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who was more redpilled - Pong Krell or Bariss Offee?

by redpill i mean who swallowed the redpill offered by Morpheus in the Matrix, while all the other tcw jedi were blue-pilled and asleep.

who really understood THE TRUTH.


in canon only 2 jtcw jedi who took the redpill from Morpheus was Pong Krell and Bariss Offee


for me its a tough call.

imagine Pong Krell and Bariss Offee discussing their redpill with each other than with the Jedi Council.




note to mods, krell is misspelled in the poll - typo

*They* didn't see through Sidious's plot.

Originally posted by Q99
*They* didn't see through Sidious's plot.

which came closest?

If you're asking who was the more retarded, it's definitely Offee.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
If you're asking who was the more retarded, it's definitely Offee.

how so? everything she said was right

Originally posted by redpill
how so? everything she said was right

THE JEDI ARE LOSING THEIR WAY
THEY PARTICIPATE IN WAR AND DO MAD VIOLENCE
WHAT AM I GONNA DO ABOUT THAT TO PROTEST AGAINST THE VIOLENCE?
OH YEAH LETS BOMB THE TEMPLE AND KILL MY FRIENDS

yeah Barriss is like INTelligence 14 , WISdom 2 , CHArisma 11

Originally posted by JKBart
THE JEDI ARE LOSING THEIR WAY
THEY PARTICIPATE IN WAR AND DO MAD VIOLENCE
WHAT AM I GONNA DO ABOUT THAT TO PROTEST AGAINST THE VIOLENCE?
OH YEAH LETS BOMB THE TEMPLE AND KILL MY FRIENDS

yeah Barriss is like INTelligence 14 , WISdom 2 , CHArisma 11

the fact bariss saw these problems when other jedi including anakin could not

wisdom 20

she's redpilled.

besides yoda said jedi must use power for defense only never attack then you see yoda killing clones guarding the temple with obi wan in ROTS.

Either of them are smarter than Bane

I mean what kind of retard walks into a mansion when he knows mercenaries are in there/while weakened and gets his ass kicked?

you know jack shit about rpg

intelligence is connecting the facts, analysis and logical thinking
wisdom is having your brain in the proper place, life experience, the ability to make correct decisions and answer to the problems correctly
charisma is kinda your willpower but applied outside into interactions with others

so her being retarded, worthless piece of trash that decided that replying to "too much violence" problem by bombing and murdering people including her former friends is the lowest wisdom ever possible since 10/10 hypocrisy, 0/10 sense, 10/10 retardation

go read dungeons and dragons sourcebooks u casual

Originally posted by carthage
Either of them are smarter than Bane

I mean what kind of retard walks into a mansion when he knows mercenaries are in there/while weakened and gets his ass kicked?

Bane would be like
- Intelligence 7 |-2|
- Wisdom 4 |-3|
- Charisma 16 |+3|

What if he had a nexus?

Nexus bane is like
- Intelligence 14 |+2|
- Wisdom 11 |+0|
- Charisma 21 |+5|

Freshest approves of Polefags SPECIAL stats.

Originally posted by JKBart
you know jack shit about rpg

intelligence is connecting the facts, analysis and logical thinking
wisdom is having your brain in the proper place, life experience, the ability to make correct decisions and answer to the problems correctly
charisma is kinda your willpower but applied outside into interactions with others

so her being retarded, worthless piece of trash that decided that replying to "too much violence" problem by bombing and murdering people including her former friends is the lowest wisdom ever possible since 10/10 hypocrisy, 0/10 sense, 10/10 retardation

go read dungeons and dragons sourcebooks u casual

if you're going to lower her wisdom score then lower yoda's as well.
no better than yoda kiling clones alongside obi wan.

bariss made a decision based on a true understanding of the situation.

thats wisdom. thats redpilled

you still don't understand what WIS statistic is
an timing hero

Originally posted by JKBart
you still don't understand what WIS statistic is
an timing hero

if u apply dnd wisdom to star wars

wisdom is ability to use the force

which all jedi and sith have.

is sidious wise ?

nu still wrong
find SW Saga Edition D20 sourcebook

http://szlakiem-jedi.pl/darth_bane.pdf

here's a little help for u

Originally posted by redpill
which came closest?


Probably someone who *didn't* turn against the Jedi and go to the dark side.


That's not eating the red pill, that's doing a line of crushed blue

Originally posted by Q99
Probably someone who *didn't* turn against the Jedi and go to the dark side.


That's not eating the red pill, that's doing a line of crushed blue

jedi turned against them

Originally posted by redpill
jedi turned against them


Not really. And the point is they were still falling for the plot hook, line, and sinker.

kmc is getting better and better each day

Originally posted by Q99
Not really. And the point is they were still falling for the plot hook, line, and sinker.

i pong krell and bariss said both saw problems with the direction jedi were taking

Originally posted by |King Joker|
kmc is getting better and better each day cuz of me

its the police sir your son has been killed by a hit and run driver
the driver was an alcohol

Originally posted by redpill
i pong krell and bariss said both saw problems with the direction jedi were taking

It turned out, the direction the Jedi were taking wasn't the real threat at all- the Supreme Chancellor being a Sith was. Pushing the Jedi in that direction to cause internal clashes and defectors like Pong and Barriss was *part* of the plan.

Originally posted by Q99
It turned out, the direction the Jedi were taking wasn't the real threat at all- the Supreme Chancellor being a Sith was. Pushing the Jedi in that direction to cause internal clashes and defectors like Pong and Barriss was *part* of the plan. the direction of the jedi played into the sith's hand

which pong krell and bariss both saw as a problem

Originally posted by |King Joker|
kmc is getting better and better each day
/he says as the gun to his temple jams

Originally posted by carthage
Either of them are smarter than Bane

I mean what kind of retard walks into a mansion when he knows mercenaries are in there/while weakened and gets his ass kicked?

I dunno, ask Dooku, bet he has an answer.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3dso0M2sW1r5gvg1o1_500.gif

Originally posted by redpill
the direction of the jedi played into the sith's hand

which pong krell and bariss both saw as a problem


And chose to confront the problem by exacerbating it.

Krell.

Originally posted by Q99
And chose to confront the problem by exacerbating it.

desperate times call for desperate measures

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Krell.

why krell over bariss?

bariss said the war was corrupting the jedi. true.

Krell understood that a new power was going to rise in the Republic's place, and decided to get on the train of the guys that were going to win.

Barriss kinda just understood that the Jedi weren't protectors of the peace anymore and threw a hissy fit about it.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Krell understood that a new power was going to rise in the Republic's place, and decided to get on the train of the guys that were going to win.

Barriss kinda just understood that the Jedi weren't protectors of the peace anymore and threw a hissy fit about it.

good answer.



dark enlightenment.

can you imagine bariss and krell teaming up? that would be awesome. throw in quinlan vos as of dark disciple