Oversupply of labor

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Time-Immemorial
Will the the continued outsourcing of manufacturing jobs to other countries while importing more and more labor through illegal immigration, and legal even, be the demise of the citizens of the minority communities?

Bardock42
No

Raisen
yes, it could be. it's already hard on so many legal minorities.

Van Hohenheim
How would you stop companies from moving to countries that pay less for the work?

If companies would stop hiring illegal immigrants then the problem would be solved, would it not(regarding this issue)?

Tzeentch
No, automation of the work-force will be the death-knell of manufacturing jobs.

Bringing jobs back from over-seas is a meme. The truth is that a large portion of out-sourced factory work has already been brought back to the states, due to rising wages and safer working conditions in typically cheap-labor countries, as well as increasing price of transporting goods across the globe. You don't hear about these factory jobs coming back to the States though because Americans aren't being hired to work in them... robots are.

In 30 years, there won't be any factory workers. There'll just be a bunch of robots with a small skeleton crew of support staff.

Surtur
Originally posted by Tzeentch
No, automation of the work-force will be the death-knell of manufacturing jobs.

Bringing jobs back from over-seas is a meme. The truth is that a large portion of out-sourced factory work has already been brought back to the states, due to rising wages and safer working conditions in typically cheap-labor countries, as well as increasing price of transporting goods across the globe. You don't hear about these factory jobs coming back to the States though because Americans aren't being hired to work in them... robots are.

In 30 years, there won't be any factory workers. There'll just be a bunch of robots with a small skeleton crew of support staff.

I'm just waiting for some robot politicians. At least they probably wouldn't lie.

jaden101
Here there's been loads of talk in the media of how the government failed to do anything to stop all the steel production moving to China. There's was talk of subsidies and loads of other stuff. Not one of them addressed some of the key issues. The fact that even if the entire workforce worked for free then the plants still couldn't produce steel cheaper than China. Not because the Chinese workers worked for less but because energy costs and chronic underinvestment in the factories made production prohibitively expensive.

There's always more going on than "OMGZ DEM FORINERS R STEALIN OWR JOBZ"

Raisen
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm just waiting for some robot politicians. At least they probably wouldn't lie.

Robot Rubio. Still lied. Probably programmed to do so

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Bardock42
No

Based on?

Tattoos N Scars
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Based on?

If you can get them to work and not collect a check from the government

Esau Cairn
Originally posted by Tzeentch
No, automation of the work-force will be the death-knell of manufacturing jobs.

.

It's both frightening & fantastic at the same time but IKEA already have totally automated factories that manufactures every single product they make.
The factories themselves are totally dark as there is no need for human supervision at all.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Tzeentch
No, automation of the work-force will be the death-knell of manufacturing jobs.

Bringing jobs back from over-seas is a meme. The truth is that a large portion of out-sourced factory work has already been brought back to the states, due to rising wages and safer working conditions in typically cheap-labor countries, as well as increasing price of transporting goods across the globe. You don't hear about these factory jobs coming back to the States though because Americans aren't being hired to work in them... robots are.

In 30 years, there won't be any factory workers. There'll just be a bunch of robots with a small skeleton crew of support staff.
I like the way you think.

Surtur
Originally posted by Raisen
Robot Rubio. Still lied. Probably programmed to do so

His robots name is Robio.

Time-Immemorial
With corporations sending jobs to Mexico and the US importing Mexican immigrants, they will take the jobs that are left of the people currently here.

This is a simple thing to understand but complex for esjw.

Robtard
Watching bill Maher's last show and as noted by Tzeen, improving conditions in places like Mexico means there are less and less undocumented workers coming over than say in the 90s (when it was at a high) as well as jobs formerly outsourced coming back.

Watch yourself TI, in 8ish years you could be trying to sneak over Trump's mega-wall to work illegally in Mexico because conditions are more favourable there.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Watching bill Maher's last show and as noted by Tzeen, improving conditions in places like Mexico means there are less and less undocumented workers coming over than say in the 90s (when it was at a high) as well as jobs formerly outsourced coming back.

Watch yourself TI, in 8ish years you could be trying to sneak over Trump's mega-wall to work illegally in Mexico because conditions are more favourable there.

Well hey as long he just uses the excuse of "I wanted a better life for myself" they will overlook it, right?

Which cities in Mexico would you recommend as the best sanctuary cities? I want to know where I'll be able to commit crimes and then be set free to walk the streets. Maybe get myself a few DUI's..I mean tequilla is good shit so..you know, gotta do what I gotta do.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
Watching bill Maher's last show and as noted by Tzeen, improving conditions in places like Mexico means there are less and less undocumented workers coming over than say in the 90s (when it was at a high) as well as jobs formerly outsourced coming back.

Watch yourself TI, in 8ish years you could be trying to sneak over Trump's mega-wall to work illegally in Mexico because conditions are more favourable there.

Nice job dodging and backpedal.

Unlike most people here I have actually lived down there. And there will never be a case of Americans flocking to Mexico to work. Never going to happen.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Well hey as long he just uses the excuse of "I wanted a better life for myself" they will overlook it, right?

Which cities in Mexico would you recommend as the best sanctuary cities? I want to know where I'll be able to commit crimes and then be set free to walk the streets. Maybe get myself a few DUI's..I mean tequilla is good shit so..you know, gotta do what I gotta do. Won't fly, Mexico is notoriously harsh on its undocumented/illegals.

TI's going to have to lay low and do the jobs Mexican citizens in Mexico don't want to do.

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Nice job dodging and backpedal.

Seriously, what?

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Won't fly, Mexico is notoriously harsh on its undocumented/illegals.



But..but I told you I wanted a better life. That isn't good enough? I'm sure they will welcome me. Okay okay so they won't allow me 4 DUI's. Maybe like 2 dui's?

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
But..but I told you I wanted a better life. That isn't good enough? I'm sure they will welcome me. Okay okay so they won't allow me 4 DUI's. Maybe like 2 dui's?

I understand your comedy angle, but personally, I want the US to be better than a corrupt craphole like Mexico. Where Mexican police freely rob, beat, rape and sometimes kill Guatemalan, Honduran, El Salvadorian etc immigrants making their way north.

Surtur
Not true, everyone knows cops in the US are the worst ever.

But still, maybe we should aim to be like mexico when it comes to illegal immigration and..well, not aim to be like them in any other aspect of life.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
Watching bill Maher's last show and as noted by Tzeen, improving conditions in places like Mexico means there are less and less undocumented workers coming over than say in the 90s (when it was at a high) as well as jobs formerly outsourced coming back.

Watch yourself TI, in 8ish years you could be trying to sneak over Trump's mega-wall to work illegally in Mexico because conditions are more favourable there.

What a utter load of crap and bullshit, never going to happen.

Surtur
A wall just wouldn't work. Where is forcefield technology when you need it? Some scientist needs to get on that, stat.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur


But still, maybe we should aim to be like mexico when it comes to illegal immigration and..well, not aim to be like them in any other aspect of life.

How about no

Time-Immemorial
What Rob and pretty much every liberal did here is deny facts and the cold hard truth and just repeat and spin the topic from the cold hard facts, which is liberal ideology, EPA and high corporate tax rate has made corporations run from America.

So while the corporations are running, they want to import cheap labor to fill non existent jobs.

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What Rob and pretty much every liberal did here is deny facts and the cold hard truth and just repeat and spin the topic from the cold hard facts, which is liberal ideology, EPA and high corporate tax rate has made corporations run from America.

So while the corporations are running, they want to import cheap labor to fill non existent jobs.

Considering I didn't comment on those, I'm not sure how I denied them?

Time-Immemorial
You made jokes and spun the topic and we all know you are pro immigration.

Which begs the question, why do you want more people coming here to fill jobs that are no longer here, which means you really just want welfare extended for no other reason then to ensue the welfare state to non citizens.

Robtard
Well Bill Maher disagrees with you, my comment was from him, as I noted.

edit: To your edit, you need to understand supply and demand. Immigrants seeking better jobs generally don't come in for non-existent jobs. Hence Maher's point on the slowing of immigrants from the south.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What Rob and pretty much every liberal did here is deny facts and the cold hard truth and just repeat and spin the topic from the cold hard facts, which is liberal ideology, EPA and high corporate tax rate has made corporations run from America.

So while the corporations are running, they want to import cheap labor to fill non existent jobs.



They won't have a "non exixtent job".

IT will be there job to vote Democrat.

Time-Immemorial
Exactly, their vote gets them welfare.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Exactly, their vote gets them welfare.


And remember according to Nancy Pelosi that will make the country Lots of MONEY!

Time-Immemorial
Chelsea and Hillary already said Obamacare can and should be used for Illegals.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/21/hillary-clinton-illegal-immigrants-should-be-allowed-to-get-obamacare/

http://www.inquisitr.com/2907196/chelsea-clinton-says-hillary-clinton-wants-obamacare-for-illegal-aliens-video/

This of coarse is stark contrast to Obama saying "No it won't be."

Astner
Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
How would you stop companies from moving to countries that pay less for the work?

If companies would stop hiring illegal immigrants then the problem would be solved, would it not?
People aren't "illegal immigrants," in their own countries.

You want to stop companies from relying on third world labor? Tax it to the point where it would become cheaper to rely on national labor. Or is that too socialist for you?

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
How about no

Why not? Why not be harder on illegals?

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Astner
People aren't "illegal immigrants," in their own countries.

You want to stop companies from relying on third world labor? Tax it to the point where it would become cheaper to rely on national labor. Or is that too socialist for you?

Van is communist so no.

Tzeentch
It's a "TI wants to ***** about immigrants and liberals but he has to pretend to be interested in two-way discussion so the mods don't jump up his ass' thread.

Such a waste of a potentially good topic.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Why not? Why not be harder on illegals?

I noted that being 'robbed, beaten raped and murdered' by officials happen.

So before we go further, what exactly do you mean by "harder"?

meep-meep
Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
How would you stop companies from moving to countries that pay less for the work?

If companies would stop hiring illegal immigrants then the problem would be solved, would it not(regarding this issue)?

Pretty much.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
I noted that being 'robbed, beaten raped and murdered' by officials happen.

So before we go further, what exactly do you mean by "harder"?

Well no rape or murder, and no beating unless they resist arrest. I guess for some reason I thought you were saying officials just do that to whoever they want instead of just illegals.

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