Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern

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abhilegend
1. Hal
2. Kyle

Energy projection fight. Who has more powerful energy attacks? Preboot characters.

riv6672
Surfer against both, easily.

abhilegend
Why?

riv6672
He's Surfer. He could do it while weakened.

abhilegend
Could do what?

riv6672
^^^
Originally posted by abhilegend
1. Hal
2. Kyle

Energy projection fight. Who has more powerful energy attacks? Preboot characters.

Dampyre
Surfer. The Lanterns are a step down the food chain.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Dampyre
Surfer. The Lanterns are a step down the food chain.
Are they? What makes you say so?

And any particular feat you'd like to mention for this thread in particular?

Philosophía
Hal has by far the better energy projection compared to Surfer.

Kyle is evener.

Originally posted by Dampyre
Surfer. The Lanterns are a step down the food chain. No, they're not.

You're welcome to try and prove otherwise.

CosmicComet
Krona Buster.

GG.

Insane Titan
Haha so much butthurt from Abhi over character like Surfer.

StiltmanFTW
Surfer is for Abhi what Spider-Man is for me laughing out loud

DarkSaint85
Your fav?

SquallX
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Haha so much butthurt from Abhi over character like Surfer.

How is he butthurt?

Like someone said before, Hal has the Krona buster. Am not saying Hal is better than Surfer, since i don't read much of the SS, but Hal's will was able to go and break a rule implanted by the Guardians and killed a guy that was in possession of all the Spectrum at the time.

carver9
Surfer by far.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Surfer by far. Originally posted by abhilegend
Why?

riv6672
Originally posted by carver9
Surfer by far.
Easily.

Raisen
is abhi the most biased person on here?

Insane Titan
Originally posted by SquallX
How is he butthurt?

Like someone said before, Hal has the Krona buster. Am not saying Hal is better than Surfer, since i don't read much of the SS, but Hal's will was able to go and break a rule implanted by the Guardians and killed a guy that was in possession of all the Spectrum at the time. is this a serious question

Inhuman
Lol, It's always easy to spot these not so clever hidden agenda threads by abhi, philo, and the rest of the usuals.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Inhuman
Lol, It's always easy to spot these not so clever hidden agenda threads by abhi, philo, and the rest of the usuals.
That's the point isn't it?

I don't see anything wrong with this thread.

Surtur
I always pegged GL's as herald-lites. Or if you want to put it another way, Surfer is like a GL who took cosmic steroids.

Silver Surfer vs GL was one of the few Marvel vs DC fight outcomes I agreed with.

Inhuman
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's the point isn't it?

I don't see anything wrong with this thread.

Meh, I suppose.
Usually if a thread starter makes a thread, he doesn't usually heavily fight for one side if people are choosing the other. Unless your Golgo of coarse.
If there is a point or agenda then I suppose you're right.
Anyhow, what do i know.

SquallX
Originally posted by Insane Titan
is this a serious question

What's wrong with my question? Hal did beat a guy with ll the Spectrum's under his command did he not? He did Kill Krona with an energy blast did he not?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Inhuman
Meh, I suppose.
Usually if a thread starter makes a thread, he doesn't usually heavily fight for one side if people are choosing the other. Unless your Golgo of coarse.
If there is a point or agenda then I suppose you're right.
Anyhow, what do i know.
laughing out loud

abhilegend
Originally posted by Surtur
I always pegged GL's as herald-lites. Or if you want to put it another way, Surfer is like a GL who took cosmic steroids.

Silver Surfer vs GL was one of the few Marvel vs DC fight outcomes I agreed with.
Again why? Originally posted by Inhuman
Meh, I suppose.
Usually if a thread starter makes a thread, he doesn't usually heavily fight for one side if people are choosing the other. Unless your Golgo of coarse.
If there is a point or agenda then I suppose you're right.
Anyhow, what do i know.
I'm asking a question. But I like how it's considered an offense to question marvel characters.

***** some more about BvS while you are here though. That always is not without any agenda.

abhilegend
So let me start actually posting stuff here.
Originally posted by Galan007
vs. Krona:
http://i.imgur.com/J0Mq5Z9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/X9Gook3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WFDT3BY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Nm2IQMN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wH3WSk8.jpg

vs. Cyborg Superman:
http://i.imgur.com/2HMBxxJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b9N6so6.jpg

vs. Superboy Prime:
http://i.imgur.com/wLzvHnd.jpg

vs. amped Nero:
http://i.imgur.com/cBWmylI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Z5BNEtD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Pg4EwxK.jpg Originally posted by abhilegend
There is another instance where Hal blasted straight through Henshaw.

http://i.imgur.com/4JrnaAN.jpg

Not to mention blasting a hole in Amazo.


http://i.imgur.com/WirSG4t.jpg



Any Surfer fan who can back their claims up?

h1a8
Surfer destroying a planet in annihilation against Ravenous was impressive as hell though.

quanchi112
Surfer wins.

SquallX
Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer destroying a planet in annihilation against Ravenous was impressive as hell though.

I don't think anyone's denying Surfers energy prowess, but the fact that people here are claiming is cut and dry in SS favor.

Didn't Kyle hold back a planetary blast or something in OWAW?

Zack M
Originally posted by abhilegend
So let me start actually posting stuff here.


Any Surfer fan who can back their claims up?

thumb up

"Id"
Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer destroying a planet in annihilation against Ravenous was impressive as hell though.
Kyle destroyed planet Oa, in his fight against Parallax by himself.

Kyle compressing a black hole that was nearly the size of the Earth's Sun, is more impressive as hell.

abhilegend
Originally posted by "Id"
Kyle destroyed planet Oa, in his fight against Parallax by himself.

Kyle compressing a black hole that was nearly the size of the Earth's Sun, is more impressive as hell.
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He also destroyed Mogo.

http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/23364346_GreenLantern-Annual7-33.jpg http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/23364347_GreenLantern-Annual7-34.jpg http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/23364348_GreenLantern-Annual7-35.jpg

Raisen
Surfer easily

abhilegend
baka

One-Punch
Destroying a planet with his energy is something Surfer can do in his sleep, literally.

Surfer while sleeping on Earth has a nightmare and releases cosmic energy. According to Reed it threatens the entire planet.
http://postimg.org/image/z3jgeqzi5/

Releases enough energy to destroy a planet just to prove a point to Ravenous.
http://s10.postimg.org/qngddm9zd/Annihilation_Silver_Surfer4_017.jpg
http://s10.postimg.org/5cit9crux/Annihilation_Silver_Surfer4_018.jpg

Blows up the planet that Korvac created around him to crush him.
http://s10.postimg.org/3n9q1ac5l/Avengers_Annual_16_20.jpg
http://s10.postimg.org/4ycvw0idl/Avengers_Annual_16_21.jpg

His energy blasts against the Great One were large enough to spread across dozens of planets, accidentally destroying one of them, and killing the the Great One. The Great One was said to rival Galactus and went around the universe transmuting countless stars and planets into brain waves to insert into his psychic dimension. He essentially created his own pocket universe from planets and stars he transmuted.
http://postimg.org/image/3ri1fqw3b/
http://postimg.org/image/jr0ozas53/

A depowered Surfer being goaded by Mephisto to throw more power, till the explosions were as large as Earth and lit up the moon.
http://postimg.org/image/67jutle5z/

When pissed off enough destroys a planet and moon as a side-effect of his battle and knocks out Morg.
http://postimg.org/image/g85c5d5x9/
http://postimg.org/image/xwx2wzhod/

Full-power Surfer lets out an energy blast that destroys a portion of the Enslaver ship--which as a whole easily dwarfed a dozens of planets.
http://postimg.org/image/gc3qzd0sd/
http://postimg.org/image/hsf9hi3p9/

Surfer gives a Doombot his cosmic energy, the Doombot immediately uses said energies to casually destroy a planet to Surfer's surprise, lol
http://postimg.org/image/ux4nb3y0n/
http://postimg.org/image/cvlidb3zr/

Surfer's energy discharges create black holes as a side-effect. We're talking about the same type of energy a collapsed star releasesl.
http://postimg.org/image/o8uka5487/
http://postimg.org/image/3m5uotktj/

Surfer pours out so much energy that it evolves the entire population of a planet BILLIONS of years forward and then he accidentally incinerates the entire planet killing everything.
http://i.imgur.com/jeoKWPx.jpg

A depowered Surfer summons energy from the "infinite reaches of space" and gathers so much energy it dwarfed the planet Earth, readying it to throw at an amped Dutchman.
http://s10.postimg.org/ujzo9gz61/FM_1980_009_17.jpg

Surfer shoots an energy blast to save Kismet from Khatylis, the combination of their three energies accidentally creates an "infinite abyssmal" hole in reality that will cause the entire universe to consume itself.
http://postimg.org/image/x7p80wyhz/
http://postimg.org/image/ahq37xfaf/
http://postimg.org/image/dnaoy4xwn/

Surfer's able to power the Impericon which is so large it had moons on it's suites, and was previously powered by the heart of an abstract entity called the Never Queen--Eternity's GF and the embodiment of possibility.
http://postimg.org/image/g59lnzrev/
http://postimg.org/image/esrwm3tzb/
http://postimg.org/image/8j18cujyf/
http://postimg.org/image/yonw1nb0n/
http://postimg.org/image/6lzwuj3wn/
http://postimg.org/image/8hmp5osqv/

This is the Never Queen:
http://s23.postimg.org/vzobbzpgr/Silver_Surfer_2014_003_002.jpg

Defeats Rune with the IG by blowing up his IG hand with an energy blast. Rune with just the time gem alone froze the 616 time stream.
http://postimg.org/image/asb35n46v/
http://postimg.org/image/on9do3ylz/
http://postimg.org/image/8rkjkt81j/

Defeats Mrruungo with a blast who still had his own might plus the energy he stole from Hulk and Namor
http://postimg.org/image/5lrx9808p/
http://postimg.org/image/f51m2onqx/

Overloads Krosakis with his energy who was being amped with Gladiator's power, the Uni-Power, and countless other aliens he captured.
http://imgur.com/a/I962f#7

Surfer vs. an Elder God Demon, who once powered an ancient advanced civilization and whose power was so potent both Galactus and Thanos wanted it.
http://postimg.org/image/5o4nq27hx/
http://postimg.org/image/wonibr245/
http://postimg.org/image/vwkucjxx1/
http://postimg.org/image/7u40hoh9x/

Knocks down the Stranger with a blast, proceeds to use his energy to burn through the Stranger's shields and burn the Stranger's hand.
http://postimg.org/image/9guwfx4mf/
http://postimg.org/image/etjqu1siv/
http://postimg.org/image/jth71zy5j/

Blasts the Avengers, according to Thor said blast nearly slayed them all.
http://postimg.org/image/rfmkp8u0t/
http://postimg.org/image/z73ansy65/

Uses a chain energy attack and stuns the Avengers for a minute.
http://postimg.org/image/nba9eyi9x/
http://postimg.org/image/gwb8iabk5/

Takes out god Cable with a blast when serious.
http://imgur.com/a/GacDh#7

In a drained near-death state, Srufer matches the energy output of Millenneus who just prior beat down Thor and according to the book took Odin and his army to take down. Millennius even says "Odin himself barely survived against me!"
http://postimg.org/image/8r0oalrnl/
http://postimg.org/image/gl19vzzgh/

I've only gone through about half of Surfer's stuff so far. But I know just about every single one of these will be lowballed lol.

Raisen
Yeah. All of that too. Gls are out of their league

Surtur
Yep it's basically a case of "anything you can do I can do better" when it comes to Surfer and GL's.

Also to add one thing about his fight against God Cable. Remember they were destroying and instantly reforming anything they destroyed during that fight as well. Cable was levitating an entire freakin island with his mind while fighting too. That was a really awesome fight.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Raisen
Yeah. All of that too. Gls are out of their league Surfer is just on another level.
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Raisen
Yep. So no point to this thread. Every rational person agrees that surfer wins

Moderators, you can close this shiit pile now

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by One-Punch

I've only gone through about half of Surfer's stuff so far. But I know just about every single one of these will be lowballed lol.

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This was the most impressive one.

Blasts the Avengers, according to Thor said blast nearly slayed them all.
http://postimg.org/image/rfmkp8u0t/
http://postimg.org/image/z73ansy65/

Not because he blasted the Avengers, but because he almost killed Thor. That's multiversal level.

abhilegend
Now, we are talking.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Destroying a planet with his energy is something Surfer can do in his sleep, literally.

Surfer while sleeping on Earth has a nightmare and releases cosmic energy. According to Reed it threatens the entire planet.
http://postimg.org/image/z3jgeqzi5/

Yeah from lifting a house to threatening a planet.

Pretty much a hyperbole.



Just that? Kyle destroyed two planets pretty casually as well.


Not just any random planets. One is a battery for the Oan energy and the second is ****ing Mogo.

http://i.imgur.com/q0sQLW2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pCfhfA6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BGqOqDz.jpg


http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23364346/GreenLantern-Annual7-33.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23364347/GreenLantern-Annual7-34.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23364348/GreenLantern-Annual7-35.jpg.html




baka

They were in astral plane. Pretty disingenuous to claim it as an energy attack.

Here a random GL creates an explosion so powerful it destroys a being who was the entirety of a dimension.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/TalesofGLCorpsAnnual01-38.jpg



That is nothing but energy discharge depiction in a comic.

But hey, John Stewart firing energy blasts so powerful it causes nova level light with Sinestro's power.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/GL-198-06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/GL-198-07.jpg



Combined with Morg's power.

Hal overloads Polaris who was amped with so much power he could destroy the entire universe.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/2cc639ce.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/eafbbbc7.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/93cc96f2.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/8aeee62c.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/595613b9.jpg




Totally unquantifiable. But hey the part was clearly bigger than earth.

Clearly.



baka

The doomboat destroyed the planet by his machines. Not by his power.



Meh. A random Green Lantern actually throws enough power in a black hole to seal it. The black hole was threatening an entire space sector.


http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/gl151_23_glc.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/gl151_24_glc.jpg

You are really giving random green lanterns run for their money.



How is that an energy projection feat?

erm



Such a great energy projection feat.



no expression

Does context eans anything to you?

How is that an energy projection feat when the hole in reality was due to the matrix exploding.




Not an energy projection feat. Kyle creates Heaven's ladder.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/136345/3257789-heavens+ladder.jpg



Meh, heaven's ladder was only supportable by Quantum Mechanics who were more powerful than 5-D imps.



The gems were not acting on Rune's will. Adam Warlock with just soul gem kicked his ass until Soul Gem betrayed him.

Its literally a non feat.



Nope. Mu was depwoered as soon as his ship was destroyed.



See Dr. Polaris.

abhilegend
See Krona.

Only with feats.



Hal knocks off Black Lantern Spectre's jaw with one hit.

http://s635.photobucket.com/user/Desaad86/media/Hal%20Jordan%203/GreenLantern50013-14.jpg.html



Pure hyperbole.



He can create sparks to blind everyone? Even Tigra?

*Gasp*



Nothing compared to taking out Shaggy Man with one hit.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/glvsgeneral20.jpg

Cable was burned out anyways.



A rookie Hal matches power with ZH Parallax himself.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25416258_green_lantern_v3_106.pdf-010.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25416260_green_lantern_v3_106.pdf-011.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25416262_green_lantern_v3_106.pdf-012.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25416263_green_lantern_v3_106.pdf-013.jpg

Not to mention, momentarily gains upperhand against him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25416254/green_lantern_v3_106.pdf-001.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25416256/green_lantern_v3_106.pdf-002.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/25416257/green_lantern_v3_106.pdf-003.jpg.html

But I liked how Millenius saying he was so powerful is being used as a feat.



laughing out loud @ Preemptively calling context out as lowballing.

But go ahead and post some more out of context scans.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
thumb up

This was the most impressive one.

Blasts the Avengers, according to Thor said blast nearly slayed them all.
http://postimg.org/image/rfmkp8u0t/
http://postimg.org/image/z73ansy65/

Not because he blasted the Avengers, but because he almost killed Thor. That's multiversal level.
baka

Raisen
Ok. So everyone but one person agrees that surfer spite stomps

/thread

abhilegend
Originally posted by Raisen
Ok. So everyone but one person agrees that surfer spite stomps

/thread
barker

celeyhyga17
Kyle "helped" rebuild the heaven's ladder along with the quantum mechanics. Still an amazing feat, but just didn't want that lost in translation.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Raisen
Ok. So everyone but one person agrees that surfer spite stomps

/thread thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Kyle "helped" rebuild the heaven's ladder along with the quantum mechanics. Still an amazing feat, but just didn't want that lost in translation.
He was the one who was stabilizing the planets.

It's on panel dude.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was the one who was stabilizing the planets.

It's on panel dude.
As the big baddie was throwing a tantrum, he was starting to wreck parts of the heaven's ladder. Superman then asks Kyle to "help" the Quantum Mechanics to "rebuild" the ladder. Following close up panels concerning this fact shows the QM along with Kyle's power are shown working in unison to rebuild the damaged portions of the ladder. The QM are depicted as those small blue and white bubbles. Heck your own scan has shows what I'm talking about. So yeah. Kyle helped rebuild the ladder along with the QM.

And no one is denying that this was a great feat. I just wanted to shed more light on it since you made no mention of the QM rebuilding the ladder and passed the whole thing off as a purely Kyle feat.

quanchi112
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
As the big baddie was throwing a tantrum, he was straying to wreck parts of the heaven's ladder. Superman then asks Kyle to "help" the Quantum Mechanics to "rebuild" the ladder. Following close up panels concerning this fact shows the QM along with Kyle's power are shown working in unison to rebuild the damage portions of the ladder. The QM are depicted as those small blue and white bubbles. Heck your own scan has shows what I'm talking about. So yeah. Kyle helped rebuild the ladder along with the QM.

And no one is denying that this was a great feat. I just wanted to shed more light on it since you made no mention of the QM rebuilding the ladder and passed the whole thing off as a purely Kyle feat. Context ftw. Abhi doesn't grasp his own scans. It's been well documented.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
As the big baddie was throwing a tantrum, he was starting to wreck parts of the heaven's ladder. Superman then asks Kyle to "help" the Quantum Mechanics to "rebuild" the ladder. Following close up panels concerning this fact shows the QM along with Kyle's power are shown working in unison to rebuild the damage portions of the ladder. The QM are depicted as those small blue and white bubbles. Heck your own scan has shows what I'm talking about. So yeah. Kyle helped rebuild the ladder along with the QM.

And no one is denying that this was a great feat. I just wanted to shed more light on it since you made no mention of the QM rebuilding the ladder and passed the whole thing off as a purely Kyle feat.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/136345/3257789-heavens+ladder.jpg

We literally see the green constructs holding every planet in place.

It can't get clearer than that. What did the mechanics do?

quanchi112
He already explained it by the scans. You wanting to ignore the rest is typical wank.

celeyhyga17
Dude.. Do you really need me to post Superman telling Kyle and Atom to help the QM rebuild the ladder followed by a close up scan of all three parties working together in a up close panel doing as Superman commanded?

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Dude.. Do you really need me to post Superman telling Kyle and Atom to help the QM rebuild the ladder followed by a close up scan of all three parties working together in a up close panel doing as Superman commanded?
They could be told anything. In the scan itself, Kyle is holding all the planets together.

What are the mechanics doing if you are so certain that they are holding the planets together?

quanchi112
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Dude.. Do you really need me to post Superman telling Kyle and Atom to help the QM rebuild the ladder followed by a close up scan of all three parties working together in a up close panel doing as Superman commanded? Just expose him. He is a masochist and enjoys the abuse apparently.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
They could be told anything. In the scan itself, Kyle is holding all the planets together.

What are the mechanics doing if you are so certain that they are holding the planets together?
Abhi. You claimed Kyle CREATED heaven's ladder for christ's sakes.

How do you want the artist to depict characters who are abstract in nature rebuilding an immense celestial construct?

Lol..

The bubbles were the QM.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Abhi. You claimed Kyle CREATED heaven's ladder for christ's sakes.

How do you want the artist to depict characters who are abstract in nature rebuilding an immense celestial construct?

Lol..

The bubbles were the QM.
And he did.

The mechanics could have helped making him know the actual mechanics of how to build the ladder for all we know.

His constructs are at every planet holding them together. It is really that simple.

No "but even though they did nothing on panel but float around, they must have done something." shit necessary.

erm

abhilegend
BTW, still waiting for a feat where Surfer blasts through a Herald.

Much less the likes of SBP or Amazo or Cyborg Superman with 10 GL rings.

TheLordofMurder
On average, Surfer just appears to have superior energy projection to Hal/Kyle...

"Id"
Originally posted by Raisen
Ok. So everyone but one person agrees that surfer spite stomps

/thread

No

You need to be heavily biased to think that.

Energy Projection are Kyle and Hals bread and butter, unless you want to turn the blind eye, they match if not exceed the Surfer in this category.

abhilegend
Another showing which is the best for any Herald level being IMO. Rond Vidar actually stops Entropy.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19375300/LegionofSuperheroesv350-25.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19375301/LegionofSuperheroesv350-26.jpg.html

abhilegend
This one is just doozy. Rond Vidar shields himself from entire LOSV including ****ing Mordru, SBP, Validus and the likes.
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/05.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/06.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/07.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/08.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/09-10.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/11.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/13.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/14.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/16.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/17.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/18.jpg
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Desaad86/Hal%20Jordan%203/19.jpg

****ing insane.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
And he did.

The mechanics could have helped making him know the actual mechanics of how to build the ladder for all we know.

His constructs are at every planet holding them together. It is really that simple.

No "but even though they did nothing on panel but float around, they must have done something." shit necessary.

erm
What kind of idiot would follow this line of reasoning? The quantum mechanics built the damn thing in the first place! Why now would they leave their own construct to be rebuilt by infinitely less powerful individuals?

Superman gives orders to Ray and Kyle to help the qm rebuild.
http://oi64.tinypic.com/zj9uld.jpg

Close up of the group working in unison together.
http://oi64.tinypic.com/2cdfhup.jpg

And then of course a wide view of the feat.
http://oi65.tinypic.com/2i70bo.jpg

Raisen
The lantern supporters must also be backing Jeb bush.

quanchi112
That scan destroys abhi's lies. What's worse he continued to lie even when cele brought it up. No greater dishonor than for a poster to lie about the comics themselves.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by quanchi112
That scan destroys abhi's lies. What's worse he continued to lie even when cele brought it up. No greater dishonor than for a poster to lie about the comics themselves.
Still an impressive feat.

Just don't understand why lie about it.

quanchi112
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Still an impressive feat.

Just don't understand why lie about it. To exaggerate all DC characters feats and downplay all of marvels. It's plain as day. What's hilarious he will go on about how these feats don't mean much save when one of his characters get one he will forget that and just focus on the latest crazy feat.

Surtur
Originally posted by "Id"
No

You need to be heavily biased to think that.

Energy Projection are Kyle and Hals bread and butter, unless you want to turn the blind eye, they match if not exceed the Surfer in this category.

Well Surfer just stole their bread and butter and skull f*cked it.

"Id"
Originally posted by Surtur
Well Surfer just stole their bread and butter and skull f*cked it.

Pathetic.

quanchi112
Originally posted by "Id"
Pathetic. laughing out loud

Your tears taste great.

Raisen
ok, so everyone except two biased posters agree that surfer wins. let's end this charade

burrrrrr
Originally posted by Raisen
ok, so everyone except two biased posters agree that surfer wins. let's end this charade

thumb up

Sensui
Originally posted by "Id"
No

You need to be heavily biased to think that.

Energy Projection are Kyle and Hals bread and butter, unless you want to turn the blind eye, they match if not exceed the Surfer in this category.

thumb up

I also find it odd (not really but I'm trying to be kind) Raisen is ignoring posters on the first page that went for GL's. By my count it's pretty even in posters.

For GL's
Phil
Cosmic Comet
Abhi
ID
Myself
Squall X
Zack M
H1A8

For Surfer
One Punch
Celey
Dampyre
Surtur
Raisen
burrrrr
Inhuman
Lord of Murder
Riv

Darksaint and Stiltman didn't go one way or another.

Just one more for Surfer. Pretty damn even considering all the BIASES on BOTH sides.

Yet we've got Raisen TROLLING in the thread repeatedly saying only Abhi is going for GL's.

And I refuse to count Quanchi or Carver as creditable posters on ANYTHING.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What kind of idiot would follow this line of reasoning? The quantum mechanics built the damn thing in the first place! Why now would they leave their own construct to be rebuilt by infinitely less powerful individuals?


Lolwut? Just because they made it earlier doesn't mean they helped again when it's clear that they didn't do anything to support the ladder.

So you see Kyle saying "I can do this" and then actually creating it.

While the blobs just float there. Good argument.

laughing out loud

quanchi112
He pointed out the context you ignore because Kyle uses the word I but forget everything the comic described prior to. Terrible. This is why no one takes your word for anything. Exaggeration is fun indeed.

#irony

Juntai
Lanterns.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Juntai
Lanterns. Not at all. Wishful thinking.

Nice quick edit. I guess you took back your statements.

carver9
Surfer wins

abhilegend
Hal blasts the face off of Ganthetllax.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Oq8MULEUCDk/VQfARrJ37SI/AAAAAAAIsMM/Pqz6A_k33ac/s1600/p6_10%2Bcopy.jpg

Then straight up blasts through him.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w6EIUbmpZ18/VQfASbSooYI/AAAAAAAIsMc/sBh1LMoj8U8/s1600/p6_11%2Bcopy.jpg

Kyle and Anarky overload Aberration who was rewriting the laws of entire universe.

http://imgur.com/a/aJoXq

Oblivion who was just a construct of Kyle's imagination creates a Quasar which threatens to collapse entire universe.

http://i.imgur.com/aUHxDJe.jpg

Slightly better than creating just a black hole I guess.

quanchi112
laughing out loud

abhilegend
And of course triggering a supernova and holding it in his shields.

http://imgur.com/a/lLEBi

Or a quantum singularity.

http://imgur.com/a/0C22d

SquallX
Originally posted by abhilegend
And of course triggering a supernova and holding it in his shields.

http://imgur.com/a/lLEBi

Or a quantum singularity.

http://imgur.com/a/0C22d

Honestly man i don't know why you're still trying posting scans when there not gonna even look at them. The best they'll do is put a smiling meme and claims Surfer wins.

Juntai
Surfer wishes he could pull off some of those feats.

Zack M
Originally posted by Juntai
Lanterns.

Zack M
Originally posted by abhilegend
And of course triggering a supernova and holding it in his shields.

http://imgur.com/a/lLEBi

Or a quantum singularity.

http://imgur.com/a/0C22d

thumb up

Hey, where are those scans of Kyle stopping a universal destroying feat? You posted them last year, I think.

abhilegend
This one is again a doozy. Kyle and Anarky reverse the reality manipulation of entire universe done by Aberration and then overload him with sheer raw power.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418458_anarky3-12-13.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418460_anarky3-14.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418461_anarky3-15.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418462_anarky3-16.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418463_anarky3-17.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418464_anarky3-18.jpg

BTW, the second ring Anarky is using is just a duplicate ring Kyle gave to Jade from his own ring. Its his own power.Originally posted by Zack M
thumb up

Hey, where are those scans of Kyle stopping a universal destroying feat? You posted them last year, I think.
Did I?

Delta1938
Since One-Punch posted his Surfer scans, I've seen absolutely nothing for the Surfer side worth a **** except Celey arguing over ONE feat. Everything else has just been everybody giving each other high-fives and Handy Js in their mutual agreement. Raisen has been particularly bad.

Supermex
Originally posted by Inhuman
Lol, It's always easy to spot these not so clever hidden agenda threads by abhi, philo, and the rest of the usuals.




Agreed

abhilegend
Oblivion also creates a black hole casually.

http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418466_01-green_lantern__circle_of_fire_27.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418467_01-green_lantern__circle_of_fire_28.jpg

And something bigger, like a Quasar.

http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418469_08-2_green_lantern_-_circle_of_fire_02_27.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418470_08-2_green_lantern_-_circle_of_fire_02_28.jpg

The punchline? He is just a construct who is using Kyle's power to do it.

http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418468_08-2_green_lantern_-_circle_of_fire_02_21.jpg

Yeah, Kyle can create constructs who can create black holes and quasars.

Why is surfer more powerful again, eh?

carver9
Originally posted by Inhuman
Lol, It's always easy to spot these not so clever hidden agenda threads by abhi, philo, and the rest of the usuals.

Don't think he's/they ever made a normal thread without an agenda. It's in his/their blood to make bait threads.

abhilegend
On another side we have Kyle beating Amazo when he had the power of every superhero on earth.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112869_dcu2000secretfiles1p336gb.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112870_dcu2000secretfiles1p368nd.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112871_dcu2000secretfiles1p370nr.jpg

Casually creating a moon sized construct that stops entire CSA for 48 hours.

http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=kyle1.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=kyle2.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=kyle3.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=kyle4.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Don't think he's/they ever made a normal thread without an agenda. It's in his/their blood to make bait threads.
Quit bitching

abhilegend
Oh and Kyle creates an entire world from scratch.

http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418473_Jp7588f.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418474_FLlARQP.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418475_7khbhkO.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418476_cHDfVMO.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25418477_9sRCJVo.jpg

ghostman
jesus, i had no idea how uber preboot kyle was... i mean i knew he was insane but christ that shit abhi posted eek!

Zack M
Yeah, Abhi is killing it. Hal and Kyle were phuckin ridiculous back in the day. Nice work.

abhilegend
Just to point Vince taking things out of context.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Destroying a planet with his energy is something Surfer can do in his sleep, literally.

Surfer while sleeping on Earth has a nightmare and releases cosmic energy. According to Reed it threatens the entire planet.
http://postimg.org/image/z3jgeqzi5/

I looked again, on the previous page the power is stated to make a continent tremble.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418493_SilverS_EN_13.jpg



This is plain taken out of context. In reality surfer was just in mind there.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418491_Home_coming16.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418492_Home_coming17.jpg



First of, it was Grey Hulk and Namor and it was flat out stated that Mu derives his power from the power plants.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25418494_SilverS_EN_57.jpg

The power plant gone? He was left with just his power and that's just unquantifiable.





You know he was unable to even affect the demon, right?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Zack M
Yeah, Abhi is killing it. Hal and Kyle were phuckin ridiculous back in the day. Nice work. He was exposed for exaggeration, nver.

abhilegend
Just for a random tidbit, Kyle blasts a hole through Neron. A bonafide skyfather.

http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25421463_28-Underworld_Unleashed_2_pg25.jpg

Never saw Surfer pulling anything like this to Mephisto.

mmm

Surtur
Someone getting a hole blasted through them by a GL isn't really a skyfather then.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
Just for a random tidbit, Kyle blasts a hole through Neron. A bonafide skyfather.

http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25421463_28-Underworld_Unleashed_2_pg25.jpg

Never saw Surfer pulling anything like this to Mephisto.

mmm He has beaten Mephisto. laughing out loud

Oh abhi.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Juntai
Surfer wishes he could pull off some of those feats. thumb up

If the Lanterns were Marvel characters , everybody would be saying how they shitstomp everybody in DC and are the cream of the crop.

quanchi112
And if Surfer were a DC character apply the same thing to yourself.

"Id"
Kyle and Hal have shown that their destructive capacity goes beyond Planet Wrecking, that have space cheese, and battle feats when it comes energy projection.

If the point of this topic is to compare energy projection, than in this sole criteria yes Kyle or Hal are rivals to Surfer.

But just on that criteria alone.

If this topic was asking to compare Kyle and Hal to the Surfer as a whole. I would give the nod to Surfer.

Surtur
Originally posted by "Id"
Kyle and Hal have shown that their destructive capacity goes beyond Planet Wrecking, that have space cheese, and battle feats when it comes energy projection.

If the point of this topic is to compare energy projection, than in this sole criteria yes Kyle or Hal are rivals to Surfer.

But just on that criteria alone.

Nope, Kyle was defeated by Deathstroke.

DarkSaint85
In energy blasting?

Surtur
Ah that's true no, just in a fight(and in life). So damn, GL's could own Surfer. I guess via abc logic Deathstroke could rape Surfer. These poor heralds of Galactus..always getting beat up by lesser foes. I bet Galactus spends a ton of money on therapy.

abhilegend
Yeah, Karnak knocking out Surfer happened.

Get over it.

"Id"
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Karnak knocking out Surfer happened.

Get over it.
And Mexicans

Surtur
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Karnak knocking out Surfer happened.

Get over it.

I never said it didn't. So I will get over it, will you help? It will be like a "I scratch your back you scratch mine" type of deal. You help me get over the Karnak thing, I'll help you get over a GL being defeated by Deathstroke. Deal?

DarkSaint85
I think we should realise by now, the only winner when all the fanboys lie crying and weeping...

....is that DS wins.

Surtur
Darkseid always wins. Anyone who seems to have his insides stuffed full of marshmellowy goodness can't be defeated.

Delta1938
Originally posted by Surtur
Someone getting a hole blasted through them by a GL isn't really a skyfather then.

This is what is called a "circular argument."

Diesldude
Lanterns win.

SquallX
Originally posted by Surtur
Nope, Kyle was defeated by Deathstroke.

Firelord was defeated by Spiderman
Hulk was defeated by an old Lady
King Thor was defeated by Captain America
Iron Man was defeated by Captain America

You're bitchiness is pathetic. It's like you fail to see that pis/cis was a factor.

Delta1938
Originally posted by SquallX
Hulk was defeated by an old Lady

More like embarrassed(if that Hulk could've been embarrassed) IIRC.

Originally posted by SquallX
King Thor was defeated by Captain America

Wasn't Cap amped and Thor's son held hostage so he couldn't fight back?

Other points still stand(at least I'm assuming on Iron Man/Cap; never saw it).

Surtur
Originally posted by SquallX
Firelord was defeated by Spiderman
Hulk was defeated by an old Lady
King Thor was defeated by Captain America
Iron Man was defeated by Captain America

You're bitchiness is pathetic. It's like you fail to see that pis/cis was a factor.

You saw me making sarcastic posts yesterday, then you come in and say this like I'm being serious.

Especially when I have personally talked about dismissing nonsense feats..I wasn't being serious. The point was in another thread abi was essentially saying a low end feat couldn't be dismissed...but he was also in other threads arguing GL's are above Silver Surfer, so if a low end feat can't be dismissed..you see where I was going with that?

BTW you forgot the time Hulk was choked out by a snake, heh.

Genii96
Surfer is a lot better than a GL

Zack M
Kyle wacks Surfer over the head with his surf board

abhilegend
Originally posted by Genii96
Surfer is a lot better than a GL
Let's see all those feats.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Genii96
Surfer is a lot better than a GL Agreed.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
Let's see all those feats. One punch already posted them. Read them.

SquallX
Originally posted by quanchi112
One punch already posted them. Read them.

Stop lying.

quanchi112
Originally posted by SquallX
Stop lying. He has. wink

SquallX
Originally posted by quanchi112
He has. wink

Show them too me then?

The only person that's being posting up pics after the first page as being Ahbi.

quanchi112
Originally posted by SquallX
Show them too me then?

The only person that's being posting up pics after the first page as being Ahbi. Surfer feats

Originally posted by One-Punch
Destroying a planet with his energy is something Surfer can do in his sleep, literally.

Surfer while sleeping on Earth has a nightmare and releases cosmic energy. According to Reed it threatens the entire planet.
http://postimg.org/image/z3jgeqzi5/

Releases enough energy to destroy a planet just to prove a point to Ravenous.
http://s10.postimg.org/qngddm9zd/Annihilation_Silver_Surfer4_017.jpg
http://s10.postimg.org/5cit9crux/Annihilation_Silver_Surfer4_018.jpg

Blows up the planet that Korvac created around him to crush him.
http://s10.postimg.org/3n9q1ac5l/Avengers_Annual_16_20.jpg
http://s10.postimg.org/4ycvw0idl/Avengers_Annual_16_21.jpg

His energy blasts against the Great One were large enough to spread across dozens of planets, accidentally destroying one of them, and killing the the Great One. The Great One was said to rival Galactus and went around the universe transmuting countless stars and planets into brain waves to insert into his psychic dimension. He essentially created his own pocket universe from planets and stars he transmuted.
http://postimg.org/image/3ri1fqw3b/
http://postimg.org/image/jr0ozas53/

A depowered Surfer being goaded by Mephisto to throw more power, till the explosions were as large as Earth and lit up the moon.
http://postimg.org/image/67jutle5z/

When pissed off enough destroys a planet and moon as a side-effect of his battle and knocks out Morg.
http://postimg.org/image/g85c5d5x9/
http://postimg.org/image/xwx2wzhod/

Full-power Surfer lets out an energy blast that destroys a portion of the Enslaver ship--which as a whole easily dwarfed a dozens of planets.
http://postimg.org/image/gc3qzd0sd/
http://postimg.org/image/hsf9hi3p9/

Surfer gives a Doombot his cosmic energy, the Doombot immediately uses said energies to casually destroy a planet to Surfer's surprise, lol
http://postimg.org/image/ux4nb3y0n/
http://postimg.org/image/cvlidb3zr/

Surfer's energy discharges create black holes as a side-effect. We're talking about the same type of energy a collapsed star releasesl.
http://postimg.org/image/o8uka5487/
http://postimg.org/image/3m5uotktj/

Surfer pours out so much energy that it evolves the entire population of a planet BILLIONS of years forward and then he accidentally incinerates the entire planet killing everything.
http://i.imgur.com/jeoKWPx.jpg

A depowered Surfer summons energy from the "infinite reaches of space" and gathers so much energy it dwarfed the planet Earth, readying it to throw at an amped Dutchman.
http://s10.postimg.org/ujzo9gz61/FM_1980_009_17.jpg

Surfer shoots an energy blast to save Kismet from Khatylis, the combination of their three energies accidentally creates an "infinite abyssmal" hole in reality that will cause the entire universe to consume itself.
http://postimg.org/image/x7p80wyhz/
http://postimg.org/image/ahq37xfaf/
http://postimg.org/image/dnaoy4xwn/

Surfer's able to power the Impericon which is so large it had moons on it's suites, and was previously powered by the heart of an abstract entity called the Never Queen--Eternity's GF and the embodiment of possibility.
http://postimg.org/image/g59lnzrev/
http://postimg.org/image/esrwm3tzb/
http://postimg.org/image/8j18cujyf/
http://postimg.org/image/yonw1nb0n/
http://postimg.org/image/6lzwuj3wn/
http://postimg.org/image/8hmp5osqv/

This is the Never Queen:
http://s23.postimg.org/vzobbzpgr/Silver_Surfer_2014_003_002.jpg

Defeats Rune with the IG by blowing up his IG hand with an energy blast. Rune with just the time gem alone froze the 616 time stream.
http://postimg.org/image/asb35n46v/
http://postimg.org/image/on9do3ylz/
http://postimg.org/image/8rkjkt81j/

Defeats Mrruungo with a blast who still had his own might plus the energy he stole from Hulk and Namor
http://postimg.org/image/5lrx9808p/
http://postimg.org/image/f51m2onqx/

Overloads Krosakis with his energy who was being amped with Gladiator's power, the Uni-Power, and countless other aliens he captured.
http://imgur.com/a/I962f#7

Surfer vs. an Elder God Demon, who once powered an ancient advanced civilization and whose power was so potent both Galactus and Thanos wanted it.
http://postimg.org/image/5o4nq27hx/
http://postimg.org/image/wonibr245/
http://postimg.org/image/vwkucjxx1/
http://postimg.org/image/7u40hoh9x/

Knocks down the Stranger with a blast, proceeds to use his energy to burn through the Stranger's shields and burn the Stranger's hand.
http://postimg.org/image/9guwfx4mf/
http://postimg.org/image/etjqu1siv/
http://postimg.org/image/jth71zy5j/

Blasts the Avengers, according to Thor said blast nearly slayed them all.
http://postimg.org/image/rfmkp8u0t/
http://postimg.org/image/z73ansy65/

Uses a chain energy attack and stuns the Avengers for a minute.
http://postimg.org/image/nba9eyi9x/
http://postimg.org/image/gwb8iabk5/

Takes out god Cable with a blast when serious.
http://imgur.com/a/GacDh#7

In a drained near-death state, Srufer matches the energy output of Millenneus who just prior beat down Thor and according to the book took Odin and his army to take down. Millennius even says "Odin himself barely survived against me!"
http://postimg.org/image/8r0oalrnl/
http://postimg.org/image/gl19vzzgh/

I've only gone through about half of Surfer's stuff so far. But I know just about every single one of these will be lowballed lol.

quanchi112
Yeah, Surfer wins this easily.

abhilegend
So no Surfer fan has the balls to match GL feats?

Where is bran? Or Vince?

Such a shame.

thumb up

One Big Mob
The face of obsession

Rao Kal El
Lanterns win

Surtur
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Lanterns win

I was shocked, but then I realized your mistake! You thought this was Silver SAMURAI vs Green Lantern. Which of course then your answer makes sense. I mean f*ck Silver Sammy, amirite?

abhilegend
Originally posted by One Big Mob
The face of obsession
http://images.killermovies.com/forums/custom_avatars/avatar95747_39.gif Originally posted by Surtur
I was shocked, but then I realized your mistake! You thought this was Silver SAMURAI vs Green Lantern. Which of course then your answer makes sense. I mean f*ck Silver Sammy, amirite?
Which feats of Surfer you think are above Lanterns?

Give me one feat.

Surtur
He can fall in love with everyone and sense plant auras.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Surtur
He can fall in love with everyone and sense plant auras.
So nothing but trolling now?

Good.

Surtur
Originally posted by abhilegend
So nothing but trolling now?

It's a funny feeling..knowing how the rest of the board usually feels, isn't it?

Plus at this point what feats can I give that haven't already been posted and horribly dismissed by you?

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by Surtur
I was shocked, but then I realized your mistake! You thought this was Silver SAMURAI vs Green Lantern. Which of course then your answer makes sense. I mean f*ck Silver Sammy, amirite?

No. Silver surfer has respectable feats. But if you look at the gls feats they actually seem bigger. On this particular aspect

Just Kyle creates a shield that contains a nova explosion and overloading OA to destroy it? Come on. That is ubber.
That is just TWO feats of the many posted. I think the evidence is pretty clear to me.

One Big Mob
You bring my name up all the time for random abhi agendas, and are trying to pass off some feats I never saw into some stifling movement for Surfer fans. erm

But it makes sense here that I'm obsessed. Do you even think about your responses anymore besides "how can I say the exact same thing he said but turn it against him?"

Surfer, Bran, DC. That's like 3 out of the 5 things you crave in life.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Surtur
It's a funny feeling..knowing how the rest of the board usually feels, isn't it?

Plus at this point what feats can I give that haven't already been posted and horribly dismissed by you?
I'm not the one bitching about on every feat I don't like as PIS. If you think Surfer is more powerful, post scans. This was hilarious first, now it's just annoying.

Put up or shut up.

abhilegend
Originally posted by One Big Mob
You bring my name up all the time for random abhi agendas, and are trying to pass off some feats I never saw into some stifling movement for Surfer fans. erm

But it makes sense here that I'm obsessed. Do you even think about your responses anymore besides "how can I say the exact same thing he said but turn it against him?"

Surfer, Bran, DC. That's like 3 out of the 5 things you crave in life.
http://images.killermovies.com/forums/user_sigs/4/7/customsig_95747_Yi.gif

Surtur
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
No. Silver surfer has respectable feats. But if you look at the gls feats they actually seem bigger.

Just Kyle creates a shield that contains a nova explosion and overloading OA to destroy it? Come on. That is ubber.
That is just TWO feats of the many posted. I think the evidence is pretty clear.

That is uber, but then I'd have to ask how much more powerful then Hal Jordan and John Stewart you feel Kyle is? The reason I ask..Superman, the guy who needed help from a GL to move the Earth, has flat out been shown busting constructs made by both those characters.

So you don't see a potential issue when one GL can contain a "nova" and others can't contain a dude who doesn't have the power output of a nova?

In a similar vein, Kyle has created a shield around the moon that kept Ultraman locked in and unable to do anything. Yet even though I am unsure about specific Superman feats, I could of sworn I'd also seen *his* shields destroyed by Class 100's.

So what I'm beginning to see is that Kyle is potentially far above any normal GL, and thus using his feats when talking about GL's in general probably isn't the best thing to do.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Surtur
That is uber, but then I'd have to ask how much more powerful then Hal Jordan and John Stewart you feel Kyle is? The reason I ask..Superman, the guy who needed help from a GL to move the Earth, has flat out been shown busting constructs made by both those characters.


It all comes down to Superman and how weak he is.

And you're a Superman fan?

laughing out loud

I like how getting beaten by Superman destroys any feat any character has in this guy's eye.

Kyle has himself said that he is not as powerful as Superman.

Again a conundrum. Oh boy.

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by Surtur
That is uber, but then I'd have to ask how much more powerful then Hal Jordan and John Stewart you feel Kyle is? The reason I ask..Superman, the guy who needed help from a GL to move the Earth, has flat out been shown busting constructs made by both those characters.

So you don't see a potential issue when one GL can contain a "nova" and others can't contain a dude who doesn't have the power output of a nova?

In a similar vein, Kyle has created a shield around the moon that kept Ultraman locked in and unable to do anything. Yet even though I am unsure about specific Superman feats, I could of sworn I'd also seen *his* shields destroyed by Class 100's.

So what I'm beginning to see is that Kyle is potentially far above any normal GL, and thus using his feats when talking about GL's in general probably isn't the best thing to do.

Is a space cheese feat that you want to compare to a vs feat.

Superman has been ko by a gas station and a supernova in the face. One happened on a battle vs Doomsday the other one was a complete space cheese.

Surfer suffers from the same effect, his space cheese feats are awesome but as soon as he enters on vs mode the same effect happens to him.

I don't see any problem with it, because that is how comics work.

Every hero /villain has space cheese feats just to crumble at some point on a vs feat. Is like a hierarchy to mantain.

Philosophía
Originally posted by abhilegend
It all comes down to Superman and how weak he is.

And you're a Superman fan? Remember Shruku on herochat, who was in ninja-mode considered a Superman fan, only to be run off the boards for months by Jelly once he was exposed as being a Marvel fan?

The same situation here, only much more limited mentally and not being taken seriously as a Superman fan at all.

One-Punch
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
No. Silver surfer has respectable feats. But if you look at the gls feats they actually seem bigger. On this particular aspect

Just Kyle creates a shield that contains a nova explosion and overloading OA to destroy it? Come on. That is ubber.
That is just TWO feats of the many posted. I think the evidence is pretty clear to me.
I don't think Surfer is far above Hal/Kyle, and I don't think the difference between the top tier heralds in general is that large. Depending on the story or writer any of the top tiers could defeat each other.

But, the two feats you named are shield and hard light construct feats, not necessarily energy projection. Even then, I don't see how they're above defeating an IG user with a blast, or matching the energy output of an Eternity level being.

abhilegend

abhilegend
Originally posted by One-Punch
I don't think Surfer is far above Hal/Kyle, and I don't think the difference between the top tier heralds in general is that large. Depending on the story or writer any of the top tiers could defeat each other.


Well, you have yet to prove he is their equal?

Still lying about the context, eh? Ruin didn't have the gems in his control.

Where did he matched the energy output of Never Queen? Who is entirely featless BTW? He temporarily powered Imperiocon which impressive doesn't matches the power of the heart as it was doing it for a very long time.

Tell us more about Surfer destroying planets fighting Great One again.

Newjak
Guys make sure to keep it civil in here and to not include any personal insults in your posts

abhilegend
How is this not an energy projection feat?

http://i.imgur.com/q0sQLW2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pCfhfA6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BGqOqDz.jpg

"Id"
Originally posted by One-Punch
I don't think Surfer is far above Hal/Kyle, and I don't think the difference between the top tier heralds in general is that large. Depending on the story or writer any of the top tiers could defeat each other.

But, the two feats you named are shield and hard light construct feats, not necessarily energy projection. Even then, I don't see how they're above defeating an IG user with a blast, or matching the energy output of an Eternity level being.

Deafiting IG user with a blast, Ahbi posted Hal matching up to Zero Hour Parallax. There is context behind Surfers fight with Rune (paritally the IG being incomplete, paritally Rune being inexprienced) but Hal matching ZH Parallax leads strong implications. In the end they are both Outliers.

Matching the energy output of Enerty Level being...Again Hal was mentioned as being a greater nexus of will power than the Central Battery itself.

Those are energy projection feats, and those match the feats you brought up.

"Id"
Originally posted by abhilegend
How is this not an energy projection feat?

http://i.imgur.com/q0sQLW2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pCfhfA6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BGqOqDz.jpg

Thats a really good feat for Kyle.
He blows up the planet.
The explosion completely vaporizes the planet.
Survives the planets explosion.
And absorbs the remaining OAn energies.

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