Elektra(Netflix) vs Black Widow(Avengers) With suprise Under Card

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golem370
Two badass chicks face off. With an under card Daredevil & Punisher(Netflix) vs Depowered Thor & Hawkeye (Avengers). Widow is sent to kill Elektra so she tracks down on a roof top and they start fight no weapons. Who wins both battles? The two on two is with no weapons.

Henry_Pym
Probably Widow, especially with her Jobber aura. Elly got tagged a lot by jobbers.

golem370
She also in battle with Matt, Stick, and Hand members

Henry_Pym
And Widow fought Ultron... He would rofl stomp the Netflix guys.

golem370
It would be a close fight.

Henry_Pym
Between an army of Ultrons vs the Hand?

Lol

golem370
Between Black Widow and Elektra.

Arachnid1
Widow comfortably wins

golem370
I think Elektra showed better skill she showed good agility getting up on the top of the train.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Elektra has beaten better people... and easily so.

Kotor3
Agreed from my memory Elektra has fought and beaten enemies that were more skilled than the ones Black Window faced.

FrothByte
The Hand were more skilled than any fodder Widow has beaten.

KuRuPT Thanosi
True dat

golem370
What about the undrr card fight lol

TheVaultDweller
I have to agree there. The Hand ninjas, being able to hide from guys with super senses, keep up with cars by racing across rooftops etc. were clearly meant to be portrayed as a lot more formidable than the average fodder, like the ones we see Widow usually beat without the aid of gadgets.

Edit: Based on the Civil War trailer, it looks like Widow is going to get some new H2H feats, taking on a group of armed Hydra guys, but will have to wait and see just how well she does without her standard gear and uniform.

TheVaultDweller
The DD & Punisher vs Hawkeye and Thor match go to team 1. Hawkeye literally has no notable pure H2H feats to speak of, at least not compared to the other 3 combatants, so he's the weak link here.

golem370
He fought BW and lost Thor fought a couple shield fodder and won.

TheVaultDweller
Those SHIELD agents might be featless, but the point is that Thor did beat them, and pretty easily.

Hawkeye's only fight against an opponent of note was Black Widow. And he had his bow, arrows, and a knife, and was mind-controlled/bloodlusted, where as Widow was unarmed, holding back, and had just gotten swiped by the Hulk. And he still lost. Not exactly a good showing for him.

FrothByte
SHIELD agents have consistently been portrayed as very skilled fighters, so that's a good fodder feat for Thor. Thor also has some pretty good durability feats while being human. Hawkeye on the other hand has only beaten crappy fodder and lost to BW. Not exactly a great resume for h2h fights.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Elektra beating Kirigi is leaps and bounds better than anything BW has done in any showing

TheVaultDweller
This is the Netflix version though, so her best showings are beating Stick, some other assassin sent to kill her, and fodderizing Hand ninjas.

Arachnid1
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The DD & Punisher vs Hawkeye and Thor match go to team 1. Hawkeye literally has no notable pure H2H feats to speak of, at least not compared to the other 3 combatants, so he's the weak link here. I wouldn't say so. Exploding arrows launched at DD and Castles feat would likely kill them, so he could probably solo.

TheVaultDweller
OP said it was two-on-two with no weapons. If they had gear it would end up being a sniping match between Hawkeye and Punisher, which Hawkeye would likely end up winning, based on his virtually inhuman aim. H2H though he has no feats of note.

golem370
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
This is the Netflix version though, so her best showings are beating Stick, some other assassin sent to kill her, and fodderizing Hand ninjas.

They seemed to be train similarly as assassins. Punisher on Netflix was very impressive like I said she showed above average agility in the train yard.

Arachnid1
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
OP said it was two-on-two with no weapons. If they had gear it would end up being a sniping match between Hawkeye and Punisher, which Hawkeye would likely end up winning, based on his virtually inhuman aim. H2H though he has no feats of note. Yeah your right.

Hawkeye is pointless without his bow and arrow. Weird fight

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