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1. Fight takes place inside the Corsair. Morals on.

2. Fight takes place in the heart of Malachor V. Morals off.

Sadow pretty solidly.

Naga.

Naga Sadow absolutely freaking god stomps.

Yeah, I'm not following this thread's thought process. Sadow makes Traya look like a child with a toy.

Interesting responses....

Darth Revan would wreck Traya and the Exile at the same time. And overpower Sever Force. Accept it.

AvelloneGodTier!Revan you mean.

No idea

Where do you guys have Sadow, then? Vader tier?

Lol

Originally posted by SunRazer
Where do you guys have Sadow, then? Vader tier?

Holistically he's probably not that far below Vader, especially considering how much better than Traya he's supposed to be, but again he's basically featless.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Holistically he's probably not that far below Vader, especially considering how much better than Traya he's supposed to be, but again he's basically featless.

But you do take a more holistic approach to examining these characters than a "feats-on" approach, correct?

I suppose you rank Ragnos and so on around Vader's level, then?

Originally posted by SunRazer
But you do take a more holistic approach to examining these characters than a "feats-on" approach, correct?

I try to be as reasonable as possible on all fronts with the information at my disposal, but I generally don't tend to take hard stances on characters who don't have hard feats.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I try to be as reasonable as possible on all fronts with the information at my disposal, but I generally don't tend to take hard stances on characters who don't have hard feats.

Fair enough. You do seem to think it's concrete that Sadow slaughters Traya, though.

Well, there was some degree of jest involved in my post, but considering that there was a direct comparison made there I think it's very likely. Especially after what happened in the Revan novel.

Given Vader's esteem of Muur, it really shouldn't be too outlandish to believe that paragons like Sadow and Ragnos are at/around Vader's level, or maybe even above.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Given Vader's esteem of Muur, it really shouldn't be too outlandish to believe that paragons like Sadow and Ragnos are at/around Vader's level, or maybe even above.

But that depends on where Sadow/Ragnos are in relation to Muur, and how much substance do you really believe a comparison like this has?

While obviously this is no concrete indicator, I'd argue that the likes of Ragnos are implied to be above all the other ancient sith sans Kun. Besides, could Vader beat a Terentatek nightly with his bare hands?

If the Terentatek is like, a level 6 boss then yes. Vader, who's clearly level 60, could solo with no weapon easily.

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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
While obviously this is no concrete indicator, I'd argue that the likes of Ragnos are implied to be above all the other ancient sith sans Kun. Besides, could Vader beat a Terentatek nightly with his bare hands?

Maybe Ragnos might get away with it (since he has that accolade about being more powerful than any Sith up to and of his time), but Sadow doesn't benefit from that whatsoever.

As for the Terentatek thing, Sas has already schooled you on that one.

Sadow was the most powerful Sith in the galaxy after the ritual shizzle to make him Dark Lord, so there's something.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Sadow was the most powerful Sith in the galaxy after the ritual shizzle to make him Dark Lord, so there's something.

In the galaxy, which meant him, Ludo Kressh, the rest of the Sith Council, young Vitiate, etc.

And I believe that quote was from Galaxy Guide 14, which turned out to be a piece of fan-fiction.