Punisher vs Ted Kord (h2h)

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cdtm
No weapons, h2h only.

Who wins?

leonidas
i don't give kord much of a chance. he may be more skilled (MAYBE, though i see him more as the acrobat) but i doubt he could deal out enough punishment to put frank down before frank finished him.

Omega Vision
Was Ted Kord much of a fighter? I remember him as a gadget guy.

leonidas
i recall a couple tough fights he was in, but like i said, i always picture him as more an acrobat then a h2h/down and dirty fighter who'd be needed to take out frank.... shrug

cdtm
Hey, he knocked Guy on his arse, and he's pretty beastly himself, thanks to enhancing his body with his ring.. While ringless, took loads of damage from Lobo. Hal only beat him through "rope a dope" strategy.

Martian_mind
Ted isn't taking this. He might get in one or two good shots, but that's about it.

riv6672
As creator of a BB Respect Thread, i have to say...
...Frank 9.5/10z

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by riv6672
As creator of a BB Respect Thread, i have to say...
...Frank 9.5/10z

laughing

Geez. Better than officially closing the thread thumb up

beatboks
Frank takes this. As Leo said Ted's more of an acrobat.
He might be able to dance around frank long enough to extend the fight.
But it ends in his getting badly beaten.

jrodslam
Damn, Teds that bad?

DarkSaint85
Edit:
The more I look into it, Ted accidentally kills Frank.

Here, he wrestles a sword out of Diana's hand:

http://i.imgur.com/kr29QL9.jpg

And was slammed by her into a boulder:

http://i.imgur.com/XAzIE9L.jpg

DarkSaint85
Just found this gem.

http://i.imgur.com/1q3ageL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZqzUEqa.jpg

riv6672
Yeah, those are all in my respect thread.
And i still say Frank wins a huge majority.

cdtm
I remember Kord faced off against Dan Garret, his predecessor who was blatantly super human.

Garret was out for blood. Kord Absorbed quite a few punches, and nearly killed him at one point (Spurred on by the evil entity from the Scarab).

riv6672
Yup. He did. Great fight.

beatboks
Originally posted by cdtm
I remember Kord faced off against Dan Garret, his predecessor who was blatantly super human.

Garret was out for blood. Kord Absorbed quite a few punches, and nearly killed him at one point (Spurred on by the evil entity from the Scarab).

Actually it was a robot recreation of his predecessor. His uncle (the one who's lab exploded killing Dan and making Ted take up his mantle) had a robot in it at the time that made itself look like Dan Garrett Blue beetle to keep Ted off balance while he took him down.

That is if your referring tot the Charlton comics issue that had them fight. I can't recall teh issue number but I have it somewhere.

cdtm
Nah, I'm talking about Beetle's first run in DC. I'm aware of the Charlton stories with the robot, and the other one where Dan Garratt is resurrected and takes back the mantle from Ted, but those aren't canon to DC.

Plus, there's the fact Dan definately dies in an act of self sacrifice, to kill the "evil gods" that were retconned as the Scarab's true nature.

beatboks
Originally posted by cdtm
Nah, I'm talking about Beetle's first run in DC. I'm aware of the Charlton stories with the robot, and the other one where Dan Garratt is resurrected and takes back the mantle from Ted, but those aren't canon to DC.

Plus, there's the fact Dan definately dies in an act of self sacrifice, to kill the "evil gods" that were retconned as the Scarab's true nature.

Fair enough then. Having said that i don't think DC Dan Garrett has the feats that put him at the same level as Charlton Dan Garrett power wise. DC Dan is more mid tier where Charlton one was low high tier.

riv6672
This was the Dan Beetle from the BB story/fight.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Hej2kJoiiiM/VsdQ2EX0-kI/AAAAAAAAEww/FuoZIP7IKDQ/s640/blogger-image--782877316.jpg

I loved the costume tweaks Paris Cullins threw in.

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