311/36/97/52/smiles/2330399501.gif

We'll sooner see the Sun burn out

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
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You know its true kiddo :maybe

You could just post the content you have (up to Dark Nest or something, right?) and add to it as you go *shrugs*

Or is it that disorganized right now?

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Specific reasons though? All I hear is "Caedus wins" and "better feats" but where's the sources and facts? It's just stating things but not explaining what gives Caedus the edge.
Its norm for some members to assume that nobody can challenge Luke Skywalker in a battle. Its a long story, my friend.

More importantly, Darth Caedus indirectly benefits from the (FANON) hype of Luke Skywalker.

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As for this contest, I believe that Arcann poses a legitimate threat to Darth Caedus.

Caedus.
*Shrug* Arcann ragdolled HoT and Caedus has ragdolled Y-Wings. Don't know which is better.
Caedus probably.

Still not seeing anything solid past Syndicate. And Ant, where is that Rt? Not to mention our Kyle Katarn Rt... glare

Originally posted by hutchy1345
Can't see arcann doing anywhere near as well against luke than caedus did

I can tbh.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Caedus.
*Shrug* Arcann ragdolled HoT and Caedus has ragdolled Y-Wings. Don't know which is better.
Caedus probably.

He also collapsed a building before his prime in Traitor

Originally posted by carthage
He also collapsed a building before his prime in Traitor

How big was it?

A random TOR Jedi collapsed two buildings in The Third Lesson. Right before Malgus owned him miles from his prime.

Building feats are a little below Arcann's level.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Caedus has ragdolled Y-Wings.
No... he hasn't.

He HAS stopped the forward momentum of a B Wing *shrugs*

Which itself is a pretty solid feat and arguably better than ragdolling given the kinds of speeds dog fights can happen at

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No... he hasn't.



-LOTF Betrayal

That's considered ragdolling?

Caedus is weak af, that's Kenobi level garbage. Arcann stomps.

Originally posted by Trocity
Caedus is weak af, that's Kenobi level garbage. Arcann stomps.
He's definitely not weak

Lol Caedus destroys

Yeah, Caedus. He's demonstrated himself to be physically superior, he's a more skilled duelist, he's more powerful in general as a Skywalker, his defensive applications of the force hold up with Arcann's, and he's vastly more proficient with offensive and various esoteric applications. He's just better all around, really.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He's demonstrated himself to be physically superior,
Physically superior?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
he's a more skilled duelist,
Perhaps

But I wouldn't underestimate Arcann's dueling skills.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
he's more powerful in general as a Skywalker,
So every Skywalker is stronger then Arcann by virtue of being a Skywalker?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
his defensive applications of the force hold up with Arcann's,
Such as?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
and he's vastly more proficient with offensive and various esoteric applications. He's just better all around, really.
This is based on?

Assuming that the Outlander is Hero of Tython, Arcann utterly dominated him with his powers.

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It takes Revan-level strength to dominate Hero of Tython like that. And it takes Valkorion-level strength to dominate Arcann in turn.

I'd say a little less than Revan level strength, lol. He's good, though, to be sure.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

It takes Revan-level strength to dominate Hero of Tython like that. And it takes Valkorion-level strength to dominate Arcann in turn.
No it doesn't. The fact that someone does something does not mean that you need to be as powerful as that person to do something. The Outlander defeats Arcann in Chapter 16. The Outlander isn't as powerful as Valkorion, I'm guessing.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No it doesn't. The fact that someone does something does not mean that you need to be as powerful as that person to do something.
Vitiate failed to dominate Hero of Tython like that during a confrontation inside the Dark Temple. Granted that Vitiate was compromised in this confrontation, he still had the raw power to collapse a building and it was not enough to dominate Hero of Tython.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The Outlander defeats Arcann in Chapter 16. The Outlander isn't as powerful as Valkorion, I'm guessing.
Valkorion altered the Force-sensitivity of the Outlander and made him much stronger earlier. The permanently bolstered Outlander also forged a weapon and transformed it into an extension of his will, that he would wield against Arcann.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate failed to dominate Hero of Tython like that during a confrontation inside the Dark Temple. Granted that Vitiate was compromised in this confrontation, he still had the raw power to collapse a building and it was not enough to dominate Hero of Tython.

Yes. And? You can't exactly equate Vitiate's TK during their duel to all of his power being sealed away on Yavin IV. This also has nothing to do with the point.

I was aware long before you were. That, still, doesn't change the point. The Outlander isn't as powerful as Valkorion.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Arcann loses more than just his arm and half his face in this fight, that's for sure.

Do you really see Arcann as that lower than Caedus?

Also Im seeing my views on Caedus change he is like a 50/50 fighter..due to the conflicting arguments.

I think people have just realized he's not quite the force user they thought along with not actually being a match for Luke.

He's still top tier and above Arcann.

Yes that I know Arcaan wont win, but how bad would it be?

Because Caedus views from then to now have changed dramatically.

Originally posted by TheDarthBoy
Yes that I know Arcaan wont win, but how bad would it be?

Because Caedus views from then to now have changed dramatically.

Arcann would definitely put up a fight imo. I'm pretty sure he could handle anything Caedus could dish out with the Force but I feel he'd be outdueled.

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