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Round 1: Sabers only

Round 2: All out fight

Marr easily. No contest.

Marr, but nowhere near easily, kek.

Savage is a brute, he won't be able to cope with Marr's insane speed. Savage can't hold up in any way. He failed against Ventress, an inferior Force user and (arguably) combat. Her speed is considerable, but not on par with Marr. Opress has no chance whatsoever. Marr 10/10.

Darth Marr easily

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Savage is a brute, he won't be able to cope with Marr's insane speed. Savage can't hold up in any way. He failed against Ventress, an inferior Force user and (arguably) combat. Her speed is considerable, but not on par with Marr. Opress has no chance whatsoever. Marr 10/10. Ventress ran away from him...

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Marr, but nowhere near easily, kek.

Originally posted by ILS
Ventress ran away from him...

I'll have to watch the fight again. I was referring to the Obi-Wan and Ventress vs the brothers fight.

Yes, in that fight she got tooled and ran.

I'll have to watch it again. I remembered it being an even duel until Maul disarmed Kenobi and Ventress had to give him one of her lightsabers, but still winning. Memory's shit tho, so I'll rewatch it

Ventress gave Kenobi her second lightsaber but Savage disarmed her and she was holding out unarmed until Kenobi gave her back her other lightsaber. Then it was more or less even between Savage and Ventress, IIRC.

When has Marr demonstrated amazing speed?

He moved faster than his apprentice could see iirc.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Ventress gave Kenobi her second lightsaber but Savage disarmed her and she was holding out unarmed until Kenobi gave her back her other lightsaber. Then it was more or less even between Savage and Ventress, IIRC. She was last seen on the backfoot by him when it starts focusing on Maul and Kenobi primarily.

No wonder Savage is universally considered a lumbering retard if people are under the impression Ventress was beating him

Well, Ventress is no pushover so, still wouldn't make sense. I'd say one-on-one, Kenobi would beat Savage.

Originally posted by ILS
She was last seen on the backfoot by him when it starts focusing on Maul and Kenobi primarily. Well, Ventress literally just got her lightsaber back at that point and Savage jumped for the killing blow, so she's obviously be on the back foot if she just got her weapon back and Savage is coming down on her from the air. To me it kind of looked like a standoff by the time we see them again when Maul kicks Kenobi off the ledge.

Originally posted by ILS
No wonder Savage is universally considered a lumbering retard if people are under the impression Ventress was beating him I'm not under the impression she was, but even if that was the impression, why would Ventress beating Savage make one think he was a lumbering retard...? mmm

What I mean is, if after all this time, people still think Ventress was the superior in that battle despite how easily accessible it is to watch via youtube, then what chance has Savage got? Not generalizing but if there are actually a general population who can't even watch a 5 minute video... dear lord.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Well, Ventress literally just got her lightsaber back at that point and Savage jumped for the killing blow, so she's obviously be on the back foot if she just got her weapon back and Savage is coming down on her from the air. To me it kind of looked like a standoff by the time we see them again when Maul kicks Kenobi off the ledge. I think it stands to reason to assume that she would have been beaten a second time, seeing as the circumstances had not changed, and Kenobi's remark they were outmatched.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I think it stands to reason to assume that she would have been beaten a second time, seeing as the circumstances had not changed, and Kenobi's remark they were outmatched. I wouldn't disagree with that, but at the same time I wouldn't count Ventress out.

Lol ILS. As if losing to Ventress is in any way some horrendous feat. She's top tier in skill and impressive in both her physicals and raw power in the Force.

Also Ventress was only utilizing a single saber when she was far more skilled and experienced with the Jar Kai variant.

Learn to read, champ. I didn't say losing to Ventress is a bad thing. I said people not having the time of day to watch the fight and realize Savage was winning is what is appalling.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Also Ventress was only utilizing a single saber when she was far more skilled and experienced with the Jar Kai variant. Yet in Dark Disciple she opts for a single saber, without any seeming detriment to her ability. So that's questionable.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yet in Dark Disciple she opts for a single saber, without any seeming detriment to her ability. So that's questionable.

Oh she's definitely skilled with just one but given the amount of time she's spent using dual blades it wouldn't make sense that she'd be as skilled with just one saber as she would be with two.