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Please do not include the Flashes in this but if a Herald did this during the beginning of combat, would this be considered a major speed ft? Who would it be a huge speed ft for in the High Herald tier and what Herald would it be a mediocre speed ft?

We know for Hulk it would be mediocre.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111255045/4830416-serious_consecutive_side_hops.png

What is happening?

What are we supposed to be looking at?

Incomprehensible art?

He is moving so fast it's creating an after image. Which does not say much. You can wave your hand fast enough it will create after image.

So no it would not be considered a major speed feat.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are we supposed to be looking at?

Incomprehensible art?

ABHI, you know what that is. Anyways, if you need me to explain it to you...those are after images. He did that because the guy he was fighting against did this...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/27/f2/50/27f250481f92e146cfcd87e33f01edba.jpg

So he upped him.

Dark, you're no longer on ignore and I seen your comment. You know what that is.

If you fail so hard at reading american comic SCANS, you shouldn't even touch manga.

Originally posted by "Id"
He is moving so fast it's creating an after image. Which does not say much. You can wave your hand fast enough it will create after image.

So no it would not be considered a major speed feat.

Come on, we know it ain't that simple.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
If you fail so hard at reading american comics, you shouldn't even touch manga.

I love Manga and its good to have you back. Glad I'm no longer on ignore.

Originally posted by carver9
I love Manga and its good to have you back. Glad I'm no longer on ignore.



Still on ignore but wanting to laugh a little bit

Lol...so wrong

I'm assuming he's doing a Wally, like in OWAW when Darkseid first comes to Metropolis.

Either that, or he is cloning himself a billion times.

And it therefore depends on the herald. Quicksilver, who is not a herald, can EASILY do it.

However, I assume it is being done from the POV of the reader. So like Id said, I can created after images with my hand - with my human level reactions and perceptions.

A hummingbird can create after images with its wings.

IF we were to assume it was done from the POV of the guy he's fighting, then yes, it's a pretty insane feat (assuming he has great reaction speeds). How fast is that guy?

I don't remember any herald character able to produce so much afterimages with just side-hops.

That's definitely a major speed feat.

Oh no the troll strikes again.

I'm out of here

Originally posted by carver9
ABHI, you know what that is. Anyways, if you need me to explain it to you...those are after images. He did that because the guy he was fighting against did this...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/27/f2/50/27f250481f92e146cfcd87e33f01edba.jpg

So he upped him.

Dark, you're no longer on ignore and I seen your comment. You know what that is.
After images? Is that supposed to be something we should be impressed with? Originally posted by RealityWarper
I don't remember any herald character able to produce so much afterimages with just side-hops.

That's definitely a major speed feat.
Oh look, who is back.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are we supposed to be looking at?

Incomprehensible art?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/12/lol.gif

Originally posted by abhilegend
After images? Is that supposed to be something we should be impressed with?
Oh look, who is back.

I'm not asking you to be impressed. I've NEVER seen anyone outside of Zoom do anything close to that showing.

facepalm



Someone has a hangover.

Carver, just because a character creates after images of themselves doesn't mean there speed is way of there right?

There's this Mawha called The Breaker. Shi-Woon Yi's master who's called the Nine Art Dragon has done the same thing, and he's far below One Punch in all category, do you want me to say there equal in speed?

Hell, part 1 Naruto has done the same thing when he was fighting Haku in his mirrors, and that Naruto was barely supersonic.

Realistically, subsonic is the highest amount you need to start creating after-image of yourself.

Originally posted by carver9
Please do not include the Flashes in this but if a Herald did this during the beginning of combat, would this be considered a major speed ft? Who would it be a huge speed ft for in the High Herald tier and what Herald would it be a mediocre speed ft?

We know for Hulk it would be mediocre.

You know going by your logic, Hulk should be below supersonic since he's never done something like that right?

Originally posted by SquallX
You know going by your logic, Hulk should be below supersonic since he's never done something like that right?

Great, now answer the question to the thread please.

That makes him Spidey level, possibly higher?

http://i.imgur.com/QadgbdL.jpg

How fast was Saitama going in that scene?

Or maybe Kingpin level in speed?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/20066/1155791-857523_amazingspiderman542007oe2_super.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or maybe Kingpin level in speed?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/20066/1155791-857523_amazingspiderman542007oe2_super.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AlphaFlight02pg17copy_zpsbf4ddf82.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That makes him Spidey level, possibly higher?

http://i.imgur.com/QadgbdL.jpg

The guy he's doing that against has moved so fast that the world was at a standstill and lol at that showing being comparable to what Saitama did there.

Originally posted by -K-M-
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AlphaFlight02pg17copy_zpsbf4ddf82.jpg
Light speed!

Originally posted by -K-M-
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AlphaFlight02pg17copy_zpsbf4ddf82.jpg

So that showing is comparable to what I posted? Let's be honest here and not derail thus thread because I made it.

Originally posted by carver9
Please do not include the Flashes in this but if a Herald did this during the beginning of combat, would this be considered a major speed ft? Who would it be a huge speed ft for in the High Herald tier and what Herald would it be a mediocre speed ft?

We know for Hulk it would be mediocre.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111255045/4830416-serious_consecutive_side_hops.png

Look at the showing again

It literally becomes impossible to tell just how fast he was going in the original scan, as people who are fast but not known as speedsters have created after-images.

Originally posted by carver9
The guy he's doing that against has moved so fast that the world was at a standstill and lol at that showing being comparable to what Saitama did there.

Like I said, it depends on who the scene is aimed at.

If Saitama is 'strobing' from the POV of the reader, it's not that great. If from the guy's POV, then a great feat

Anyway, here is Zum, a White Martian, 'strobing' against Wally West. I'm sure I don't need to tell you how fast Wally is:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11113/111130781/3403384-flash_wally_west_0050.jpg

As per Wally, that White Martian wasn't even using the Speed Force. So all natural speed, baby!

I don't think after images necessarily indicate speed anywhere near the speed of light. I would want more then a feat of leaving after images before saying anyone is even near the speed of light.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What is happening?

Yeah, that is one reason I just don't read manga as much as I used to unless I can find it in color. Since otherwise a lot of time I have trouble figuring out exactly what is going on, especially in action sequences.

Context will be nice

I'm disappointed in your carv. You need to ask a mod to close this thread or you lose your position in the gamma gallery

Anyways the title of the thread makes it seem like this was meant for any speed feats besides the Flashes, though the OP's actual post makes it seem like it's just asking how impressive a specific feat is.

But I will name some other feats I liked. Though it does involve Flash kinda, it's the comic where Flash trains Superman to better utilize his speed. At the end of the comic you have a scene where he really pushes himself hard and he does attain the speed of light. This is not even left up in the air, the specific speeds he is going as he accelerates are noted. But then once he passes lightspeed he ends up breaking into some kind of dimension. It was a weird comic.

There was actually a feat where Superman fails. He is on one side of the city and he hears a gunshot and has to basically fly to the other side of the city before the bullet can travel the 15-20 feet to it's target and he actually doesn't get there on time. He'd been repeatedly blasted with red sun radiation though so it is still a good feat. He is just barely too late, though it turns out the shot missed or the person purposely missed the shot, I forget.

Originally posted by carver9
Great, now answer the question to the thread please.

I already did genius. Subsonic is the highest level you need to start creating afterimage.

@Rao,

Who said anything about light speed? You probably want to look at the speed ft you posted for a certain character because there were no indications of how fast he was going but you posted them like the showings were just amazing. Hell, ABHI posted a scan of him stand in place spinning in a circle as a huge speed ft. WTF

Originally posted by carver9
@Rao,

Who said anything about light speed? You probably want to look at the speed ft you posted for a certain character because there were no indications of how fast he was going but you posted them like the showings were just amazing. Hell, ABHI posted a scan of him stand in place spinning in a circle as a huge speed ft. WTF

So you want to qualify a feat just based on the amount of afterimages the artist used?

I don't undestand an artist could use no afterimages and imply ftl speed or use many afterimages to depict subsonic speeds.

So I really don't understand what is it what you want.

You can't consider this a herald tier speed feat if You don't provide context. As shown to you it could be very well a meta speed feat.

That is why I mentioned the non-sequiter

@carver9 :

It's only depending on Speed-o'-Sound Sonic's perception as he is the one targeted by Saitama's technique.

The reader point of view is omniscient on the scenes.

Basically, Saitama's speed overload's Sonic's perception.

I'll quantify it.

Here, Spiderman creates...10? afterimages, against Firelord, herald of Galactus:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/82989/2063410-firelord.jpg

Note, he is also leaping around, twisting his body etc. So not just standing still.

Saitama has ~60 after images. But he is standing still - so I will say Spidey is about 1/2 as fast as Saitama there. Actually, let's make it 1/3 as fast.

So Saitama is 3x as fast as Spidey there.

Spiderman is easily a bullet timer:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/6/61327/1435294-1425643_tasm_637017__1_.jpg

So, as mentioned in that scan, the bullet was travelling at 4000 feet per second.

3 x that, is 12,000 feet per second. Let's round up, and make it 15,000 feet per second. That's about 16,000km/hr.

Here are some magnitudes of speed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(speed)

So not even escape velocity.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'll quantify it.

Here, Spiderman creates...10? afterimages, against Firelord, herald of Galactus:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/82989/2063410-firelord.jpg

Note, he is also leaping around, twisting his body etc. So not just standing still.

Saitama has ~60 after images. But he is standing still - so I will say Spidey is about 1/2 as fast as Saitama there. Actually, let's make it 1/3 as fast.

So Saitama is 3x as fast as Spidey there.

Spiderman is easily a bullet timer:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/6/61327/1435294-1425643_tasm_637017__1_.jpg

So, as mentioned in that scan, the bullet was travelling at 4000 feet per second.

3 x that, is 12,000 feet per second. Let's round up, and make it 15,000 feet per second. That's about 16,000km/hr.

Here are some magnitudes of speed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(speed)

So not even escape velocity.


I don't see the point in showing that Spider-man dodged a bullet.

He has a form of precog' that allows him to moves before the bullet is actually shot.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I don't see the point in showing that Spider-man dodged a bullet.

He has a form of precog' that allows him to moves before the bullet is actually shot.

He does; but I was ignoring it, and assuming he dodged it purely on speed (also, because they had a handy measurement for the speed of the bullet, and the assertion from the sniper that he didn't miss - i.e., no aim dodging there).

If we want to assume that Spiderman dodged that bullet partly due to his Spidey Sense, rather than pure speed, then sure - we can revise my calculations downwards, and Spidey is actually SLOWER than 4,000 feet per second.

Originally posted by carver9
Please do not include the Flashes in this but if a Herald did this during the beginning of combat, would this be considered a major speed ft? Who would it be a huge speed ft for in the High Herald tier and what Herald would it be a mediocre speed ft?

We know for Hulk it would be mediocre.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111255045/4830416-serious_consecutive_side_hops.png

That scene alone does not paint a picture for us to judge how fast he is moving.

Without knowing some solid facts or a point of reference to go about. We can not come up with a relativistic awnser. So the awnser is no. It's not that impressive. Thats a subsonic feat.

How does that feat compare to the following? http://m.imgur.com/a/r30GF

It seems that carver has finally managed to unify all of us on one decision.

This thread is shit


Close this ungodly hell hole before we are all sucked into an eternal abyss of suffering

Originally posted by "Id"
That scene alone does not paint a picture for us to judge how fast he is moving.

Without knowing some solid facts or a point of reference to go about. We can not come up with a relativistic awnser. So the awnser is no. It's not that impressive. Thats a subsonic feat.

How does that feat compare to the following? http://m.imgur.com/a/r30GF

This is the answer they're gonna give you.

He's not moving as fast, he's only moving in one direction. He's speed is only linear.

Originally posted by "Id"
That scene alone does not paint a picture for us to judge how fast he is moving.

Without knowing some solid facts or a point of reference to go about. We can not come up with a relativistic awnser. So the awnser is no. It's not that impressive. Thats a subsonic feat.

How does that feat compare to the following? http://m.imgur.com/a/r30GF

That punk whose car crashed was moving at a pretty high speed - you can see his blurry after effects.

Here, a weakened, poisoned Robin is ALSO in possession of super speed:

https://retconpunchdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/robin-pummels-batman.jpg

Originally posted by SquallX
This is the answer they're gonna give you.

He's not moving as fast, he's only moving in one direction. He's speed is only linear.

Oh my god...

In "ONE DIRECTION".

We are all DOOMED.

It'd be more impressive if OPM ditched the Captain Underpants cosplay.