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ROTS Yoda vs Rebels Vader

Yoda 10/10 with difficulty

Originally posted by McP
Yoda 10/10 with difficulty

Yoda, probably.

Yoda won't stomp but he would win.

Yoda should win

Vader. estahuh

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Vader. estahuh



He has better canonical feats.

Originally posted by McP
Yoda 10/10 with difficulty
Yoda struggles to lift large objects in aotc and to redirect the pod Sidious threw at him in rots, whereas Vader lifts an ATST pretty easily during his duel with Kanan and Ezra..

Yoda, not easily but he's not losing

Reasons?

Jensaarai1 summed it perfectly in his Yoda vs. Malek video. Yoda has the power and skill/precision, he just isn't as quick on the draw as others (at least when it comes to the big stuff).

For example in his fight with Palpatine, the Sith Lord was chucking senate pods like they were weightless. Yoda had the power to respond in kind, he just couldn't gather that power quickly enough. He was only able to catch a pod and throw it back because Palpatine got overconfident and eased off the pressure (to Yoda's credit he had to throw the pod up which would have been harder as he had to work against gravity).

The same thin happens in AOTC when Dooku drops that pillar. Given time to gather his energy Yoda could move it easy, but since he didn't he struggled. Vader is less powerful than Yoda but he's able to gather his power more quickly.

That being said Yoda would ultimately prevail.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Jensaarai1 summed it perfectly in his Yoda vs. Malek video. Yoda has the power and skill/precision, he just isn't as quick on the draw as others (at least when it comes to the big stuff).

For example in his fight with Palpatine, the Sith Lord was chucking senate pods like they were weightless. Yoda had the power to respond in kind, he just couldn't gather that power quickly enough. He was only able to catch a pod and throw it back because Palpatine got overconfident and eased off the pressure (to Yoda's credit he had to throw the pod up which would have been harder as he had to work against gravity).

The same thin happens in AOTC when Dooku drops that pillar. Given time to gather his energy Yoda could move it easy, but since he didn't he struggled. Vader is less powerful than Yoda but he's able to gather his power more quickly.

That being said Yoda would ultimately prevail.

Be better than ares, Joker.

Thanks Joker.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Be better than ares, Joker. Vader is getting outmaneuvered and thrown 10 meters by Ahsoka (someone who is well below him in the Force) and you expect him to beat Yoda? Lawl.

Our constant taunting made you, and by all you hold dear, I swear they will unmake you unless you stop this foolishness now.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Vader is getting outmaneuvered and thrown 10 meters by Ahsoka (someone who is well below him in the Force) and you expect him to beat Yoda? Lawl.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Our constant taunting made you, and by all you hold dear, I swear they will unmake you unless you stop this foolishness now. Vader must really be a trashy fighter if far inferior Force wielders are capable of tagging him. What hope would he have against a much faster and much more powerful individual than Ahsoka?

Sids > Green goblin > Talzin >>> everyone else

That's just the way it is. Maybe Snoke and probably Luke will fit in somewhere among the top tiers. Vader will always be Sidious' pet doggy.

Obviously Vader lacks feats compared to Ahsoka pushing a row of battle droids and bringing down a crumbling wall.

Yoda wins

Originally posted by ILS
Sids > Green goblin > Talzin >>> everyone else

That's just the way it is. Maybe Snoke and probably Luke will fit in somewhere among the top tiers. Vader will always be Sidious' pet doggy.

II can live with that, Vader was always a good dog in his bondage outfit for gay ole Sheev

Originally posted by carthage
Obviously Vader lacks feats compared to Ahsoka pushing a row of battle droids and bringing down a crumbling wall.

Yoda wins damn I guess that makes vader look even more pathetic lmfao

If Yoda was so 1337 he should have stopped hiding like a ***** and fought Vader himself. You know, and not killing more Jedi in the process.

Arthiritis tho.

He's a wizard. Wizards don't even get arthritis.

Vader's resume:
Getting force pushed by Kanan and Ezra
Struggling against cyborgs
Struggling against a Grievous wannabe
Getting Force pushed yet again by someone who is "well below" him in the Force
Struggling against a 60 year old
Getting tagged by Luke who had like a month of training
Getting his ass kicked by Luke thoroughly

yeah but he beats yoda fo' sho

Yoda's track record:
Being a little green b!tch

Vader wins.

Yoda's Resume;

Being retarded
Running away
Being pressed by Poopoo
Losing to anyone worth mentioning.

Damn, that's pretty impressive.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Jensaarai1 summed it perfectly in his Yoda vs. Malek video. Yoda has the power and skill/precision, he just isn't as quick on the draw as others (at least when it comes to the big stuff).

For example in his fight with Palpatine, the Sith Lord was chucking senate pods like they were weightless. Yoda had the power to respond in kind, he just couldn't gather that power quickly enough. He was only able to catch a pod and throw it back because Palpatine got overconfident and eased off the pressure (to Yoda's credit he had to throw the pod up which would have been harder as he had to work against gravity).

The same thin happens in AOTC when Dooku drops that pillar. Given time to gather his energy Yoda could move it easy, but since he didn't he struggled. Vader is less powerful than Yoda but he's able to gather his power more quickly.

That being said Yoda would ultimately prevail.

jensarry is just stupid. He's basing on Legends! feats and ignoring most of reference's book and statements. As I remember, he even stated that Plo koon would be closer to Vader in dueling skill then Yoda. That small piece of shit shouldn't be even quoted.

Dooku could lift several pillars, and had full control over it. Was he superior to Yoda in any aspect of TK? Not.
Sidious wasn't his superior either, he just had an advantage, it wasn't neutral ground. Sidious was in the heart of his new Empire and could summon hundreds of clone troopers to help him. He even used his and run tactic, as he tried to run away after Yoda Force pushed him.
When he was throwing pods at Yoda, he was on higher position. That wasresonable, that Yoda tried to evade them instead of catching them - he would have to fights Sidious and gravitation. And at the end, he was able to do even that.
And if we are talking about speed and reflexes - Yoda was more likely the fastest Jedi alive.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Reasons?

Vader was Force pushed by Kanan and Ezra?
Vader was Force pushed by Ahoska?
Vader was unable to take much benefits from his superior TK? He couldn't even break Ahsoka and Ben's guard?
He even couln't take a holocron from Ezra's hand?

Yoda overhelmed Dooku, stalemated Sidious and effortlessly dominated people of Ventress caliber (possibly Ben/Ahoska).

Originally posted by ILS
Yoda's track record:
Being a little green b!tch

Vader wins. They're both bitches in their own right

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
He's a wizard. Wizards don't even get arthritis. Nah he's got a cane, he's old and frail like Maul. Originally posted by |King Joker|
They're both bitches in their own right Vader bends the knee, Yoda is just a savage dick head.

Originally posted by McP
jensarry is just stupid. He's basing on Legends! feats and ignoring most of ref

Vader was Force pushed by Kanan and Ezra?
Vader was Force pushed by Ahoska?
Vader was unable to take much benefits from his superior TK? He couldn't even break Ahsoka and Ben's guard?
He even couln't take a holocron from Ezra's hand?

Yoda overhelmed Dooku, stalemated Sidious and effortlessly dominated people of Ventress caliber (possibly Ben/Ahoska).
Chilled-tier logic

Originally posted by |King Joker|
They're both bitches in their own right
Vader was raped for over a decade. He didn't know any better.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yoda's Resume;

Being retarded
Running away
Being pressed by Poopoo
Losing to anyone worth mentioning.

Damn, that's pretty impressive. http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3453088/force-push-o.gif
http://www.tasteofcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/the-emperor.jpg

Vader solo'd a thousand strong army. Yoda ran away from a few clones. Vader wins.

Originally posted by McP
jensarry is just stupid.

LOL. Jensaarai1 is a genius. His analyses of how vs. matches would most likely turn out are better than anything on this site. He was able to make a Vs. video for Lord Vindican when 99% of people here would have just gone "we don't know enough about him." That shows how brilliant he is.

Originally posted by McP
He's basing on Legends! feats

Legends! continuity is the best.

Originally posted by McP
and ignoring most of reference's book and statements.

Which is as it should be. He goes by the actual FACTS (i.e. what actually happens in the novels/comics etc.). Reference books and statements are mostly honk anyway. Suppose a reference book states that Nightwing is the 2nd best martial artist in DC comics. Does that mean we ignore the numerous times he's been beaten by supposedly lesser fighters? Likewise, so what if some bigshot makes a statement? It's more fun to think for yourself and make your own conclusions.

Originally posted by McP
As I remember, he even stated that Plo koon would be closer to Vader in dueling skill then Yoda. That small piece of shit shouldn't be even quoted.

I'm pretty sure he's never said that. If I'm mistaken then if it was in the "Vader vs. Yoda" video keep in mind he's since apologised for that and admitted he let bias get the best of him.

McP is from Poland so he is instantly right about all stuff SW

He is also instantly poor since we Poles have top tier SW knowledge because of no job and no money

Originally posted by chilled monkey

I'm pretty sure he's never said that. If I'm mistaken then if it was in the "Vader vs. Yoda" video keep in mind he's since apologised for that and admitted he let bias get the best of him.

+Stormtrooper # 1138 In my mind, there is no way Palpatine could get through Kenobi's lightsaber defense. For all intents and purposes, all Palpatine is bringing on is an overwhelming quantity of attacks, which Kenobi has already proven that he can deal with.

His answer for a question: " Could Sidious penetrate Kenobi's master level Soresu defense through lightsaber skills only?"


It seems that he deleted that Yoda vs Vader vid. That doesn't change the fact, that he stated that Vader is Yoda's superior in dueling, while he declared Vader and Plo as more like equals.

He also stated somewhere, that Kenobi's Soresu was designed to deal with adversaries like Yoda, so Kenobi would be his superior in a duel.

Not to mention about THE SMOKE > Zannah, and his and his fellows video about Sidious, +his video "why Yoda isn't great". As I remember, he even stated that Malak would be troublesome enemy for Yoda. If he doesn't wont to be treat as a fool (as versus creator, not as a person), then he should delete at least half of his stupid videos.

Originally posted by McP
+Stormtrooper # 1138 In my mind, there is no way Palpatine could get through Kenobi's lightsaber defense. For all intents and purposes, all Palpatine is bringing on is an overwhelming quantity of attacks, which Kenobi has already proven that he can deal with.

His answer for a question: " Could Sidious penetrate Kenobi's master level Soresu defense through lightsaber skills only?"

Yes and? That sounds right

Originally posted by McP
It seems that he deleted that Yoda vs Vader vid. That doesn't change the fact, that he stated that Vader is Yoda's superior in dueling, while he declared Vader and Plo as more like equals.

So what? Are you claiming that you've never, in your entire life, said something that you later looked back on and realised "yeah that was a dumb thing to say?"

He made a bad call, so what? Everyone does.


Originally posted by McP
He also stated somewhere, that Kenobi's Soresu was designed to deal with adversaries like Yoda, so Kenobi would be his superior in a duel.

Which is correct. Yoda has never faced a primarily defensive opponent so he would have trouble.

Originally posted by McP
Not to mention about THE SMOKE > Zannah, and his and his fellows video about Sidious, +his video "why Yoda isn't great".

The Palpatine video was incredible. It was refreshing to see people who don't mindlessly drool over Palpatine. People who are actually willing to say the simple truth that Palpatine is overhyped and is not the greatest thing in the universe since sliced bread.

And again, he's apologised for his overly negative view on Yoda.

It's ridiculous how people like you only ever look at the negative and ignore all the amazing stuff he's done (i.e. Vindican vs. Luminara).

Originally posted by McP
As I remember, he even stated that Malak would be troublesome enemy for Yoda.

If you actually bothered to watch it that video was incredible!

Originally posted by McP
If he doesn't wont to be treat as a fool (as versus creator, not as a person), then he should delete at least half of his stupid videos.

Rubbish. His videos are awesome. Even the questionable ones are far more entertaining than anything on this board.

Do you ever rest, or is it just fellatio all the time?

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Which is correct. Yoda has never faced a primarily defensive opponent so he would have trouble.

Ever? In 900 years? Sure, that makes sense.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Do you ever rest, or is it just fellatio all the time?

Do you ever post actual, sensible responses or is it just childish insults all the time because you don't have the brains for anything else?

Never mind, I know the answer.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ever? In 900 years? Sure, that makes sense.

Kindly provide some specific examples.

Yoda.

Going by measurable feats and ignoring powerscaling, Vader dominates the senate pod-struggling Yoda, but we all know feats are a really imprecise way to compare opponents.

Going by powerscaling, this isn't really a question. Yoda's utter domination of Ventress and knocking Sidious on his ass >>>>>>> getting Force pushed by Ahsoka.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Kindly provide some specific examples.

Don't be an idiot.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Don't be an idiot.

Look at how slow Yoda is to deflect simple rubble and debris thrown by Dooku. Observe his struggling to lift a pillar. Now look at Vader TK'ing starfighters and tipping over AT-ATs.

Yoda with difficulty.