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Quicksilver from the X Men universe.

Strength or speed, who wins?

QS knocks himself out hitting Hulk.

Originally posted by golem370
QS knocks himself out hitting Hulk.

Not a chance, he would go grab a nuke and shove it down hulks throat, then take him into the desert and leave him there.

Can he lift hulk?

In superspeed, easily, he was carrying and tossing people hundreds of feet without even trying.

He's like a twenty eight year old tossing preteens. Hulk is huge.

Doesn't matter

Too bad we never saw MCU Quicksilver go up against Hulk. Because even though he's no where near as fast as Fox Quicksilver, it would have given us an idea of how Hulk does in this kind of battle.

MCU QS stomped Cap though.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Not a chance, he would go grab a nuke and shove it down hulks throat, then take him into the desert and leave him there.

Wow you're silly.

Originally posted by golem370
Wow you're silly.

Why? I mean, that would be ooc for QS to do that but he's shown the speed to be capable of doing so.

I seriously doubt he could lift someone that weights what 500-1000lbs no would Hulk let him try. Hulk was shown able to catch a rejected jet seat which is pretty fast hand and reaction speed.

An enjected jet seat is nothing compared to Quicksilver, that would be like comparing a slug to a cruise missle.

QS evacuated an entire house in the middle of an explosion, that's so far beyond lightspeed it's not even funny. At the speeds QS can move, Hulk would be easy to move.

^ Yeah especially if he pushes Hulk in the direction he was already moving.

I remember in the classic comics Quicksilver could redirect the Things punches back towards Thing himself

One can just imagine how fast QS was going that time. Zipping around at superspeed too fast for us to follow at times even when the explosion (w/c goes like What 1,800-3,000 m/s?) was moving at a crawl.

Crazy fast.

Hulk loses

Quicksilver could literally pull out the hulks eyes and feed it to him without ever being in danger. Peter picks him up and drops him in a volcano. Goes about his day till the hulk finds him again and he does the same thing all over.

And for those who think he couldn't move the hulk, he was tossing everyone in the school hundreds of feet in the air with no effort. With some exertion he could definitely move banner.

He cant pick up 150plbs? BS, at those speeds, just him moving past the hulk would move him. I dont know if he can put Hulk down but hes gonna damn sure beat the shit outta him the entire fight. Like, the same as he did to Apoc, cept he just keeps going.

QS could run his finger through hulks eye for the ko

QS speed seems to mean at those insane velocities, physics as we know it don't apply, so he's "strong" because he's moving so fast gravity and time haven't affected them yet. Either that or he's just stupidly strong due to him moving/hitting things at such high speeds. But either way, or whatever way, he's strong enough to move him with effort, and more than strong enough to hurt him creatively. Like skewer Hulk's balls with swords at a gajillion miles an hour.

We know that force of an object depends on it's acceleration and the acceleration of Quicksilver punches is really high ! so they should have tremendous amount of force !

With the showing against Apoc, it's gonna take a looooooong time for QS to punch out Hulk if it is even possible and i do not believe he can lift Hulk. Sure he can push 150-200lbs people up the air, but Hulk probably weighs 1000+lbs that is a lot different and either way he is probably gonna need some momentum.

He couldn't even hurt Apoc. QS would probably break his hand punching Hulk.

That's why Apoc was screaming in pain right?

Quicksilver makes hulk punch himself in the face until he KOs himself.

Originally posted by TheHulk
With the showing against Apoc, it's gonna take a looooooong time for QS to punch out Hulk if it is even possible and i do not believe he can lift Hulk. Sure he can push 150-200lbs people up the air, but Hulk probably weighs 1000+lbs that is a lot different and either way he is probably gonna need some momentum.

He was TOSSING 200lb ppl with ease, getting huge distance. Doing it like you tossing a football. So correction there. With effort or possible strain he could obviously move the hulk lol.

Then there is the matter of how durable he must be to even operate at that speed. In DoFP, he was denting the walls when causally running along them. I think his fists will be fine. Whether they damage the hulk is debatable.

Even if punching Hulk hurts his fists, he can always, you know, throw objects towards Hulk at super speed. Imagine QS throwing bullets at his speed..

Originally posted by golem370
I seriously doubt he could lift someone that weights what 500-1000lbs no would Hulk let him try. Hulk was shown able to catch a rejected jet seat which is pretty fast hand and reaction speed.
Slower than snail compared to Fox Quicksilver......

If Hulk wins this fight it will be due to his durability and strength not speed, he is not reacting to X-Men Quicksilver

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn

QS evacuated an entire house in the middle of an explosion, that's so far beyond lightspeed it's not even funny.

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^thats not a response, thats a troll response with zero substance, and what he described is actual feats from the movie. All QS has to do is make Hulk punch himself.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Slower than snail compared to Fox Quicksilver......

If Hulk wins this fight it will be due to his durability and strength not speed, he is not reacting to X-Men Quicksilver



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Lol, so I'm guessing you don't agree that Quicksilver's feat was light speed+.

Feel free to try and 'debunk it' or whatever the Hell it is you nerds do around here.

Well technically we still don't know if we have speeds beyond light speed or not and i don't think Quicksilver's speed was near light speed !

It wasn't lightspeed. But suffice to say it was basically the fastest on-screen portrayal of a person in live action movie. And it's multiple mach speeds easily.

Mach speeds would barely be able to get from the street where Pietro started, to the house before the explosion finished, never mind evacuate at least 30 people, in the middle of it.

I don't mean like Mach 2 or Mach 3. I'm thinking he's easily Mach 20+

It's certainly not lightspeed though. The closest we have to that is Metro Man, who is vastly faster. Before a space laser moved a few inches(light itself slowly streamed in), he left the observatory he was in and f*cked around in the city for a few hours. Literally the entire city was frozen, and he read books, watched the clouds, etc... Nothing moved for hours.

I don't even Mach 20 is fast enough to do what he did (move everyone before an explosion destroys the house). Especially since explosions expand at what Mach 2-5? And he was zipping around while it was moving at slow motion.

Mach hundreds maybe.

I dunno.

Could be. All I know is it's not lightspeed. But it's toony level fast.

He was clocked at Mach 20 in his first showing. This is at least 20-30 times faster for this massive feat.

I'm going to back off this one, the only way to prove this shit is to crunch the numbers, and I am most certainly not doing that.

This is a job for... h1a8 haermm

Please no...

Relax. I don't think he has explored forum this much; we should be quite safe here, in the Movie section.

You dont even need to do the math to reason (beyond a shadow of a doubt) that Quicksilver was NOT moving at c...basic physics tells us this.

At the speed of light, time ceases to flow in your frame of reference as time stops completely; in Quicksilvers frame of reference, objects still moved...albeit very slowly (thus time flowed in Quicksilvers frame of reference).

This is proof enough itself that Quickilver was moving slower than c...

In short, if Quicksilver was moving at the speed of light, he would be the only thing moving from his point of view (well himself as well as any electromagnetic radiation in his vicinity)...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Relax. I don't think he has explored forum this much; we should be quite safe here, in the Movie section.


I'll PM him for his input.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'll PM him for his input.

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Originally posted by wallman77
He was TOSSING 200lb ppl with ease, getting huge distance. Doing it like you tossing a football. So correction there. With effort or possible strain he could obviously move the hulk lol.

Then there is the matter of how durable he must be to even operate at that speed. In DoFP, he was denting the walls when causally running along them. I think his fists will be fine. Whether they damage the hulk is debatable. Okay, i admit i watched the movie only once. But i am pretty sure he did not toss people that far.

I don't think in DoFP he was denting any walls.

Screw it, i'll watch clips for both movies and see for myself



Edit:Okay at the very least he was slightly denting the walls on DoFP




Second edit: Just rewatched the X mansion scene and i was right. QS didn't toss anyone that far. The only thing that comes close is those 2 people kissing and when he toss people to the balcony, but even still there is a possiblity that the explosion helped.

This is why i don't trust peoples words on movie scenes

Originally posted by TheHulk
Okay, i admit i watched the movie only once. But i am pretty sure he did not toss people that far.

I don't think in DoFP he was denting any walls.

Screw it, i'll watch clips for both movies and see for myself



Edit:Okay at the very least he was slightly denting the walls on DoFP




Second edit: Just rewatched the X mansion scene and i was right. QS didn't toss anyone that far. The only thing that comes close is those 2 people kissing and when he toss people to the balcony, but even still there is a possiblity that the explosion helped.

This is why i don't trust peoples words on movie scenes

Lol, trust peoples words? You mental? I wasn't wrong about anything stated. They obviously flew huge distances with a light toss. From the ppl he threw out the window to the ppl on the roof. Especially the ones that ended up in the lake traveled what looks like almost a football field.. Prove that the explosion helped. You cant.

Hulk people are really mad.

Carver is having a complete meltdown in the Superman vs Hulks thread

Originally posted by wallman77
Lol, trust peoples words? You mental? I wasn't wrong about anything stated. They obviously flew huge distances with a light toss. From the ppl he threw out the window to the ppl on the roof. Especially the ones that ended up in the lake traveled what looks like almost a football field.. Prove that the explosion helped. You cant. That's because some people can't remember scenes as well as they think moron

I'm pretty sure Quicksilver used his speed as momentum, hell when he spin his body around to toss the people up in the air we don't even know how many times he does it to generate force. One way or another it definitely wasn't a light toss, even though it looks like it.

You are honestly telling me right now, that an explosion like that could not have produced enough force to blow people away? I mean seriously i just said it was a possibility not a fact. But you are seriously telling me that type of huge explosion could not blow people back? But hey again..i just said it was possibility.

Originally posted by TH3_V01D
Hulk people are really mad.

Carver is having a complete meltdown in the Superman vs Hulks thread Don't let Carver define an entire fanbase. Not everyone is like Abhi for Superman or Quan for Thanos.

Explosions don't work like that. The shockwave from the explosion doesn't magically send you flying. At most it blasts people backwards. They don't go soaring dozens of feet and land perfectly in tree branches and lakes and cushions made of drapes.

Another thing, if the explosion did anything, it would have effected QS' aim. And he spun around as many times as we saw him spin. Once.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You dont even need to do the math to reason (beyond a shadow of a doubt) that Quicksilver was NOT moving at c...basic physics tells us this.

At the speed of light, time ceases to flow in your frame of reference as time stops completely; in Quicksilvers frame of reference, objects still moved...albeit very slowly (thus time flowed in Quicksilvers frame of reference).

This is proof enough itself that Quickilver was moving slower than c...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
In short, if Quicksilver was moving at the speed of light, he would be the only thing moving from his point of view (well himself as well as any electromagnetic radiation in his vicinity)...

Not to mention, he saw the explosion from outside and rushed inside, but by the time he got there Havok had already been turned to ash. A guy at lightspeed would never have that problem

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Not to mention, he saw the explosion from outside and rushed inside, but by the time he got there Havok had already been turned to ash. A guy at lightspeed would never have that problem


Unless Havoc was already Ash by the time QS saw the explosion.

THe explosion had already started by the time he reached the mansion, in fact I'm still not sure how he knew anything was wrong tbh, but he reached the mansion, went down and rescued the people downstairs, whilst he was saving everyone he still had time to plan on how to get everyone out in time and safe, which included hanging up curtains and wrapping that guy in the mattress

Because on the left side of the shot of the mansion, you could see the explosion slowly blasting through the earth/ground (presumably above where the x-jet is held). Peter noticed that, noticed the kids in the car (one of whom who was blue and had a tail), checked the card in his hand again, and more than likely figured he was in the right place, and that they probably needed his help.

And on a somewhat related note: Havok... what an idiot.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller

And on a somewhat related note: Havok... what an idiot.



Yeah what a way to have him go out. Taking the whole X-Mansion.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah what a way to have him go out. Taking the whole X-Mansion.

Taking that potshot was beyond stupid IMO. Best case scenario is that they didn't teleport out, or no one raised a shield, before that blast hit. And beyond the shields and Apoc's healing factor, everyone there is still normal flesh and blood. And he put so much power into that shot that when it hit the one Cerebro blast door behind them, it basically instantly incinerated/vaporised virtually the entire thing. So best outcome, that blast would likely have fried the entire group, Xavier included. And Alex should know better than anyone how dangerous his powers are, and what could happen if he misses.

^ I hope they told Scott later that his brother was a reckless s*** who could have gotten all the X-Men and mutants at the mansion killed.

And if Havoc ends up still being alive they better bring that up in his face.

They don't call him Havok because he likes to do all things well planned and organized, y'know.

Originally posted by KingD19
Explosions don't work like that. The shockwave from the explosion doesn't magically send you flying. At most it blasts people backwards. They don't go soaring dozens of feet and land perfectly in tree branches and lakes and cushions made of drapes.

Another thing, if the explosion did anything, it would have effected QS' aim. And he spun around as many times as we saw him spin. Once. Why do people put words in another peoples mouth even when unintentional. I keep saying the force of the explosion might have helped. If it did not fine. But seriously people should stop making it sound like like said the explosion was the main factor of the kids flying into the air

Oh and to be fair to Havok, it's not like he was completely aware of the X-Jet. Hell even if he was...he was trying to save the professor. C'mon, i'm pissed that he died like that but still...it was not entirely stupid of him

Originally posted by TheHulk
Oh and to be fair to Havok, it's not like he was completely aware of the X-Jet. Hell even if he was...he was trying to save the professor. C'mon, i'm pissed that he died like that but still...it was not entirely stupid of him


Hank tried to warn him but he just ignored him. It was insanely reckless, just shouting and firing full power in an indoor environment like that.

If people died that would have been blatant reckless manslaughter.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
They don't call him Havok because he likes to do all things well planned and organized, y'know.

The problem is that the character has shown restraint and control in the past. Hell, a big part of the character in First Class is how he is basically afraid to use his powers, because he knows they are erratic and dangerous, and people could get killed if he isn't careful.

And then in DoFP, not only did he have the restraint to stop Mystique killing Stryker, but displayed enough fine control to fire off a blast that totally missed Raven, but hit Stryker just hard enough to KO him.

Yet here he just rushes Apocalypse and goes HAM.

Clearly the 10 years maturity since DOFP have done him no good whatsoever.

Also nice attempt at aging him by just growing his hair. He was supposed to be 16/17 in FC, and now he would be 36/37. At least get him to put on loads of weight or something. Otherwise just recast. Looks can change in those years.

Actually the laziness in aging the whole cast has been pretty poor.


Stop skipping 10 years every movie if you're going to make no attempt to make your cast look older.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The problem is that the character has shown restraint and control in the past. Hell, a big part of the character in First Class is how he is basically afraid to use his powers, because he knows they are erratic and dangerous, and people could get killed if he isn't careful.

And then in DoFP, not only did he have the restraint to stop Mystique killing Stryker, but displayed enough fine control to fire off a blast that totally missed Raven, but hit Stryker just hard enough to KO him.

Yet here he just rushes Apocalypse and goes HAM.

The problem is that you can't take a joke.

uhuh

So I heard something crazy in this thread. So let's drop this QS does not have lightspeed power. In the house we clearly see that the explosion is still moving even in QS slow motion. An explosion does not move at the speed of light.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Actually the laziness in aging the whole cast has been pretty poor.

I have given up expecting them to do a good job on this. Ignoring Havok, Jean and Scott (and presumably Storm) are in their late teens (Scott is old enough to drive), and it is 1983. Yet the future parts of DoFP is like 2022 or 2023 IIRC. So the ones we see at the end of that film are probably pushing 60, yet have the appearance of people in their mid to late 30s.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
The problem is that you can't take a joke.

uhuh

Hey, discussing fictional movie characters is serious business here.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I have given up expecting them to do a good job on this. Ignoring Havok, Jean and Scott (and presumably Storm) are in their late teens (Scott is old enough to drive), and it is 1983. Yet the future parts of DoFP is like 2022 or 2023 IIRC. So the ones we see at the end of that film are probably pushing 60, yet have the appearance of people in their mid to late 30s.


Yeah I worked that out at the time of DOFP. Pis poor. At least give 60 year old Cylcops and Jean some grey hair and wrinkles. I mean what's so hard doing that for a small cameo!

Piss poor laziness.


Originally posted by Newjak
So I heard something crazy in this thread. So let's drop this QS does not have lightspeed power. In the house we clearly see that the explosion is still moving even in QS slow motion. An explosion does not move at the speed of light.


But QS was miles miles miles faster than the explosion, given he didn't just outrun the explosion, but evacuated the entire mansion in the time it was taking the explosion to expand.

Having said that though, it's unlikely he's Light Speed. Probably just like Mach 200 or something.

Mach hundreds is a fair assesment. Although that would be at minimum and could still pretty much go up due to the fact that in some moments (even within our perception bullet-time explosion slo-mo, he was still zipping around at super speed).

^ Yeah so looking at the slowed down time perception on it's own would be understating his speed.

My one defense for Alex is that Xavier himself had just three minutes ago told him to wreak Havok. And as we've seen, his beams, while powerful are very accurate. So if he'd hit anyone, it wouldn't have been Xavier, and he wouldn't have been hurt. Just the person hit.

Hulk wins.

Originally posted by KingD19
My one defense for Alex is that Xavier himself had just three minutes ago told him to wreak Havok. And as we've seen, his beams, while powerful are very accurate. So if he'd hit anyone, it wouldn't have been Xavier, and he wouldn't have been hurt. Just the person hit.

I am not so sure about that. Yes, he can be very accurate with his blasts. But the beam in question, while only about a foot wide in diameter, incinerated pretty much the entirety of the one set of Cerebro blast doors (which are big enough that 2 people can walk through them comfortably side by side), purely because of the heatwash it was giving off. Even if the beam itself hit the intended target, the heat would have flash fried the people surrounding the target as well.

I wasn't so sure it was the heat expansion as it was the doors were connected and made of metal. Like a lightsaber being jammed into a door will heat the entire thing up as the hot metal gets hotter and the heat travels through it into the rest of the metal. It's a much slower process, but the same concept imo.

Originally posted by KingD19
I wasn't so sure it was the heat expansion as it was the doors were connected and made of metal. Like a lightsaber being jammed into a door will heat the entire thing up as the hot metal gets hotter and the heat travels through it into the rest of the metal. It's a much slower process, but the same concept imo.

Well, somewhere on comicvine, someone must have gotten a leaked copy of the film, because there is a slowmo gif of the door being blasted somewhere in the one thread (I forget exactly which one). And you initially see the beam itself easily punch right through the door, but as the beam travels through it, the door around it burns up to nothing, in almost a perfect circle/radius around the beam. Because you see clear air between the beam and the doors, yet they still burn up to nothing. So to me it seemed more a case of the heat of the beam burning the door. It makes sense though, given how hot his blasts are (remember, even noob Alex set off the warning alarms in that fallout bunker when he cut loose with a single blast in First Class, and that chamber was built to withstand nuclear war), and that similar has happened in the comics IIRC. But movie Alex seems to be able to vary the intensity of his blasts from "send someone flying and KO them without burning them" to "easily punch through several inches of metal blast door".

Originally posted by Newjak
So I heard something crazy in this thread. So let's drop this QS does not have lightspeed power. In the house we clearly see that the explosion is still moving even in QS slow motion. An explosion does not move at the speed of light.

People don't have to drop anything because you say its crazy or do not agree with it.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
People don't have to drop anything because you say its crazy or do not agree with it. You are correct. They need to drop when very clearly what they say is wrong and there is evidence that easily dismisses it.

Which in this case there is. QS can not travel at or greater than lightspeed

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quicksilver wins.

Originally posted by Newjak
You are correct. They need to drop when very clearly what they say is wrong and there is evidence that easily dismisses it.

Which in this case there is. QS can not travel at or greater than lightspeed

Light speed was probably a bit excessive, but how casually QS completely out ran an explosion already in motion, his normal, in combat speeds have to be at least somewhere in the Mach 200-400 range. With his top speeds being who knows what.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Hulk wins.

To win you have to be able to move relative to your opponent. Hulk is a green statue.

Originally posted by KingD19
To win you have to be able to move relative to your opponent. Hulk is a green statue.

Exactly...

Hulk would be moving in very slow motion relative to Quicksilver...

Hulk would never hit him while Quicksilver could do whatever he wants to Hulk at will...


Quanchi's precious Avengers, who only have fought creampuffs thus far, lack feats against quality opponents...

Based on what we've seen at current, Hulk gets owned...

Besides dirty tactics and a possible BFR, what could QS do to The Hulk actually?

Originally posted by TheHulk
Besides dirty tactics and a possible BFR, what could QS do to The Hulk actually?

I agree that Quicksilver most likely wouldnt be able to kill Hulk, but BFR is a very viable tactic here...

After giving it more thought, whats to keep Quicksilver from winning this via KO?

Quicksilver could simply reposition every punch Hulk throws back at Hulk (like he did in the scene when he helped break Magneto out) until he KO's himself and Hulk is far, far, too slow to do a thing about it...

Hulk wins.

DCEU Superman wins.

Originally posted by playa1258
DCEU Superman wins. Hulk beats him faster than a tower.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
After giving it more thought, whats to keep Quicksilver from winning this via KO?

Quicksilver could simply reposition every punch Hulk throws back at Hulk (like he did in the scene when he helped break Magneto out) until he KO's himself and Hulk is far, far, too slow to do a thing about it...



Quicksilver wins...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder


Quicksilver wins... Fanboyism. He couldn't even ko that pansy Apoc.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
After giving it more thought, whats to keep Quicksilver from winning this via KO?

Quicksilver could simply reposition every punch Hulk throws back at Hulk (like he did in the scene when he helped break Magneto out) until he KO's himself and Hulk is far, far, too slow to do a thing about it...


Possibly. That's what Comic QS did to Thing in a classic comic. But as for the film versions he may not have the strength to redirect Hulk's arm.

On the other hand there's absolutely nothing Hulk can do to QS, wheras QS has all the time in the world to work out what he can do to Hulk.

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Stalemate

All that talk of QS hurting Hulk....probably not. He's more than a metric ton in weight and nothing QS has is enough to even breach his skin. Hulk can't touch QS. Period.

Nobody knows how long QS can do what he does as far as stamina is concerned since for him he's doing a whole lot of movement while his opponents aren't relatively, but it's unknown so stalemate

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Stalemate

All that talk of QS hurting Hulk....probably not. He's more than a metric ton in weight and nothing QS has is enough to even breach his skin. Hulk can't touch QS. Period.

Nobody knows how long QS can do what he does as far as stamina is concerned since for him he's doing a whole lot of movement while his opponents aren't relatively, but it's unknown so stalemate

He rips his eyes out then plays with his brain for a bit, then shoves a nuke down his mouth.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Fanboyism. He couldn't even ko that pansy Apoc.

Apoc would defeat Hulk and Winter Soldier without much effort...

Maybe that should be my next thread...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Apoc would defeat Hulk and Winter Soldier without much effort...

Maybe that should be my next thread...

Based on ?

Hulk would crush that pansy. WS just hangs back and throws his jizz in Apoc's eyes while Hulk beats him to a pulp.

LOL Apoc used his exotic powers to tag QS. Hulk has nothing to tag QS with. And he's not displayed Apoc level reactions either.

With the force QS was able to hit Apocalypse with, I would say he definitely could lift the Hulk. But Hulk has no way to ever land a single hit.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
LOL Apoc used his exotic powers to tag QS. Hulk has nothing to tag QS with. And he's not displayed Apoc level reactions either. All he has to do is hit him once.

Originally posted by quanchi112
All he has to do is hit him once.

Hulk is way too slow; it'll never happen...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Hulk is way too slow; it'll never happen... Humans ko'd QS.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Humans ko'd QS.



In non combat...

In combat, Hulk is a statue compared to QS...

Backsdown112 is butt hurt again

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
In non combat...

In combat, Hulk is a statue compared to QS... That was combat. Apoc also beat him in combat.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Backsdown112 is butt hurt again You backed down to me the day of. You had to have carver bail you out you coward.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He rips his eyes out then plays with his brain for a bit, then shoves a nuke down his mouth. 1. That's out of character 2. Healing factor. 3. What nuke? Nukes aren't grenades btw

CIS is off in forum fights.

Prove he can heal from nuke.

He's basically toonish, he can find a nuke.

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Nice one

Originally posted by psycho gundam
1. That's out of character 2. Healing factor. 3. What nuke? Nukes aren't grenades btw


That's all true. Except not seen any evidence for Hulks healing powers.

Redirecting Hulks own punches is the best argument for QS defeating Hulk methinks.

Plus just a barrage of super speed punches might hurt Hulk anyway, the way a barrage of Chitauri fire put him down.

Dunno if he has the strength to redirect Hulk's punches. Not even sure if strength is a factor for those and how the physics would deal with it. QS physics is retarded after all.

I mean after all, wouldn't redirecting bullets/explosive debris tear his finger(s) off due to the kinetic energy transfer? Wouldn't the sheer speed QS is moving at cause the very air molecules to ignite due to the friction? Wouldn't the ppl he's running with to rescue get liquified/ignited from the sheer G forces and air friction?

QS's speed is just toon-ish, he might as well be the Mask.

He does though, when the people are frozen he is not dealing with them resisting in any way. All he has to do is just make Hulk punch himself for the KO.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That's all true. Except not seen any evidence for Hulks healing powers.

Redirecting Hulks own punches is the best argument for QS defeating Hulk methinks.

Plus just a barrage of super speed punches might hurt Hulk anyway, the way a barrage of Chitauri fire put him down. Remember when you backed out of the challenge.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
After giving it more thought, whats to keep Quicksilver from winning this via KO?

Quicksilver could simply reposition every punch Hulk throws back at Hulk (like he did in the scene when he helped break Magneto out) until he KO's himself and Hulk is far, far, too slow to do a thing about it...



Quicksilver wins...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder


Quicksilver wins... Humans ko'd him. Apoc beat him too.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Dunno if he has the strength to redirect Hulk's punches. Not even sure if strength is a factor for those and how the physics would deal with it. QS physics is retarded after all.

I mean after all, wouldn't redirecting bullets/explosive debris tear his finger(s) off due to the kinetic energy transfer? Wouldn't the sheer speed QS is moving at cause the very air molecules to ignite due to the friction? Wouldn't the ppl he's running with to rescue get liquified/ignited from the sheer G forces and air friction?

QS's speed is just toon-ish, he might as well be the Mask.



Yeah He seems kind of a mix between freezing time Hiro and a Speedster on top.