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By 'B-list', I don't necessarily mean they are second stringers in power (although some here might be), but more so in importance. They either don't have too many appearances (relatively) and/or high level feats to their name, or they usually don't get top billing as 'The Guy', on the battlefield--though they might get some lip service here and there when being compared to the top heroes.

Anyway, fight includes the following:

Apollo
http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Apollo-Wildstorm-Comics-Authority-Stormwatch-d.jpg
Black Bolt
http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/8/b0/551af23e0e24c/standard_incredible.jpg
Blue Marvel
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142086/4242417-8583633860-34533.jpg
Captain Atom
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/images/CaptainAtom05.jpg
Captain Marvel (Billy)
http://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/37889/1386132-1.jpg
Captain Mar-Vell
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/96097/_1448388777.jpg
Ethan Edwards
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80168/3004334-ethan+edwards+-+4.jpg

And

Gladiator
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131960/3992013-5309524298-Gladi.jpg
Ikaris
http://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/0/77/80131-70629-ikaris.jpg
Martian Manhunter
http://media.ignimgs.com/media/ign/imgs/minisites/topN/comic-book-heroes/43_MartianManhunter.jpg
Mon-El
http://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/10/101435/1959301-kincart__10_.jpg
Namor
http://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/11/117763/3203379-atlas00606.jpg
Nova Prime
http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111170007/4502771-novaart1.jpg
Vision
http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/d/de/Vision442.jpg
Wonder Man
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZMD1OLWYAEWOge.jpg


15 warriors in total.

Fight is on an indestructible planet. Going all out.

phuck yo internet

damn.... this is hard.... gladiator has a speed advantage or everyone , while mmh has the versatility but hes kind of a glass canon , while atom is like silver surfer lite i dont think he can hang physically with some of these dudes, i say it comes down to mon, billy, glads, mar vell and bolt when its all said and done. i really cant decide a winner so im just gonna go with glads.

Too big a fight for a definitive answer. Any opinion is working with probabilities, not certainties. There are a handful that could win. I don't know much about Edwards or Ikaris. Among the rest, gun to my head, I'd take Billy (Cpt. Marvel). Ghostman caught most of the rest, though.

Namor, Wonder Man, Vision, and (to a lesser extent, imo) Apollo are a bit outclassed. I actually think they could do some damage in this fight and take others out. Apollo's showing vs. Cpt. Atom is a good example of this, and Namor has jumped weight class a handful of times as well. But none would survive the melee long enough to win.

Mon-El wins.

Blue Marvel

Their are seriously way too many characters in this fight for a definitive answer.

The only thing i can give you is the top three that will most likely end up victorious.

In no particular order

Blue Marvel
Captain Marvel(i shall never use the name Shazam)
Gladiator

I'll give this to black bolt. He can hang with many of these characters in h2h, thinks tactically, and his attacks (whispering, talking, or screaming) can literally hit everyone in this fight.

J'onn takes this.

Good mix of characters though.

Originally posted by deathslash
I'll give this to black bolt. He can hang with many of these characters in h2h, thinks tactically, and his attacks (whispering, talking, or screaming) can literally hit everyone in this fight. I can agree that due to BBs abilities, he also can come up victorious. The only problem is that their are just too many powerful characters here that he would eventually get tagged and would have quite the time to deal with or worse, noticing the mass destruction his causing and they all start to gang on him

I find the latter actually more probable...

Just to point something, CM is not "B-list", nor is he a flying brick, he has shown feats that make him one of the most versalite characters.
I'll post some of his feats. So let's start, shall we?

By using the Power of Zeus has amped his strength to such degree that he layed a rough smackdown on a being who had Superman's, Maritan Manhunter's and Aquaman's strength and durability combined.
http://imgur.com/a/fodJG

Uses the Power of Zeus to amp his already incredible durability.
http://imgur.com/mpNaezB

Generates and throws magical electricity on Black Adam.
http://imgur.com/9rp2JlL

Calls down lightning from sky, without saying the magic word(the same lightning heals CM).
http://imgur.com/a/xVcle

Has a tough fight againt Black Adam, when both of them call down lightnings from the sky and frow electricity at each other.
http://imgur.com/a/baI4C

Calls down a lightning and knocks down WW, Hawkgirl and Stargirl.
http://imgur.com/fIgR80s

He also has shown insane regenerative capabilities.
http://imgur.com/PRpl1vz

Even in his human form he has shown that he can manipulate magic for various effects, like Matter/Molecule Manipulation(in the scan he creates armchair and TV, neat trick).
http://imgur.com/a/zRqWo

I think those feats are enough, for now, i will add more if needed.

CM is a flying brick.

It has nothing to do with versatility.

It's literally just a trope name to signify that a character can fly and is super strong and durable as well.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FlyingBrick
As you can see, even Captain Atom and Silver Surfer, both far more versatile than CM, are considered flying bricks too.

And yes, CM is a B-lister. As I mentioned though, it does not necessarily mean because of power. In CM's case I would say its moreso because of importance and billing.


Now, as for the the thread itself, I would probably give it to Billy eventually. I don't think anyone else here is quite tanky as CM has shown to be. And the dude's healing factor is legit. He got turned inside out once and in a single panel reformed back to normal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mon-El wins.
Yup.

Originally posted by Digi
Too big a fight for a definitive answer. Any opinion is working with probabilities, not certainties. There are a handful that could win. I don't know much about Edwards or Ikaris. Among the rest, gun to my head, I'd take Billy (Cpt. Marvel). Ghostman caught most of the rest, though.

Namor, Wonder Man, Vision, and (to a lesser extent, imo) Apollo are a bit outclassed. I actually think they could do some damage in this fight and take others out. Apollo's showing vs. Cpt. Atom is a good example of this, and Namor has jumped weight class a handful of times as well. But none would survive the melee long enough to win.

In my mind, even though everyone is out for the kill, I could see impromptu temporary alliances happening, with people ganging up on others they perceive to be bigger threats.

Who the F is Ethan Edwards?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Who the F is Ethan Edwards?
My favorite F lister

He's a Superman clone (literally) from Marvel. Nowhere near Superman's power level though. He's around high meta to low herald.

What are Mon-El's best feats?

Not too familiar with Daxamites.

Originally posted by zopzop
My favorite F lister

He's a Superman clone (literally) from Marvel. Nowhere near Superman's power level though. He's around high meta to low herald. He is definitely herald level.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
CM is a flying brick.

It has nothing to do with versatility.

It's literally just a trope name to signify that a character can fly and is super strong and durable as well.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FlyingBrick
As you can see, even Captain Atom and Silver Surfer, both far more versatile
than CM, are considered flying bricks too.

Pre-Flashpoint CA hasn't shown more versality than Marvel, difference is one manipulates magic, the other manipulates quantum energy, i have also seen Marvel do things, which CA cannot, also actually bricks are characters who have regular super-strength/durability/speed, those are bricks, flying bricks are simply all that + flight. That's what is flying brick, also tvtropes is not "official" or anything, so we can't rely on it that much, and obviously it has its own mistakes in it. And as i said already Marvel is not a flying brick, aside from regular flying brick powers, he has shown much more like Matter Manipulation/Magic Lightning Manipulation/Generation and calling it down from sky, using lightning from sky to recharge and heal himself, and bunch of other abilities.


And yes, CM is a B-lister. As I mentioned though, it does not necessarily mean because of power. In CM's case I would say its moreso because of importance and billing.

B-listers don't get their own movies, and soon maybe in September or later(after Rebirth), he gets his own comic series. That's not B-lister stuff, and popularity wise he is more popular than any character in this battle.


Now, as for the the thread itself, I would probably give it to Billy eventually. I don't think anyone else here is quite tanky as CM has shown to be. And the dude's healing factor is legit. He got turned inside out once and in a single panel reformed back to normal.


Well, aside from durability and healing, he has much more advantages against his opponents, like his insane speed which, according Jerry Ordway and Mark Waid, is around Flash's speed(i can also posts feats of Marvel traveling through 4th Dimension a.k.a TIME, and 5th Dimension a.k.a the home of Mxy). Also, according DC Editor Charles Kochman Captain Marvel is DC's strongest supehero.
http://imgur.com/3ec2lFV
"If one were to indulge in that favorite childhood pastime of 'Who is stronger than whom?', for my money, Captain Marvel was the strongest of them all.' - Charles Kochman.

Between Capt. Atom and MM for me.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Pre-Flashpoint CA hasn't shown more versality than Marvel, difference is one manipulates magic, the other manipulates quantum energy, i have also seen Marvel do things, which CA cannot, also actually bricks are characters who have regular super-strength/durability/speed, those are bricks, flying bricks are simply all that + flight. That's what is flying brick, also tvtropes is not "official" or anything, so we can't rely on it that much, and obviously it has its own mistakes in it. And as i said already Marvel is not a flying brick, aside from regular flying brick powers, he has shown much more like Matter Manipulation/Magic Lightning Manipulation/Generation and calling it down from sky, using lightning from sky to recharge and heal himself, and bunch of other abilities.

I've not seen CM really do anything versatile, especially in regards to combat. He is strong, fast, tough, and charges his fists up with magic lightning. That's him in a nutshell. He's done things like herd weather patterns, but that's relatively low level.

I have no idea what you are trying to get at with this attempt to get CM some kind of special billing, especially in this thread when there are people with far more abilities than him, J'onn for instance. You seem to be the only person who is taking an issue with a single character's billing in this thread. It's not an insult.

Everyone understands what flying brick means. You fly, you are strong, and you are tough. That's the base requirements as it is generally used. That was the point of showing you the TVtropes link, as that is how the term is used by a general crowd. Your singular opinion is certainly of less value than a TVtropes listing also, so its pointless whether its 'official' or not. Obviously its a fan-made term to describe a fictional trope in the first place, nothing could be official about it. So its redundant to say that. It's a matter of general understand.

You can do all the neat stuff you can on top of the base requirements, but you are still understood to be a flying brick.

Sentry is a flying brick too. Also far more versatile than CM. Again, its not an insult, just a general usage.

Regardless, your tangent on this is absolutely pointless in regards to this thread. So drop it.




He is not the only character in this thread to get his own books.

And no, B-Listers do get their own movies. Blade. Daredevil. Ghost Rider. Let's talk C-Listers too: Ant Man.

And he is not the most popular character here. J'onn is.

He was a main character in the Justice League series on Cartoon Network and was in pretty much every episode.

CM by comparison, only got a single episode in that show.

That cartoon is what got most of the general populace their exposure to the JL, and J'onn was a regular the whole time, and billed as one of the main founders/leaders.

Also, its arguable that Vision is more popular than CM as well, seeing as he got exposure from Age of Ultron, a movie that pulled in 1.4 billion.

This is besides the point. I don't mean B-lister overall. I mean B-Lister as a *brick*.

J'onn is more well known than CM by quite a bit, and he would still be a B-Lister as a brick.

There is Superman and WW as the top two, as they are the two most iconic.




Now this is more relevant to the thread. Carry on with this kinda thing.

Either Black Bolt or Blue Marvel


Sorry but Manhunter is a puss.. 2 bad cus i like him but Dc f:;ked him up.

Are these current versions or pictured versions

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Are these current versions or pictured versions

Pre-Flashpoint for the DC guys.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
B-listers don't get their own movies

Lol.

Right? lol

That's a big list CC. it's like nigh-impossible to say who'd come out on top. Best best would be to pick the brick with the highest showings

Why its fun to think about.

Glads or BM win this imo

BM?

I don't see it.

Originally posted by Genii96
Glads or BM win this imo

Lol at Blue Marvel. He's all hype.

Seriously though Id love to see Black Bolt let out a scream at the beginning

Black Bolt scream aint worth much these days. Everyone here withstands it, including Namor who has recently withstood it without a scratch.

Uh no? Namor was KTFO.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh no? Namor was KTFO.

Namor got stabbed before that and was still conscious after falling, just incapable of getting his hurt ass up.

So, depends on your definition of a KO.

How did he get saved from that big ass explosion at the end, btw? Thanos teleported him?

No, he was definitely koed.

Black Swan teleported him to ultimate universe.

Originally posted by carver9
Black Bolt scream aint worth much these days. Everyone here withstands it, including Namor who has recently withstood it without a scratch.

Your Lowballing aside on average black bolts scream is pretty potent

Black bolt is impotent though.

Even Johnny stole his wife from him.

shocklaugh

Marvel's go to gimmick is having characters have marital/significant other trouble.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Black bolt is impotent though.

Even Johnny stole his wife from him.

shocklaugh

I forgot about that. Johnny is such a background character/love interest type anyway. He's defined by the relationships he's in. Meh the only time anyone paid attention to him was when he died



Originally posted by CosmicComet
Marvel's go to gimmick is having characters have marital/significant other trouble.

This

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, he was definitely koed.

Black Swan teleported him to ultimate universe.

I recall him screaming from pain and in anger while on the ground... maybe he lost consciousness afterwards... but not immediately after hitting the ground, iirc.

Ah.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Your Lowballing aside on average black bolts scream is pretty potent

Who has he dropped with his scream? Not whispering in their ear (which will not happen here) but screaming at them.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I recall him screaming from pain and in anger while on the ground... maybe he lost consciousness afterwards... but not immediately after hitting the ground, iirc.

Ah.

True, the version against Hulk was a Skrull.

http://i62.tinypic.com/4ubac1.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/2zs5frt.jpg

Here's the scene.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, the version against Hulk was a Skrull.

Is Hulk in this thread?

Oooh fancy a BZ, carver?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oooh fancy a BZ, carver?

You turned down my offer.

Originally posted by carver9
You turned down my offer.

Where?????

Originally posted by carver9
Who has he dropped with his scream? Not whispering in their ear (which will not happen here) but screaming at them.

Hmmm off the top he dropped norrin. But he didn't scream. He just spoke iirc. I don't think he has ever full on screamed except to declare war that time oh and the Thanos fight. He regulares his power too much for him to go all out. He dropped that octo monster from the cancerverse...

Lol at the ear whisper comment. Which would totally happen in a fight btw

Damn, poor Blackbolt getting shafted like that. Where's Smurph when you need him.

Panthers' words in those scan are telling.

Not only would it take a full second for him to regain his wits.....he was also completely paralysed. So that even as the minutes passed, he was unable to do anything about it.

But am sure Carver has gone now.

Incapacitated, yes. But only flash-ko'd.

After that, Panther said thst he would spare him a few minutes.

Minutes in which Namor couldn't do anything.

Originally posted by carver9
Who has he dropped with his scream? Not whispering in their ear (which will not happen here) but screaming at them. making thanos bleed with a weakened scream>>>>>> hulk getting consistently knocked on his ass by thanos.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, the version against Hulk was a Skrull.

How did he beat hulk I can't remember I haven't looked at that comic in forever

Originally posted by Sin I AM
How did he beat hulk I can't remember I haven't looked at that comic in forever

Skrullbolt hasn't. WWH raped him.

Real Bolt has, back in the "classic" days, I think.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
How did he beat hulk I can't remember I haven't looked at that comic in forever

He didn't - Hulk stomped SkrullBolt into paste.

"I didn't come here for a whisper. I came to hear you scream."

Such a perv.

I meant real bolt. I wonder why hulk hasn't faced any high heralds as much lately

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Skrullbolt hasn't. WWH raped him.

Real Bolt has, back in the "classic" days, I think.

Skrull Bolt screaming fts are better than the real deal.

Originally posted by carver9
Skrull Bolt screaming fts are better than the real deal.

http://static.tumblr.com/105aa547b77314f599a9ab8e30b0d412/acjfh4w/MOqo58es0/tumblr_static_219n1dcj1uzo0ckk0skwwcko8.gif

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hmmm off the top he dropped norrin. But he didn't scream. He just spoke iirc. I don't think he has ever full on screamed except to declare war that time oh and the Thanos fight. He regulares his power too much for him to go all out. He dropped that octo monster from the cancerverse...

Lol at the ear whisper comment. Which would totally happen in a fight btw

He did a full scream at Vulcan and it messed him up but he lived and was still fighting. The guys in this thread is magnitudes more durable than Vulcan.

He doesn't have many fts of outright dropping high end characters with his scream. He did use it against Classic Hulk in the past and it temporarily dropped him but that is about the highest I can think of when it came to his voice. Hell, the Fantastic Four even tanked it...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2177812-5.png

Black Bolt is a powerful character but his yell isn't what it's hyped up to be.

Black Bolt aint bout that life

Originally posted by carver9
He did a full scream at Vulcan and it messed him up but he lived and was still fighting. The guys in this thread is magnitudes more durable than Vulcan.

He doesn't have many fts of outright dropping high end characters with his scream. He did use it against Classic Hulk in the past and it temporarily dropped him but that is about the highest I can think of when it came to his voice. Hell, the Fantastic Four even tanked it...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2177812-5.png

Black Bolt is a powerful character but his yell isn't what it's hyped up to be. again. He made thanos bleed with his voice while he was weakened.

Originally posted by deathslash
again. He made thanos bleed with his voice while he was weakened.

First scream was at full power.

Originally posted by carver9
He doesn't have many fts of outright dropping high end characters with his scream.

Glads?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Glads?

Ear whisper.

Originally posted by deathslash
again. He made thanos bleed with his voice while he was weakened.

Ok. That still doesn't go against what I said.

Black Bolt is fine and his showing against Thanos is justification enough.


Anyways i think the best way to judge is by a process of eliminating the ones who will drol first

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Black Bolt is fine and his showing against Thanos is justification enough.


Anyways i think the best way to judge is by a process of eliminating the ones who will drol first well we don't have to guess on that. Manhunter is gonna die inside of the first few seconds.

Originally posted by carver9
Black Bolt scream aint worth much these days. Everyone here withstands it, including Namor who has recently withstood it without a scratch.

That's a goddamn lie

Originally posted by abhilegend
Black bolt is impotent though.

Even Johnny stole his wife from him.

shocklaugh


No he didn't you dumb **** they were separated long before Johnny came around. Try reading good comics.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Damn, poor Blackbolt getting shafted like that. Where's Smurph when you need him.



Where the hell is BB getting shafted at? Are you all having a mass delusion?

Originally posted by carver9
He did a full scream at Vulcan and it messed him up but he lived and was still fighting. The guys in this thread is magnitudes more durable than Vulcan.

He doesn't have many fts of outright dropping high end characters with his scream. He did use it against Classic Hulk in the past and it temporarily dropped him but that is about the highest I can think of when it came to his voice. Hell, the Fantastic Four even tanked it...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2177812-5.png

Black Bolt is a powerful character but his yell isn't what it's hyped up to be.


Vulcan absorbed some of the energy of the scream, it wasn't a durability feat. Your obviously gassy since no Hulk figure was worthy of being included.

Originally posted by deathslash
well we don't have to guess on that. Manhunter is gonna die inside of the first few seconds.

Facts^

Originally posted by carver9
Ear whisper.



Which is magnitudes weaker than a scream, great point. Is that why you abandoned Gladiator naked in the woods?

Blue Marvel is easily the most powerful character on the board, but Black Bolt is the best tactician. He finds a way to take it.

Between

Captain Atom
Mon-El
Wonder Man