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IF one in five women were truly raped in college, then the parents who send them there should be charged with a crime. You're almost guaranteeing that your daughter will be raped.

But, facts are facts and the chances of being raped in college is 10x less likely than if they were in the real world. College is the safest place in America for women.

This is college. What do FACTS have to do with anything?

So what you did is copy/paste the story from this link: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-1-in-5-women-have-not-been-raped-on-college-campuses/article/2551980, and just added a few choice words of your own to it like "regressive left"

How sophomoric, Lp. Do better.

So if you want to start a thread about a topic to create a open discussion about it has to be a personally written thesis?

Makes sense.

Or you know, leave the source material as is. There's always that, Fly. Think.

So him adding some personal thoughts to the article totally invalidated the point of said article?

You're missing the point still. When you need to alter someone else's work to force or push a narrative, well, I think you can figure it out.

The point I am getting is that its still safer to send your daughters to college then it is send them to Canada. There the Rape Stats are 1 in 3.

And typical LIBERAL Progressive response. Belittle the site and the poster and ignore the message.

Hey. I think I got it figured out.

I honestly think the numbers are skewed due to an inconsistent definition of rape. No it is not clearly stated here but it is in the opinions of the general public.


Get the pitchforks and chase the crazy old man from the forum!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Flyattractor
The point I am getting is that its still safer to send your daughters to college then it is send them to Canada. There the Rape Stats are 1 in 3.

And typical LIBERAL Progressive response. Belittle the site and the poster and ignore the message.

Hey. I think I got it figured out. Care to point out where I "belittled" the site and message? I commented on Lp's childish antics; you flipped out. So no, I don't think you do.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
The point I am getting is that its still safer to send your daughters to college then it is send them to Canada. There the Rape Stats are 1 in 3.

LOL wow, these rape stats are so obviously fake, it's disgusting. One in three, my god that is so painfully false.

Originally posted by Robtard
Care to point out where I "belittled" the site and message? I commented on Lp's childish antics; you flipped out. So no, I don't think you do.
I am just very good at seeing your hidden content with in your posts Robbie. And why do you keep calling Peace Keeper LP? WHAT GAME ARE YOU PLAYING NOW!?

Originally posted by Trocity
LOL wow, these rape stats are so obviously fake, it's disgusting. One in three, my god that is so painfully false.

You never seen the Canadian Rape Whistle Commercial??? And I will point out I did get some info wrong. It isn't 1 in 3. ...its 1 in TWO!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Robtard
Or you know, leave the source material as is. There's always that, Fly. Think.
And risk not insulting you? Are you Cray Cray?

Originally posted by Robtard
Care to point out where I "belittled" the site and message? I commented on Lp's childish antics; you flipped out. So no, I don't think you do.
It was childish, but it gave me joy...so I have no regrets.

Would you stop deflecting and just talk topic?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
This is college. What do FACTS have to do with anything?
True.
I never met less intelligent people than in my years of college.

Originally posted by Peace Keeper
And risk not insulting you? Are you Cray Cray?





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Originally posted by Flyattractor


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This is actually true there is no "rape culture" on college campuses. Just like the wage gap. This is why more and more women aren't comfortable identifying as a feminist. Because an alarming amount of so called feminists do spew stuff like this as if it is fact.

One of their favorite tactics is to call you a "men's right activist" if you dare question them. The current wave of feminism is full of a shockingly large amount of BS. Which is unfortunate because there still are issues out there that need to be discussed.

as a male I know a lot of men are predators. I use the term predator deliberately because even when you hear a group of guys bullshitting and talking about woman they jest about them as though they're a product. More times than not its playful humor just like when you hear how woman talk about men. Woman also talk about men, in many ways, as though they're products. However, where men are more predatory, woman are more conniving. I've heard and seen both sexs take advantage of each other.

I still think the benefit of the doubt should be given the woman but there is certainly a double standard in many states that is upheld in cases like these, whether it's for or against a specific sex. Much like parental rights. Most times, parental rights automatically go towards the woman.

After years of sexism I think this is just a residual of that. Much like the western world trying to catch up with our forefathers we have affirmative action. Is it right? No! But it's just a step that has to be taken until society catches up and finally approved with the laws and rights of the times

The thing is, they've also asked men if they've ever assaulted anyone, and have gotten numbers that more or less match up with the 1 in 5 stat.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The thing is, they've also asked men if they've ever assaulted anyone, and have gotten numbers that more or less match up with the 1 in 5 stat.



I do t know what that means? 1 in five assault charges that woman make against men are bullshit? So what about the other 2 and 4 ?

notice how the libs don't attack the content but instead attack the messenger? rape is way lied about. there was a county in texas that could either not prove rape took place or outright proved that allegations were a lie....50% of the time. I witnessed many friends in the military and outside world get lied on. it's pretty common.

And yet the LIBERALS have no prob with countries that make the woman have at least 4 male witnesses to claim rape.

LIBERALS are so funny.

I like how many people in this thread literally can't stop themselves from bringing up liberals/'SJWLolz!!1' every 5 words.

Creepy obsession.

Its cause its fun to see them rape themselves.

Well either way you look at it...it's true that this is a myth. There is no college rape culture.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well either way you look at it...it's true that this is a myth. There is no college rape culture.


Technically there is....I mean have you seen the cost of a tuition nowadays?

Now that's RAPE!!!!!!!

Rape culture in college is real, and denying it is a huge part of the problem.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Rape culture in college is real, and denying it is a huge part of the problem.

There isn't a "rape culture" on college campuses though. This isn't actually a thing. Nobody is saying nobody ever gets raped on campus, but the degree in which some people attempt to portray it as is false, you can find a variety of stuff about it online if you search.

The problem is people acting like there is some rape epidemic. Keep in mind nobody is saying sexual assault should not be taken seriously, but no..there really is no rape culture here.

Rape Culture isn't just about "how many rapes", it's the attitude of blaming or sidelining the victims (usually women) and excusing the behavior of the assailants or would-be assailants (usually male).

The "look at her slutty outfit, she was asking for it" and "it's just guys being guys" type of attitudes.

Originally posted by Robtard
Rape Culture isn't just about "how many rapes", it's the attitude of blaming or sidelining the victims (usually women) and excusing the behavior of the assailants or would-be assailants (usually male).

The "look at her slutty outfit, she was asking for it" and "it's just guys being guys" type of attitudes.

But again, what you just described is not the norm either, it's not something happening at an alarming rate. There is not a large amount of people out there condoning rape as "guys being guys" and all that.

So again, there isn't a rape culture. There is no large percentage of people just brushing off rape, that is a myth.

It's because the rapes in part are dismissed as not being rape. Or just see what Omega Vision posted above again. Really nothing more to say on the matter.

No, it's because there is no rape culture. It is not normal procedure for a girl to go to the authorities and say she was raped and then immediately be called a liar. It just doesn't happen.

We can talk about the consequences of dismissing a rape victims claims for no reason, but there isn't actually a "rape culture".

I am not saying women are always believed, what I am saying is this does not happen in such ASTOUNDING numbers as people try to claim. You see the problem isn't just with people denying it ever happens, but also with people implying it happens way way more often then it truly does. That is my point.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Rape culture in college is real, and denying it is a huge part of the problem.
Originally posted by Robtard
Rape Culture isn't just about "how many rapes", it's the attitude of blaming or sidelining the victims (usually women) and excusing the behavior of the assailants or would-be assailants (usually male).

The "look at her slutty outfit, she was asking for it" and "it's just guys being guys" type of attitudes.


Yes. There is a RAPE Culture in College.

The Prob is that its being PREACHED and INFORCED by the ACTUAL COLLEGES!
The Faculties shoving their views and opinions down the throats of the mush brained pot heads that pay them several thousand dollars to be brain raped by these LIBERAL SOCIALIST PROPAGANDISTS!!

I mean I just find it funny people think that there are a majority of rape cases where the authorities or anyone else just goes "oh lol you shouldn't of dressed so slutty!".

If we didn't take rape that seriously then we wouldn't of had innocent men's lives destroyed by false accusations of rape. Why? Why didn't the kunt from the Rolling Stone article just get called a dumb skank and told to go home? Why was her story allowed to be published without even basic fact checking? Where was this "rape culture" then? And don't act like it's an anomaly, this isn't the only time this shit has happened. Strange how this "rape culture" only kicks in when the woman is apparently telling the truth, but when she's lying it's nowhere to be seen.

We do not need to teach men not to rape, because no one is teaching them to rape.

What we need to teach to everyone, regardless of gender, is that every sexual experience you regret is not rape, and strategies for minimizing your risk of sexual assault are not victim blaming.

Just to put this all into perspective. Recently you had two black college students report they were victims of a "racially motivated" attack by a white woman. They called it a hate crime, but then it turned out they were lying and had actually been the ones to attack. Or the story of the jewish college student who said somebody was drawing swastika's outside her college dorm room. Whoops, it turned out it was her doing it.

This is why it's dangerous to automatically believe anything anyone says. Being a victim is seen as some sort of status symbol now.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
We do not need to teach men not to rape, because no one is teaching them to rape.

What we need to teach to everyone, regardless of gender, is that every sexual experience you regret is not rape, and strategies for minimizing your risk of sexual assault are not victim blaming.
I have to disagree about your first statement. While no one is "teaching" men how to rape, there are longstanding social codes hardwired into our culture that encourage sexually aggressive behavior and the whole "never take no for an answer" mindset.

I've known guys who don't consider having sex with a passed out girl rape as long as you weren't the one who made her pass out (as if opportunism is somehow better than active predation). There are plenty of scumbags on college campuses and society at large, and they absolutely must be told that their behavior isn't acceptable.

As for your second statement, the wording is awful. The way you've worded that statement could absolve rapists as long as they don't regret raping the victim.

As for the victim blaming issue, I'll agree that since there are lots of scummy people, it's probably a good idea to exercise caution, but at the same time we shouldn't ever accept it as a matter of course that because a woman dresses a certain way then it's only natural she might get raped. That's capitulating to the rapists and their skewed values.

But again. there is no real rape culture. Most people know it's NOT okay to bang some chick who is so drunk she is unconscious. There are of course slimeballs that do think it, but it's far from a majority. I have known guys just like the ones you described too and again: they were not the majority though, that is the thing.

If you want to talk about things hardwired into our culture..it's that a majority of men behave that way..that is the narrative some people try to play. That is why there is no actual rape culture.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I have to disagree about your first statement. While no one is "teaching" men how to rape, there are longstanding social codes hardwired into our culture that encourage sexually aggressive behavior and the whole "never take no for an answer" mindset.

And I have to disagree with this assertion for lack of evidence. Please define these codes, establish that they are supported in Western culture, and demonstrate the causal relationship between these codes and sexual violence. This seems like the sort of thing people accept and state as true, but that does not necessarily make it so.




Originally posted by Omega Vision
I've known guys who don't consider having sex with a passed out girl rape as long as you weren't the one who made her pass out (as if opportunism is somehow better than active predation). There are plenty of scumbags on college campuses and society at large, and they absolutely must be told that their behavior isn't acceptable.

And I do not know anyone like this, which makes me credulous if such a person exists. That is why anecdotes are not evidence.




Originally posted by Omega Vision
As for your second statement, the wording is awful. The way you've worded that statement could absolve rapists as long as they don't regret raping the victim.

That regret has nothing to do with whether an experience qualifies as rape is the entire point: a rapist may not regret rape and someone who regrets a sexual experience may not have been raped.




Originally posted by Omega Vision
As for the victim blaming issue, I'll agree that since there are lots of scummy people, it's probably a good idea to exercise caution, but at the same time we shouldn't ever accept it as a matter of course that because a woman dresses a certain way then it's only natural she might get raped. That's capitulating to the rapists and their skewed values.


We should accept as a matter of course that the world is not a safe place, that there is an inherent risk to spaces that we do not control, and that we should be vigilant about our personal safety. No one should expect to be safe outside of their home, and no one has the right to feel safe anywhere.

I have known one or two guys like he described, but again..that's in my entire life and they were douches, they don't represent the norm and that is the problem when people pretend they do. That is the true destruction and harm that is caused...when you make people think something is far worse then it is.

I mean from the way some people talk it's as if they think 1 in 5 fraternity's have the motto of "rape above all else" or something.

Sort of like someone will say "oh it's wrong to hook up with a drunk chick" but then if you ask "what if both people are drunk" they will still say..well it's still up to the GUY to realize they are drunk and shouldn't do it, the girl is innocent. Again, this is some of the trash feminists spout.

"Study" has been debunked over and over again.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE

No one should expect to be safe outside of their home, and no one has the right to feel safe anywhere.

Originally posted by -Pr-
"Study" has been debunked over and over again.

Which study are you referring to? Since the whole "it's a myth" thing hasn't been debunked. So I am assuming that the rape culture being debunked is what you meant. In which case yes I agree with you.

Originally posted by Raisen
notice how the libs don't attack the content but instead attack the messenger? rape is way lied about. there was a county in texas that could either not prove rape took place or outright proved that allegations were a lie....50% of the time. I witnessed many friends in the military and outside world get lied on. it's pretty common.

Anecdotes?

Anecdotes.


So my aunt did the rape kit stuff for 2 years as a nurse in a hospital. She said the vast majority of women who wanted those were not raped with an absurd amount even outright telling her that they were trying to get a man in trouble or get out of trouble (conservative Christian parents my bring down the wrath on them for having sex so they lie and say it was rape). She thinks false rape allegations happen so often that actual rape cases may be very hard to find in the sea of lies. Which is very disturbing. The FBI has done their own investigating and of the cases that finally make it to court, something like 10% are lies/false allegations/not prosecute-able. But that's just the cases that make it that for for the DoJ to run stats against.


So what about police reports? How many men's lives have been damaged or ruined because of the rampant false allegations flying around? What about all the women who were ACTUALLY raped who didn't get a voice because their case was drowned in a sea of false allegations (there is a rape kit backlog in many districts). That's the saddest part...how many woman didn't get to see their rapist captured removed from harming others.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
We do not need to teach men not to rape, because no one is teaching them to rape.

What we need to teach to everyone, regardless of gender, is that every sexual experience you regret is not rape, and strategies for minimizing your risk of sexual assault are not victim blaming.


Very correct statements. But I would say, "Almost no young men are being taught that rape is okay."



And trying to teach young women (and men) how to minimize their risks of sexual assault is NOT victim blaming. That's one piece of shit concept that needs to do a very quick death.

I mean let us be honest men are in a way usually taught the exact opposite right? We are taught it's not right to hit a girl no matter what. That is how it was when I was a kid. We were in essence taught that they could get away with more and be able to do things without the situation escalating to violence where..if it was another guy doing it..it would most definitely lead to violence.

Originally posted by Bardock42

I think that Adam worded that poorly. I do think everyone has the right to be safe from physical harm no matter where they are. Reality is, of course, quite different and anyone with at least two good brain cells to rub together realizes that there's no guarantee of safety no matter where they are. We all have the right to not be robbed yet most of us lock our doors.

I thought the issue of college rape was solved when they came up with that law where guys have to get written permission for the woman before they could sex em up?

I got the feeling that guy's who are against this myth never genuinely get their peckers orally pulled willingly, ever.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I got the feeling that guy's who are against this myth never genuinely get their peckers orally pulled willingly, ever.
I can't get hard if they do it willingly anyway.

Originally posted by -Pr-
"Study" has been debunked over and over again.

Yeah, but it exists, which is sadly enough for some.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I got the feeling that guy's who are against this myth never genuinely get their peckers orally pulled willingly, ever.

So wait, you feel guys who are against a myth that isn't actually true..don't get sex? Wow okay.

Originally posted by The Lost
Yeah, but it exists, which is sadly enough for some.

I know right? It's utterly toxic when people try to present this myth as fact, it's really good some are willing to step up and point out it's not actually a thing.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The thing is, they've also asked men if they've ever assaulted anyone, and have gotten numbers that more or less match up with the 1 in 5 stat.

^ specifically, it's more like 5% of men doing 90+% of the crimes, but if you multiply by the number of assaults they confess to doing (so long as you don't use the word "rape", you get a reasonably congruent figure for the number of victims.

That's super lovely, but it doesn't mean there is a rape culture. It doesn't mean most people just immediately see a rape victim and call her a liar and all that.

Which is the narrative people try to put across with this. So we can agree that narrative is utter bullshit, right? Saying there are a small amount of stupid men who don't view their rapish things as rape..doesn't actually mean there is a rape culture. We are in agreement there, correct?

Originally posted by Surtur
That's super lovely, but it doesn't mean there is a rape culture. It doesn't mean most people just immediately see a rape victim and call her a liar and all that.

Which is the narrative people try to put across with this. So we can agree that narrative is utter bullshit, right? Saying there are a small amount of stupid men who don't view their rapish things as rape..doesn't actually mean there is a rape culture. We are in agreement there, correct?
It's not that they're stupid or even ignorant. The majority of them know it's wrong and don't give a shit.

I do agree the majority of them know exactly what they are doing when it comes to actual rape. They know they are raping her, they don't try to dress it up any other way.

But it's not like you can't walk 5 feet on a college campus without running into a guy like that.

Originally posted by Surtur

I know right? It's utterly toxic when people try to present this myth as fact, it's really good some are willing to step up and point out it's not actually a thing.

It is always better to ask someone what something meant than presenting yourself with a list of assumptions and leaping at one of them.

It prevents misunderstandings, like this one!

Originally posted by The Lost
It is always better to ask someone what something meant than presenting yourself with a list of assumptions and leaping at one of them.

It prevents misunderstandings, like this one!

Surely you didn't mean it's sad people don't buy into the whole "most women are immediately not going to be believed about rape" thing, you seemed more intelligent then that. Especially since it being a myth was never debunked, so it makes no actual sense for you to quote someone in a way where you seem to be thinking they mean it was debunked and you agree.

So I think the assumption of intelligence is a flattering one, right? Though I do apologize for that if I shouldn't of done so.

Just because it's funny:

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I love Lauren Southern. I just love watching crazy people just..do what they do best, be crazy.

Boom shakalaka:

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Please women of the world: watch and learn.

do women come to this forum ?

Originally posted by walshy
do women come to this forum ?

My theory is they are like Elves. You can only see them at 3 am when there is a full moon. At least that is when I always see Elves.

But wait you are female...spread the woooooord!

Yeah a Woman now, but give it 5 minutes and it will change....

Either that or in the next 5 minutes every frat boy within a 10 mile radius will descend upon us..like there is some kind of rape festival about to take place.

But it's okay man because they can easily afford a lawyer because men make more money then women due to the wage gap. So all is well that ends well.

That only happens in Canada.

Friggin Canada.

Oh Canada Blame Canada.

The only people who have a problem with this statistic are potential rapists.

Well that seems like a completely logical thing to say.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well that seems like a completely logical thing to say.

Agreed, let's create a proof for that logic.

A + 1 Rapist = 1 Rapist

1 A Rapist = Rapist

Proven

Ah yes it all makes sense now. You've opened up my eyes.

Originally posted by Bolo Yueng
The only people who have a problem with this statistic are potential rapists.
While I don't think that's true, I have to question the motives of those who are dead set on trying to disprove/dispute the statistics.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
While I don't think that's true, I have to question the motives of those who are dead set on trying to disprove/dispute the statistics.

No, I don't think that's true either; I was looking for a reaction and got one. I agree with you completely.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
While I don't think that's true, I have to question the motives of those who are dead set on trying to disprove/dispute the statistics.
Or they just don't like bullshit like this floating around, unduly influencing campus policy. Some incredibly awful people are using this false statistic to implement 'guilty until proven innocent' policies in colleges and universities. So don't question the skeptics, question the motives of those who are pushing the '1 in 5'(and trying to move on to '1 in 3' now) nonsense.

Yes god forbid people not want stupid bullshit being touted as fact lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
That's super lovely, but it doesn't mean there is a rape culture. It doesn't mean most people just immediately see a rape victim and call her a liar and all that.

Which is the narrative people try to put across with this. So we can agree that narrative is utter bullshit, right? Saying there are a small amount of stupid men who don't view their rapish things as rape..doesn't actually mean there is a rape culture. We are in agreement there, correct?

Have you looked at some of the surveys in question? It's more like one in four men, if that's what you mean by "a small amount".

There is no rape culture. There is no majority of people who deny rape claims and all this shit. We demonize rapists, we put most of them in jail when we have clear evidence they did something. Lives can be ruined by false accusations. People can get in trouble at their jobs, etc. for making a god damn rape joke. So no, there is no rape culture, there is no majority of people just disbelieving women with valid evidence to show they were raped.

There have been a variety of studies that show the rape culture to be bullshit, you are free to look them up if you have the time. But stop with this bullshit narrative that people just don't care about rape.

More men are raped each year then women going by the stats we have. What do you say to that? If you're wondering how that is possible? Two friggin words: prison rape. If you want to talk about culture that doesn't care about rape then men suffer from it more then females. Now before you trot out the cliche excuse of "not all women report their rape" well that goes for men as well so we can nip that in the butt before we even go down that path.

Why does it have to be a majority to be a problem?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Why does it have to be a majority to be a problem?

Because for it to be a friggin "culture" it has to be the damn majority dude. Nobody ever said not believing a rape victim never happens lol. Not one person says this.

What is being said is we as a society do not normally just disbelieve rape victims. If a woman walks battered and bloodied into a police station and says she was raped..odds are the cops aren't going to go "yeah right skank, shouldn't of wore that dress". Odds are they will take her seriously and try to get to the bottom of what happens.

You realize this is how issues just never get resolved right? When a legit issue exists but people blow it way the f*ck out of proportion? Then instead of addressing the issues we spend time having to address the nonsense of it being blown way out of proportion.

I think we're playing games with semantics. Whether nor not it's the predominant "culture", it seems to be a problem.

But that is what the rape culture thing is though man. That is the narrative some feminists try to present. Yes, when a female has legit evidence and isn't believed that is a problem. Or if she isn't believed and the cops don't even try to look into it. But you can't seriously think that happens a majority of the time, right? It doesn't mean it's not a problem when it happens.

Also just out of curiosity this survey you continually cite was..just men on college campuses? Men in general? These men flat out admitted to being actual rapists? Since before you said that they admitted to doing this, but it wasn't called actual "rape". So what does that even mean? For example some people consider pestering a woman for sex until she gives in..is rape.

Originally posted by Surtur
But that is what the rape culture thing is though man. That is the narrative some feminists try to present. Yes, when a female has legit evidence and isn't believed that is a problem. Or if she isn't believed and the cops don't even try to look into it. But you can't seriously think that happens a majority of the time, right? It doesn't mean it's not a problem when it happens.

Also just out of curiosity this survey you continually cite was..just men on college campuses? Men in general? These men flat out admitted to being actual rapists? Since before you said that they admitted to doing this, but it wasn't called actual "rape". So what does that even mean? For example some people consider pestering a woman for sex until she gives in..is rape.
I've seen a study like that, but I'm not sure if it's the same one that The Ellimist is talking about. It considered things like having sex drunk(note that it didn't say anything about the level of intoxication) and BDSM stuff as rape. Basically, the whole point of the study was to demonize men.

That's kind of what I figured, since it's very weird if men are admitting to just out and out being rapists.

Man I wish I could make a topic just dedicated to stupid shit feminists say and do, but it would probably get deleted. So here

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My favorite part is how feminists are now putting out a magazine that is dedicated to "smashing the patriarchy in the food industry". It feels like someone just poured acid onto my brain.

At the same time I love these women. They literally bring me so much joy and entertainment. That shitty Patch Adams movie was correct! Laughing is a super awesome medicine. Granted so is vicodin but..laughter+vicodin is a good combo.

Is it weird part of me wants to date some of these women? Crazy chicks are good in bed. I feel like one could say some really really stupid things to get them into bed too. Like how Aunt Jemima is sexist because why does it always have to be a woman associated with making food?! This f*cking patriarchy is bullshit. I feel like saying that would earn me at least a BJ.

I've heard 1 in 3 guys in college are raped. Seems legit.

Originally posted by Surtur

At the same time I love these women. They literally bring me so much joy and entertainment. That shitty Patch Adams movie was correct! Laughing is a super awesome medicine. Granted so is vicodin but..laughter+vicodin is a good combo.
Agreed.

BTW I also drink a lot of vodka as a medicine, But hey, no surprise here

Also guys what is up with the fact the word MAN is in the word "woman"? What patriarchal bullshit is this? *Somehow moments after posting this 18 feminists give me their phone number*

Originally posted by Surtur
Also guys what is up with the fact the word MAN is in the word "woman"? What patriarchal bullshit is this? *Somehow moments after posting this 18 feminists give me their phone number*
Do you know how offensive is that?

It's just wrong, but not as wrong as patriarchy in the food industry. Feminists should make a stand and give up food.

I can think of one in particular who should...

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Also yes..that fat chick has been christened "Trigglypuff".

Ah yes so more proof of this "rape culture" is here:

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What a disgusting video. This woman lies about being raped. The guy gets 20 years in prison. After 4 years she comes out and admits she lied just so her friends would feel sorry for her. Yet this story makes her seem like a f*cking saint for doing that lol. Like she is this awesome person because she admitted to being a lying kunt and getting an innocent man thrown in prison. They even delve into her shitty childhood..as if that excuses ANYTHING she did. Then they talk about how she found God and blah blah blah. She apparently had to find "God" before she realized it is wrong to lie about rape and get an innocent person put in jail.

The worst part? The guy served 4 years of his 20 year sentence. This woman's punishment? 1-3 years in prison, and they act like we should feel sorry for her because now she has a husband a child. She should of, at minimum, had to serve 4 years in prison. That is what the innocent man ended up serving before she told the truth, so why shouldn't she serve 4 years minimum?

Where is this "rape culture" when you truly need it? Even in the video they say when it comes to the cops and he said she said, more often then not they will believe what she said. Basically saying if you have a vagina that somehow makes your word hold more weight. Keep in mind even the rape kits they did on her came back negative lol. So it was essentially just her teary emotional testimony that put this man away.

Yet people try to shift blame and talk about how badly the court messed up. Which make no mistake they did mess up, but this ultimately comes down to the person who lied about an innocent man and took 4 years of his life away from him..only to get 1-3 years in jail and in the video they act like somehow she is a victim. Even worse some idiots even think she shouldn't of been given anything but probation. It was disturbingly easy for this woman to get this man put into prison.

The only silver living is after her jail sentence is over she might get deported back to the Dominican Republic. Let's hope.

Basically when false rape allegations come to the surface a lot of the feminists just go into "oh she needs help" mode. You see because if a man made up a story about a woman raping him the feminists would immediately just be concerned with the guys mental health and getting him the help he needs.

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This charming young lady faked a home invasion and rape.

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This charming young lady lied about this man raping her, resulting in..among other things, him losing his job. But hey at least she served 35 whole days in prison.

But wait here is the best one lol:

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That is a woman who is essentially criticizing the media for reporting on false rape claims. It should be noted she also spews out the silly "1 in 5" claim about rape.

"'Well publicized false reports of rape can have a chilling effect on real victims of crime who often fear they won't be believed". Wow, so what about the men that automatically aren't believed when it comes to rape accusations? So you see the logic is reporting about false rape claims will make legit rape victims feel they can't come forward because they won't be believed..even though all these claims were at first believed lol. It was when evidence came out that proved otherwise that the women then were not believed. So really all this tells legit rape victims is that they will be immediately believed, since nobody jumped to the immediate conclusion until the case had been looked into more. So if you're not lying then these cases shouldn't deter you.

I mean that Cyndi Amato lady essentially hit all the bullshit feminist talking points. First she cites the 1 and 5 rape figure(which is bogus) and then she follows it up by claiming false rape accusations are rare(also bogus).

I'm shocked she didn't work the "wage gap" in there as well.

Originally posted by Surtur

More men are raped each year then women going by the stats we have. What do you say to that? If you're wondering how that is possible? Two friggin words: prison rape. If you want to talk about culture that doesn't care about rape then men suffer from it more then females. Now before you trot out the cliche excuse of "not all women report their rape" well that goes for men as well so we can nip that in the butt before we even go down that path. Gonna need a source on that boyobo, since as far as I'm aware rape victims are still disproportionately women, even accounting for prison rapes.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Gonna need a source on that boyobo, since as far as I'm aware rape victims are still disproportionately women, even accounting for prison rapes.

"As far as you're aware" ? Okay so..are you like on the cusp of the rape scene? Constantly aware of rape stats? Or what?

The source is a female: Lauren Southern. Feel free to go send her a msg asking for her source. Though of course it'd be a weird stat for a female to make up. But then again as this topic has shown..females DEFINITELY can lie so yeah. But the figure she gave was 100,000-140,000 people.

You see she's all about exposing the hypocritical bullshit of feminists. Like exposing there is no rape culture and all that, I have to wonder if she was giving false info why we haven't seen a bunch of squawking feminists telling us this in order to discredit her. But like I said: females b lying, so it could be a lie. After all if they can lie about rape or hate crimes they could potentially lie about rape stats too.

Just out of curiosity, if you find out the stats she gave are true your reaction would be..what?

Continued evidence that those using "a female " to describe women are raging misogynists.

Lol so describing a woman as a female is misogyny?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Continued evidence that those using "a female " to describe women are raging misogynists.
^ Continued proof that Bardock is an idiot

Continued proof we don't need social justice courses lol. It leads to this utter nonsense.

It's misandry if I refer to a man as a male, right?

Originally posted by Surtur
Continued proof we don't need social justice courses lol. It leads to this utter nonsense.

It's misandry if I refer to a man as a male, right?
Obviously.

Wait .... so the term "male privilidge" is by its very nature offensive, right? It uses "male" right there.

Originally posted by Surtur
Continued proof we don't need social justice courses lol. It leads to this utter nonsense.

It's misandry if I refer to a man as a male, right?

You wouldn't, that's the difference.

I was at the doctor once and he was explaining my case to another doctor and he described me as a "28 yr. old male".

F*ck that doctor. I should of beat the shit out of him. F*cking patriarchy.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You wouldn't, that's the difference.

If I did, it's misandry, right? If a female refers to a man as a male, it's misandry, correct?

Originally posted by Surtur
I was at the doctor once and he was explaining my case to another doctor and he described me as a "28 yr. old male".

F*ck that doctor. I should of beat the shit out of him. F*cking patriarchy.
Your outrage is justified.

Misogyny is a societal structure that not just one thing, and it doesn't equally apply to men, which is why misandry really doesn't exist.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Misogyny is a societal structure that not just one thing, and it doesn't equally apply to men, which is why misandry really doesn't exist.

So is a woman displaying misandry when she calls a man a male yes or no? I'm not asking you to reply with more excuses, this is a yes or no question. It's not complex.

Once again: is a woman displaying misandry if she refers to a man as a male?

No

See that wasn't so hard, was it? Being hypocritical isn't going to actually cause you any physical pain man. You didn't have to spout silly shit about society and all this, just have your hypocrisy be quick and to the point.

It wasn't hard, and I said it twice, you were just, as so often, intellectually incapable of understanding.

It is also not hypocrisy, since, like I said, they are completely different acts, due to the actual context that exists around it, another thing you seem to fail to comprehend consistently.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It wasn't hard, and I said it twice, you were just, as so often, intellectually incapable of understanding.

Actually no, you avoided it. First when I asked if I called a man a male if it was misandry you responded with "but you wouldn't".

Then when I asked again you avoided answering. Saying "misandry doesn't really exist" isn't an answer. Then the third time you answered. So apparently it was difficult.



No man, it's actually hypocrisy. You seem to fail to comprehend that just because you offer up an explanation as to why it's not..it doesn't mean it's actually valid.

So you see as you so often do when someone disagree's with you..you try to insult their intelligence. Which is especially hilarious coming from you of all people. It's like Star ragging on someone for being too religious. But it's okay man, it's what you do consistently and why would you ever be called on it? After all your screen name isn't "T1", he's apparently the only person who can't talk shit to people. It's okay when you do it because reasons.

So we can move on, no point in discussing something you're hypocritical about. So anyways, the rape culture in America. Is this a thing you think is real?

Well, it's good you can read, if you would now also understand what you read that'd be great.

Yeah, I think rape culture, as I have seen it defined, exists. I can't speak to whatever you think rape culture might mean, since it is probably insane and incomprehensible.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, it's gonna of you can read

It's "gonna of you can read" ??? Really? Tell me more!



I understand, I actually just don't agree with you. You get that, right? That not agreeing with someone doesn't mean you don't understand their points?



Ah yes more insults, you do you

It is pretty obvious that you don't understand, which is why you constantly and passionately whine about a social justice strawman you seem to think is true.

Again: disagreeing with your points does not equate to not understanding them. It's not hard to understand, it's just hard to swallow your BS.

You can certainly continue to turn that into "you just don't understand" if you want, but your opinion on this matter isn't actually as complex as you seem to think, it's not hard to get.

Anyways, so back to the topic: lets all talk about this "1 in 5 girls are raped" stat. Or rather, I'll just paste what someone else said about the facts of this study:

"The 1/5 stat includes everything from groping to unwanted kisses or other unwanted advances. Using these same criteria in this study, they also found that 1/7 men had been victims of sexual assault. Basically, this study is a joke. There are a lot of real rape victims out there, but please stop using this crap statistic to incite emotional response for your argument. It is intellectually dishonest."

Alrighty, glad we got that out of the way.

Originally posted by Surtur
Anyways, so back to the topic: lets all talk about this "1 in 5 girls are raped" stat. Or rather, I'll just paste what someone else said about the facts of this study:

"The 1/5 stat includes everything from groping to unwanted kisses or other unwanted advances. Using these same criteria in this study, they also found that 1/7 men had been victims of sexual assault. Basically, this study is a joke. There are a lot of real rape victims out there, but please stop using this crap statistic to incite emotional response for your argument. It is intellectually dishonest."

Alrighty, glad we got that out of the way.
Right to the point

Now consider our president has cited that bullshit study. It's one thing when SJW's and idiotic feminists cite it, but the president?

Originally posted by Surtur
Now consider our president has cited that bullshit study.
Because Obama is full of BS.

Don't kill the messenger

Referring to men/women as male/female is not sexism or proof of some kind of hatred for a given gender. What the hell is the matter with you people?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
What the hell is the matter with you people?

Society.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Referring to men/women as male/female is not sexism or proof of some kind of hatred for a given gender. What the hell is the matter with you people?
I don't think you understood Bardock's enlightened posts on that topic.

Originally posted by Stigma
I don't think you understood Bardock's enlightened posts on that topic.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Misogyny is a societal structure that not just one thing, and it doesn't equally apply to men, which is why misandry really doesn't exist.

I'd be fine with this if people didn't weaponize the term against anyone that pisses them off. People have been doxxed/fired over the perception of being "-ist's".

Heck, I've even seen prominant, well known feminists call other feminist's "anti-feminist" over a simple disagreement about alimony payouts..

Originally posted by cdtm
I'd be fine with this if people didn't weaponize the term against anyone that pisses them off. People have been doxxed/fired over the perception of being "-ist's".

Heck, I've even seen prominant, well known feminists call other feminist's "anti-feminist" over a simple disagreement about alimony payouts..

My other problem is that some people will imply our society is misogynistic and all that, and I'm not saying it doesn't exist at all, but I think we also have examples of the opposite of misogyny in our society. By that I mean not the hatred of women, but the love of them..and the valuing of them and their lives, as more then men.

If you are a female in this country you're more likely to get a more lenient sentence for a crime then a man who committed the same crime would get. In this country when it comes to couples who divorce and have children, etc. we have this silly thing we do where a majority of the time we just assume the kids would be better off with the female.

If a man and a woman get in a physical fight and the cops are called and the man says the woman started it and the woman says the man started it..the woman is more likely to be believed and the man is the likely one who will get taken to prison. It's also been almost cemented in our culture that the lives of women are more important then the lives of men. Think about it, it's always the women and children people tend to think about saving first whenever something bad happens, right?

It's more acceptable for a woman to initiate violence against a men then vice versa. We have battered women's shelters all around our country, but we don't really have ANY places like that for men despite the instances of the females being the abusive ones aren't drastically less then the instances of men abusing women. We live in a society where a woman can say a man raped her and sometimes be immediately believed without any credible evidence. We live in a society where women can admit to falsely accusing people of rape and get little to no jail time for it. We live in a society where some men have actually been arrested for hitting a female despite the fact the women initiated the violence. I am not talking about a situation where two people are alone and it's one persons word against the others. I am talking about dozens of witnesses being around to witness this and the man still gets taken to jail.

In other words: both genders seem to receive "privileges" for shit based on their gender lol. It's not just women treated unfairly. This doesn't mean females don't face issues in this country, it just means they need to be put in perspective.

Also it's just plain not wrong to call a female a female. Or if it is then a man being called a male is wrong too. It is not wrong for one gender and okay for the other.

On another note I've seen PLENTY of "feminists" spewing vitrol about how all men are awful or even about how all men should die. Some of them try to play it off that they were "joking", but of course if a man said he wants all women to die and then just said it was a joke why do I get the feeling the feminists wouldn't accept that?

Also btw f*ck alimony. When two people get divorced they should split up their assets evenly. Then..that should be it. Your spouse is *not* your child, but your spouse. So when you break up then it's up to THEM to pay their own bills. Child support is one thing, grown ass adult support is another.

Originally posted by Surtur
"As far as you're aware" ? Okay so..are you like on the cusp of the rape scene? Constantly aware of rape stats? Or what?

The source is a female: Lauren Southern. Feel free to go send her a msg asking for her source. Though of course it'd be a weird stat for a female to make up. But then again as this topic has shown..females DEFINITELY can lie so yeah. But the figure she gave was 100,000-140,000 people.

You see she's all about exposing the hypocritical bullshit of feminists. Like exposing there is no rape culture and all that, I have to wonder if she was giving false info why we haven't seen a bunch of squawking feminists telling us this in order to discredit her. But like I said: females b lying, so it could be a lie. After all if they can lie about rape or hate crimes they could potentially lie about rape stats too.

Just out of curiosity, if you find out the stats she gave are true your reaction would be..what? Oh okay, so you don't actually have one?

Good to know.

And by "as far as I am aware", I meant "I looked it up and the victims are disproportionately women".

I don't care about whatever dumb ***** on the internet you're latching onto in order to affirm your own biases, nor am I going to go try to prove your own point. If you're too stupid or lazy to do it yourself, don't make the point.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh okay, so you don't actually have one?

Good to know.

And by "as far as I am aware", I meant "I looked it up and the victims are disproportionately women".

I don't care about whatever dumb ***** on the internet you're latching onto in order to affirm your own biases, nor am I going to go try to prove your own point. If you're too stupid or lazy to do it yourself, don't make the point.

I told you my source lol. You asked me for a source and I told you.

Also here is the problem: women are sexually assaulted more. But rape isn't the only thing that falls under the definition of sexual assault.

Originally posted by Surtur
I just told you my source. Your source is a ****ing youtube video that apparently didn't cite her own source, which is to say it's worthless.

So in conclusion: I gave you a source, a woman well known for standing up to the feminists by bringing up various facts and stats. This is not a random youtuber, but hey okay.

Maybe look up who the woman is before dismissing her? Especially when you're going to sit and call others lazy.

Originally posted by Surtur
So in conclusion: I gave you a source, a woman well known for standing up to the feminists by bringing up various facts and stats. This is not a random youtuber, but hey okay.

Maybe look up who the woman is before dismissing her? Especially when you're going to sit and call others lazy. I did look her up. I found a twitter and a youtube account.

You say she brings up facts and statistics? Post those. Post the sources she used and cited that prove what you are saying.

The name of this woman means literally nothing to me, nor does whatever reason you seem to think she is credible. She's not credible unless she cited a source that you can link me.

You say post the things she brings up, but I just did. You asked for a source and I told you the source of the information and who said it. I don't know if she even cites links to what she says? So okay. It's not important enough for me to try to contact her to find out her sources. So like I said she could be lying, that is possible as this thread proves.

Originally posted by Surtur
You say post the things she brings up, but I just did. Uh, no, I asked for you to post credible sources on your claim, but you haven't done that, and I'm pretty convinced you won't at this point.

If you can't or won't provide a credible source supporting your point then don't make it.

Like you would give any site that isn't Full Boar Left Wing Liberal Socialist Propaganda any credence.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Like you would give any site that isn't Full Boar Left Wing Liberal Socialist Propaganda any credence. Sh, be quiet little retard, adults are talking.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Uh, no, I asked for you to post credible sources on your claim, but you haven't done that, and I'm pretty convinced you won't at this point.

If you can't or won't provide a credible source supporting your point then don't make it.

You asked for the source of the stat I gave. I told you who it was. Then I also told you that I don't think she actually cites her sources. Then I also told you it's possible she could be lying.

Personally I don't think she is, but no I don't have any way to conjure up her sources out of thin air when I don't know if she makes them available.

Originally posted by Surtur
You asked for the source of the stat I gave. I told you who it was. Then I also told you that I don't think she actually cites her sources. Then I also told you it's possible she could be lying.

Personally I don't think she is, but no I don't have any way to conjure up her sources out of thin air when I don't know if she makes them available. Then why post things you heard from her as if they were fact?

Because the other shit she said in the same video was fact? Like men make up 80% of suicides and that they make up nearly half the victims of domestic violence.

Originally posted by Surtur
Because the other shit she said in the same video was fact? Like men make up 80% of suicides and that they make up nearly half the victims of domestic violence. The first statistic is well-documented, as is the second IIRC. The other thing? If you have no proof for that shit you probably shouldn't say it.

Right well okay, quick question: is it sexist to refer to a woman as a female?

Neme wrecking Surtur while Stigma tries to cheerlead for Surtur. Entertaining to say the least.

Hypocritical much? I've seen you and Bardock cheerleading each other on more then one occasion. I'm surprised you didn't show up to cheer on his "you're a misogynist because you called a woman a female" line.

Maybe you just didn't see it? It's okay, sometimes bullshit is easy to miss.

Also, say shit that makes sense: Stigma didn't even post during my little exchange with Neme. I mean I get it, you wanted to come in and give Neme a little pat on the back(which somehow isn't as bad as cheerleading) but you still need to make sense.

Originally posted by Surtur
Right well okay, quick question: is it sexist to refer to a woman as a female? No, not in of itself, I think Bardock is insinuating that the context in which you used it or the intent behind using it was misogynistic.

As for why that is, you'd have to ask Bardock.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No, not in of itself, I think Bardock is insinuating that the context in which you used it or the intent behind using it was misogynistic.

As for why that is, you'd have to ask Bardock.

Well..no, unfortunately you are wrong.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Continued evidence that those using "a female " to describe women are raging misogynists.

So this wasn't an "in this specific instance you are being sexist" type of deal, this was some utterly f*cktarded "those using 'a female' to describe women are misogynists". Oh sorry no, RAGING misogynists lol. I want to make sure I get the bullshit 100% correct.

Originally posted by Surtur
Hypocritical much? I've seen you and Bardock cheerleading each other on more then one occasion. I'm surprised you didn't show up to cheer on his "you're a misogynist because you called a woman a female" line.

That's not what I said though. What I said is that it is a good indicator to spot a misogynist. That is, you are not a misogynist because you use language such as "a female" to refer to women, but rather you refer to women as "a female" because you are a misogynist (I understand you may not get the difference, that is the cross one bears when talking to simpletons)

Whether you are a misogynist, which appears self evident to me from talking to you and looking at threads you make, everyone can judge for themselves, I'm sure Stigma is ready to raise his pompoms to spell out "NO" any second now.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Neme wrecking Surtur while Stigma tries to cheerlead for Surtur. Entertaining to say the least.
You get your facts straight.

Noone is wrecking anyone and I was cheerleading Surtur before little retard a.k.a. NemeBro started blabbing.

And the only thing entertaining is that there is no rape culture but some idiots really, really want it to exist. Presumably because they want to join the make-believe rapist cohort.

No, I pretty thoroughly blistered Surtur's booty bloody.

Also, let me say right now that I never said rape culture exists. I frankly find the idea far-fetched.

Furthermore, your mother's a rancid whore and should have killed herself when she found out she was pregnant with you.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's not what I said though. What I said is that it is a good indicator to spot a misogynist. That is, you are not a misogynist because you use language such as "a female" to refer to women, but rather you refer to women as "a female" because you are a misogynist (I understand you may not get the difference, that is the cross one bears when talking to simpletons)

Whether you are a misogynist, which appears self evident to me from talking to you and looking at threads you make, everyone can judge for themselves, I'm sure Stigma is ready to raise his pompoms to spell out "NO" any second now. Why would you say he is a misogynist?