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Fight takes place in outer space.

The Son wins.

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Problem?

Was going to say Emperor godstomps as is par for the course against SW characters

I wouldn't necessarily count on that, here.

Kek GEoM.

Honestly, the Son.

Which ounce of logic even suggests there exists a parity, the Son and the Daughter 'threaten' the galaxy if released from Mortis. Which is absolutely miniscule compared to what the near-death God Emperor deals with daily, his psychic power has the mere side effect of incinerating ships over light years.

His blows can level planets and his psychic attack hit Horus with the power of an exploding sun and didn't simply destroy his body but annihilate his spirit, an attack that threatened to obliterate four multiversal Gods.

Good, I've drawn you out, as planned. I'll systematically terminate you and your GEoM wank after school.

The power of an exploding sun is a threat to multiversal gods?

Interesting..

They're not Multiversal. At least, not in any relevant way.

It seems that way. I've seen some GEOM feats, and he is a beast, as are the Chaos Gods. But they also appear to be wildly overrated the majority of the time.

I guess Star Wars characters are too, though.

It was a physical contest where all the power of said Gods was stored in Horus' body, they abandoned his body in the last second otherwise their power would have been destroyed with it and would have left them severely damaged.

The God Emperor's mental prowess is such that in a near death state he is capable of maintaining a psychic barrier that saves the galaxy from being utterly annihilated in ways too horrific to imagine by the warp.

The Chaos Gods themselves destroy and create entire universes within the infinite warp on a whim every second, literal universes.

The God Emperor is still capable of outmatching them.

Provide evidence of the Chaos Gods literally creating universes.

Note this is in the context of describing the powers of the Chaos Gods, who for all intents and purposes are the literal and unliteral manifestations of the warp, which is an entire plane of paradoxical existence, fueled by every single emotion ever felt.

Understood, but that seems massively contradictory to the actual feats displayed by the GEoM himself. I'd like to think their powers are nowhere near as potent in the tangible world as in the warp, even if they're trying to affect the tangible world from the warp.

His feats must be taken into context, for example when fighting Horus he was under the illusion that he might save his son, so he wasn't even really trying to fight back. Horus himself has blows powerful enough to level planets, but is further amped by the full powers of the Gods, so the Emperor was letting Horus beat him nearly to death. The Emperor lost an eye and body parts, yet the guy easily one shots Horus when he realises he was beyond salvation.

Then in a near death state, the Emperor's mind flows through the Astronomicon, stopping the powers of those Gods from entering the galaxy.

Everything he has done is low tier for him, the only time we see the Emperor going legit all-out is when he kills Horus. This is a humble God, who doesn't even want to be called a God, he is conservative with his powers because not doing so would be entirely counterproductive to building a galaxy spanning empire.

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I would say the son..

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The emperor snuffs out this filthy xenos heretic with but the snap of his fingers.

Originally posted by deathslash
The emperor snuffs out this filthy xenos heretic with but the snap of his fingers.

The text to speech device emperor :
Remember how I look upon the over use of that terminology.

Originally posted by AncientPower
His feats must be taken into context, for example when fighting Horus he was under the illusion that he might save his son, so he wasn't even really trying to fight back. Horus himself has blows powerful enough to level planets, but is further amped by the full powers of the Gods, so the Emperor was letting Horus beat him nearly to death. The Emperor lost an eye and body parts, yet the guy easily one shots Horus when he realises he was beyond salvation.

Then in a near death state, the Emperor's mind flows through the Astronomicon, stopping the powers of those Gods from entering the galaxy.

Everything he has done is low tier for him, the only time we see the Emperor going legit all-out is when he kills Horus. This is a humble God, who doesn't even want to be called a God, he is conservative with his powers because not doing so would be entirely counterproductive to building a galaxy spanning empire.

Well, as I mentioned earlier, everything piles up into one, heaping contradiction. Observe:

Originally posted by AncientPower
His blows can level planets and his psychic attack hit Horus with the power of an exploding sun and didn't simply destroy his body but annihilate his spirit, an attack that threatened to obliterate four multiversal Gods.

Originally posted by AncientPower
It was a physical contest where all the power of said Gods was stored in Horus' body, they abandoned his body in the last second otherwise their power would have been destroyed with it and would have left them severely damaged..

You see, if the Chaos Gods were at full power, and assuming their full power was multiversal, there is absolutely no way the power of an exploding sun would threaten to annihilate them in any capacity. In fact, it wouldn't even phase them to any extent. It'd literally be like a grain of sand in the universe. That it threatens to destroy their supposed full power means 1 of 2 things:

1. The Chaos Gods aren't anywhere near as powerful in the mortal realm, therefore making GEoM less impressive than he's being made out to be.

2. The quote implying that the Chaos Gods are multiversal is flawed, making the Chaos Gods, and by extension the GEoM, less impressive than they're made out to be.

I mean, GEoM actually being multiversal doesn't even begin to make sense when you take a look at the setting itself, (the GEoM, "can't even manufacture ships that leave the galaxy in a timely fashion," according to User Nemebro, he was initially strangled by a large ork, he gets nearly killed by a star-eating space dragon that was starving/hadn't replenished its strength, etc).

From what I can tell, based on the consistent showings and implications surrounding the GEoM, he's a solar system buster at best.

There's nothing contradictory about it. Slaanesh's berthing cries destroyed a lage chunk of the galaxy, nearly wiped out a race of aliens that numbered in the hundreds of trillions, and left a giant tear in the very fabric of time and space that altered the planets closest to it in a very severe way (literally twisting most of the animals and plants on these planets until they closely resembled the daemons that could be found in the warp). These same gods have also given pieces of their power to mortals to both make them stronger, smarter, faster and immortal (usually in a way that warps reality itself).

...How does any of that even remotely imply that the Chaos Gods are multiversal omnipotents?

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The psychic attack that hits Horus has the equivalent of the power of an exploding sun. Horus harnessed their power when he dealt the Emperor a crippling blow and thus that power was tangible for the Emperor to use his psyker powwr to destroy.

What you aren't understanding is that this is a battle on the psychic level, henceHorus' spirit being annihilated, not just his body.

Yes, but it's pretty clear that neither the Chaos Gods nor the GEoM, (unrestrained, according to you) showed anything remotely resembling even galactic-scale destruction. It literally contradicts all of the GEoM's showings, even the supposedly unrestrained ones.

Begin to enjoy both side.. You need to understand warhammer 40..
While many joke in TTS are made to be understand by the veterans, TTS is good introduction to the emperor.
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Warp entity are all powerfull and omnipotent within the void, but there is some parts of the warp that reflect the reality within the materium... Those parts of the warp ar not multi-versal, they are universal. There is one prt like this for every materium existing...
Anyway if you kill a warp entity that is not the emperor, another will born..
For instance Malal is born out of hate of the chaos gods, it is the dark side of the empror thinking, he is the most chaotics of all chaos gods, and also the most ****ed-up, he want to eradicate all otehr chaos gods, he is chaos gods of chaos random and disbelief, mostly disbelief...

Tzeench could do that, galactic scale destruction is within his reach, if a chaos god can ****-up directly the materium more than ay other it is tzeench, but tzeench hate direct methode, and it is also contraire to his dogme to do such thing, but we have seen some little shiny artefacts causing the end time within the fantasy universe, so I kinda think that tzeench is fairly cappble of doing such things.
But actually within the warp they perform multi-verse feat of destruction in order to conquer the ever growing space and time coming within the warp..
But their power are limited within the materium..

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yes, but it's pretty clear that neither the Chaos Gods nor the GEoM, (unrestrained, according to you) showed anything remotely resembling even galactic-scale destruction. It literally contradicts all of the GEoM's showings, even the supposedly unrestrained ones. nothing on a galactic scale? Really? When Slaanesh was a baby, he/she destroyed a portion of the galaxy. By the way, slaanesh was born in the warp, and his/her birth warped reality itself.

I meant in the confines of the Horus vs GEoM instance. Furthermore, elaborate on how big, "a portion of the Galaxy" is.

Cool. To a universal extent? Galactic extent? Less?

@Revanchiste: thanks for the clarification. I figured they weren't nearly as powerful in the materium as in the warp.

Begin to enjoy both side.. You need to understand warhammer 40..
While many joke in TTS are made to be understand by the veterans, TTS is good introduction to the emperor.
+ Emprah beat one billion super-man XDXDXDXD, on of the most O.P comic book heroes of all times.. A COMIC BOOK HIGH TIER PIECE OF SHIT ! COMIC BOOK FROM MARVEL AND DC UNIVERSE !!!

Warp entity are all powerfull and omnipotent within the void, but there is some parts of the warp that reflect the reality within the materium... Those parts of the warp ar not multi-versal, they are universal. There is one prt like this for every materium existing...
Anyway if you kill a warp entity that is not the emperor, another will born..
For instance Malal is born out of hate of the chaos gods, it is the dark side of the empror thinking, he is the most chaotics of all chaos gods, and also the most ****ed-up, he want to eradicate all otehr chaos gods, he is chaos gods of chaos random and disbelief, mostly disbelief...

Tzeench could do that, galactic scale destruction is within his reach, if a chaos god can ****-up directly the materium more than ay other it is tzeench, but tzeench hate direct methode, and it is also contraire to his dogme to do such thing, but we have seen some little shiny artefacts causing the end time within the fantasy universe, so I kinda think that tzeench is fairly cappble of doing such things.
But actually within the warp they perform multi-verse feat of destruction in order to conquer the ever growing space and time coming within the warp..
But their power are limited within the materium..

Last edited by Revanchiste on Today at 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by Revanchiste
Begin to enjoy both side.. You need to understand warhammer 40..
While many joke in TTS are made to be understand by the veterans, TTS is good introduction to the emperor.
+ Emprah beat one billion super-man XDXDXDXD, on of the most O.P comic book heroes of all times.. A COMIC BOOK HIGH TIER PIECE OF SHIT ! COMIC BOOK FROM MARVEL AND DC UNIVERSE !!!

Warp entity are all powerfull and omnipotent within the void, but there is some parts of the warp that reflect the reality within the materium... Those parts of the warp ar not multi-versal, they are universal. There is one prt like this for every materium existing...
Anyway if you kill a warp entity that is not the emperor, another will born..
For instance Malal is born out of hate of the chaos gods, it is the dark side of the empror thinking, he is the most chaotics of all chaos gods, and also the most ****ed-up, he want to eradicate all otehr chaos gods, he is chaos gods of chaos random and disbelief, mostly disbelief...

Tzeench could do that, galactic scale destruction is within his reach, if a chaos god can ****-up directly the materium more than ay other it is tzeench, but tzeench hate direct methode, and it is also contraire to his dogme to do such thing, but we have seen some little shiny artefacts causing the end time within the fantasy universe, so I kinda think that tzeench is fairly cappble of doing such things.
But actually within the warp they perform multi-verse feat of destruction in order to conquer the ever growing space and time coming within the warp..
But their power are limited within the materium..

Last edited by Revanchiste on Today at 01:16 AM
Stop trying to English already and just use Google Translate.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I meant in the confines of the Horus vs GEoM instance. Furthermore, elaborate on how big, "a portion of the Galaxy" is.

Cool. To a universal extent? Galactic extent? Less?

@Revanchiste: thanks for the clarification. I figured they weren't nearly as powerful in the materium as in the warp.

His psyker power is on a universal level, as is the Chaos Gods'. Physically his sword hits and punches can level planets, as can those of his son Horus.

The GEoM is technically a 'Chaos God' himself, because the Chaos Gods are merely the four greatest manifestations of the warp. The warp itself is a plane of existence fueled by every dark emotion, bad dream, every death, every time somebody in the Imperium gets laid Slaanesh is more powerful for it.

Their power manifests as psychic 'psyker' energy, the God Emperor is the antithesis of this, because instead of emotion his powers are fueled by worship, trillions of beings worship him every minute. Thousands are sacrificed constantly to fuel his power on Terra.

One of the lesser known feats of the God Emperor is a warp storm he created that renders an entire portion of the galaxy twisted out of reality. Again the God Emperor is always holding back.

Originally posted by AncientPower
His psyker power is on a universal level, as is the Chaos Gods'. Physically his sword hits and punches can level planets, as can those of his son Horus.

I understand the assertion, but for example, could he tear apart the fabric of the entire universe with his psyker power, or simply influence beings with his psyker power on a universal scale?

Originally posted by AncientPower
The GEoM is technically a 'Chaos God' himself, because the Chaos Gods are merely the four greatest manifestations of the warp. The warp itself is a plane of existence fueled by every dark emotion, bad dream, every death, every time somebody in the Imperium gets laid Slaanesh is more powerful for it.

Their power manifests as psychic 'psyker' energy, the God Emperor is the antithesis of this, because instead of emotion his powers are fueled by worship, trillions of beings worship him every minute. Thousands are sacrificed constantly to fuel his power on Terra.

Understood.

Originally posted by AncientPower
One of the lesser known feats of the God Emperor is a warp storm he created that renders an entire portion of the galaxy twisted out of reality. Again the God Emperor is always holding back.

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A solar system at best, really. Which I doubt is even above the Son's inferiors, the Celestials. And what makes you think the God Emperor won't hold back here?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I meant in the confines of the Horus vs GEoM instance. Furthermore, elaborate on how big, "a portion of the Galaxy" is.

Cool. To a universal extent? Galactic extent? Less?

@Revanchiste: thanks for the clarification. I figured they weren't nearly as powerful in the materium as in the warp. it's been stated to be nearly twenty thousand lightyears in width.

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