Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

I know, but what if we take away bfr and no speed stealing does it make it a closer fight?

Femto seconds reactions time at the lowest Vs three guys that can barely dodge bullets.

Huh, i wonder who wins?

Then again, according o he three stooges, Flash doesn't fight at lighspeed.

Because Flash's sublight speed is sloooow.

So slow, he has time to take a nap in the middle of an explosion.

Just because they can just barely dodge bullets which is about 1000 feet per second pretty quick the more important is they are extreme durable and Wolverine has extreme healing Black Panther has vibranium armor which should work well against the attacks from Flash.

Originally posted by golem370
Just because they can just barely dodge bullets which is about 1000 feet per second pretty quick the more important is they are extreme durable and Wolverine has extreme healing Black Panther has vibranium armor which should work well against the attacks from Flash.

Right?

Let's see, Flash at his worse is a trillion times faster than a bullet. So good luck dodging him.

Flash punches have hurt the likes of Superman. So, Logan and Panthers toughness are useless.

Flash shoves his fist through Panther, Logan, and Danny's heart and head in less than a trillionth of second.

All of that are done after Flash circled the World 10x over, go home and bang his wife, have a conversation with Zoom about the meaning of Life. Then Write a book about the meaning of Life and makes copies and pass it off as gift to the big 7.

So you are saying Flash never been beaten by somebody of less power then Wolverine, Black Panther, & Iron Fist?

Flash.

Originally posted by SquallX
Femto seconds reactions time at the lowest Vs three guys that can barely dodge bullets.

Huh, i wonder who wins?

Then again, according o he three stooges, Flash doesn't fight at lighspeed. um.... All of these guys are casual bullet timers. There's no "barely" about it. Two of these guys have also tagged legit speedsters. I'm not saying that they win, but let's try our best not to lowball.

Originally posted by deathslash
um.... All of these guys are casual bullet timers. There's no "barely" about it. Two of these guys have also tagged legit speedsters. I'm not saying that they win, but let's try our best not to lowball.

Yep

Originally posted by deathslash
um.... All of these guys are casual bullet timers. There's no "barely" about it. Two of these guys have also tagged legit speedsters. I'm not saying that they win, but let's try our best not to lowball. I disagree. At their highest showings ever they BARELY DODGES BULLETS. Average showings, they aim dodge (can't dodge after the fire). And tagging speedsters hold little to no water due to the most obvious reason ( plot).

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. At their highest showings ever they BARELY DODGES BULLETS. Average showings, they aim dodge (can't dodge after the fire). And tagging speedsters hold little to no water due to the most obvious reason ( plot). barely dodging would imply that they have trouble doing it. There are dozens of times in which these characters have moved far faster than bullets. There are numerous times when people unload entire magazines at wolverine only to realize that their bullets are only hitting air. Danny regularly dodges automatic machine gun fire and more recently, has been smacking bullets back at his opponents. Panther has also dodged bullets numerous times and often disappears from view while doing it.

Lastly, you can't possibly write off every loss that a speedster has as pis. Just because you don't like that they can do it, that doesn't mean that they can't.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. At their highest showings ever they BARELY DODGES BULLETS. Average showings, they aim dodge (can't dodge after the fire). And tagging speedsters hold little to no water due to the most obvious reason ( plot).

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2669816-speedbarvw6.jpg

Hard to aim dodge when you're not looking at the peeps who is shooting.

Are you saying bullet dodging makes you able to hit a flash?

Oh the Panther fans.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you saying bullet dodging makes you able to hit a flash?

Oh the Panther fans. are you saying that you're so blind that you didn't even read my first post? Maybe you should educate yourself on what's being argued here and then get back to me.

Yes, I am arguing that every time a Flash has been tagged as PIS.

Unless the person tagging them has insane speed feats of their own. That's...how this works, lol.

Actually, I see that speed stealing is off....which suggests Wally is on the field?

He slaughters here. Not literally of course, as he's still Wally.

I have no doubt I am just sure they couldn't pull off some wins.

Well, out of all the characters, the Flash is the one guy who actually has this written in the forum rules:



So in the first millisecond of this fight....Flash is punching all three of them.

Wolverine will of course still be standing - but we saw what repeated punches to his head did to him (WWH).

Carver will come in and scream and ask for proof that Flash possesses WWH strength. But the thing is, he does not need to. All he needs to do is rattle Wolverine's brain in his skull.

In a comic, Flash would get destroyed. He's nothing more than a dumb coward with a glass jaw, after all.

Here on KMC, he blitzes everyone to death.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In a comic, Flash would get destroyed. He's nothing more than a dumb coward with a glass jaw, after all.

Here on KMC, he blitzes everyone to death.

On the claim Danny is "barely a bullet timer," in his last series he outpaced a bullet and plucked it out of the air.

On topic: Wolverine and BP have taken beatings much higher than a normal flash is going to give them.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
On the claim Danny is "barely a bullet timer," in his last series he outpaced a bullet and plucked it out of the air.

On topic: Wolverine and BP have taken beatings much higher than a normal flash is going to give them.

How bad were those beatings?

Although, I've read stories where Wolvy was actually decapitated, which I didn't think was possible....

Also, new sig at the bottom for me I think, soon...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1046055-world_war_hulk___x_men__002_019.jpg

Average Nu Flash is not replicating that, though.

Wally can, right? I'm assuming it's Wally, just because golem turned speedsteal off, which was Wally's trick.

Also, I am of the belief that Barry is constant across all pre-FP, PC, and New52....

Oh, yes... Wally...

http://seveninchesofyourtime.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Gorilla_Grodd_Kolins-3.jpg

That would've killed Wolverine for sure I'm putting that in the respect thread.

*Here, you can see Flash actually punching someone for once*

IMP probably cannot be spammed, like Classic Rand's IF? Just a theory.

Originally posted by deathslash
are you saying that you're so blind that you didn't even read my first post? Maybe you should educate yourself on what's being argued here and then get back to me.

Stop being so passive aggressive.

Come out and say Panther wins.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
IMP probably cannot be spammed, like Classic Rand's IF? Just a theory.

He SAID he could do it, but that one IMP would be enough.

Spammed IMPs are...kinda broken, surely? But I can see why the IF can't be spammed. IMPs though - I can't see why not. Just a theory, though.

Why IS Grodd so durable/strong, anyway?

Manjobber said that he's stronger than Superman... But yeah, it's unlikely Flash was lying to us, readers.

No idea about Grodd. Apparently the ability to talk somehow unlocks supergorilla strength and durability as side-effects

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
IMP probably cannot be spammed, like Classic Rand's IF? Just a theory. Wally says the complete opposite:

http://i.imgur.com/yzdUlwC.jpg

He says he could hit Zum , before the latter could blink, thousands of times with IMPs.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In a comic, Flash would get destroyed. He's nothing more than a dumb coward with a glass jaw, after all.

Here on KMC, he blitzes everyone to death.

Because it's not like Flash has fought against Zoom, Imperiex Probes, Anti Monitor, Prime, Darkseid.

Glass jaw my ass.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Stop being so passive aggressive.

Come out and say Panther wins. never said they win dipshit. As a matter of fact, I only addressed the thought that these guys are barely bullet timers. You're the one going around making assumptions and trying to jam you words down my throat.

Originally posted by deathslash
never said they win dipshit. As a matter of fact, I only addressed the thought that these guys are barely bullet timers. You're the one going around making assumptions and trying to jam you words down my throat.
Thou doth protest too much!!!!

Verily!!!!!

Flash ftw

Hmm... I'd say Flash wins 100/100 in a stomp which makes Mr. X happy that he faced Pietro instead of Barry.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How bad were those beatings?

Although, I've read stories where Wolvy was actually decapitated, which I didn't think was possible....

Also, new sig at the bottom for me I think, soon...

So it takes at least SIX punches from WWH to put Logan down? (Flash isn't gonna have a problem, then.)

Always wondered how IMP's could be spammed, since they're based on momentum.

Does he just stand there and throw 1000 punches faster then it takes to move another step? Or just keep looping around on multiple passes?

Originally posted by golem370
So you are saying Flash never been beaten by somebody of less power then Wolverine, Black Panther, & Iron Fist?

You know I could really just ask if you any of those people you listed have ever been beaten by anyone of less power then the Flash. The answer would be yes.

Excluding everything else, how do you expect these three to do anything? They are statues compared to the Flash. They are hampered by an inability to perceive their target. Or even just react before he has done 1,000 different things.

Originally posted by cdtm
Always wondered how IMP's could be spammed, since they're based on momentum.

Does he just stand there and throw 1000 punches faster then it takes to move another step? Or just keep looping around on multiple passes?

He's hitting you while he's moving at a certain speed, so as long as he doesn't stop moving he could technically keep doing it. So literally just running around you in a circle at a high enough speed and continually punching you..would be one way. He wouldn't actually have to zip around the planet a bunch of times like in the cartoon.

Originally posted by cdtm
Always wondered how IMP's could be spammed, since they're based on momentum.

Does he just stand there and throw 1000 punches faster then it takes to move another step? Or just keep looping around on multiple passes?

Well, in that scan with Zum, he was actually lapping the White Martian - who was already running at superspeed.

So I guess he...just throws another 1000 punches (so like his 'normal' superspeed punches, but now with infinite mass)?

Flash fact: those punches thrown at Grodd were actually IMPs, it's just that they are weak as f*ck haw-som

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Flash fact: those punches thrown at Grodd were actually IMPs, it's just that they are weak as f*ck haw-som

Flash Fact: Gorillas can tank infinity.

Grodd got hit 3,000 times in a second. But it wasn't at anything close to the speed of light.

Bat fact: Nightwing raped him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Bat fact: Nightwing raped him.

Reported. Bats don't have facts.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Flash Fact: Gorillas can tank infinity.

They should form an infinity club. They could include Superman and Captain Marvel who both lifted infinity. So..half of infinity? Which is still infinity.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Reported. Bats don't have facts.

They're all about facts.

Flash is all about bs and lamest villains in comics

How could someone who throws a boomerang at you be lame? Besides always, I mean.

Alright lets me try add to this thread the team has full knowledge abilities of Flash.

Flash hits hard enough to hurt top tier bricks, even without BFR his standard punches would turn Wolverine's brain into jello and KO him, and would kill Panther and IF

Originally posted by golem370
Alright lets me try add to this thread the team has full knowledge abilities of Flash.

They'd have it as standard, I thought?

And you. That's what the forum needs the most, RadZoa offed

Originally posted by golem370
Alright lets me try add to this thread the team has full knowledge abilities of Flash.

They last the same, but at least they know what's coming to them

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And you. That's what the forum needs the most, RadZoa offed Huh? I miss something? I think I come here once every other week or so, hardly enough to be noticeable.

HumbleZoa

...

No, that just doesn't work

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
HumbleZoa

...

No, that just doesn't work Sounds good, see you in 2-3 weeks

Originally posted by deathslash
um.... All of these guys are casual bullet timers. There's no "barely" about it. Two of these guys have also tagged legit speedsters. I'm not saying that they win, but let's try our best not to lowball.

Saying 'speedsters' is really just a useless catch-all phrase, which means nothing by itself in a discussion.

Speedsters are not made equal, and they job in general in comics.

Wolverine has struggled with a low supersonic Speed Demon.

And even when he did tag him with an elbow by 'predicting' where Speed Demon was going to attack next, it was PIS:

Seeing as Speed Demon was easily fast enough to blindside Wolverine and be too fast for Wolverine to get a good visual of, that means he should have casually seen Wolverine slowly extending his elbow at a molasses like pace and casually side-stepped it.

There is no fancy, zen-like way of outfighting someone who is dozens of times faster than you. You can't predict what they are going to do next because they can think immensely faster than you and by the time you make a prediction, they could have already attacked a multitude of different ways than what you were attempting to counter.

If you are immensely slower than someone, you can only win in one of two ways:

1. Hope you are tough enough to outlast them until they slow down to a level that you can keep up with(if they do slow down at all).

2. Have an esoteric set-up. Like auto-shields that are always on, and an AOE attack that is large enough/fast enough to overcome their speed.

Originally posted by RadZoa
Sounds good, see you in 2-3 weeks

Take care. And may Aquaman's seahorse be with you.