Wonder Woman Vs Gladiator

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riv6672
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111143187/4003937-ww.jpg

No prep.
No BFR.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111203919/4376011-2802776-113537_90622_gladiator_super.jpg

deathslash
Kallark could and probably should win, but his piercing durability has historically been pretty shitty and Diana has more skill. Wonder woman 7/10 but gladiator makes her work for every single win.

ShadowFyre
Glads should take a heavy majority. But if he starts losing confidence because she can take his best and dish it right back out then the fight is going to turn really quickly. And if there is someone that I could see doing that, it would be Wonder Woman. She is a straight up f'in warrior, my favorite Justice Leaguer by far and she has two hax ass weapons on her. She's a beast for real.

Glads still wins though.

Genii96
Kallark knocks her teeth out,I don't remember kallark having low piercing durability,and diana's durability is even worse

deathslash
Originally posted by Genii96
Kallark knocks her teeth out,I don't remember kallark having low piercing durability,and diana's durability is even worse he's gotten stabbed straight through by random alien spears. He also has waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy more low showings than her and while her piercing durability is horrid, her blunt force damage is amazing.

carver9
Wonder Woman wins but Gladiator peircing durability is the best. That alien blade was magical.

leonidas
logan's claws aren't alien..... shifty

and ww does win. likely as strong, nearly as fast with weapons and skill advantages. she should take a solid majority but they'd be good fights.

riv6672
Sweet, guys. And, sweet guys! Thanks!

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by leonidas
logan's claws aren't alien..... shifty

and ww does win. likely as strong, nearly as fast with weapons and skill advantages. she should take a solid majority but they'd be good fights.

They're magical??

Only for Stilt...

leonidas
heh hey, can't blame me for not reading the entirety of carv's post.....

zopzop
With lasso, WW wins.

Without lasso, she dies painfully.

RadZoa
Wolverine's claws pierced Gladiator like a hot knife through butter. Granted it's Wolverine but if you compare it to how Thor held up against Wolverine's claws Gladiator defense against bladed weapons is that great.

RadZoa
Here it is

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HCiMpUsThao/Tq8Za4uzskI/AAAAAAAAFao/pQYY-dMkMZM/s1600/annihilators%2Bearthfall%2B%25232.jpg

riv6672
Quite a hodge podge of opinions.

h1a8
WW wins the majority. It wouldn't be very easy though.
Without the lasso, WW still wins due to skill. Her defense is excellent, and her counter attack is devastating.

riv6672
She gets you coming and going...yes

Stoic
When it comes to Gladiator, it isn't hard to see how much Marvel hates Superman. They've pretty much summed up how they would treat Superman if he were a Marvel character. Based on how often he jobs, Wonder Woman would likely beat the snot out of him.

Surtur
I just think that with some of the people that Wolverine's claws have failed to pierce..I'd just call them piercing Gladiator a low showing for Gladiator.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Surtur
I just think that with some of the people that Wolverine's claws have failed to pierce..I'd just call them piercing Gladiator a low showing for Gladiator.

Not really, since he made plenty of characters with comparable durability bleed just fine... he's been doing it for years.


Count Nefaria
PG Thanos
amped Mangog
the Hulk (various incarnations over the years)
Titannus

The list goes on.

Zack M
WW.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not really, since he made plenty of characters with comparable durability bleed just fine... he's been doing it for years.


Count Nefaria
PG Thanos
amped Mangog
the Hulk (various incarnations over the years)
Titannus

The list goes on. PR Molecule Man too.

riv6672
Originally posted by Zack M
WW.
Thanks for the bump.

alpsman123
Gladiator takes this one, WW would get a few hits in but but Gladiator would win the overall fight. I think Gladiator vs Superman would of been more fair.

h1a8
Originally posted by alpsman123
Gladiator takes this one, WW would get a few hits in but but Gladiator would win the overall fight. I think Gladiator vs Superman would of been more fair. what advantages does Gladiator have on WW?

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman wins but Gladiator peircing durability is the best. That alien blade was magical.


Wow. The loyalty is gone.

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by h1a8
what advantages does Gladiator have on WW?

Stronger, faster, EP, man. Gladiator dusts her off.

EcstaticGrace
I'd honestly put Superman above Kallark and Diana above Superman basing it off their fights in the New52. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Tattoos N Scars
I don't know much about nu52 Diana, but pre Flashpoint could pull an even split.

riv6672
She's a wonder.

Surtur
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not really, since he made plenty of characters with comparable durability bleed just fine... he's been doing it for years.


Count Nefaria
PG Thanos
amped Mangog
the Hulk (various incarnations over the years)
Titannus

The list goes on.

So Wolverines claws have never failed to cut anyone? Or those they failed to cut were all massively more durable then those you listed?

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by alpsman123
Gladiator takes this one, WW would get a few hits in but but Gladiator would win the overall fight. I think Gladiator vs Superman would of been more fair.

That would be considered common sense, but increasingly, sense isn't very common around here.

DarkSaint85
Strontians are pretty vulnerable to magic...

http://i.imgur.com/PjxiVzo.jpg

Of course, Gladiator can fight past it with his self-confidence. But seeing as he has a fair few defeats, his confidence can't be THAT high...

bluewaterrider
Nu52 Wonder Woman is less prone to slugfest than the 2003 to 2008 version, is more ruthless, and more apt to use weaponry. Given her showings in overcoming Supergirl, Faora, Zod, and the "God of Strength" version of Superman, I'd really like to know specifically why Gladiator should be given the nod. What exactly does he bring to the table that Diana hasn't already beaten?

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Strontians are pretty vulnerable to magic...

http://i.imgur.com/PjxiVzo.jpg

Of course, Gladiator can fight past it with his self-confidence. But seeing as he has a fair few defeats, his confidence can't be THAT high...

It's confidence in his mission. Also, WW doesn't spell cast. When the shoe is on the other foot so to speak, Superman fans swears Thor's magic will have no effect on Superman whatsoever.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It's confidence in his mission. Also, WW doesn't spell cast. When the shoe is on the other foot so to speak, Superman fans swears Thor's magic will have no effect on Superman whatsoever.

Because Superman at least has magical resistance feats.

Whilst she does not spellcast, she has magical weaponry. Hell, her fists are magical clay.

Her sword, her lasso....all magical.

StiltmanFTW
But her vagina is non-magical.

She gets raped.

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because Superman at least has magical resistance feats.

Whilst she does not spellcast, she has magical weaponry. Hell, her fists are magical clay.

Her sword, her lasso....all magical.

Her fists? Has Superman every commented on her magical fists?

EcstaticGrace
New52 Wonder Woman wasnt made from Clay she is Divine I don't think that means magical in nature just has divinity due to being a Demi-God or better yet now a full on God. Still think she takes it.

h1a8
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Stronger, faster, EP, man. Gladiator dusts her off.

Gladiator is just a little stronger.
WW is slightly faster in combat (she has better feats).
What's EP?

So basically Glads has one advantage?

1. WW is a better fighter.
2. WW has lasso
3. WW has sword
4. WW is faster in combat

Those advantages outweighs his slight advantage.

carver9
Love me some Gladiator as a charaacter but I dont see how he is winning this. Here is Diana vs Superman who is amped off of energy that is infinitely more powerful than Earths son. She tells us that she isn't going to fight him and still have the speed to tie him up into submission...

http://s28.postimg.org/szr4j78jt/Justice_League_2011_047_008.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/wn6vp9gqx/Justice_League_2011_047_009.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/5dviarfnt/Justice_League_2011_047_010.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/dyou1xpu1/Justice_League_2011_047_018.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/vq0gge58p/Justice_League_2011_047_019.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/3r6apj3m1/Justice_League_2011_047_020.jpg

carver9
Dont see how he is winning this.

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by carver9
Love me some Gladiator as a charaacter but I dont see how he is winning this. Here is Diana vs Superman who is amped off of energy that is infinitely more powerful than Earths son. She tells us that she isn't going to fight him and still have the speed to tie him up into submission...

http://s28.postimg.org/szr4j78jt/Justice_League_2011_047_008.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/wn6vp9gqx/Justice_League_2011_047_009.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/5dviarfnt/Justice_League_2011_047_010.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/dyou1xpu1/Justice_League_2011_047_018.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/vq0gge58p/Justice_League_2011_047_019.jpg http://s28.postimg.org/3r6apj3m1/Justice_League_2011_047_020.jpg

I feel like New52 Diana would take a majority against New52 Clark but I honestly took that scene when Originally reading it as Superman being more powerful but having no control of all this power he just got.

carver9
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I feel like New52 Diana would take a majority against New52 Clark but I honestly took that scene when Originally reading it as Superman being more powerful but having no control of all this power he just got.

But he did have control of it as shown when he cleansed the city of the plague. He had complete control over it. Its just a good showing for Diana.

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by carver9
But he did have control of it as shown when he cleansed the city of the plague. He had complete control over it. Its just a good showing for Diana.

K, nothing changes the fact I still think she takes the majority over Superman

carver9
Based off showings, I agree with you.

abhilegend
Superman is dying and the lasso explicitly only helped restore Superman's mind.

In normal state he casually bitchslapped her aside when she tried to wrap him in lasso.

abhilegend
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
K, nothing changes the fact I still think she takes the majority over Superman
Haha, no. Doomsday treated her life nothing. Superman tore him apart with his bare hands.

She looks better than how she fared pre Flashpoint buy it's made clear several times that Superman is the top dog when it actually matters.

riv6672
So when she's chumping him, it doesnt matter.

Also, while (debating single Company matches where interaction actually happens) how two different characters do against a third IS a good measuring stick, its also not the end all be all you (and TBF, others here) often try and make it seem.
What matters is how the characters do agains each other.
And WW has Supes' number more often than not.

abhilegend
Troll someone else with that logic. This is what happened when she tried the lasso on a superman who was explicitly not trying to hurt her.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15217447_111.jpg

Casually bitchslapped aside. Her only hope is that his mind becomes unstable and she can help him regain with the lasso.
That's how it goes for every single fight they have where Superman is handicapped by not being in his right mind.

In a straight up fight she is far inferior to him and explicitly unable to outfight him.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Troll someone else with that logic. This is what happened when she tried the lasso on a superman who was explicitly not trying to hurt her.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15217447_111.jpg

Casually bitchslapped aside. Her only hope is that his mind becomes unstable and she can help him regain with the lasso.
That's how it goes for every single fight they have where Superman is handicapped by not being in his right mind.

In a straight up fight she is far inferior to him and explicitly unable to outfight him.

Lol...she isn't fighting him there. Read the scan.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman is dying and the lasso explicitly only helped restore Superman's mind.

In normal state he casually bitchslapped her aside when she tried to wrap him in lasso.

Lol..the extra power was killing him but he was still amped.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Lol..the extra power was killing him but he was still amped.
Yes, and his mind was still unstable. What is your point? That she can help him restore his mind? How does that helps her in a fight?

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...she isn't fighting him there. Read the scan.
Yet, when the same lasso had him restore his mind, she was fighting him?

Never change carter.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, and his mind was still unstable. What is your point? That she can help him restore his mind? How does that helps her in a fight?

That showing is beastly though. You would've used the hell out of it if the shoe was on the other foot. Wonder Woman admits she was holding back and subdued Superman while doing this. This doesn't make Superman look bad, this just tells us how powerful Diana is. Aren't you the same guy that use Superman vs Monel even though Monel was compromised during the time?

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yet, when the same lasso had him restore his mind, she was fighting him?

Never change carter.

ABHI, I want you to look at the difference in both scenes. Look at the difference ABHI.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I never said I had a point.

Then stop trolling, and making posts that have no point and therefore, nothing to do with the thread thumb up

carver9
Edit.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
I never said I had a point. That showing is beastly though. You would've used the hell out of it if the shoe was on the other foot. Wonder Woman admits she was holding back and subdued Superman while doing this.

Hahaha, Superman stopped fighting back. He was never subdued. Shut up if you can't read shit.

This isn't a feat at all. It shows Superman stopping fighting back because his mind was restored. It's even below the likes of J'onn who can restore the mind of Superdoom while Diana gets thrown aside like garbage.


http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19645790/6387271.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19645794/2158024.jpg.html

In A straight up fight he got oneshotted by Superboy.

And he wasn't compromised. Eclipso had taken over his body. And Superman KTFO him. Not restored his mind.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
ABHI, I want you to look at the difference in both scenes. Look at the difference ABHI.
Oh shut up already.

Sin I AM
Has Gladiator had a recent boost? What's his current standing i know his history just not much since SW

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, Superman stopped fighting back. He was never subdued. Shut up if you can't read shit.

This isn't a feat at all. It shows Superman stopping fighting back because his mind was restored. It's even below the likes of J'onn who can restore the mind of Superdoom while Diana gets thrown aside like garbage.


http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19645790/6387271.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19645794/2158024.jpg.html

In A straight up fight he got oneshotted by Superboy.

And he wasn't compromised. Eclipso had taken over his body. And Superman KTFO him. Not restored his mind.

http://postimg.org/image/dyou1xpu1/

Stopped fighting back huh? It doesn't matter if he did or didn't anyways since the lasso is standard equipment for Diana. Lol...also, her wrapping the lasso around Superman to the point that he couldn't do anything is him being subdued (lol, wtf).

If MM would've mind raped Superman, then it would've been a ft for him, not the opposite. I don't get your point.

Uuummmm, that wasn't Monel in the driver seat, it was Eclipso which means what? Say it with me...Monel was compromised.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
http://postimg.org/image/dyou1xpu1/

Stopped fighting back huh? It doesn't matter if he did or didn't anyways since the lasso is standard equipment for Diana.

Yes. he stopped fighting back. If you can't read that, its not my fault.

Damaged psyche isn't standard for Superman though.



She bound far more to him when he wasn't damaged and he effortlessly broke out.





Haha, what are you talking about now carter. J'onn did the same thing wonder woman did.



Mon-El wasn't suffering from damaged psyche there which the lasso healed.

Seriously, shut up now.

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by Surtur
I just think that with some of the people that Wolverine's claws have failed to pierce..I'd just call them piercing Gladiator a low showing for Gladiator.
Or a high end showing like when his claws went right through IG Thanos or tore up Hercules, oh abd Wolverine did pierce Thor with a suckershot from above like what he did to Glads

Inedian
Gladiator wins.

Genii96
Kallark wins

riv6672
Thanks for the bump(s).

StiltmanFTW
Leave it to abhi to lazy-quote people, without turning off.

jrodslam
It would be a cool fight minus the lasso. Honestly, i think the longer it goes, the more it goes in WW's favor.

Surtur
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Or a high end showing like when his claws went right through IG Thanos or tore up Hercules, oh abd Wolverine did pierce Thor with a suckershot from above like what he did to Glads

The IG Thanos feat I wouldn't even classify as a high showing. That doesn't do it justice. It's like a 12 yr. old boy projected his mind into the body of whoever wrote that comic.

But I could of sworn in the past Wolverine has failed to cut Colossus?

Also what about the time Gladiator broke one of Wolverine's claws? He just snapped it right off. It's possible it could of been an alternate version.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Surtur
But I could of sworn in the past Wolverine has failed to cut Colossus?

No. He has scored his armor, as stated on panel.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Surtur
Also what about the time Gladiator broke one of Wolverine's claws? He just snapped it right off. It's possible it could of been an alternate version.

Non-canon, yes.

Surtur
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No. He has scored his armor, as stated on panel.

What does "scored" his armor mean?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Surtur
The IG Thanos feat I wouldn't even classify as a high showing. That doesn't do it justice. It's like a 12 yr. old boy projected his mind into the body of whoever wrote that comic.

He was using PG only, it just shows that it doesn't grant total invulnerability as it was believed to.

Surtur
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was using PG only, it just shows that it doesn't grant total invulnerability as it was believed to.

But doesn't the power gem increase durability?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Surtur
What does "scored" his armor mean?

That the claws left their marks, basically... no significant damage, but under Dracula's control, Wolverine's swipe wasn't exactly performed in a correct manner.

"Colossus' organic steel armor is super-strong, but no match for adamantium" - from the comic itself.

Originally posted by Surtur
But doesn't the power gem increase durability?

It does, it does.

But apparently not to a high enough degree. Remember, even Spider-Man's kick affected Thanos in the very same book.

Surtur
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That the claws left their marks, basically... no significant damage, but under Dracula's control, Wolverine's swipe wasn't exactly performed in a correct manner.

"Colossus' organic steel armor is super-strong, but no match for adamantium" - from the comic itself.

So what does this mean? Does it mean if Wolverine was in control and tried to swipe him the claws would do significantly more damage?



If Spider-Man kicking him had any affect it almost sounds like the power gem weakened him. Thanos normally shouldn't be affected by a kick like that, let alone with the power gem. Was this some kind of cosmic Spider-Man? Did he have the Captain Universe powers?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Surtur
So what does this mean? Does it mean if Wolverine was in control and tried to swipe him the claws would do significantly more damage?

Yes, as seen in Aaron's Wolverine run, when Wolverine (technically, Hellverine) - cut and stabbed Colossus...

Piotr's piercing durability is great, but it's not at "no-selling adamantium claws" level.

Originally posted by Surtur
If Spider-Man kicking him had any affect it almost sounds like the power gem weakened him. Thanos normally shouldn't be affected by a kick like that, let alone with the power gem. Was this some kind of cosmic Spider-Man? Did he have the Captain Universe powers?

All comics have wtf panels like that. Darkseid bleeding after Batman's kick, for example.

It was a perfectly normal, classic Spider-Man. Peter Parker. And it was written by Starlin himself, the guy who is famous for wanking Thanos and even retconning his every low showing into a Thanosi showing...

Shit like that just happens in comics, lol.

jrodslam
Well in theory, Wolvies claws CAN cut through Colossus. Thing is, hes not strong enough to apply the pressure to do it.

jrodslam
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, as seen in Aaron's Wolverine run, when Wolverine (technically, Hellverine) - cut and stabbed Colossus...

Piotr's piercing durability is great, but it's not at "no-selling adamantium claws" level.



All comics have wtf panels like that. Darkseid bleeding after Batman's kick, for example.

It was a perfectly normal, classic Spider-Man. Peter Parker. And it was written by Starlin himself, the guy who is famous for wanking Thanos and even retconning his every low showing into a Thanosi showing...

Shit like that just happens in comics, lol.

And to piggy back off that, Look at Despero. Hes taken on multiple powerhouses at the same time and whooped their asses.. and yet Aquaman was able to pierce his skin with a pole. erm

StiltmanFTW
Have you watched Justice League: War? laughing out loud

Wonder Woman is all happy to stab Darkseid in the eye with her magical sword. And Flash just gets himself a standard crowbar to do the same laughing out loud

jrodslam
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Have you watched Justice League: War? laughing out loud

Wonder Woman is all happy to stab Darkseid in the eye with her magical sword. And Flash just gets himself a standard crowbar to do the same laughing out loud

Id let that slide just because Thats a soft spot and super vulnerable

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by jrodslam
Well in theory, Wolvies claws CAN cut through Colossus. Thing is, hes not strong enough to apply the pressure to do it.

His claws were stated to be honed so keen they could cut through anything.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbsurdlySharpBlade

Just don't apply RL logic here, lol. Count Nefaria, Gladiator, PG Thanos, amped Mangog... and many, many more... all have been damaged by them.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by jrodslam
Id let that slide just because Thats a soft spot and super vulnerable

Sure, but... that was Darkseid, man... sad

For a comparison, someone like regular Savage Hulk has been able to no-sell such attacks.

jrodslam
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sure, but... that was Darkseid, man... sad

For a comparison, someone like regular Savage Hulk has been able to no-sell such attacks.

Ehh. Inconsistency on writers part. Remember in WWH, it Worked when X-23 did it. His hf just happened to be on steroids that series, lol. Very viable tactic.

jrodslam
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
His claws were stated to be honed so keen they could cut through anything.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbsurdlySharpBlade

Just don't apply RL logic here, lol. Count Nefaria, Gladiator, PG Thanos, amped Mangog... and many, many more... all have been damaged by them.

And they "could" cut through anything. You just have to apply the pressure.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ehh. Inconsistency on writers part. Remember in WWH, it Worked when X-23 did it. His hf just happened to be on steroids that series, lol. Very viable tactic.

Yeah, but X-23 uses adamantium claws stick out tongue

Originally posted by jrodslam
And they "could" cut through anything. You just have to apply the pressure.

Then not much pressure at all needs to be applied to damage someone like Colossus, if more durable guys got carved(9) up wink

jrodslam
Different types of durability. Skin density is something different.

StiltmanFTW
Oh, please...

He's cut through one-foot thick omnium (not to be confused with osmium) door as if it was made out of paper... stick out tongue

jrodslam
lol heeeey. Whats that ranked on the Marvel scale of metals? Adamantium, Vibranium, Osmium, Carbonadium..........Omnium?

StiltmanFTW
Osmium is a real life metal stick out tongue Way below any of those you listed.

Vibranium's durability is hard to be measured because of its nature... as you know, it absorbs the kinetic energy. I like to believe that it's still super-tough even without that specific trait, but some disagree.

Marvel should totally make an official top 10 list, one day.

Booya_69
Bump.

abhilegend
Diana

Booya_69
Originally posted by abhilegend
Diana

Really? Based off her physicals? Or is the lasso and sword combo too deadly

leonidas
the lasso would be the biggest issue but she's certainly strong enough and skilled enough to take maybe half just based on her physicals.

Booya_69
Originally posted by leonidas
the lasso would be the biggest issue but she's certainly strong enough and skilled enough to take maybe half just based on her physicals.

I see. I know she looks most impressive during fights, but does she (n52 /rebirth) have comparable strength feats? Like rocking the planet or even shaking a continent. Punch out a high herald?

StiltmanFTW
Glads wipes his ass off with her pretty face.

Stoic
Originally posted by leonidas
the lasso would be the biggest issue but she's certainly strong enough and skilled enough to take maybe half just based on her physicals.

Diana's recent showing against Mongul suggests one, or two things. Mongul is extraordinarily strong to the point that he surpasses the elite top tier strength class, or Diana isn't truly among the elite top tier strength class.

Is Gladiator within the elite top tier strength class? I've always believed that he was/is.

I'm not saying that she doesn't have the option to use her lasso, but what I noticed is that it isn't her automatic go to move. In fact I don't recall her using it against Mongul when she recently went to War World to free Artemis. Mongul was clearly above her level of strength, and appeared to be confident that he had the power to kill the both of them. They fled the planet after momentarily stopping him.

I'm wondering how well Gladiator would do in Diana's place so that comparisons can be made.

leonidas
depends on how much stock you put in the mongul showing though. we've seen enough from diana to suggest she is in the top tier--captain marvel/adam tier at least. if we subbed billy into that scene, would he have done better? we could ay we'd sub in a bunch of people, but if the scene was simply intended to briefly spotlight mongul it wouldn't matter.

i'd say that is not a typical portrayal of diana, so i don't put much stock in it, personally. we've seen her do much better against the best in dc, including superman.

StiltmanFTW
Diana is trash tier low street:

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
One of the bullets that bounced off Superman's chest:

https://i.ibb.co/C0zCM5Y/diana01.jpg https://i.ibb.co/d5tDwwt/diana02.jpg

Superman needed to cauterize the wound, too.

She also required Raven's magical help to heal and had to face Thanatos in the afterlife.

Took her an issue and a half to recover and rejoin her teammates...

Booya_69
You post that often, but Diana has back handed a sniper bullet before with no damage. She tanked a couple bullets from hand guns in the beginning of rebirth

StiltmanFTW
She also got floored by a single one smile

StiltmanFTW
Nvr? Is that you?

Booya_69

h1a8
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
She also got floored by a single one smile Which has no bearing on this fight.

Even if this thread is bullet vs Diana's body, you can't pick and choose the one low showing over the contradictory multiple higher ones. Thsts the definition of lowballing, which is trolling under the forum rules.

StiltmanFTW

h1a8
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://64.media.tumblr.com/8e82513a43d04cf27c78d51f27f215fb/tumblr_mhnswgVr7T1rt8mkvo6_500.gif



That's no lowballing.

Diana has always been all over the place, as far as her physicals are concerned.

Also - no, she doesn't have good showings against bullets, unless you're desperate enough to look for non-canon stuff.

False statement. Diana hasn't been all over the place. She has ALWAYS managed to withstand hits from Superman level beings without being killed, koed, or even significantly damaged. That's way more consistent than that one bullet showing. And rebirth is Canon to WW.

If you are not lowballing then please list a few showings that IS CONSISTENT to the bullet showing. I'll wait.

StiltmanFTW
Many bullet showings, you mean. With none that contradict it.

Cool. Rebirth WW has also been floored by a single bullet.



laughing out loud

What a load of bullshit this is.

"Always", huh? That's why she's been hurt by the physical blows from the likes of Batman and Slade?

h1a8
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Many bullet showings, you mean. With none that contradict it.

Cool. Rebirth WW has also been floored by a single bullet.



laughing out loud

What a load of bullshit this is.

"Always", huh? That's why she's been hurt by the physical blows from the likes of Batman and Slade?

So WW has many bullet showings that have her being damaged by them? Ok, how many of these showings do you know about? Give a number.

Assuming no PIS, post scans (or give issue numbers) of Batman and Slade hurting her with physical strikes.

Now how many times do you know of that WW has withstood blows from Superman level beings (or peers) without being greatly damaged, koed, or killed. Give me an estimated range of the amount of times you think.

StiltmanFTW
Like... every single time she didn't block them with her bracelets or non-standard armor...

https://tinyurl.com/234xtaf2

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/2/26196/3075841-0544848802-30107.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/3/32119/695838-ds24hp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HELr8.jpg

I only imagine you are getting your anus fisted by your students just as you've been fisted on KMC for the last decade and a half.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Booya_69
Really? Based off her physicals? Or is the lasso and sword combo too deadly
She is strong enough to beat him without weapons.

GodofNature
Wonder Woman with ease if armed, and with trouble if unarmed.

Who takes showings seriously where Artemis does better than Diana, or who don't realizes that this StiltmanFTW person is a troll? He even posted a scan from a fight where a blind Wonder Woman has beaten up Martian Manhunter, Flash, Plastic Man and some scrubs, who would together gangbang a not blind Gladiator.

StiltmanFTW
Hello, sock #34.

DarkSaint85
This stiltman, whoever he is, is indeed some kind of sicko troll. I bet he is rubbing one out furiously as I type, over some size 3 patent heels.

StiltmanFTW
Damn, guessed right about that thumb up

Gladiator beats Diana so hard, Nvr makes a vow never to use the Internet ever again.

GodofNature
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This stiltman, whoever he is, is indeed some kind of sicko troll. I bet he is rubbing one out furiously as I type, over some size 3 patent heels.
And i think he might be a fan of getting it in this position:

https://sexpositions.club/positions/34.html

TGATES

abhilegend

deathslash
Diana takes this 7/10.

StiltmanFTW
Takes Gladiator's dick in her ass, 7/10 of its length, you mean?

carver9
@tgates, she is Supes superior and imo she would beat Gladiator as well.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
@tgates, she is Supes superior and imo she would beat Gladiator as well.
laughing out loud

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
@tgates, she is Supes superior and imo she would beat Gladiator as well.

laughing out loud

carver9
So you're amused by the truth?

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
So you're amused by the truth?

We both know you're wrong, but you can keep up this charade if you like. It's funny.

leonidas
c'mon carv....

carver9
Originally posted by leonidas
c'mon carv....

Let me know if you want me to prove it.

leonidas
sure, i'm an open-minded guy. can't wait to be convinced. thumb up

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
Let me know if you want me to prove it.

Do it. I know it'll involve actually reading comics with Superman in them, so take your time.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
Do it. I know it'll involve actually reading comics with Superman in them, so take your time.

laughing out loud laughing out loud

AlbertoJohnAvil
Does Superman have any actual combat feats that puts him above Diana?
Not travel.

Combat. Applicable.

Stoic
If she was Superman's superior, how then was Mongul about to recently break her and Artemis combined? Superman beat him solo, and made it look easy. Sorry Carver but I can't agree with you.

carver9
Originally posted by Stoic
If she was Superman's superior, how then was Mongul about to recently break her and Artemis combined? Superman beat him solo, and made it look easy. Sorry Carver but I can't agree with you.

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111317078/5796815-4727915-justice%2Bleague%2Bof%2Bamerica%2B%282015-%29%2B001-036.jpg

And lol at the people that tried to deny this showing.

One Big Mob
More context?

Because you just showed Wonder Woman getting snatched out of the air and ****ing eaten and Superman blasting through Parasite like CD blasts through his own braincells huffing paint.

carver9
Hello Bran. It's pretty obvious what's going on there. He throws her in his mouth, starts absorbing, mentions her power and Superman saves her. That scan isn't hard to understand, UNLESS, people don't want to intentionally understand it.

One Big Mob
Originally posted by carver9
Hello Bran. It's pretty obvious what's going on there. He throws her in his mouth, starts absorbing, mentions her power and Superman saves her. That scan isn't hard to understand, UNLESS, people don't want to intentionally understand it. And Superman still runs through him even though he starts out stronger than WW and gets more power.

Pretty condemning though. That one statement should beat all the other statements Superman doesn't have of being stronger than every other hero. I wish they respected Superman more in comics.

leonidas
but carv she had the lasso. it seems likely to me that he was also absorbing THAT power, and trying to absorb the power of the lasso, a skyfather level weapon, makes that result unsurprising to say the least. and even if you wanna ignore that, we still have....all the other showings between them and against common enemies that proves this is simply a one-off and shouldn't be taken as anything more than that. /shrug

Philosophía
Just when I want to take a break from this shit, I see a carver post.

Oh well

*unzips*

Originally posted by carver9
Hello Bran. It's pretty obvious what's going on there. He throws her in his mouth, starts absorbing, mentions her power and Superman saves her. That scan isn't hard to understand, UNLESS, people don't want to intentionally understand it. Do I need to pull the lube out again or do you want it raw, you idiot? Parasite used Wonder Woman while she was God of War as a conduit to the Power of Olympus:

https://i.ibb.co/T40XVKf/RCO009.jpg

MrMind
it's almost fascinating he can be such "fan" of gladiator and wonder woman but don't know the first thing about them.

even alberto done better

One Big Mob
Originally posted by leonidas
but carv she had the lasso. it seems likely to me that he was also absorbing THAT power, and trying to absorb the power of the lasso, a skyfather level weapon, makes that result unsurprising to say the least. and even if you wanna ignore that, we still have....all the other showings between them and against common enemies that proves this is simply a one-off and shouldn't be taken as anything more than that. /shrug

The issue is is that iirc this was during WW's big push of her secret bracelet-less God powers and Superman was being written like trash losing a bunch. The intent was obvious but it floudered as it went on. It's like when some new big hot shot rolls in and beats up Hulk and Carver screams for a month(s) straight about Grey Hulks and Bruces and needles and big giant cocks and then Dr Strange annihilates him and that's it. Carver won't accept even with that being all the context, but Carver will use something that was a flop against a Superman 10 powerups ago - Superman who was told more than once he couldn't destroy a planet, a Superman who admitted it actually. Carver used that by the way, so if proof then of Superman's power then current Superman must be eons more powerful no?
And a Superman with comparable or better feats than War God Wonder Woman and a Superman with superior hype too. A Superman who just rammed through Parasite who overpowered Wonder Woman and bridal carried her away.

Under that specific writer at that specific time to that specific Superman I fully believe Wonder Woman's secret power was intended to be above, but how consistent is Carver when Superman's full power in... well any incarnation is released? And how consistent is Carver with Superman GOAT quotes?

I can count on Carver's 9 fingers how many things he wants to count in Superman's favor and he doesn't even need to unclench his fists.

One Big Mob

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Does Superman have any actual combat feats that puts him above Diana?
Not travel.

Combat. Applicable.

carver9
Originally posted by leonidas
but carv she had the lasso. it seems likely to me that he was also absorbing THAT power, and trying to absorb the power of the lasso, a skyfather level weapon, makes that result unsurprising to say the least. and even if you wanna ignore that, we still have....all the other showings between them and against common enemies that proves this is simply a one-off and shouldn't be taken as anything more than that. /shrug

Look at the panel where she is inside of him. You see the energy coming from her, not the lasso. Then he outright said what are YOU. I think this panel is basic.

carver9
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Oh even worse. That's so Carver.

Nothing points to her being weakened. Already know about her being the God of War but she is not weaker.

Booya_69

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Does Superman have any actual combat feats that puts him above Diana?
Not travel.

Combat. Applicable.
laughing out loud

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing points to her being weakened. Already know about her being the God of War but she is not weaker.
Are you retarded?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing points to her being weakened. Already know about her being the God of War but she is not weaker.

laughing out loud

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
And lol at the people that tried to deny this showing.

Originally posted by carver9
Hello Bran. It's pretty obvious what's going on there. He throws her in his mouth, starts absorbing, mentions her power and Superman saves her. That scan isn't hard to understand, UNLESS, people don't want to intentionally understand it.

Being smug only works when you're right. Philo literally posted a scan after that explained your panel away.

Maybe don't make comments about other people "denying showings" when you've been doing it for longer than almost anyone on this site.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you retarded?

Language like that isn't appropriate... yet.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Does Superman have any actual combat feats that puts him above Diana?
Not travel.

Combat. Applicable.

It's generally considered rude to ask questions you already know the answer to. But sure:

Yes. All the fights with villains where Diana would have been knocked out long before Superman wins.

StiltmanFTW
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-Pr-
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