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Darth Malgus in his prime vs. ROTJ Luke, who wins?

Physicality: Malgus

Self explanatory.

Force Abilities: Malgus

Luke may have been extremely powerful, but his full potential had barely been realized at that point and his study of the Force wasn't on how to use it combatively. And well Malugs.....yeah

Sabers: Malgus

Luke's rough around the edges application of Form 5 just ins't enough.

Overall, Malgus just outclasses Luke so far.

Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Physicality: Malgus

Self explanatory.

Force Abilities: Malgus

Luke may have been extremely powerful, but his full potential had barely been realized at that point and his study of the Force wasn't on how to use it combatively. And well Malugs.....yeah

Sabers: Malgus

Luke's rough around the edges application of Form 5 just ins't enough.

Overall, Malgus just outclasses Luke so far. probably not tbh

Luke was a match for Vader, how does Malgus compare?

Originally posted by Rebel95
Luke was a match for Vader, how does Malgus compare? not very well

Yeah, Luke wins.

Luke wins

Originally posted by ILS
not very well

Malgus. Luke's not truly ready for a fight like this.

Like he wasn't ready to face Vader.

Luke fought a hindered Vader. This is evident by Vader's different movesets during ESB and ROTJ. Vader was holding back as he was conflicted, something Luke even points out.

Malgus solidly. He outclass' Luke in every way, however slight many of them are

Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Luke fought a hindered Vader. This is evident by Vader's different movesets during ESB and ROTJ. Vader was holding back as he was conflicted, something Luke even points out. Besides the point considering Vader is well above Malgus in every respect.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Like he wasn't ready to face Vader.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
outclass'

lol

Luke matching Vader in strength means that Malgus' own strength will be of no threat to him, and he's just plainly more skilled. Malgus's displays of the Force are more destructive but may not be enough for him to win this.

Also, play the experience card all you want. Fightsaber claims that the only reason Vader was able to duel Luke on even footing is because of his vastly greater experience in dueling, and he's more skilled than Malgus as well.

Originally posted by SunRazer
and he's just plainly more skilled.

Did we... watch the same movie? I believe Nebaris once coined the term "Boo Radley with a baseball bat". Luke is NOT more skilled than the guy who was owning Jedi Battlemasters 45 years from his prime.

"It was 80's choreography" isn't an argument. Luke being a match for Vader is, a fact supported by the script and every single tie-in to RotJ, as well as other sources. You can't deny it.

The idea that he's "plainly more skilled" isn't an argument. He "plainly" flails around like a retarded moth next to a bonfire. Malgus "plainly" makes him look like a crippled ice-skater in comparison. Luke fighting Vader doesn't mean he's as skilled as him. Luke's technique comes from just copying what he saw of Vader's moves, "skill" is not his strong point. He's ridiculously less skilled than Malgus' supposedly perfect technique.

Kind of sad when Malgus still dies, when you really think about it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The idea that he's "plainly more skilled" isn't an argument. He "plainly" flails around like a retarded moth next to a bonfire. Malgus "plainly" makes him look like a crippled ice-skater in comparison. Luke fighting Vader doesn't mean he's as skilled as him. Luke's technique comes from just copying what he saw of Vader's moves, "skill" is not his strong point. He's ridiculously less skilled than Malgus' supposedly perfect technique. Christ.

Forgive my typos, I sent that from my phone. Can't edit it, either - not that I'd want to, considering the nightmare it was to post it.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Kind of sad when Malgus still dies, when you really think about it.
His loss to a Strike Team is now a mark against him?

Darth Malgus have advantage in the domain of Force powers, if not dueling skills. I would expect him to defeat Luke Skywalker (ROTJ).

We have to consider Malgus has lightning, which Luke has never faced.

If Luke manages to defend against it:


Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Kind of sad when Malgus still dies, when you really think about it.

tbh.

This is hilarious. Vader was hindered, he was mentally conflicted about whether to actually fight his son to the death or find a way to team up with him to kill the emperor, however, his distracting, indecisive, and destructive thoughts were his downfall as he was unable to finish the fight before resorting to pushing Luke's buttons too hard. Fighting on par with a hindered Vader that isn't even trying to kill his opponent being a good enough feaf to put Luke on par with Malgus is laughable. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be a good fight, and Luke might actually push Malgus really hard, probably even win him a sabers only fight, if Luke goes dark side rage mode like he did to beat Vader. Other than that he just doesn't have the showings to pull off a Force or all out win IMO. He's never faced FL in a combat situation before, only stood in place and let Sheev torture him, so I doubt he'll really have much of a defense against that, let alone an opponent on par with the Vader that he fought except with every intention to kill him.

Lel.

Malgus in a good fight.

Where is the evidence that Vader was "hindered" in any capacity against Luke? It's stated in multiple sources that they were equals, Vader thought Luke was his match, etc. If anything, Luke was the one more blatantly holding back.

Sorry not sorry, Luke with a few years of sporadic training crushes Malgus.

Vader was directly saying he wanted to kill his son if need be, though. And Luke was also not going all-out, so I doubt Luke is somehow massively below Vader.
He's at least comparable to him, and that alone marks him above Malgus.

Everybody saying that Vader was holding back doesn't account for the fact that all of their arguments are equally valid on Luke, who didn't even attack Vader once he got the advantage but instead deactivated his blade. He clearly wasn't going all-out either until the end.

And prior to the rage amp, Luke was still defeating him while holding back...

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@TheNuisanceBird - I mentioned that in my post. I'm saying that prior to the Rage amp, Luke was matching and at points even beating Vader without going all-out.