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Round 1: Who's the weakest EU/Legends Force user needed to defeat Composite movies-only Force user?

1a. Sabers

1b. Force

1c. All-out

Round 2: Weakest needed to beat Composite Canon Force user?

2a. Sabers

2b. Force

2c. All-out

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Almost anyone tbh. You just need someone with a "moves like a blur" quote.

Originally posted by razminr11
Round 1: Who's the weakest EU/Legends Force user needed to defeat Composite movies-only Force user?

1a. Sabers

1b. Force

1c. All-out

Round 2: Weakest needed to beat Composite Canon Force user?

2a. Sabers

2b. Force

2c. All-out
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
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But it's composite, so what the hell is the purpose of this thread?

I probably wasn't very clear in the OP. What I meant was that if you take every feat displayed in either just the movies, or in all of canon (movies, TV shows, books/comics, etc.), and apply that all to a single (non-specific) Force user, which single character, using only their EU feats would be needed to beat said Force user.

The movies/canon Force user (obviously) doesn't get any EU feats, while the EU character is limited solely to what they've shown in non-Canon material.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
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It's actually not that difficult to understand.

We are talking a specific character here? Or....

Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's actually not that difficult to understand. Provide a response then lmao.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's actually not that difficult to understand.
Pick a random character and another random character, seperate them into continuities, then compare these continuities, than choose one to get only one continuity, then both continuities, while fighting another continuity, and, what?

Err wait. I think he means what is the weakest EU character who can beat essentially a made up character possessing every Canon feat in the movies, and secondly possessing every Canon feat ever. Right?

That sounds about right, but given we have no idea who this hypothetical character is, it's hard to pick a benchmark. If we're just randomly picking characters, I'm wondering why this is in the vs section and not in raz's head where this thread belongs.

Lol

Now I'm confused. I honestly thought my last post explained things well enough, but I might as well try again.

Take every feat shown in either just the movies, or all of canon. Use those to then create a composite movies/canon Force user. As in, a single Force user that has every ability, every feat, every ounce of power, and every single skill shown by any and every Force-wielding character in the aforementioned continuities (movies-only, and all of canon).

After all of that, find one single character in the EU that could, using only that character's EU-specific feats, beat the previously outlined composite Force user.

The composite Force user is a Force user with every feat ever displayed by every Force using character in either the movies, for Round 1, or all of canon (movies, TV shows, etc.) for Round 2. The EU Force user is any single specific character from the EU that can use only what we've seen from them in non-canon material.

It's not so much randomly picking characters, as seeing who's the weakest in the EU that can take on a composite movies/canon Force user. Though now that I think about it, a better thread might have been "Weakest EU character that can defeat the strongest canon character?", but hindsight is 20/20 I suppose.

Maybe I'm just terrible at explaining things, but I feel like this should be enough to understand my intentions with this thread.

That's legit retarded. No one. The Ones are in Canon. I guess maybe the Bedlam Spirits. This is an an hero worthy thread.

Just noticed you changed your username.

In either case, anyone who's been described as fighting like a blur or whatever crushes the slow-ass movie character, who would have Qui Gon/Obi Wan's Force speed but not the dueling velocity.

^ that's if it's just using the movies. Using canon, the Ones are kinda unbeatable, unless if you take Bedlam Spirits = omnipotent seriously.

Forgot about the Ones. Exclude them, and any characters on a similar level of power. Figured that would be obvious, but apparently not.

failure thread

Originally posted by razminr11
Forgot about the Ones. Exclude them, and any characters on a similar level of power. Figured that would be obvious, but apparently not. As a rule of thumb--if you think something will be obvious to the people on KMC, it probably won't be.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
As a rule of thumb--if you think something will be obvious to the people on KMC, it probably won't be.

Dat burn

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Anyhow serious answer: Even in canon only Sidious retains most of his feats and scaling so I'd say GM Luke.

Canon Sidious has a smaller gap to scale over canon Vader, who isn't as strong as his legends version. Plus no DE.

I give you DE, but RotS Sidious roflstomps Maul. And Ahsoka, who is a Maul level opponent, gives a good fight to Vader. So I disagree there.

Yeah, but that's canon Maul you're talking about. It doesn't translate to Legends.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Yeah, but that's canon Maul you're talking about. It doesn't translate to Legends.

Even in Canon, Maul was superior to a duo of a council level master and a knight, he ragdolled TCW Kenobi, and his older version is superior to Rebels Ahsoka, who gave Vader a fight. He also had Canon Windu tier TK feat.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I give you DE, but RotS Sidious roflstomps Maul. And Ahsoka, who is a Maul level opponent, gives a good fight to Vader. So I disagree there.
Ahsoka would probably give Sidious a "good fight" to. TCW and Rebels are anything but consistent, and she's Filoni's pet. Not to mention, by his own words, Maul is inferior to Vader.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Ahsoka would probably give Sidious a "good fight" to.

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