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Legends and Canon, across eras. Who are the top ten Jar'Kai duelists?

This is shady.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXEToflqGs

#1 Ahsoka Tano

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Kas'im
Raktsa Loser
Starkiller
Asajj Ventress

Originally posted by Beniboybling
#1 Ahsoka Tano

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Kas'im
Raktsa Loser
Starkiller
Asajj Ventress

10/10.

In no particular order.

Sidious.
Grievous.
Starkiller.
Ventress.
Ahsoka.
Raskta Lsu.
Kas'im.
Maul.

There are probably others I'm forgetting.

Originally posted by Syndicate
In no particular order.

Grievous.
Starkiller.
Ventress.
Ahsoka.
Raskta Lsu.
Kas'im.

There are probably others I'm forgetting.

Sidious? Maul?

Krayt and Revan, too.

Could even add Luke there too if you wanted. Pong Krell is pretty awesome too.

Originally posted by Aurbere
Sidious? Maul?

Lol. How could I forget Sidious.

Also I don't believe we ever saw Maul use dual sabers outside of the clone that fought Vader.

Lol @ Revan and Krell.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Lol. How could I forget Sidious.

Also I don't believe we ever saw Maul use dual sabers outside of the clone that fought Vader. He fought Sidious with Jar'Kai after Savage's death.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Lol. How could I forget Sidious.

Also I don't believe we ever saw Maul use dual sabers outside of the clone that fought Vader.

Or that time he fought Sidious...

Nah but really, are we talking overall combat effectiveness Joker or sheer mastery over the style?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
He fought Sidious with Jar'Kai after Savage's death.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nah but really, are we talking overall combat effectiveness Joker or sheer mastery over the style? The former.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nah but really, are we talking overall combat effectiveness Joker or sheer mastery over the style?

Would actually like to know this. Also we're limiting it to their effect with the sabers themselves right? Not most powerful characters who utilize jar kai?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
The former.

Does that include their force abilities?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Also we're limiting it to their effect with the sabers themselves right?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Does that include their force abilities? No.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Lol @ Revan and Krell.

When was the last time we saw someone dual-wield double-bladed lightsabers?

I'm assuming it only relates to martial combat.

Originally posted by Aurbere
When was the last time we saw someone dual-wield double-bladed lightsabers?

We have no idea what his capabilities against another force user are like though or what his overall skill level is. :/

Revised.

Sidious.
Grievous.
Starkiller.
Ventress.
Ahsoka.
Raskta Lsu.
Kas'im.
Revan.
Maul.
Pong Krell.

PoD Bane

Is that list ordered or unordered tbh?

Originally posted by Syndicate
We have no idea what his capabilities against another force user are like though or what his overall skill level is. :/

Mastery of lightsaber combat alone is required to effectively use a double-bladed lightsaber. Now think about wielding two of them simultaneously.

Sure that's impressive, but it won't put him above anyone else mentioned in this thread.

Originally posted by Aurbere
Mastery of lightsaber combat alone is required to effectively use a double-bladed lightsaber. Now think about wielding two of them simultaneously.

Being honest with I have no idea how impressive that would be considering his 4 arms and alien physiology. I can't even imagine the differences in mental thought moving 4 limbs rather then one would take.

Did I say he was?

OK well:

#1 Darth Sidious / #2 Exar Kun / #3 Darth Krayt / #5 Darth Maul / #6 Revan / #7 Starkiller / #8 Ahsoka Tano / #9 Asajj Ventress / #10 Kas'im

Honourable Mentions to Obi-Wan Kenobi, Pong Krell, General Grievous, Raskta Lsu and Sora Bulq.

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Darth Sidious
3. Anakin Skywalker
4. Starkiller
5. Ahsoka
6. Darth Maul



Ratska Lsu


Kas'im
























































Bane

What did Exar Kun do with dual blades? Just curious.

Revision III

Sidious.
Grievous.
Exar Kun.
Darth Krayt.
Starkiller.
Sora Bulq/Ventress.
Ahsoka.
Raskta Lsu.
Kas'im.
Revan.
Maul.
Pong Krell.

I remember a Jedi was mentioned in The Jedi Path who wielded 6 lightsabers at a time. I'll need to look into that when I get home. That's pretty sweet in my opinion.

Skrelli or whatever his name was

Dooku insulted him by saying his footwork was shit... Even though the dude didn't have feet... What a dick

Originally posted by Syndicate
Revision III

Sidious.
Grievous.
Exar Kun.
Darth Krayt.
Starkiller.
Sora Bulq/Ventress.
Ahsoka.
Raskta Lsu.
Kas'im.
Revan.
Maul.
Pong Krell.

Luke Skywalker duel wields lightsabers in The Unifying Force.

If this is supposed to be ordered, most of the list should be above Grievous, and Maul should obviously be higher.

Learn to read Ellimist. This is a randomly ordered list.

Revision IV: A New List.


Luke.
Sidious.
Grievous.
Exar Kun.
Darth Krayt.
Starkiller.
Sora Bulq/Ventress.
Ahsoka.
Raskta Lsu.
Kas'im.
Revan.
Maul.
Pong Krell.

Have you been banned from CV yet?

Nope. I think JediX was just flaunting his authority.

Aight kewl. Really wanna see how your debate with Muser ends

In no particular order: Sheev, Krayt, Kun, Kas'im, Ahsoka, Maul, Luke, Starkiller, Grievous, and Raskta

Only going for people who specialize in Jar'Kai... (Obviously guys like Luke and Kenobi could also qualify.)

Sidious
Maul
Revan
Krayt
Kun

Maul and Kun and Sidious SPECIALIZE in it? Also when has Revan ever wielded dual blades?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Skrelli or whatever his name was

Dooku insulted him by saying his footwork was shit... Even though the dude didn't have feet... What a dick

Then again, Dooku's extremely racist so I'm not too surprised.

In no particular order

Sidious
Ahsoka
Galen/Starkiller
Ventress
Grevious
Maul
Krayt
Kun

Originally posted by Syndicate
Maul and Kun and Sidious SPECIALIZE in it? Also when has Revan ever wielded dual blades?

Sidious is a master of every form of saber combat so make of that what you will.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
In no particular order

Sidious
Ahsoka
Galen/Starkiller
Ventress
Grevious
Maul
Krayt
Kun
What about two more people to fill your list with ten?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Maul

Stated in Darth Plagueis and numerous other sources.



Uh, duh?



Stated in TCW interviews.



During his reign as the Dark Lord, and during Shadow of Revan.

I suppose I should clarify; the reborn Revan generally tends to roll with one lightsaber, but his darker side always wielded two.

Can I get your quotes for Maul?

Also what do you mean "duh" for Exar? He's shown wielding two but not to the point where it's his main choice to go into combat with especially not in his prime that I know of.

Would like the quote for that as well.

Proof for this?

It's not that I don't believe you it's simply that I was unaware that all of the guys you mentioned mainly used dual sabers.

Pong Krell
Grievous

Originally posted by Emperordmb
What about two more people to fill your list with ten?

Kas'im
Maybe Krell.

@NewGuy

Ok but how does that quote mean dual blades is what Maul primarily wields?

But it can be used with a saberstaff as we've seen Maul do. So why would him using the Jar Kai technique make it his primary form?

That's fine. Post them when you have them.

Can I get the shots for this?

Maul specialized in the use of a saber staff, that's why he used it in TPM. He showed in TCW he can use jar'kai but that's not his primary mode of fighting.

He was using a staff when Plagueis made the comment too. Jar'Kai is seemingly involved with some styles of staff-wielding as well as dual-wielding.

Wait, so Jar Kai isn't purely dual wielding?

The face when one inconsistency can override everything before and after it.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f6/bb/6d/f6bb6dfe143697663ba32eee62e5e9ca.jpg

Yeah, that's definitely it.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
During his reign as the Dark Lord, and during Shadow of Revan.

I suppose I should clarify; the reborn Revan generally tends to roll with one lightsaber, but his darker side always wielded two.

Virtually all official art shows Darth Revan wielding a single saber, plus even the cutscene in KotOR 1. Seems a stretch to assume he dual wielded as a Dark Lord based on an illusion in KotOR 2 which more than likely represents the duality of the character rather than anything "factual".

Had a similar point of view before, but Shadow of Revan seems to lend credence to the scene.

Two sabers is how you git gud, and evil Revan wants to, ironically, be as gud as possible.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Wait, so Jar Kai isn't purely dual wielding?


It's wielding dual blades, whether they're attached as a staff or wielded as two separate weapons.


Also I think people are under rating Kenobi given one of his very top performances (if not top) was while wielding Jar Kai.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Had a similar point of view before, but Shadow of Revan seems to lend credence to the scene. SOR was probably just attempting to convey the same thing.

At the very least its probably not his favoured fighting style.Originally posted by Darth Thor
Also I think people are under rating Kenobi given one of his very top performances (if not top) was while wielding Jar Kai. According to Filoni he was extremely focused though.

Kao Cen Darach, Aryn Leener and Revan should be up there.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It's wielding dual blades, whether they're attached as a staff or wielded as two separate weapons.


Also I think people are under rating Kenobi given one of his very top performances (if not top) was while wielding Jar Kai.
I think this one is specialized in. OBI wan didn't really specialize in jar'kai.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
SOR was probably just attempting to convey the same thing.

At the very least its probably not his favoured fighting style. According to Filoni he was extremely focused though.


According to Filoni he was also displaying his high level of Saber skill.


Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I think this one is specialized in. OBI wan didn't really specialize in jar'kai.


Doesn't matter if he was outclassing fors who do specialise in Jar Kai.

Ah so Jar Kai included saberstaffs. Gotcha.

Revision V

Sidious.
Grievous.
Exar Kun.
Darth Krayt.
Starkiller.
Maul.
Sora Bulq/Ventress.
Ahsoka.
Raskta Lsu.
Kas'im.
Pong Krell.