Byrne era Superman vs Les/Buscema Silver Surfer.

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lawest9
Watered down versions of both. Surfer after much of his powers were drained by reed richards sonic shark in the 60's. Against Byrne's depowered Superman. Fight takes place in new york city. Who wins?

abhilegend
Superman easily.

lawest9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman easily. No chance for SS at all?

JBL
Originally posted by lawest9
No chance for SS at all? you do know its abhil you are asking right? His superman cannot be beaten ever.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman easily.

abhilegend
Originally posted by lawest9
No chance for SS at all?
Nope

StiltmanFTW
Les Silver Surfer? Surfer's a chick?

Always thought he was just a eunuch, like Varys from GoT.

lawest9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Les Silver Surfer? Surfer's a chick?

Always thought he was just a eunuch, like Varys from GoT. Les was a typo as I meant LEE, as in Stan Lee. But who said SS was a "chick"?

Raisen
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman easily.
Jesus

lawest9
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing to say Carver?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by lawest9
Nothing to say Carver?

It stems from the BZ.

Carver and darthgoober were adamant that Surfer should be considered a Low/Mid Herald.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by lawest9
Les was a typo as I meant LEE, as in Stan Lee. But who said SS was a "chick"?

You need to relax more and visit us more often, lol.

I was joking stick out tongue

Les = Lesbian, so that'd totally make Surfer a chick. Imagine all those She-Hulk/Surfer fanart sex scenes.

lawest9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You need to relax more and visit us more often, lol.

I was joking stick out tongue

Les = Lesbian, so that'd totally make Surfer a chick. Imagine all those She-Hulk/Surfer fanart sex scenes. I got'cha now, lol.

lawest9
Originally posted by Raisen
Jesus LORD Jesus................

Surtur
Reading the title for a second I thought this was Steve Buscemi as the Silver Surfer.

carver9
Originally posted by lawest9
Nothing to say Carver?

Not really. It might not be easy due to Bryne's Supes being less powerful too, but depowered Surfer didn't really have a whole lot in the raw power department. There were a couple references to him being severely depowered during that period. He had some good high end feats too, but nothing that blew Bryne's Supes out of the water and he had some ridiculous lows that more than balance the high end stuff out. All his really big stuff like destroying planets, evolving planets, creating blackholes, etc., came from later days after he escaped from Earth so it's no huge stretch to say Supes wins this one.

lawest9
Originally posted by carver9
Not really. It might not be easy due to Bryne's Supes being less powerful too, but depowered Surfer didn't really have a whole lot in the raw power department. There were a couple references to him being severely depowered during that period. He had some good high end feats too, but nothing that blew Bryne's Supes out of the water and he had some ridiculous lows that more than balance the high end stuff out. All his really big stuff like destroying planets, evolving planets, creating blackholes, etc., came from later days after he escaped from Earth so it's no huge stretch to say Supes wins this one. Ok. Thank you for the insight. I remember a buddy of mine who was reading some of the Stan Lee/ John Buscema stories remarking how inconsistent they were being with SS power set. Even Spider-Man put him on the floor with a punch.

Delta1938
Originally posted by JBL
you do know its abhil you are asking right? His superman cannot be beaten ever.

laughing

One-Punch
Although he was at a fraction of his power, depowered Surfer still alluded to his power to shatter and smash planets a few times, and demonstrated he still had planetary level energy manipulation when he easily disrupted all power and communications on Earth.

According to Surfer, while trapped on Earth he had to hold back his power to avoid atomizing Earth.

http://s13.postimg.org/jw3jztxjb/planet.png

abhilegend
Originally posted by One-Punch
Although he was at a fraction of his power, depowered Surfer still alluded to his power to shatter and smash planets a few times, and demonstrated he still had planetary level energy manipulation when he easily disrupted all power and communications on Earth.

According to Surfer, while trapped on Earth he had to hold back his power to avoid atomizing Earth.

http://s13.postimg.org/jw3jztxjb/planet.png
If we are taking statements at face value, it would be a fun game.

Quex-ul stated that Superman was as strong as pocket dimension kryptonians (pre crisis that is).

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Supermanv2022-0405.jpg

Mind you, Superman actually knocked Pre-crisis Mon-El out. The same guy who was tossing planets at the time trapper.

One-Punch
It wasn't just a statement though.

A depowered Surfer fought Mephisto in space above Earth where Mephisto goads Surfer into throwing more power at him.

Surfer hurled energy blasts whose explosions were almost as large as Earth, and even lit up the Moon.

http://s2.postimg.org/d6peitsyt/Silver_Surfer_1970_016_18.jpg

^ If Surfer had done that on Earth, it would've devastated the planet.

abhilegend
That's some really nice exaggeration.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's some really nice exaggeration. Irony.

Surtur
The explosion actually looks pretty large to me. I could see that taking out a planet.

One-Punch
@abhi
Deny it all you want but it's on-panel.

The explosion is clearly seen on-panel, almost as large as Earth itself and large enough to light up the front half of the moon.

http://s10.postimg.org/47qbbtawp/Untitled.png

Plus Surfer had other decent showings too during that era, like holding his own against The Stranger, transmuting Molecule Man's wave of disintegration into energy and throwing it into space, pouring billions of terrawatts of energy for 30 mins etc.

quanchi112
Originally posted by One-Punch
Deny it all you want but it's on-panel.

The explosion is clearly seen on-panel, almost as large as Earth itself and large enough to light up the front half of the moon.

http://s10.postimg.org/47qbbtawp/Untitled.png

Plus Surfer had other decent showings too during that era, like holding his own against The Stranger, transmuting Molecule Man's wave of disintegration into energy and throwing it into space, pouring billions of terrawatts of energy for 30 mins etc. On panel evidence is evidence. Abhi's whimpers about it are just whimpers.

Surtur
I think we are ignoring one important thing: these guys are talking about throwing "cosmic thrusts" back and forth at each other. There is apparently a lot of sexual tension between these guys.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by One-Punch
@abhi
Deny it all you want but it's on-panel.

The explosion is clearly seen on-panel, almost as large as Earth itself and large enough to light up the front half of the moon.

http://s10.postimg.org/47qbbtawp/Untitled.png

Plus Surfer had other decent showings too during that era, like holding his own against The Stranger, transmuting Molecule Man's wave of disintegration into energy and throwing it into space, pouring billions of terrawatts of energy for 30 mins etc.

thumb up

Am glad I didn't fall for Carver's lies.

One-Punch
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
thumb up

Am glad I didn't fall for Carver's lies.
Well, Surfer during that era did this to Hulk with the "merest burst of his power cosmic." lol

http://s8.postimg.org/6o21xs9n5/Incredible_Hulk250p18.jpg http://s8.postimg.org/w5kghdrdd/Incredible_Hulk250p19.jpg http://s8.postimg.org/xn5wsxw41/Incredible_Hulk250p20.jpg

carver9
sad

One-Punch
Sorry Carvester, had to post that 'cause in my opinion it's one of Surfer's most impressive draining feats during that era lol.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by One-Punch
It wasn't just a statement though.

A depowered Surfer fought Mephisto in space above Earth where Mephisto goads Surfer into throwing more power at him.

Surfer hurled energy blasts whose explosions were almost as large as Earth, and even lit up the Moon.

http://s2.postimg.org/d6peitsyt/Silver_Surfer_1970_016_18.jpg

^ If Surfer had done that on Earth, it would've devastated the planet.
Planet sized explosions? That's it? Surfer 🏄 is slippin.

One-Punch
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Planet sized explosions? That's it? Surfer 🏄 is slippin.
Where'd you get that Surfer icon?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by One-Punch
Where'd you get that Surfer icon?
Only true Surfer phans can use it. The jig is up. Start reppin some other schmuck. Surfer is mine!

One-Punch
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Only true Surfer phans can use it. The jig is up. Start reppin some other schmuck. Surfer is mine!
Not so fast.

I am the one and true 🏄 fan on this forum, though here I stand forsaken on this hostile forum full of Kal-Qaeda. I who have crested and bested the waves of infinite stupidity--exiled alone on this lonely forum as the sole Surfer fan. But time is long and fate is fickle. My destiny still lies before me--and where it beckons there shall soar the one and true Silver Surfer fan, me.

http://s12.postimg.org/qakr1sc8d/Untitled_1.png

...At least until darthgoober comes back lol. There's like no Surfer fans here.

celeyhyga17
Riiight.

abhilegend
Originally posted by One-Punch
@abhi
Deny it all you want but it's on-panel.

The explosion is clearly seen on-panel, almost as large as Earth itself and large enough to light up the front half of the moon.

http://s10.postimg.org/47qbbtawp/Untitled.png


That's about as clear as mud. But go ahead and make the unsubstantiated claim that it could destroy the earth.

Surfer was depowered only in SS v1. Anything after that? Full power Surfer.

abhilegend
BTW if you are looking at space cheese, here is Superman moving Earth+moon and a huge ship through hyperspace from a different solar system.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Some info on the feat in the Superman:earth stealers.

First the earth and moon were not hold by any gravity-nullifying beam, they were just grabbed by an energy net which was bigger than entire earth-moon system

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0005.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0006.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0007.jpg

According to superman it must've been made by all the resources of a whole star system

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0010.jpg

Check out its size

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0012.jpg

This happened the first time superman went through hyper-space, he was almost drained of all his strength

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0015.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0017.jpg

Also when superman went to moving the ship, its engines were almost drained

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0041.jpg

Then superman went through hyperspace and restored both earth and moon to its places, the ship ONLY directed them

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_sup_tes__0043.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_sup_tes__0044.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_sup_tes__0045.jpg

Its an insane feat any way you cut it.

carver9
Abhi...

I don't understand you. You're the most picking and choosing person I know. On one end you debate using statements. An example of this is when both Supes were fighting and you claimed they destroyed a planet but yet, we didn't see a planet blow up. When it concern other characters, you then go against statements. At least be consistent in what you do. I can bring up other showings you used for Superman that were nothing but statements involved but you used it in your debates.

lawest9
🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈 Super Cammmmmmmmmm..........

quanchi112
Originally posted by carver9
Abhi...

I don't understand you. You're the most picking and choosing person I know. On one end you debate using statements. An example of this is when both Supes were fighting and you claimed they destroyed a planet but yet, we didn't see a planet blow up. When it concern other characters, you then go against statements. At least be consistent in what you do. I can bring up other showings you used for Superman that were nothing but statements involved but you used it in your debates. Nicely done.

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