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As the title says.

Maybe on the way down to hell? Or on your death bed?

I guess it depends on the dogma, but as far as I'm aware after being sent to Hell you're supposed to be beyond redemption. As of anything before that, it's more of a thing with God than a communion with the other believers, so it's near impossible to gauge it by its effects.

Well that sucks.

What if there are like sentences to hell, like you kicked your dog so 30 days in hell

Originally posted by Jesus McBurger
What if there are like sentences to hell, like you kicked your dog so 30 days in hell I don't think it works like that, buddy.

Though it might, so good thinking.

My pastor once told me that thinking things is just as bad as doing them in the eyes of God, so I'm screwed if this is all true

I always thought it was lame someone could behave in a manner that makes hell appropriate and then try to get out of it with a last minute plea for forgiveness.

Originally posted by Surtur
I always thought it was lame someone could behave in a manner that makes hell appropriate and then try to get out of it with a last minute plea for forgiveness.

That's why the Catholics invented purgatory

(Not just because of that, but I bet it linked into the discussion)

Originally posted by Bentley
That's why the Catholics invented purgatory

(Not just because of that, but I bet it linked into the discussion)

Yeah, plus purgatory has all the dead babies right? The ones that died before they could be baptised.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, plus purgatory has all the dead babies right? The ones that died before they could be baptised.

Good question, I believe at some point there was a mid concept called Limbo but then it got retconned.

That is another crazy thing, you are born into sin..that is what they say. The very act of you existing is a sin.

Originally posted by Jesus McBurger
My pastor once told me that thinking things is just as bad as doing them in the eyes of God, so I'm screwed if this is all true You and Me both, dude.

Originally posted by Surtur
That is another crazy thing, you are born into sin..that is what they say. The very act of you existing is a sin.

Our very existence upsets god, we are hardcore like that.

The whole Original Sin topic is pretty interesting, as in, very hard to explain at all from our perspective (I don't see any clear way to describe it, really). It seems more of a thing that serves some purpose than an actual object on and by itself. Then again, I'm no expert on the subject.

I also experienced pastors and brothers(the religious type) and priests saying all kinds of weird and messed up shit.

I had a brother for my spanish teacher in high school. He was like 60 and had spent most of his time as a brother in hawaii. So he'd make jokes about how he got "laid" a lot, since that is what they call it when they put that flowerly necklace around you. He also flat out said he supported the castration of homosexuals.

He was INSANE, but entertaining. He'd always play that song "que sera sera' whatever will be will be. He also had us make pinata's, I made a god damn ninja turtle that I still have.

Originally posted by Surtur
I also experienced pastors and brothers(the religious type) and priests saying all kinds of weird and messed up shit.

I had a brother for my spanish teacher in high school. He was like 60 and had spent most of his time as a brother in hawaii. So he'd make jokes about how he got "laid" a lot, since that is what they call it when they put that flowerly necklace around you. He also flat out said he supported the castration of homosexuals.

He was INSANE, but entertaining. He'd always play that song "que sera sera' whatever will be will be. He also had us make pinata's, I made a god damn ninja turtle that I still have. That sounds ****ing hilarious.

Originally posted by Surtur
I also experienced pastors and brothers(the religious type) and priests saying all kinds of weird and messed up shit.

I had a brother for my spanish teacher in high school. He was like 60 and had spent most of his time as a brother in hawaii. So he'd make jokes about how he got "laid" a lot, since that is what they call it when they put that flowerly necklace around you. He also flat out said he supported the castration of homosexuals.

He was INSANE, but entertaining. He'd always play that song "que sera sera' whatever will be will be. He also had us make pinata's, I made a god damn ninja turtle that I still have.
That's a bit harsh, I don't think I deserve to be castrated

I should of been more specific too, he supported *personally* castrating homosexuals. That is not a joke, he talked about how he'd chase one down and "cut his pecker off" if he caught a student doing something gay. This is also the same guy that poked a hole in a condom I'd accidentally dropped.

Sadly he still ended up being my favorite teacher, which should give you an idea of how creepy some of the teachers were. I mean some were just plain bizarre. One religion teacher gave us nothing but religious crossword puzzles. You would think that is something they'd do for 6 yr. olds, but I was 16. It was really strange because the religion teacher from my freshmen year had made us read the bible every day in class, and then this other guy just didn't give a shit. He also gave us those things where it's a bunch of random letters and there are words hidden in it.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
As the title says.

Maybe on the way down to hell? Or on your death bed?

I've heard stories of people being brought back to life after drowning or something like that, and saying they actually went to Hell/Heaven. If it's true I guess someone could have gone to Hell, been brought back to life, and then live a good life and end up going to Heaven.

I remember seeing a documentary where a guy temporarily died and went to "hell". Or at least a hellish place. Now he wasn't a serial killer or anything to my knowledge, I guess deep down he could of been a bad guy, but it shows the possibility that if hell exists then your deeds on earth might not matter when it comes to keeping yourself out of there.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
As the title says.

Maybe on the way down to hell? Or on your death bed?
If you have not sinned a lot.

Originally posted by Jesus McBurger
That's a bit harsh, I don't think I deserve to be castrated



I'm curious ... what exactly have you done, thought about, or experienced beyond the norm, that even makes you think you are gay?

The most recent thread I can recall of you even mentioning the topic had you saying you were interested in this one girl that you were scared to ask out, did it not?

Did you just get rejected by her and give up?

What happened here?



http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=610129

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I'm curious ... what exactly have you done, thought about, or experienced beyond the norm, that even makes you think you are gay?

The most recent thread I can recall of you even mentioning the topic had you saying you were interested in this one girl that you were scared to ask out, did it not?

Did you just get rejected by her and give up?

What happened here?



http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=610129
Im kinda weirded out by my sexuality too. I have had sex with 4 males and i my preference is usually men, but i do enjoy dating girls but i dont really like having straight sex in a pretty weird person

Thats not strange, really.

Originally posted by Jesus McBurger
My pastor once told me that thinking things is just as bad as doing them in the eyes of God, so I'm screwed if this is all true
The idea of sin in Christianity is that it's engraved into our being. Sin touches everything about us: relationships, emotions, the way we approach the world around us. When you see someone standing too close to an edge and you think "I could push him off," that's sin.

The idea, however, is that everyone is in the same boat. No one is without sin.